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Anyways, while it is way too early to talk about the offseason there’s still concerns about this season to address…I’ll add my piece, if you ask me the Yankees’ priorities next season should be this in order:
Replacing the production that Damon and Matsui gave the team: Lets face it, Damon and Matsui have exceeded expectations and their production will be missed yet not duplicated by them wherever they land. That being said there’s ways to upgrade here. My plan would be to offer Damon Arbitration or try to get him back to DH and see where that goes, then sign Matt Holliday to play LF. He may not hit as well as Damon has this season, but his improved defense would make up the difference. Plus Posada, Jeter, Cano, Cabrera, and likely Rodriguez are all likely to regress
John Lackey: Joba Chamberlain proved this season that you can not rely on a young starter, so as much as I like Phil Hughes he can’t be relied on and neither can Chamberlain next season. Pettitte may not be back (addressed next time) and if so he’s still pretty old and may not duplicate his production next season, it sounds like Wang is finished and needs to rehab. AJ Burnett’s been bad, and the Yankees need another reliable starter (one isn’t enough), Lackey’s likely the best available…the only way they acquire someone better is by trading Jesus Montero.
If Pettitte retires finding another starter, self explanatory.
Finding a starter to pitch about 130 innings, my preference would be Rich Harden. Hughes is on innings limits, Chamberlain is a massive suck risk…and Harden still has filthy stuff. If everything works out well they can move him to the bullpen.
Bring back Hinske: he’s been a pretty good bench player…and I’d like to have him back.
The Chambliss image is fairly iconic, no?
Ben — I love how you responded to only the first two words of his looong post.
…then sign Matt Holliday to play LF. He may not hit as well as Damon has this season…
Holliday is going to cost like 15M AAV, bare minimum. Probably 18M.
For that kind of coin, he damn well better outhit 2009 Damon.
Holliday for 15-18 is something I’d be cool with, Damon is flat out mashing though…it’s gonna be hard to top that.
If it was 15-18 for 2-3 years, hell yeah. But, he’s gonna want a 5+ deal and I don’t want the Yankees–and I don’t think they want this–to be locked in at three of four corner spots for long term deals.
I say no to Lackey because he wants A.J. money and he shouldn’t get that. Joba’s thrown ~145 innings of league average ball. That’s actually pretty good coming from a 23 y.o. in his first full season of starting. He’s essentially the team’s 4th starter, too, and was the 5th starter coming into this season. If Hughes was going to be expected to be the number two or number three starter next year, then, yes, go get Lackey. However, since he’s currently slotted as the 5th starter (CC/AJ/Pettitte/Joba/Hughes), getting another arm in the rotation–especially one that requires a long term commitment with lots of money–is not something I think the Yankees will look into.
I mean…should AJ get AJ money? Lackey’s been better than Burnett over the past few seasons, so why shouldn’t he get AJ money? I’m awfully uncomfortable with Sabathia/Burnett/Pettitte/Chamberlain/Hughes going into next season. A vet in his late 30s (if he doesn’t retire), two starters with inning limits, and three starters with deep injury history.
Yikes.
Lackey’s been better than Burnett over the past few seasons, so why shouldn’t he get AJ money?
He probably should. But not from us, because we’re already giving our AJ money to AJ.
I’m awfully uncomfortable with Sabathia/Burnett/Pettitte/Chamberlain/Hughes going into next season.
You might be. But Lackey is a horrible overreaction to that uncomfortableness. I was awfully uncomfortable going into 2009 with Melky and Gardner in CF, and while I was ultimately proven wrong, I wanted to assuage my fears with a Mike Cameron stopgap, not with a panic trade for David DeJesus.
Yeah, the Yankees gave AJ a contract that he hasn’t lived up to…and they have the opportunity to give a contract to someone whose averaged a +4 WAR every year he’s been healthy, and only has one injury? I mean..it’s totally unfair to him to compare him to DeJesus.
Okay.
So, if you can go back in time and undo the AJ contract so he’s no longer on our books, I’m totally on board with giving 15M to Lackey.
Until that happens, no. AJ on AJ money is an okay solution. Lackey on AJ money is an okay solution.
Both together on AJ money is a bad idea. AJ’s presence on the Yankees precludes signing Lackey. I’d rather sit on the cash and pay Halladay, Lee, Webb, Vazquez, or Hudson the year after that if you absolutely must spend money on someone.
