Nov
30

Open Thread: Indianapolis in the middle of winter?

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Last year, RAB was excited to attend its first Winter Meetings. Not only is it the biggest off-season event in baseball, but it was also in Las Vegas. That meant plenty of off-hours entertainment. It didn’t work out too well for me — I got cleaned out playing Blackjack — but it was still fun to be out there with the people we normally cover from afar.

We’re headed to the Winter Meetings again this year, and by we I mean me. Big thanks to Kevin at YES for hooking this up. We still won’t be breaking any big news — hey, you’ve gotta be in the business for a while to do anything like that. But I’ll be mingling, talking to people who perhaps know things I don’t. Even though the Yanks won’t be the center of attention this year, it still figures to be a good time.

Also, I will try to remember to videotape Ozzie Guillen’s Q&A session, just in case he says something memorably crazy.

Is there anything you’d like to see from us coverage-wise from out there?

And with that, here’s your open thread for the evening. I assume most will be watching New England – New Orleans. I’ll be hoping that House turns it around. The show has not been up to part this season.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    There you go again, doing this whole legitimate media source thing again…

    • Jack

      Sellouts!

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Seriously. Who do these stat-minded bloggers think they are with all this leaving the basement? Sheesh.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Seriously. I’m not going because I don’t want to put on pants.

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

            Seriously.

    • Brooklyn Ed – slacking in class now

      hmm…totally not my business but was wondering if you dating the Mike Ashmore, the writer of Trenton Thunder?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Over three months.

    • Accent Shallow

      On the one hand, congrats Joe.

      On the other hand, it’s Indianapolis in December, so my condolences.

  • Salty Buggah

    Just got that PS3 I was talking about couple days ago. Brand new one for $150…great deal or greatest deal?

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Sorry, it’s still second to the Swisher deal.

    • Mike Pop

      How the fuck did you get it for 150?

      • Salty Buggah

        My friend got drunk (like REALLY drunk) and for some reason bought an expensive TV that night. He got free PS3 with it but he already one. So, he was going to sell it to me for $200 but I convinced him to give it me for $150. Isn’t that awesome?

        • Salty Buggah

          *already owned one

          • Mike Pop

            Pretty.

            • Salty Buggah

              Yea, now if only I had money to buy some games

    • http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/madamsteph/Sports/alg_melky.jpg Drew

      Damn that’s sick.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    I’m still waiting for my World Series DVD. I hate waiting.

    • Salty Buggah

      Think about it this way: You had to wait 9 years for the chance to order one. So waiting another day or 3 isn’t that bad.

    • steve (different one)

      watched it last night.

      one interesting bit: Swisher says how important it was to his game 3 performance that he sat down for game 2.

      see, we don’t know everything…

  • ultimate913

    Go Saints! They deserve a championship for Katrina(although it’s a few years late).

    On a seperate note, I wont be able to watch the Nets break the record until Wednesday. D:

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        I’m still waiting for a Jeter, Manning, and Shatner commercial. The very best in brandwhoring.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          Reply fail. Dammit, TSJC, if you didn’t link everywhere I wouldn’t look like an idiot right now.

          • Mike Pop

            Don’t worry. You have breasts, exquisite breasts. So you don’t look like an idiot right now.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Final Jeopardy Category:

    Political Nonfiction

    Answer:

    This book begins,
    “June 17, 1972.
    Nine O’Clock, Saturday Morning”

    • Bob Stone

      Question: What is “All the President’s Men”?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        (golf clap)

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      WORLD WAR TWO!!!! DUH

      (All the President’s Men)

  • Bob Stone

    I don’t really care about the Saints or the Patriots (except as a casual, fairweather Jet Fan), so I’m not rooting for either team. Should be a good game though, so I’ll tune in.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      As a casual, fairweather Jet fan, you should be actively rooting for the Saints. Every loss by an AFC playoff contender is good for us.

      We win on the short week against the Bills this Thursday, we’re 6-6 and back in the mix with 4 winnable games left on the slate (hapless Bucs, banged up Falcons, possibly on cruise control Colts, possibly on cruise control Bengals).

