Sep
21

Robertson aims for weekend return

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While the Yankees are getting Andy Pettitte back from his stint of extended rest tonight, another injured pitcher plans to make his return this weekend. David Robertson threw for the third time in six days prior to the Yanks’ Sunday game and says he felt great. Joe Girardi too was impressed with the progress his key middle reliever has made. Robertson will throw from a mound on Tuesday or Wednesday and hopes to pitch in a game this weekend against Boston. If Robertson is healthy, the Yanks’ pen will be fearsome indeed come the playoffs.

Meanwhile, because it’s come up via a few e-mails and off-topic comments, the Yankees will throw CC Sabathia, Joba Chamberlain and Andy Pettitte against the Red Sox this weekend. I believe the Sox will counter with Dice-K, Tim Wakefield and Josh Beckett.

Categories : Asides, Injuries

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  1. So, leaving the Joba Quandary out of it for a second, what are we looking at for October?

    Innings 1-6: Starting Pitcher
    Inning 7: Either the SP (if he’s feeling it) or D-Rob/Aceves
    Inning 8: Hughes
    Inning 9: Mo

    … with Marte and Coke getting the occasional LOOGY time? DRob, Ace, Marte or Coke as the first reliever of the night, Hughes after that, Mo after that? Maybe the occasional Gaudin in low-leverage?

    We’re good.

    • OmgZombies! says:

      Any combination that does not involve Bruney is fine with me

      • I’d say the ALDS pitching staff looks like this at the moment:

        LOCKS:
        CC, AJ, Andy in the rotation
        Mo, Hughes, Aceves, DRob, Marte, Coke, Gaudin in the bullpen
        Joba on the staff somehow

        That’s 11 pitchers. Everyone else is on the bubble. I don’t think Joba gets left off entirely, simply because even if he’s not good enough to start a game (and there probably isn’t a start for him anyway), he’s just a better pitcher than Bruney, Albaladejo, Mitre, Melancon, and Edwar, so we’d keep him on the roster as the 11th pitcher and just use him in a bullpen appearance rather than give the ball to any other 11th pitcher.

        We probably don’t carry 12 pitchers for the ALDS, but if we do, those five pitchers on the bubble are fighting to prove they’re worth more than Ramiro Peña or Freddy Guzman (and they’re probably not.)

    • Makavelli says:

      There’s no guarantee that the rotation is set up exactly the same in the ALCS or World Series though right? Depending on how many games Sabathia has to pitch in the ALDS, it might change…plus, AJ has been inconsistent…and Pettitte at home has an ERA nearly 2 runs higher than on the road.

      And on top of that…THEN we worry about who pitches the #4 start…Joba? Gaudin?

      There are a lot of questions. And despite what others have said in the other thread…all starts are important. Sabathia will seemingly face a tremendous pitcher which we could very well lose to…making the #4 starter that much more important.

      • Nady Nation says:

        The Red Sox have the same exact concerns that you just listed, yet you choose to ignore that fact.

        • Makavelli says:

          I’m not a Red Sox fan. I don’t worry about their concerns. They seem to be winning games…we don’t seem to be winning as much. I discussed why we haven’t. If the Red Sox have concerns…it’s not exactly showing at the moment…though you’re right. It may very well change. But as of right now…it is what it is.

          • Nady Nation says:

            All you do is compare the Yankees’ performance to the Red Sox’s. Yet you don’t concern yourself with the Red Sox. OK, whatever.

            • Makavelli says:

              I’m not a Red Sox fan. I don’t worry about their concerns.

              All you do is compare the Yankees’ performance to the Red Sox’s. Yet you don’t concern yourself with the Red Sox. OK, whatever.

              I don’t think you’re reading my posts correctly. I don’t worry about their concerns. I do worry when they are doing well…in which they are. I also live in Red Sox territory where it’s all I hear about. I’m very aware of their needs and concerns although I don’t exactly worry about it…especially when they’re still winning games at a 9-1 clip.

              Joba has been horrible for months now. AJ has been pretty terrible as well up until his last start, in which we still lost.

              I’m concerned with them because we’re losing more and they’re winning more. I think it’s a justified state to be in. That’s all.

          • Ed says:

            I’m not a Red Sox fan. I don’t worry about their concerns. They seem to be winning games…we don’t seem to be winning as much.