I see where you’re coming from and can respect that. I wouldn’t have a problem with bringing on John Lackey…that’s just me, but waiting for Halladay or Lee seems a bit more prudent. As to Webb, aren’t the Dbacks going to let him loose? I thought I remembered him being talked about as a “Jon Lieber” type of situation.
Joba Chamberlain proved this season that you can not rely on a young starter…
No, he didn’t.
His K/BB is atrocious, and his FIP is 4.69…he’s been getting lucky. He has a tRA+ of 95, which takes into account the park and difficulty of pitching in the AL East. He was as highly touted as they come and he’s been a massive disappointment performance wise. Though, at the end of the day it’s considered a successful season if he stays healthy for the whole season **knock on wood** it’s considered a success.
And yet, none of his struggles “proved” that you can’t rely on a young starter.
Moreso, even if you quibble with that, since it’s a semantic distinction, his struggles most freaking definitely did not prove that we should go pay 31 year old John Lackey any of our precious SteinbrennerBucks.
Gigantic hells to the no on signing Lackey.
Isn’t: “Gigantic hells to the no” the same position that we had on Burnett this time next season? Furthermore, what has Chamberlain done to instill confidence in his next season’s performance? Was it the decreased velocity? The worse breaking stuff? The declining strikeout rates? The increased walk rates? The dramatically higher LD rates? The lower groundball rates? Or was it the part where he doubled his HR rates?
Isn’t: “Gigantic hells to the no” the same position that we had on Burnett this time next season?
Some of us, yes. And some of the potential reasons we were saying that gigantic hells to the no have already come to pass, to be blunt. You’re not really strengthening your case here.
Furthermore, what has Chamberlain done to instill confidence in his next season’s performance? Was it the decreased velocity? The worse breaking stuff? The declining strikeout rates? The increased walk rates? The dramatically higher LD rates? The lower groundball rates? Or was it the part where he doubled his HR rates?
It was the fact that A) he didn’t get hurt B) he’s still Joba Chamberlain, Pitching Prospect Extraordinare, C) he’ll be a year older D) he’ll have no effective innings limit since he’ll pitch around 170-180 IP this year, giving him a cap of 200-210.
Burnett’s actually been a pretty big part of Yankee success…he’s completely boom or bust when it comes to his starts…he’s pitched quite a few HUGE games for the Yankees. I’ve been okay with signing him.
As to Chamberlain…he didn’t get hurt, I agree that’s a good thing, but nothing about his performance instills confidence in me. Yeah, he’s still Joba Chamberlain…a guy who went from being a Fat Piece of Shit who threw in the mid to high 80s at UNK to one of the most electric pitchers in all of baseball. A pitcher who fell out of the first round because of grotesque injury and conditioning concerns to the number one prospect in all of baseball. He’s had a deep history of not being that great, and there’s plenty in his pedigree to give cause for concern.
While I don’t agree with most of what’s set forth here, I have to say, I like the presentation.
Omar, I’ll be frank. I had a real problem with the way you composed yourself when you first showed up here. I’m glad to see your comments move to civility, and that I can disagree with them without having a conniption. This is the kind of discourse we encourage at RAB.
Rich Harden? Yeah his filthy stuff gives him a 5.1 IP/S and an ERA of 4.09., in the NL
Lackey AND Holliday?
So you want another AJ contract with a Boras client demanding the world because of his performance in the Cards.
Forgive me if I find the odds of that happening very slim.
And of coruse the art of player development must come as a shock to Yankee fans when they don’t get instant gratification. He’s going to start and Hughes is going to start so get used to it now. The Yankees are not going to King Felixes and Tim Lincecums every year even if they get one.
So let’s let the young pitchers pitch and see them progress because development is not a 2 step thing.
Many great pitchers sucked in their first years of starting. But apparently if Joba and Hughes aren’t good now they’ll never be.
First off, this isn’t likely…this would be my idea situation.
Yeah, I know player development takes time, but even when guys like Buchholz struggled they still flashed good stuff and good K-rates…amidst Chamberlain’s struggles just about everything you look for in a young pitcher…Chamberlain hasn’t shown. If he would show signs of progress I wouldn’t have as big of a problem with him.
Buchholz hasn’t pitched the whole year and only has 71 IP. He’s been dominant against team with weak offenses while decent to suckage against better ones.
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009
He’s had a couple good starts against good teams but it’s a small sample size so meh…
David Price is another young guy who’s struggling. He’s only at 109 innings but he’s struggling a bit as well.
http://www.baseball-reference......&year=
He isn’t exactly tearing it up either.
