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	<title>Comments on: Jeter, Teixeira take home Gold Gloves</title>
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		<title>By: Sleepy Carl</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/jeter-teixeira-take-home-gold-gloves-19793/#comment-683543</link>
		<dc:creator>Sleepy Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Halosheaven guys saying how great Torii was and deserved it over FG, but Jeter didn&#039;t deserve to get a GG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Halosheaven guys saying how great Torii was and deserved it over FG, but Jeter didn&#8217;t deserve to get a GG.</p>
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		<title>By: violeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>violeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello arrib los yankees teixeira es super lindo ganadores yankes 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello arrib los yankees teixeira es super lindo ganadores yankes 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we&#039;ve said numerous times, most of us who have MLB.tv accounts/Extra Innings and cable probably watch more games than the coaches and managers. Therefore, based on your logic, we should have a &quot;pretty good idea&quot; who the best fielder is at each position. Hint: It&#039;s not most of the people who won Gold Glove awards today.

And that&#039;s without looking up the player&#039;s &quot;UZR.&quot;

It&#039;s clear that managers and coaches vote on reputation and not anything approaching reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we&#8217;ve said numerous times, most of us who have MLB.tv accounts/Extra Innings and cable probably watch more games than the coaches and managers. Therefore, based on your logic, we should have a &#8220;pretty good idea&#8221; who the best fielder is at each position. Hint: It&#8217;s not most of the people who won Gold Glove awards today.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s without looking up the player&#8217;s &#8220;UZR.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that managers and coaches vote on reputation and not anything approaching reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilcymoore27</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilcymoore27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teixeira&#039;s fielding in the ALDS was so good I didn&#039;t even mind the fact that he was hardly hitting.  Granted we&#039;re a little spoiled now that someone has replaced Jason Giambi at first, but I did not see anyone play first base this season as well as Mark Teixeira.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teixeira&#8217;s fielding in the ALDS was so good I didn&#8217;t even mind the fact that he was hardly hitting.  Granted we&#8217;re a little spoiled now that someone has replaced Jason Giambi at first, but I did not see anyone play first base this season as well as Mark Teixeira.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilcymoore27</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilcymoore27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never ceases to amaze me that people are willing to put so much credence in a subjective fielding formula like UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating), developed by one guy, Mitchel Lichtman.

I don&#039;t deny that there is some benefit to trying to rate a fielder&#039;s range and factor that into his overall defensive performance.  But like all defensive statistical measurements, UZR is highly subjective and therefore subject to many caveats and qualifications.  (Fielding percentage is also very subjective, since it&#039;s based on &quot;errors,&quot; a wildly subjective statistic if you pay attention to what some official scorers won&#039;t call an error.)

This overblown UZR formula has led otherwise sensible people to actually suggest Derek Jeter is a poor fielder, since before this year he&#039;s had a relatively low UZR rating.

How about just watching the player play?  Every judgment on a fielder&#039;s performance is somewhat subjective (well, except maybe for judgments about Jason Giambi).  But I think Jeter is still an excellent defensive shortstop.  Jeter rarely drops the balls he gets to, he throws accurately (and has gotten more accurate over time), and he&#039;s a superb decision maker.  And his range is a lot better than he&#039;s given credit for in some circles.

While I might not see every game played by every shortstop in the American League, Jeter looks pretty damned deserving of the Gold Glove award from what I&#039;ve seen.  But don&#039;t take my word for it.  The Gold Glove is awarded by the votes of each league&#039;s managers and coaches.  The guys in the dugouts get to see everyone play, multiple times.  I think they should have a pretty good idea who the best fielder is at each position.

