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		<title>By: Fan Confidence Poll: November 9th, 2009 &#124; River Avenue Blues</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-680544</link>
		<dc:creator>Fan Confidence Poll: November 9th, 2009 &#124; River Avenue Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChrisS</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-669222</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No where in my post is there any mention about Gaudin starting.

None.

I posted that it&#039;s not easy to just shrug off fatigue because it&#039;s a big moment.  And sometimes being mere inches off because of fatigue is subtle and can be really bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No where in my post is there any mention about Gaudin starting.</p>
<p>None.</p>
<p>I posted that it&#8217;s not easy to just shrug off fatigue because it&#8217;s a big moment.  And sometimes being mere inches off because of fatigue is subtle and can be really bad.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisS</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-669212</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Three words: Chien-Ming Wang.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;That is, until they start showing success against professional baseball players like everyone else.&quot;

Chapman is a pitching prospect.

TNSTAPP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Three words: Chien-Ming Wang.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;That is, until they start showing success against professional baseball players like everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chapman is a pitching prospect.</p>
<p>TNSTAPP.</p>
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		<title>By: TLVP</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-669196</link>
		<dc:creator>TLVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is too late so i guess no one will read it, but for my own sake i&#039;ll write down my thoughts

There are to things that are quite funny about all of this

1) Underling argument was that people are too shortsighted and don&#039;t look to the what if scenario. In fact most people to begin with was so quick to jump the gun that they didn&#039;t actually read what i had written. Ironic to say the least

2) What is also ironic is that the probabilities that everyone jumped at was not chosen as something i myself believed in but actaully watered down versions of my own instinct. For the record -I think AJ has 45% win probability tonight. I think Gaudin would have had 25%. I think AJ would have had 60% win probability against Pedro, and I think Andy has only a 30% win probability. I never wrote those down because i knew they would draw ridicule

Finally the arguments tht it all gets a little bit too cute is interesting - I live in the UK and I and colleagues bet a lot on betting exchanges and the one thng we really look for and make money on is misunderstood chains of probabilities. For instance right now the Phillies (on Betfair) is 59% on to win tonight but only 12:1 to win it all. If they win tonight it is highly likely that punters will begin to doubt the Yankees and the odds will tighten a lot more than to 7.1:1. There is a fair bit of money to be made on such things - mostly in soccer where fans bet a lot more on Betfair than they do on baseball where it is mostly gamblers who work the odds better than soccer fans. I do these things mostly for fun but i do know people who arbitrage the betting market for  living</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too late so i guess no one will read it, but for my own sake i&#8217;ll write down my thoughts</p>
<p>There are to things that are quite funny about all of this</p>
<p>1) Underling argument was that people are too shortsighted and don&#8217;t look to the what if scenario. In fact most people to begin with was so quick to jump the gun that they didn&#8217;t actually read what i had written. Ironic to say the least</p>
<p>2) What is also ironic is that the probabilities that everyone jumped at was not chosen as something i myself believed in but actaully watered down versions of my own instinct. For the record -I think AJ has 45% win probability tonight. I think Gaudin would have had 25%. I think AJ would have had 60% win probability against Pedro, and I think Andy has only a 30% win probability. I never wrote those down because i knew they would draw ridicule</p>
<p>Finally the arguments tht it all gets a little bit too cute is interesting &#8211; I live in the UK and I and colleagues bet a lot on betting exchanges and the one thng we really look for and make money on is misunderstood chains of probabilities. For instance right now the Phillies (on Betfair) is 59% on to win tonight but only 12:1 to win it all. If they win tonight it is highly likely that punters will begin to doubt the Yankees and the odds will tighten a lot more than to 7.1:1. There is a fair bit of money to be made on such things &#8211; mostly in soccer where fans bet a lot more on Betfair than they do on baseball where it is mostly gamblers who work the odds better than soccer fans. I do these things mostly for fun but i do know people who arbitrage the betting market for  living</p>
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		<title>By: Mike HC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, it is similar to the principle of &quot;diminishing marginal utility&quot;

You can quantify how much you want to eat a cheeseburger, even though there really is no &quot;quantifiable&quot; number to put on it.   You just kinda make up a number based on a feeling. Then after you eat the first cheeseburger, you still want another cheeseburger (at least I would), but you don&#039;t want it as much as the first time, so you quantify that urge as a lower number than the first cheeseburger.

Here, this is quantifying your own personal feeling on the outcome of a game. 

&quot;I think the Yanks will win tonight,&quot; is just a general statement.  But you can quantify your own opinion by saying &quot;I think the Yanks have a 60% chance of winning tonight.&quot;

I don&#039;t know if that makes any sense, and reading it back I come off as a bit of an annoying douche, but it the best I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, it is similar to the principle of &#8220;diminishing marginal utility&#8221;</p>
<p>You can quantify how much you want to eat a cheeseburger, even though there really is no &#8220;quantifiable&#8221; number to put on it.   You just kinda make up a number based on a feeling. Then after you eat the first cheeseburger, you still want another cheeseburger (at least I would), but you don&#8217;t want it as much as the first time, so you quantify that urge as a lower number than the first cheeseburger.</p>
<p>Here, this is quantifying your own personal feeling on the outcome of a game. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think the Yanks will win tonight,&#8221; is just a general statement.  But you can quantify your own opinion by saying &#8220;I think the Yanks have a 60% chance of winning tonight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that makes any sense, and reading it back I come off as a bit of an annoying douche, but it the best I can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pawlikowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Pawlikowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I still say it&#039;s a misuse of the word quantifying if you&#039;re just making up the inputs. 

And to TLVP, it&#039;s easy to get stuck on the inputs. You made it that way. I get your argument, but our inability to nail down the exact percentages makes it a tough analysis from that POV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I still say it&#8217;s a misuse of the word quantifying if you&#8217;re just making up the inputs. </p>
<p>And to TLVP, it&#8217;s easy to get stuck on the inputs. You made it that way. I get your argument, but our inability to nail down the exact percentages makes it a tough analysis from that POV.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Scott Brosius</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-668989</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost of Scott Brosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shout this line all the time. Complete classic.</description>
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		<title>By: Al from BX</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-668984</link>
		<dc:creator>Al from BX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10. Let&#039;s do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10. Let&#8217;s do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Scott Brosius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost of Scott Brosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can campaign for managerial decisions? We don&#039;t just have to talk about them with our words having no effect? How do I do this? Does Girardi have a comments box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can campaign for managerial decisions? We don&#8217;t just have to talk about them with our words having no effect? How do I do this? Does Girardi have a comments box?</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Scott Brosius</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/fan-confidence-poll-november-2nd-2009-19300/#comment-668980</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost of Scott Brosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one flaw this team has is lack of rotation depth. Obviously in an ideal world we&#039;d like a fairly reliable fourth starter-something we should have next year. It&#039;s a small flaw though, and the best way to compensate for it is by using our stellar 1-2-3 on short rest. We&#039;ve used that strategy to great success so far with CC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one flaw this team has is lack of rotation depth. Obviously in an ideal world we&#8217;d like a fairly reliable fourth starter-something we should have next year. It&#8217;s a small flaw though, and the best way to compensate for it is by using our stellar 1-2-3 on short rest. We&#8217;ve used that strategy to great success so far with CC.</p>
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