And we can’t say we haven’t seen progress based on almost a full year of starting. If there’s no progress for the next season and the next then there’s a problem. He’s 23 and great pitchers today sucked at his age.
Hughes is even younger. We can’t give up on these guys just yet.
Buchholz and Price both have a better pedigree than Chamberlain, and both have still flashed their frontline stuff…that’s what concerns me the most about Chamberlain is the weakened stuff.
Also, where did I say give up on these guys? All I said was don’t count on them and for the love of god don’t depend on both of them in the rotation going into the season; I don’t recall mentioning trading them for a slightly above average major leaguer like a Shin Soo Choo type of player. When Chamberlain’s name was being mentioned in the Roy Halladay talks I was all for a package centered around Chamberlain…I don’t consider that “giving up” on either of them.
Buchholz and Price both have a better pedigree than Chamberlain
That’s highly debatable,
and both have still flashed their frontline stuff…
So has Joba.
Buchholz maybe, Price was the number one pick in the fucking draft, a highly touted prospect since high school, the number one pitching prospect in all of baseball too, here’s a list of the awards he won in college:
Baseball America College Player of the Year
The Golden Spikes Award
The Roger Clemens award
Please tell me how Chamberlain had the better pedigree, and please don’t make me defend Buchholz.
As to “flash frontline stuff” I meant more than once every four outings.
Please tell me how Chamberlain had the better pedigree, and please don’t make me defend Buchholz.
Never said Chamberlain had the “better” pedigree. Just said he didn’t have the “worse” pedigree.
I’d argue that all three have the same pedigree: future aces. But all three were high draft picks with first round grades, all three have multiple plus pitches, all three are future frontline starters. Inside of that, you’re hairsplitting. Whatevs.
As to “flash frontline stuff” I meant more than once every four outings.
Yeah, but Price and Buchholz don’t do that either.
All three are basically the same: future aces who are works in progress. They’ve all shown enough to be given a spot in the rotation; none of them have shown enough that you can give them a spot without a backup plan. But again, that back up plan does not need to be a 15M AAV Type A free agent starter. It should be a Chad Gaudin or a Justin Duchscherer.
Have you watched Buchholz each time out? Dood looks sick, I hate the guy so I watch his starts to root against him. Gaudin or Duchscherer? Meh…I dunno, I don’t consider Lackey a “back up plan” more of a better option than the ones they currently have.
Also, pedigree is the prospect’s history. Buchholz and Price both have much better histories as a prospect than Chamberlain does. ESPECIALLY Price, there is nothing in Chamberlain’s history as an amateur that resembles David Price’s. Chamberlain had more success in one season as a Minor Leaguer, but that doesn’t erase Price’s demonstrably better history as an amateur. Also Price slamming the door on the Red Sox in G7 of the 2008 ALCS makes up some of that ground too.
David Price’s best 2009 start: http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....evDate=829
Joba Chmaberlian’s best start: http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....evDate=729
Take a look at velocity. They are nearly the same in their same pitches.
He’s shown it, just not very often…and there’s been other times that he’s pitched like he did back in Kearney. That and given his injury history, it’s cause for concern. I never said that the upside wasn’t still there, just that after this season I think it’s less likely that he reaches his ceiling than I did last year.
So do you agree Chamberlain has also flashed his frontline stuff?
He just hasn’t done it consistently like Buchholz and Price.
It’s been playing a disappearing act like David Copperfield, and it’s been not there more often than it’s been there. We’ve seen it, just not that often. Which is a cause for concern, not only has his average velocity dipped, the fastball hasn’t shown the same movement that it once did…and the Slider and Curve aren’t getting the big swings and misses that they once did.
If you payed attention to Price you;d see the same thing.
Pre ASB: 44IP 47K 9.6 K9
PostASB: 65.2IP 44K 6.0 K9
A spillover open thread? This is definitely a new era.
First time for everything.
I don’t think we’ve ever had to do this, but that 500+ comment open thread sure is taking a while to load. Keep the party going here.
Jesus: Normally, I don’t do this, but… [dips finger into water, turning it into wine] go ahead and keep the party going.
“Jesus Christ!”
“Yeah, Dad?”
Get the Escalade! We’re outta here!
Don’t call me Jezee Chrezee!
One of my favorite family guy bits.
My personal favorite:
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=mlb
Just from looking at the title of the article, I was hoping for something more creative. Thumb wrestling? Beer pong?
Rochambeau?
Had to Google that one.
Maybe they could play Canasta.
