Nov
10

Jeter, Teixeira take home Gold Gloves

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Although the Gold Glove award is one of the least objective awards handed out in baseball, it’s still some postseason hardware, and considering the Yanks’ defensive woes in recent years, it’s nice to see some Bombers win. Derek Jeter and Mark Teixeira have both taken home Gold Glove awards today for their respective decisions. Jeter, not known for his defense, some improved range at short this year and now owns four Gold Gloves. This is Teixeira’s third. The rest of the winners and, eventually, the voting results can be found here at MLB.com.

Categories : Asides, Defense

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  1. Bellhop: HEY, AN AWARDS STATUE!, I– oh, it’s a Grammy.
    (throws Grammy off the balcony)
    Bum in Dumpster (OC): Hey, don’t throw your garbage down here!
    (throws Grammy back up onto balcony)

  2. dkidd says:

    what accounts for jeter’s improved defense at age 35? i keep hearing about “positioning”, as if mick kelleher invented the practice. could that be all? was jeter playing hurt the last few years? how much did teixiera impact jeter?

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Because he played back more compared to earlier years?
      That’s all I know.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Oh and I’m going to wait for a comment that will attack the validity of UZR saying it’s flawed because Teix with a below average UZR won the award. I can see it coming.

        • Mister Delaware says:

          Not flawed so much as its incomplete when it comes to 1Bs. A big part of their defense is saving fielding errors and there’s really no way to account for that with currently available defensive metrics.

          (Not to defend or contradict UZR, just stating the gaping flaw when it comes to measuring a single position.)

          • pete says:

            another thing it doesn’t take into account (necessarily) is throwing ability, as far as 1B goes, since it only covers balls hit into play. All that teix’s uzr says is he gets to fewer batted balls than the average 1B. It says less about how well he scoops the ball or holds the bag or throws home or to 2B. That said, there are still probably other guys out there who throw and scoop as well as tex and also have better UZRs. Just saying.

      • iYankees says:

        Jeter had employed a training regimen over the offseason too, one that focused on his explosiveness and lateral movement.

      • dkidd says:

        that makes sense. i’m surprised he didn’t try it earlier. his arm is strong enough

    • CountryClub says:

      It’s been written about numerous times. Jeter started working with a new trainer over the past 2 off seasons. The goal was to improve his lateral movement and his first step going to his left. His D improved in 2008 and improved more in 2009.

      It wasnt a one year, out of nowhere type of thing.

    • Doug says:

      apparently he did a lot of work in the offseason to improve his range, especially to his left. new workout regimen.

  3. The Angels’ Torii Hunter, no upset, received another Gold Glove. That’s nine straight for “Spiderman,” who kept climbing walls — when not crashing into them. One such collision, in fact, resulted in an injury that cost him a month in the heart of the season, but he still drove in 90 runs, with 22 homers. If you add the number of homers he took away, he might have led the league.

    That’s a lovely paragraph… about offense.

    Torii Hunter, 2009 CF UZR: -1.4
    Franklin Gutierrez, 2009 CF UZR: +29.1

  4. The Honorable Congressman Mondesi says:

    Looks like Andrus should have won, per UZR. Jeter’s not a terrible choice though, he has to be in the top 2 or 3 this season in the AL.

  5. Tom Zig says:

    Jeter is cleaning house with the awards this year.

  6. Riddering says:

    This is probably the closest Jeter has come to deserving the GG he received, right?

  7. Salty Buggah says:

    I’m happy that Jeter and Tex received the GGs, even though they didn’t really deserve them.

  8. Moshe Mandel says:

    Honestly, the system of voting is so flawed as to make this meaningless. All I care about is that Jeter finishes 2nd in MVP voting.

  9. Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

    I hate that 2 CF won gold gloves. Why can’t there be a winner from LF, a winner from CF and a winner from RF?

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      Because they are only in the corners because they can’t play CF. They should give it to 3 CF’ers, although maybe a RF’er with a killer arm can be justified.

      • Bo says:

        We get it but arent they positions??

        Its important. They should have a winner and not just 3 CF’s.

        It takes dif skills to play them. Its not at all speed and jumps.

        • Moshe Mandel says:

          I’m fine with Ichiro winning. I think a standout at those positions can win, but I wouldn’t force them to vote for all 3 positions. I think OF is pretty interchangeable, and a decent CF can move over, but not vice versa.

  10. Free Mike Vick says:

    But…but….UZR….

    TEX ranked 7th in UZR amoung 1st basemen that qualified…obviously he didn’t deserve such an award

  11. Salty Buggah says:

    Is the GG for pitchers basically chosen randomly out of a hat?

  12. steve s says:

    Jeter has been jobbed out of other awards he has deserved so getting one that is not crystal clear that he deserved is just karma giving him a pat on the back.

  13. Moshe Mandel says:

    From Pete Abe in a DM to me:

    “But I’m guessing they saw a lot more games than any of us did.”

    Really? These coaches see their own team, and get skewed by a few plays.

  14. Free Mike Vick says:

    I’m not going to lie to ya.

    Voters bitch slapping UZR brings a smile to my face.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      Yup. People who would never use UZR giving out an award that ignores UZR invalidates UZR. That makes plenty of sense. But I’m glad you are happy with this scientific method:

      “They’d pretty much blurt out the name of a guy that they remembered as making some good plays against them (often asking a fellow coach what he thought, and coming to a consensus opinion that way), or pick the player that had the reputation as being the best at his position, even if that reputation was no longer deserved.”