            The Yankees have been taking it easy. Even if they play horribly the rest of the way and the Red Sox play their best, the Yankees win the wild card.

            Until this week, the Rangers were close enough to be a threat for the wild card. Boston had to play well to ensure they reach the postseason.

            There’s just no reason for the Yankees to play at 100% right now. They’ll just wear themselves out and weaken the team for October. Now that the Red Sox are way ahead of Texas, expect them to slow down as well.

            • Zack says:

              “Now that the Red Sox are way ahead of Texas, expect them to slow down as well.”

              They are. If everyone payed attention to them like we do to the Yankees, they’d know that they’ll be giving Youk time off for his back, Becektt extended rest because hes not a horse, Drew time off because hes Drew, Wake time off because hes Wake, etc.

              They’re not going balls to the wall for the division, after the series this weekend they’re putting it on cruise control like the Yankees have been for the last 2 weeks

              • Makavelli says:

                The only difference is they’ll be doing this at home where they still crush other teams…not on a West Coast/St. Petersburg trip like we have…with a few home games sandwiched in the middle.

                • Zack says:

                  Home
                  NYY 52-23
                  BOS 52-22

                  Road
                  NYY 43-32
                  BOS 37-37

                  I dont get this myth that BOS is unbeatable at home and Yankees can only win in the bandbox.

                • Makavelli says:

                  I don’t remember ever saying that…but thanks for the update.

                  All I’m saying is that we’re far away on a road trip where we’re not AS good (especially during a slump that we’re having)…while the Red Sox are at home where they are FAR better than on the road.

                  I don’t see anywhere where I say they are unbeatable at home and the Yankees only win in a bandbox? Do you?

                • Ed says:

                  Ok, so the Red Sox will be playing half-assed, meaningless baseball at home while the Yankees are doing likewise on the road. This means what exactly?

                • Makavelli says:

                  Why wouldn’t the Red Sox want to try to get the division if it’s in reach? Especially since their Home/Road splits are FAR larger than the Yankees. I don’t know why they would pack it in…if anything they’ll go hard for it. No?

                • Zack says:

                  Because Beckett is on pace to thrown a career high in innings, before the playoffs even start, at age 29. DiceK isnt all the way back to ‘ace form.’ Wakefield has no back. Youk was just out with a back issue. Drew is always beat up. Lowell needs rest for his rip also.

                  That’s why. They’re not going to run their team into the ground, trying to get something they wont get, and screw themselves for the playoffs.

                • Ed says:

                  Because the marginal value of winning the division over winning the wild card is very small.

                  A well rested team with the wild card is better than a worn out team with a first place finish.

                  A well rested team with the wild card is far, far better than a worn out team that tried hard for first place but ended up with the wildcard anyway.

      • None of this has anything to do with what I’m talking about, so I’m ignoring it. Have fun running through your doomsday scenarios in your mind by yourself.

        • Makavelli says:

          In order to get to the outstanding bullpen, you need to have decent starts. If you don’t have half-way decent starts at the very least…the bullpen becomes a moot point. No?

          That being said, getting Robertson is still a HUGE upgrade…and some good news. But the bullpen wasn’t really ever the concern…at least lately.

          • Nope, still not biting.

            Ben: David Robertson is coming back.
            Me: Sweet. Here’s how I think our bullpen probably lines up now.
            You: Yes, but what about the rotation? And what about the difference between the ALCS and the WS when it comes to the rotation? And what about inconsistency, and home-road splits amongst rotation starters? And what about the fourth starter? And what about other teams’ aces? What about all that? What about worrying aboout all these other things that weren’t at all related to what you two guys were talking about, huh? Shouldn’t we be freaking out about that? Shouldn’t we?

            OAKTAG.

            • jsbrendog says:

              oak to the tizzy

            • Makavelli says:

              Yeah, except that’s not what happened…but we can pretend it did for the sake of stopping the argument.

              • No, that’s exactly what happened. Exactly.

                Ben was talking about Robertson and the bullpen. I responded with talk about Robertson and the bullpen.

                You tried to hijack the convo with your off-topicness about imminent death syndrome, as is your wont. So, fuck that oaktaggery.

                • Makavelli says:

                  You’re right. Bringing up validity on how the upgrade of the bullpen is meaningless if the starters don’t get better shouldn’t be talked about.

                  Robertson is back. He’ll make everything better from here on out. My mistake.