Ouija?
Oooh, good one. Magic 8 Ball?
You had to Google Rochambeau? Dude. Fu-cking weak.
I’ve always called it Rock-Paper-Scissors.
And, hey, watch how you talk to your customers, or I’ll start trashing the joint.
Bah. We’re equals. I will rib you, and you will rib me. It’s part of the RAB Constitution. Or at least it should be. If there were one…
Sounds like you three have some work to do!
Also, I’m not sure you’ve found the correct definition of Rochambeau. We all know rock-paper-scissors, but Rochambeau isn’t quite that.
http://www.urbandictionary.com.....rochambeau
#2
Oh, my. Well, now I’m just embarrassed.
You can fuck up the site all u want but Joe Paw will wreck ur shit if you touch the joint.
He’s not the only one, I was stuck on the South Park definition until high school.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103724
The South Park definition is the only definition.
Pretty much, yes.
Selig: Alright, guys, everybody gets a vote as to how we break ties for the division. Brian, you’re first.
Cashman: I don’t give a shit what you guys do. We’re winning the AL East by 10 games for the next 15 years and we all know it. So have fun with your “best interleague home-game winning percentage” bullshit, losers.
I’m going pussytubing with Rex, Kerry, and Bart. Cashmoney out, biznatches.
Theo: [crawls into fetal position, begins sobbing]
… aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, SCENE!
Maybe it’s the five Cascazillas, maybe it’s the ganj, but holy shit I am dying laughing righ tnow.
It’s the pussytubing.
That, and the steaks and blowjobs.
Steamed Clam
Any word on what the rookie hazing costumes will be this year?
I’m betting Youkilis was not available tonight, and they brought him out on deck just to get them to pitch to Baldelli or something along those lines. If Youk was available, Tito is not that stupid.
I’ll agree with that.
To be honest, the Red Sox are in as comfortable a lead for the playoffs as the Yanks are. Like we’ve seen with Girardi, Tito needs to give his guys days off, and also evaluate the potential of his bench players (Baldelli pinch hitting in a tight situation).
Did I just defend Tito. …shudder…
He brought Youk out on deck. If he actually intended to use Youk if Baldelli reached, why not use Youk first? He has had the last 3 days off with back spasms. I’ll bet he was not really available.
But why would you put Baldelli in for Drew? Isn’t Drew a better hitter than Baldelli?
their 14m RF cant hit LHP
Wonder if Chad Jennings or Mike Ashmore gets the call from LoHud to interview to replace Pete Abraham
That would be quite cool.
Yes, then Rebecca could give us all the inside dirt from her new boyfriend.
Him?
Nah, it will be Sam Borden or one of their other writers.
Sam actually did a really good job filling in during Pete’s week off- frequent posts and updates. I would not mind that at all.
That’s what I figured.
Nah, it will be Sam
BordenWaterson or one of their other writersFixed
I hope they bring in Carig. He needs a larger platform- he is really good, but does not get much pub.
As long as I can still get updates during ST and behind the scene stuff, I don’t care what happens, Pete did a great job (even if you don’t like his analysis). On a personal standpoint, this is definitely a great opportunity for him, even if he has to cover the Sox, more money and readers are important.
“I don’t think we’ve ever had to do this, but that 10″+ thing sure is taking a while to load. Keep the party going here.”
Are we still talking about Baseball?
From the Pitt the Elder, Lord Palmerston part of the last thread:
You don’t have to try to set me up for that, Tommie. It’s probably my favorite Simpsons exchange ever. My handle on messages boards is almost always Lord Palmerston.
+1
My player piano!
Crap…I can’t remember…which player runs into the burning building?
None other than Jose Canseco.
Well Mr. Burns had done it,
The power plant had won it,
With Roger Clemens clucking all the while,
Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness made us smile,
While Wade Boggs lay unconscious on the barroom tile…
We’re talkin’ softball…
From Maine to San Diego.
Talkin’ softball…
Mattingly and Canseco.
Ken Griffey’s grotesquely swollen jaw.
Steve Sax and his run-in with the law.
We’re talkin’ Homer… Ozzie and the Straw.
We’re talkin’ softball…
From Maine to San Diego.
Talkin’ softball…
Mattingly and Canseco.
Ken Griffey’s grotesquely swollen jaw.
Steve Sax and his run-in with the law.
We’re talkin’ Homer… Ozzie and the Straw.
Please tell me you typed that from memory.
