Comments on: Rosenthal: Maybe starting Gaudin isn’t such a bad idea

By: Tom Q

Tom Q — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:30:14 +0000

It’s never dick-ish to get facts straight. Obviously my brain condensed the nightmare.

But I don’t think it negates my overall point. 5 runs in 3 2/3 doesn’t match up to “Andy at 75% is better than Gaudin could possibly be”. We’ve established that CC can do the three-days-rest thing without instant decline; for some guys that’s not the case. (Clemens also sucked wind on three days in that Oakland series…then threw two of his best postseason games on regular rest vs. Seattle and the Mets) I’m just very wary of watching Andy try something at which he’s already done pooorly when he’s nine years older.

It’s not an easy decision, overall; Joba’s innings limit has reduced our options to the iffy or the more iffy.

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:16:32 +0000

The memory of Andy’s start in that first round deciding game is still with me — the Yanks had scored 6 runs in the top of the first and seemed in firm control…till Andy gave up 5 in the bottom of the first

not trying to be a dick, but this didn’t quite happen as you remember it:

http://www.baseball-reference......0080.shtml

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:14:02 +0000

and what if it rains after game 5? you’ve handed Philly a game and set up Lee for game 7.

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:45 +0000

yeah, what are you basing this on?

By: Tom Zig

Tom Zig — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:48:25 +0000

Gaudin has to NOT make a start

fixed

By: Sweet Dick Willie

Sweet Dick Willie — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:33:43 +0000

One could also say you run a chance of sacrificing two starts if you send guys out on short rest that are not up to the task…

One can say anything one wants to say, but that doesn’t make it so.

And who says they would not be up to the task? AJ has a good record of pitching on short rest, and said he would look forward to it.

I would certainly rather have that than giving Guadin a start. That is doubly dangerous, because not only would the Phillies likely pound him, but you could burn through the bullpen and screw yourself for the next game.

By: whozat

whozat — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:32:18 +0000

Probably because he doesn’t have a good pitch to use, so he either nibbles and hopes they don’t make good contact or he throws strikes and they pound the ball.

By: whozat

whozat — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:31:11 +0000

That doesn’t work right. If the game is rained out tonight, there’d be 5 games in a row, right?

11/1 Game 3 – CC on short rest
11/2 Game 4 – Andy
11/3 Game 5 – AJ on normal rest
11/4 Game 6 – ????
11/5 Game 7 – ????

By: whozat

whozat — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:27:48 +0000

Yes. I agree with you. CC, AJ and Andy all on short rest is the right thing to do.

However, it’s still the case that the calculation is not “there is one game to start, and the choice is CC on short rest or Gaudin for the first time in 22 days.” The answer to that question is blatantly obvious, but that’s not the choice with which the team is confronted.

By: gargoyle

gargoyle — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:27:16 +0000

Even at 2-2 I’d go with Gaudin in game 5. It’s not agiven they lose that game and even if they do they Lee is not out of the rest of teh series and the matchups favor the NYY for games 6 and 7.

CC on thre days rest is one thing. AJ and AP on 3 days rest is another (not good) thing.

Gaudin has to make a start.