                • You’re right. Bringing up validity on how the upgrade of the bullpen is meaningless if the starters don’t get better shouldn’t be talked about.

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                • Makavelli says:

                  Please. You don’t agree with me so you throw this out there in order to stop it.

                  There have been several posts where off topic conversations go on and youtube videos are posted or movie quotes…or other jokes. But those are ok.

                  I bring up something that actually is related…perhaps not to your standards…and the guidelines get thrown in my face.

                  Whatever. Regardless, it’s still a concern.

                • There’s only one person who thinks it’s related:

                  You.

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                • Ed says:

                  Please. You don’t agree with me so you throw this out there in order to stop it.

                  It’s not that he doesn’t agree with you. It’s that you keep posting the same concerns over and over, whether it’s relevant to the topic at hand or not. We’ve all heard you before. Most of us think you’re overreacting and have given you plenty of arguments.

                  There have been several posts where off topic conversations go on and youtube videos are posted or movie quotes…or other jokes. But those are ok.

                  Most of that is friendly chit-chit. It is a social site here. Just about every conversation about the rotation in a post about the bullpen gets yelled at for being off-topic though. Discussion of the proper roles of Hughes & Joba is probably the exception, in which case you get a short lease before getting yelled at for beating a dead horse.

                  I bring up something that actually is related…perhaps not to your standards…and the guidelines get thrown in my face.

                  By the usual standards of this site, it’s not related.

                • I bring up something that actually is related…perhaps not to your standards…and the guidelines get thrown in my face.

                  We already deleted one of your comments from this thread for being off-topic. They’re not the “Commenting Guidlines for Everyone But Makavelli.” If you really want an outlet for your musings about how the Yankees are going to miss the playoffs or whatever, start your own site. But please, respect the guidelines while you are commenting here.

              • pete c. says:

                Be strong Mak. The Hartford Courant said in Sunday’s paper “Burnett is built for the postseason”. So no worries.

                • Makavelli says:

                  Thanks Pete. I know we’ll be fine…I’m just bringing up accurate and worthy concerns that people seem to push to the side. I still have confidence.

    • Nady Nation says:

      But we’re only playing .400 baseball.

  2. Accent Shallow says:

    I believe the Red Sox are pushing Lester back so he’ll start the first game of the series with the Yankees.

  3. On topic:

    Getting Robertson back is a big boost. He’s finally starting to break his way into higher leverage situations and I think next year he’ll be an even bigger asset than he has been this year. It’s nice to see that he doesn’t have much of a platoon split (though his OBP vs. RHP is “meh” at .337) and that no one seems to be hitting for much power off of him (.376 SLGA, 0.9 HR/9).

    • Accent Shallow says:

      That 0.9 HR/9 is a little high for such a low SLGA . . .ok, he’s allowing a .159 ISO, which is a little higher than you’d like.

      Still, he’s shown a great tendency to suppress homers in the minors, hopefully he can improve on that up here.

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  5. steve s says:

    I don’t buy for a second that the Red Sox aren’t going “balls to the wall” to win the division. Bos will do everything they can to avoid playing the Angels/Yanks on the road and, at the same time, do huge damage to the Yankee psyche. The Yanks need to go “balls to the wall” to secure the division and best record. Anything less at this stage would be a playoff death wish.

    • Bob Stone says:

      Anything less than an all-out effort by the Yankees to clinch the division and best record is insane. Why face both LA and Boston as the visitor when you could have home field advantage against Det/Min and only one of Boston/LA?

      • Zack says:

        IF the Yankees go 6-6 the rest of the year, Sox have to go 11-3 to tie for the division. If they go 7-5, Sox have to go 12-2, etc. Not going to happen.

    • AndrewYF says:

      Why would Boston want to avoid playing the Angels?

      • Bob Stone says:

        Let’s ignore the fact that Boston has done well against LA in previous years.. that was then and this is now. Boston’s record this year is better against Det/Min than LA. Plus LA is a much better team than either Detroit or Minnesota.

  6. Makavelli says:

    If Robertson is healthy, the Yanks’ pen will be fearsome indeed come the playoffs.

    My point was that even if the bullpen is great…which it has been…and Robertson being 2nd in the game with K’s per 9 is outstanding with nearly 13 or 14 K’s per 9 is it? If we don’t have decent starts…the bullpen will be a moot point.

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