Nah. The human brain can only access so many memories at a time. I process so much information every day that it gets tough to remember everything. Thankfully I work on the Internet, so I have other ways of accessing memories that my brain can’t quite find.
Also:
Canseco.
fate of scranton’s season is in the balance right now..
Open thread overflow. The power of alex gonzalez’ (umm, trying to be nice) interesting posts shall not be underestimated.
Today in religion class, I spent the entire time contemplating the Yankee farm system.
I see no better way to spend your time in such a class.
Whoa.
Let’s get this thread going again…I’m ready.
I surely hope you prayed to Jesus
It is religion after all.
and the great Mo, too… can’t forget about him.
I’m going to suggest a class discussion of Mo’s grace and mysterious power.
You know, one day Im going to bring him just for fun too.
I spent half (only half because I actually had to pay attention for the 1st half because we have to write an essay by Tuesday) of my Globalized religion class thinking about which 2 of the 3 hot and rich (2 from Aspen and one from Minnesota, but still rich and loves Joe Mauer so I was able to talk baseball with her a bit) girls I should choose for a huge project that’s due at the end of semester.
Minnesota.
BTW I went with one of the girls from Aspen who I thought was the best looking and one my best buddies, probably not the best thing but whatever.
I dunno man, the French are assholes.
But she’s from a place where the beer flows like WINE!
Depends on what era we’re talking about.
That was a poor attempt at sounding like a regular.
No, you’re good money. Rock out with your cock out.
Then we can go pussy tubing?
FUCKING HELL YEAH!!! Hey, how many of these sausage patties do you think I can eat in five minutes? YOU WANNA THROW DOWN?
Magic number
http://www.sportsartifacts.com/phberrawire.JPG
We went Chambliss instead. It’s already up.
I’m a fan of the Chambliss selection.
True story, or at least this is how it’s told to me.
My dad and his best friend were in a bar watching the game. My dad turns to Mezz and says, “Chambliss hits one here, and we’re going to the series.” He goes to take a whizz, comes back, and just as he gets back Chambliss hits it.
It’s eerily (yes, that’s the right word, Mondesi) similar to my Boone story. Though I think I was a lot, lot more drunk than my dad at the time.
Agreed, you bastard.
Methinks Mr. Artist is having a hard time coping with the Chambliss over Rizzuto selection.
Well, Rizzuto had more wins. Stats don’t always capture the whole story of a player, but wins are important.
Me, nah. Doesn’t bother me one bit.
Nope. No sir-eeee.
Not me. Go ahead with good old Chris, see if I care.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
ahhhh.. . . much better.
I know, I’m just saying.
I’m sure the Cleveland Indians will retire his #14 one day. Or maybe the Braves will retire his #10, you know, since the Yanks can’t.
/Catty’d
That was Chambliss after the game-winning HR vs the Royals in the 1976 ALCS – so that’s automatically an awesome pic.
A bit of awesomeness from that other #10 and Mr Messer:
And speaking of Chambliss and Rizzuto:
This is hilarious, especially for those who have taken the 1st semester of Spanish:
HA. This was the centerpiece of our comedy skit senior year of high school. Excellent choice Salty.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/5346.....a-mexicana
The out of tune guitar puts it over the top. Bravo.
Heh, really? I hadn’t seen it until my Spanish professor showed us yesterday. On a side note, Im still pissed I have to take Spanish again. I took 4 years in middle and high school. But I failed the placement test because it had been 3 years and I didnt even study for it. But whatever, its easy.
We sat the hottest girl in the school in the middle of the stage and 3 guys in beaters circled her with roses in their mouths. It was excellent.
That’s because you go to a school which requires you take a language. You should have gone to a rinky-dink school like Rutgers, which doesn’t require you to take a language.
And, of course, like the stupid-ass I am, I took a year of Latin.
Hey, does DeVry have a language requirement? Where’s JSB when you need him to ask him the answers to these important DeVry related questions?
Did he not get accepted by DeVry?
He got waitlisted
I wanted to take Italian but whatever, my other classes are hard enough so I wanted to take an easy class. Unfortunately, there’s like one adequate girl in there. However, there is a guy who laughs for every little thing, even if its not funny. He literally cant breathe and always reaching for his water bottle. and today he fell out of his desk when the professor said Spain has a different accent for Spanish. I mean, the professor says something and this guy bursts out laughing no matter what. It’s hilarious.
A lot depends on the post-season.
But if it has a (fairly) happy ending…
I think all 3 should be rewarding with generous 1 year deals.
