Comments on: Rethinking Santana and Sabathia, again

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:04:22 +0000

……and Santana is on the DL.

So right now while he’s out,
Hughes has been the set-up man who posted a 1.40 era as a reliever, Melky is hitting around .400 in the postseason, and Kennedy is making a resounding comeback in winter ball.

So if you want to deal in the “now” instead of the future, there’s your present.

By: Moboy

Moboy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:25:32 +0000

Lets not get too crazy.Hughes isn’t Lincecum,Melky is still a fourth starter and KEnnedy is trade bait.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:43:13 +0000

“His WHIP has increased each of the last 5 years, while his SO/BB has decreased each of those years as well. He is declining.”

I’m having a hard time figuring out where you stand on Santana. On one hand, you say that the Yankees would have been contenders last year if they made the trade. And on the other, you’re saying they would have traded for a declining pitcher.

So if you agree that Cashman was smart not making the deal, then how good the Yankees would have been with Santana last year means nothing. It has about as much relevence as wondering how good the Yankees would have been with Brandon Webb!

By: jsbrendog

jsbrendog — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:40:47 +0000

in his last 4 yrs with the mets:

ops + of 150, 126, 129, and 141 in only half a season this yr,.

3 gold gloves.

he is a star. leader maybe not, but he is a slid star with star numbers.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:35:12 +0000

“Which didn’t allow us to get Carlos Beltran. That still irks me”

Yeah, and Carlos Beltran has been so “big time” for the Mets. The only reason any Yankee fan would complain about not getting that guy is because the Yankees haven’t really made any effort to get a full time centerfielder since.

I thought Beltran was going to be a star too, but he never really stepped up to be the kind of on and off the field leader the Mets need.

Maybe he’d be different as a Yankee, but I don’t think he’s worth all that scratch as a Met.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:24:02 +0000

It’s really hard to fathom a Yankee fan pining about one more big deal. That’s the one good thing about a salary cap league…………the rules don’t allow the fans to get jaded.

By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:21:52 +0000

That.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:14:03 +0000

And I’ll tell you something else…….I don’t think Joe Girardi was ready to lead this team anywhere last year either. He was an insecure, stressed-out control freak who was as much a reason for them missing the postseason as the injuries were.

He’s still a bozo, but he was 10 times a better manager this year than he was last year. And it’s not just because the team is better. His whole attitude and demeanor improved. I mean, to think just a year ago he was taking candy machines out of the clubhouse! Now he’s allowing kids in.

By: pete

pete — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:12:35 +0000

gahhhh no. the jury is not still out. the decision was made when it was made. if CC suddenly starts sucking, that doesn’t render Cashman’s decision “wrong” it makes it unlucky. This is the same way of thinking that people who want to fire Girardi have because they can say “I didn’t agree with the move and then it didn’t work out, so I was right and he was wrong!” when in reality, people have to make decisions BEFORE the outcomes are known. The rightness/wrongness of a decision is a singular, unchanging fact that is based wholly on the information available to the decision-maker at the time of the decision. The decision was right when it was made, because many of the events that followed (signing CC, him being awesome) were, at the time, likely to follow.

By: Tom Zig

Tom Zig — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:11:54 +0000

or if CC wants to stay, Felix can come in anyways.

That’d be one hell of a rotation, CC or not.