Comments on: Scranton falls short in bid to repeat http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 14:51:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Saying goodbye to DotF | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-587372 Saying goodbye to DotF | River Avenue Blues Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:01:21 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-587372 [...] Triple-A Scranton lost to Durham last night, the Yankees’ 2009 minor league season officially came to an end. Both High-A Tampa and Short [...] [...] Triple-A Scranton lost to Durham last night, the Yankees’ 2009 minor league season officially came to an end. Both High-A Tampa and Short [...]

]]> By: DRU http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586679 DRU Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:41:32 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586679 I think the Mets training staff is gettin A LOT of heat for all the injuries, maybe too much. There are only so many things a training staff can be responsible for, I dont think Johan is one. If you remember, the last year Johan was with the Twins, he was complaining about elbow issues. Johan was a ticking time bomb, I think he would have went under the knife regardless. I dont think the Mets abused him this year either, his innings per start was a career low in 09. Oh well, its all speculation. I would just love for the NY media to give credit where credit is due. They're real quick to jump on Cashman for bad moves, ( Sheff over Vlad...Pavano over Beckett...Giambi over Papi ) but say nothing when a good one is made. Since Cashman started calling the shots ( when the old man, and his Tampa cronies were taken out of the equation ), the team is better and the farm has improved exponentially. Damn, I sound like a Cashman groupie...lol GO BRIAN!!!! I think the Mets training staff is gettin A LOT of heat for all the injuries, maybe too much. There are only so many things a training staff can be responsible for, I dont think Johan is one. If you remember, the last year Johan was with the Twins, he was complaining about elbow issues. Johan was a ticking time bomb, I think he would have went under the knife regardless. I dont think the Mets abused him this year either, his innings per start was a career low in 09.

Oh well, its all speculation. I would just love for the NY media to give credit where credit is due. They’re real quick to jump on Cashman for bad moves, ( Sheff over Vlad…Pavano over Beckett…Giambi over Papi ) but say nothing when a good one is made. Since Cashman started calling the shots ( when the old man, and his Tampa cronies were taken out of the equation ), the team is better and the farm has improved exponentially.

Damn, I sound like a Cashman groupie…lol

GO BRIAN!!!!

]]> By: Doug http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586666 Doug Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:36:14 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586666 DRU, honestly if the tex price would've been driven up above $200M (even to $250M like you speculate), I would've rather had the sox sign him. would strap them big-time going forward. DRU, honestly if the tex price would’ve been driven up above $200M (even to $250M like you speculate), I would’ve rather had the sox sign him. would strap them big-time going forward.

]]> By: Doug http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586664 Doug Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:33:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586664 agree on 1. and 2. not sure you can just assume santana would be on the DL though. maybe the yankee would've handled him differently this season or had him on a different offseason training regimen that would have kept him healthy. however, i'm completely with you in that making the santana deal would've been a big mistake agree on 1. and 2.

not sure you can just assume santana would be on the DL though. maybe the yankee would’ve handled him differently this season or had him on a different offseason training regimen that would have kept him healthy.

however, i’m completely with you in that making the santana deal would’ve been a big mistake

]]> By: DRU http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586662 DRU Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:33:17 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586662 Doug...the Tex going to Boston is a little of a reach, but you can GUARANTEE that if CC was not signed, the media and everyone else would have been pushing to get Tex on the Yanks. At the minimum, the price would have been a lot more. The Sox took a gamble not offering him more money because they thought the Yanks were out of it due to the CC and AJ signings. If they were battling the Yanks, they would have driven up the price for Boras. Scotty would have milked us. The way it played out in the offseason, us scooping him up undercover, was a DREAM scenario. Doug…the Tex going to Boston is a little of a reach, but you can GUARANTEE that if CC was not signed, the media and everyone else would have been pushing to get Tex on the Yanks. At the minimum, the price would have been a lot more. The Sox took a gamble not offering him more money because they thought the Yanks were out of it due to the CC and AJ signings. If they were battling the Yanks, they would have driven up the price for Boras. Scotty would have milked us. The way it played out in the offseason, us scooping him up undercover, was a DREAM scenario.

]]> By: DRU http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586660 DRU Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:30:19 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586660 Very true Mike, there could have been several different scenarios. Couple things would be a given though... 1. We would not have CC, no way. 2. We would not have Hughes, Ian, Melk and Marquez. 3. Johan would be on the DL You can draw your own conclusions from there. Bottom line though, we are a better team for not making that deal. That's really all I was getting at. Thanks for responding though Mike! Very true Mike, there could have been several different scenarios. Couple things would be a given though…

1. We would not have CC, no way.
2. We would not have Hughes, Ian, Melk and Marquez.
3. Johan would be on the DL

You can draw your own conclusions from there.

Bottom line though, we are a better team for not making that deal. That’s really all I was getting at.

Thanks for responding though Mike!

]]> By: Doug http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586658 Doug Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:29:35 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586658 yeah, a lot of giant leaps were made, especially the tex one. not sure how you could say or even speculate how that would've played out yeah, a lot of giant leaps were made, especially the tex one. not sure how you could say or even speculate how that would’ve played out

]]> By: Mike Axisa http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586652 Mike Axisa Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:23:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586652 The problem is, like tsjc said, is the fallacy of the predetermined outcome. Who's to say Hughes wouldn't be pitching to a 3.50 ERA as a starter for the Twins right now if the deal was made? Or that instead of trading Swisher because they didn't have Marquez, they signed Adam Dunn instead? However, I absolutely agree it was smart not to make the move, and it looks real good right now. The problem is, like tsjc said, is the fallacy of the predetermined outcome. Who’s to say Hughes wouldn’t be pitching to a 3.50 ERA as a starter for the Twins right now if the deal was made? Or that instead of trading Swisher because they didn’t have Marquez, they signed Adam Dunn instead?

However, I absolutely agree it was smart not to make the move, and it looks real good right now.

]]> By: DRU http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586643 DRU Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:16:45 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586643 Well maybe you should read the entire post before casting judgment. The post is pretty accurate, if I do say so myself. Well maybe you should read the entire post before casting judgment. The post is pretty accurate, if I do say so myself.

]]> By: DRU http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/scranton-falls-short-in-bid-to-repeat-17265/#comment-586641 DRU Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:15:13 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=17265#comment-586641 good lookin out! good lookin out!

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