Perhaps the Yankees should overpay a bit (they do anyway) for these three…for this year and contributions to the team over the years. This will probably be last year on Yanks for each.
Did the Yanks just flip flop CC and AJ’s starts?
… no. AJ started Saturday, CC started Sunday. Looks pretty in line to me.
hmmm I thought CC was supposed to go against Felix and AJ was gonna go with Fister. guess I was mistaken
“AJ was gonna go with Fister”
Oh, man thats hilarious
Damn, comma placement fail
I guess they could go that way. But it puts CC on regular rest and AJ on +2 days.
In any case I think (I hope) that their rotation decisions from here on out are dictated by CC starting on October 7th or 8th.
So when do you guys think we’ll clinch the division?
July.
Your newsletter, is there a subscription feature?
Man i cannot wait for sunday and the JETS vs Pats.
I laid the +7 on the jets on monday morning
now the line is Jets +3.5 (at least is was 9pm last night)
NBA Refs couldn’t reach an agreement…mistake.
Agreed. Their replacements won’t(can’t) be any worse. They won’t be missed.
Uhhhh damn it Wordekemper, you suck.
Onto the other big news of the day: Ham leaving. I view this as an extremely good thing.
A.) We don’t have to suffer through his arrogance in his reporting and personal vendettas against several people in the organization just to read breaking news.
B.) The press box at Fenway is likely to collapse under his weight.
Also, one of Mike, Ben, or Joe need to get a field pass so they can get instant lineup updates as soon as the managers hand them in. While I disagree with several of the commenters here, I still like the blog.
Tune into ESPN Classic immediately if you want to feel creeped out.
Watching SportsCenter: Today’s game against the Tigers was the first time all year Zack Greinke had pitched in the first inning with a lead. This is his 30th start on the year.
Great googily moogily.
Holy pathetic offense Batman!
Well, to be fair, he could only pitch in the first with a lead when he’s on the road. So 30 starts is a bit misleading.
The voice of reason.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
True, but, still, DAMNS, YO.
For the record, 15 away starts including today.
SWB loses =(
Curious to see if they add anyone to the 40 man to bring up for a cup of coffee.
maybe a darkhorse in ajax???
Scranton W/B just lost 3-2 in 12 innings
they left 2 men on base with 2 outs in the bottom of the 12th
Rats. It was a good season SWB.
SWB Yanks lose with runners on 2nd and 3rd and two out while being down one in the bottom of the 12th as Bernier grounded out.
Wait wait hold on. Durham, I’ma let you finish, but SWB had one of the best seasons EVER.
/Kanye West’d
Hehe
At least next year, SWB gets some ZMac, Montero, and a little more Jackson, that’ll be something to watch.
That team will be insane.
Mariners walk-off celebrations are weak.
BTW, with them going 14 innings and having to get 8.1 innings out of their, it’ll help us.
*their pen
Until King Felix starts.
“Go fuck yourselves, San Diego” was the “Moment of Zen” on The Daily Show.
Robinson Cano has played exceptionally well this year, both on the field & at the plate. Cano’s trade value may never get any higher than now.
If the Yankees were to shop Cano this coming off-season, what could they possibly get in return for him? He is signed through 2011 for $10 million per year, which is affordable when you consider that he is putting up Chase Utley-type numbers this season.
I ask this because the SF Giants were willing to trade a terrific young starter in Tim Alderson for a soon-to-be 32-year old 2B in Freddy Sanchez. Alderson won’t turn 21 until early November while Sanchez hits 32 at the end of this year.
I’m especially intrigued at possible top-of-the-rotation prospects such as Alderson. You can still sign bats through free agency. However, other than CC, which other aces have made it onto free agency in the past 5 years while still in their prime?
No.
Very thoughtful and profound.
only if we can move the SP prospect to the 7th inning when hes ready to come to the majors
Oh, and your top of the rotation prospect Alderson is K-ing 5.5 batters per 9 innings, in AA.
Joba is over 7 in the majors and we have people bitching about him.
Yeah Alderson was reevaluated this year. He wasn’t as big as a prospect this year according to most scouts.
I’ll take your word for it because i really dont know. But figured, i knew he was a former 1st round pick, but assumed hes wasnt a Buchholz/Hughes/Joba talent because didnt really see anyone flipping out over the trade for a 32yr old 2B
I can’t respond to the Canes talk in the other thread so here goes:
HELL YEAH!
It’s Great to be a Miami Hurrrrricane!
I love my school. and our football team