And that&#039;s without looking up the player&#039;s &quot;UZR.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to amaze me that people are willing to put so much credence in a subjective fielding formula like UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating), developed by one guy, Mitchel Lichtman.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t deny that there is some benefit to trying to rate a fielder&#8217;s range and factor that into his overall defensive performance.  But like all defensive statistical measurements, UZR is highly subjective and therefore subject to many caveats and qualifications.  (Fielding percentage is also very subjective, since it&#8217;s based on &#8220;errors,&#8221; a wildly subjective statistic if you pay attention to what some official scorers won&#8217;t call an error.)</p>
<p>This overblown UZR formula has led otherwise sensible people to actually suggest Derek Jeter is a poor fielder, since before this year he&#8217;s had a relatively low UZR rating.</p>
<p>How about just watching the player play?  Every judgment on a fielder&#8217;s performance is somewhat subjective (well, except maybe for judgments about Jason Giambi).  But I think Jeter is still an excellent defensive shortstop.  Jeter rarely drops the balls he gets to, he throws accurately (and has gotten more accurate over time), and he&#8217;s a superb decision maker.  And his range is a lot better than he&#8217;s given credit for in some circles.</p>
<p>While I might not see every game played by every shortstop in the American League, Jeter looks pretty damned deserving of the Gold Glove award from what I&#8217;ve seen.  But don&#8217;t take my word for it.  The Gold Glove is awarded by the votes of each league&#8217;s managers and coaches.  The guys in the dugouts get to see everyone play, multiple times.  I think they should have a pretty good idea who the best fielder is at each position.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s without looking up the player&#8217;s &#8220;UZR.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DonnieBaseballHallofFame</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonnieBaseballHallofFame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Robbie deserved a kick in the ass 4 times a day for never busting it out of the box, and for throwing away at bats by not using his head.

If you bat 7th or 8th and hit .320, you need to start asking what you are doing right and what your are doing wrong because you are doing a lot of both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Robbie deserved a kick in the ass 4 times a day for never busting it out of the box, and for throwing away at bats by not using his head.</p>
<p>If you bat 7th or 8th and hit .320, you need to start asking what you are doing right and what your are doing wrong because you are doing a lot of both.</p>
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		<title>By: DonnieBaseballHallofFame</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonnieBaseballHallofFame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do not think Hunter is that great of a OF.  Never did.  While Tex is good, he is not as good as everybody is making him out to be.  The first two or three weeks of the year he looked &quot;scared and nervous&quot; copyright Slick Rick aka MC Rickey Dee.

If you put anybody out there with a cereal box for a glove they would look great to Yanks fans, who have seen nobody passable there for a hot min outside of the games Dougie M got into a couple or few years back.

I do not like Tex&#039;s body type for a 1st baseman or any non DH, but I do like that he is tall, and knows how the position is suppose to be played.  He did a fine job there this year and I hope he will for the length of his contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do not think Hunter is that great of a OF.  Never did.  While Tex is good, he is not as good as everybody is making him out to be.  The first two or three weeks of the year he looked &#8220;scared and nervous&#8221; copyright Slick Rick aka MC Rickey Dee.</p>
<p>If you put anybody out there with a cereal box for a glove they would look great to Yanks fans, who have seen nobody passable there for a hot min outside of the games Dougie M got into a couple or few years back.</p>
<p>I do not like Tex&#8217;s body type for a 1st baseman or any non DH, but I do like that he is tall, and knows how the position is suppose to be played.  He did a fine job there this year and I hope he will for the length of his contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McCauley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle McCauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think Robby Cano deserved a gold glove over Polanco, but its great for Tex and Jeter to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think Robby Cano deserved a gold glove over Polanco, but its great for Tex and Jeter to win.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youkilis is one of if not the best 1B i&#039;ve seen (of people who can actually hit well enough to start) at getting to balls, and his throwing is pretty solid as well (though tex is better). I watched him a lot this year, though, and he wasn&#039;t the vacuum that tex was when it came to fielding throws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youkilis is one of if not the best 1B i&#8217;ve seen (of people who can actually hit well enough to start) at getting to balls, and his throwing is pretty solid as well (though tex is better). I watched him a lot this year, though, and he wasn&#8217;t the vacuum that tex was when it came to fielding throws.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another thing it doesn&#039;t take into account (necessarily) is throwing ability, as far as 1B goes, since it only covers balls hit into play. All that teix&#039;s uzr says is he gets to fewer batted balls than the average 1B. It says less about how well he scoops the ball or holds the bag or throws home or to 2B. That said, there are still probably other guys out there who throw and scoop as well as tex and also have better UZRs. Just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thing it doesn&#8217;t take into account (necessarily) is throwing ability, as far as 1B goes, since it only covers balls hit into play. All that teix&#8217;s uzr says is he gets to fewer batted balls than the average 1B. It says less about how well he scoops the ball or holds the bag or throws home or to 2B. That said, there are still probably other guys out there who throw and scoop as well as tex and also have better UZRs. Just saying.</p>
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