      Yup, that’s the way to get some accuracy.

  15. JackISBACK says:

    Well UZR/150 doesn’t really meassure the value of a 1B, like it does for other positions. For 1B, I think ERROR Runs Above Average is a more important stat as it shows more about how they handle throws or not IMO.

    Tex had a better year than Youk, there, but Morneau had a better UZR/150 and Error score, so he probably deserved it the most, although him missing time at the end of the year might have hurt him I guess in the eyes of the writers.

    For SS, I think Izturis deserved it more than anyone, although Jeter was close. Izturis had the higher UZR/150 and had a positive error score as well. Andrus had a lower UZR score, but also had a negative Error score, while Jeter had the second highest behind Aybar (who had a lower UZR than Jeter).

    So if we were going by metrics, I’d say Morneau and Izturis were the ones that deserved it, albeit, Izturis didn’t play as many games, but atleast these were close enough that there shouldn’t be THAT much of an outrage.

  16. pat says:

    There is a possibility our 1b 2b SS and 3b could all win Silver Sluggers… giggity.

  17. Joe D. says:

    Dammit, why can’t they squeeze out a Gold Glove for Jorge. I mean, he obviously doesn’t “deserve” one, but that doesn’t seem to be part of the equation anyway. Just a little Gold Glove to say, “Ya know Jorge, you’ve hit like a solid first baseman for over a decade now, have a gold glove.”

    Jackasses.

  18. king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

    look, all i can say is this:

    Arod, arguably (no, not arguably, factually WAS) the best shortstop in baseball, can’t even win a gold glove at third.

    DEFINITIVE CONCRETE PROOF that the Yankees would be better off without him (think chone figgins) and will never win a title with that albatross of a contract around their colletive neck.

    wait, what?

  19. Kyle McCauley says:

    i think Robby Cano deserved a gold glove over Polanco, but its great for Tex and Jeter to win.

    • DonnieBaseballHallofFame says:

      I think Robbie deserved a kick in the ass 4 times a day for never busting it out of the box, and for throwing away at bats by not using his head.

      If you bat 7th or 8th and hit .320, you need to start asking what you are doing right and what your are doing wrong because you are doing a lot of both.

  20. DonnieBaseballHallofFame says:

    I really do not think Hunter is that great of a OF. Never did. While Tex is good, he is not as good as everybody is making him out to be. The first two or three weeks of the year he looked “scared and nervous” copyright Slick Rick aka MC Rickey Dee.

    If you put anybody out there with a cereal box for a glove they would look great to Yanks fans, who have seen nobody passable there for a hot min outside of the games Dougie M got into a couple or few years back.

    I do not like Tex’s body type for a 1st baseman or any non DH, but I do like that he is tall, and knows how the position is suppose to be played. He did a fine job there this year and I hope he will for the length of his contract.

    • Wilcymoore27 says:

      Teixeira’s fielding in the ALDS was so good I didn’t even mind the fact that he was hardly hitting. Granted we’re a little spoiled now that someone has replaced Jason Giambi at first, but I did not see anyone play first base this season as well as Mark Teixeira.

  21. Wilcymoore27 says:

    It never ceases to amaze me that people are willing to put so much credence in a subjective fielding formula like UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating), developed by one guy, Mitchel Lichtman.

    I don’t deny that there is some benefit to trying to rate a fielder’s range and factor that into his overall defensive performance. But like all defensive statistical measurements, UZR is highly subjective and therefore subject to many caveats and qualifications. (Fielding percentage is also very subjective, since it’s based on “errors,” a wildly subjective statistic if you pay attention to what some official scorers won’t call an error.)

    This overblown UZR formula has led otherwise sensible people to actually suggest Derek Jeter is a poor fielder, since before this year he’s had a relatively low UZR rating.

    How about just watching the player play? Every judgment on a fielder’s performance is somewhat subjective (well, except maybe for judgments about Jason Giambi). But I think Jeter is still an excellent defensive shortstop. Jeter rarely drops the balls he gets to, he throws accurately (and has gotten more accurate over time), and he’s a superb decision maker. And his range is a lot better than he’s given credit for in some circles.

    While I might not see every game played by every shortstop in the American League, Jeter looks pretty damned deserving of the Gold Glove award from what I’ve seen. But don’t take my word for it. The Gold Glove is awarded by the votes of each league’s managers and coaches. The guys in the dugouts get to see everyone play, multiple times. I think they should have a pretty good idea who the best fielder is at each position.

    And that’s without looking up the player’s “UZR.”

    • As we’ve said numerous times, most of us who have MLB.tv accounts/Extra Innings and cable probably watch more games than the coaches and managers. Therefore, based on your logic, we should have a “pretty good idea” who the best fielder is at each position. Hint: It’s not most of the people who won Gold Glove awards today.

      And that’s without looking up the player’s “UZR.”

      It’s clear that managers and coaches vote on reputation and not anything approaching reality.

  22. violeta says:

    hello arrib los yankees teixeira es super lindo ganadores yankes 2009

  23. Sleepy Carl says:

    I love the Halosheaven guys saying how great Torii was and deserved it over FG, but Jeter didn’t deserve to get a GG.

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