Comments on: Pettitte: ‘I wasn’t real happy with the contract’ http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Wayne's World http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653925 Wayne's World Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:15:49 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653925 He's got 10 fingers, though...plenty of room for more rings. When it comes down to it, these players who make noises about leaving often have the hardest time giving it up. See also: Bernie Williams. He’s got 10 fingers, though…plenty of room for more rings. When it comes down to it, these players who make noises about leaving often have the hardest time giving it up. See also: Bernie Williams.

]]> By: Pettitte not pleased with 2009 contract | The Yankee Universe http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653564 Pettitte not pleased with 2009 contract | The Yankee Universe Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:49:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653564 [...] to RAB for pointing out this interesting bit on Andy Pettitte in the LA Times (a Kevin Baxter [...] [...] to RAB for pointing out this interesting bit on Andy Pettitte in the LA Times (a Kevin Baxter [...]

]]> By: Pettitte not pleased with ‘09 contract : The iYankees Blog http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653369 Pettitte not pleased with ‘09 contract : The iYankees Blog Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:30:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653369 [...] to RAB for pointing out this interesting bit on Andy Pettitte in the LA Times (a Kevin Baxter [...] [...] to RAB for pointing out this interesting bit on Andy Pettitte in the LA Times (a Kevin Baxter [...]

]]> By: Tank Foster http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653346 Tank Foster Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:30:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653346 <b>This team is ready to dominate for years, and that’s got to have appeal.</b> Kinda, but not really. Dominating for years is next to impossible. Everything has to go right. Andy knows next season could be a struggle to make the wild card. I think it will come down to the plain and simple question of how he feels and how much he loves competing. I don't think he'll pitch anywhere but for the Yankees, and I don't think he'll turn down any reasonable deal IF he decides he wants to pitch. He'll definitely be offered a higher guaranteed salary than this year. This team is ready to dominate for years, and that’s got to have appeal.

Kinda, but not really. Dominating for years is next to impossible. Everything has to go right. Andy knows next season could be a struggle to make the wild card.

I think it will come down to the plain and simple question of how he feels and how much he loves competing. I don’t think he’ll pitch anywhere but for the Yankees, and I don’t think he’ll turn down any reasonable deal IF he decides he wants to pitch. He’ll definitely be offered a higher guaranteed salary than this year.

]]> By: Tank Foster http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653344 Tank Foster Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:27:44 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653344 So little Johnny walks into Mom & Dad's room and sees Dad having his way with Mom up against the dresser. Dad winks and laughs and tells little Johnny to close the door. Later, Dad hears noises from little Johnny's room. He opens the door to see little Johnny going at grandma up against the dresser. Dad says "What are you doing, little Johnny?" Johnny answers "yeah, it's not so funny when it's <i>your</i> Mom, is it?" So little Johnny walks into Mom & Dad’s room and sees Dad having his way with Mom up against the dresser. Dad winks and laughs and tells little Johnny to close the door. Later, Dad hears noises from little Johnny’s room. He opens the door to see little Johnny going at grandma up against the dresser. Dad says “What are you doing, little Johnny?” Johnny answers “yeah, it’s not so funny when it’s your Mom, is it?”

]]> By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653263 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:29:42 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653263 Because AJ's salary is completely irrelevant. The only thing that's relevant is what the Yanks, and other teams, offer to pay Pettitte. For example, if nobody offers him anything more than $10M/year the Yanks certainly don't have to give him more than AJ makes just because Andy's as good as AJ. The Yankees have to deal with Pettitte's market value the same way they have to deal with any other player's market value, not his (or any other player's) value solely vis a vis AJ Burnett. Because AJ’s salary is completely irrelevant. The only thing that’s relevant is what the Yanks, and other teams, offer to pay Pettitte. For example, if nobody offers him anything more than $10M/year the Yanks certainly don’t have to give him more than AJ makes just because Andy’s as good as AJ. The Yankees have to deal with Pettitte’s market value the same way they have to deal with any other player’s market value, not his (or any other player’s) value solely vis a vis AJ Burnett.

]]> By: Tom Zig http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653242 Tom Zig Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:45:55 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653242 We just went out and spent $400+ million last offseason. What more do you want? Lackey? I say pass unless he'll take a 3 year deal, which he won't. Holliday? I say pass unless he'll take a 4 year deal, which he won't. Figgins? Where do we put him? He hasn't played LF in years and doesn't hit for nearly enough power to justify a corner spot, which he may or may not be able to play. Pass We just went out and spent $400+ million last offseason. What more do you want?

Lackey? I say pass unless he’ll take a 3 year deal, which he won’t.

Holliday? I say pass unless he’ll take a 4 year deal, which he won’t.

Figgins? Where do we put him? He hasn’t played LF in years and doesn’t hit for nearly enough power to justify a corner spot, which he may or may not be able to play. Pass

]]> By: Ed http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653237 Ed Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:39:21 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653237 Agreed on your analysis. Also, AJ's value would be diminished by his injury history. Pettitte has been in the majors 4 seasons longer than AJ, but he's pitched 1343 more innings (not counting postseason innings). Despite the age difference, Andy's more likely to hold up than AJ. Especially when you're talking 1 year versus 5. Agreed on your analysis.

Also, AJ’s value would be diminished by his injury history. Pettitte has been in the majors 4 seasons longer than AJ, but he’s pitched 1343 more innings (not counting postseason innings). Despite the age difference, Andy’s more likely to hold up than AJ. Especially when you’re talking 1 year versus 5.

]]> By: MikeD http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653233 MikeD Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:32:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653233 Mo wanted a four-year contract to match Posada's, but they only gave him a three-year deal. As I said when it was signed, they will be faced with yet another extension for Rivera. They should try to sign him to a two-year extension now. It'll be cheaper than if they wait until they end of the 2010 season. There is no evidence that Rivera is slowing down. Mo wanted a four-year contract to match Posada’s, but they only gave him a three-year deal. As I said when it was signed, they will be faced with yet another extension for Rivera. They should try to sign him to a two-year extension now. It’ll be cheaper than if they wait until they end of the 2010 season. There is no evidence that Rivera is slowing down.

]]> By: MikeD http://riveraveblues.com/2009/10/pettitte-i-wasnt-real-happy-with-the-contract-19045/#comment-653228 MikeD Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:20:25 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19045#comment-653228 AJ is younger, but there is no evidence that AJ is better. The younger part is totally trumped by the one-year contract that Pettitte can request. A team like the Yankees can elect to "over pay" on a one year contract, so all things being equal, they should pay Pettitte more than they're paying AJ. The Yanks got a great deal this year on Andy. If I'm Pettitte's agent, I would not let this happen again. AJ is younger, but there is no evidence that AJ is better.

The younger part is totally trumped by the one-year contract that Pettitte can request. A team like the Yankees can elect to “over pay” on a one year contract, so all things being equal, they should pay Pettitte more than they’re paying AJ.

The Yanks got a great deal this year on Andy. If I’m Pettitte’s agent, I would not let this happen again.

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