      • Bob Stone

        Optimistic, as usual, lol. I think Sanchez has potential but he is difficult to watch at times. From week to week he is showing growing pains. I don’t expect them to amake the playoffs.

        I would normally route for the Pats to knock off the undefeated team but can’t becuase of the Jets.

        So, I am a little confused tonight. I do enjoy watching Belichick lose though. He is so totally ungracious about losing.

        • Bob Stone

          root not route

      • Mike Pop

        True that. Not in the worst position to be in.

        Better position than the other team that plays in the Meadowlands.

        But 10 wins is pretty much what is needed to make the playoffs, right?

        • Nady Nation

          I know the Giants are in total freefall right now, but I don’t see how the Jets are in a better position than the Giants. The Jets are 5-6, and are amongst a group of like 7 teams that are 5-6 or 6-5, all vying for that last playoff spot, with the Broncos currently holding the 5 seed at 7-4. The Giants are 6-5, and play the 2 teams ahead of them in the division standings at home the next 2 weeks. If the Giants win this week, and yes, that’s a big IF, they’d basically be 0.5 games back of the division since they have the tiebreaker with Dallas. As horrendous as they’ve been the past 6 weeks, if the Giants take care of their own business, they’ll make the playoffs. The Jets need to take care of their business and get a lot of help.

          • Mike Pop

            Hmm. Maybe I jumped the gun on that without doing all my research. Been reading a lot of Cowboys blogs lately so ya know how the hate can get drained in. I guess you’re right. I hope Eli plays on Sunday, make for the best game. I’m definitely a bit nervous, i never sleep on the Giants. Always get pumped and play the ‘Boys hard and vice versa.

            It’s funny right when I hate on the Giants a bit, you pop up though ;)

            I’ll be at the game on Sunday with some fellow ‘Boys fans along with GMen fans. Anyone else going?

            • Nady Nation

              Haha, you know I can’t let you rag on Big Blue without getting my retorts in. For the record though, I’m not very confident. Feels way too much like one of those “just not our year” seasons.

              • Mike Pop

                Meh. Anything can happen. Especially between Big D and Big Blue.

                As for this season for you guys. It happens to every team. What can ya do. Your past two seasons have been pretty epic.

                It should be fun at the Meadowlands. Get shit on by all the fans again. Looking forward to that and not looking forward to it. Haha.

                • Nady Nation

                  I hear ya dude. There are always a shitload of Cowboy fans at the Meadowlands though (unfortunately).

          • Ivan

            That game between the Eagles and Giants at the Meadowlands is gonna be huge.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yeah, but:

              -The Giants may not have their QB
              -The Eagles may not have anyone but their QB

      • Ivan

        I stll think it’s the Pats division to lose.

        If the Colts lose before meeting the jets, then yeah I’ll say cruise control, but if their still undefeated, they might still have their foot on the gas.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Yeah, I don’t think we’ll catch them for the division. Best case scenario we tie the Pats, but we don’t own any of the tiebreakers.

          Wild card is still very much in play, though. 5-6 is crappy, but BUF-TB-ATL means we can be 8-6 in a heartbeat.

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    That’s very, very awesome news. You’re a big roller now, Joe! As for coverage…damn, just share everything you experience with us.

    +1 for photo choice

  • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

    I can’t believe I’m rooting for the Patriots. My fantasy team needs it–desperately.

  • Mike Pop

    I got Pats 34-27 this game.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    The reasons bloggers will never be respected

    http://www.yankeesdaily.com/?p=11099

    • Bob Stone

      Just incredible in this day and age. It proves the point that one can be totally ignorant and still be a blogger.

    • Salty Buggah

      Whoa…

      The thought behind the post is good but I think was poorly executed.

      • Bob Stone

        The thought behind the post is that a blatant, ignorant racist learns via Derek Jeter’s handling of his career that people aren’t bad just because they’re black. There are other factors at play. WOW – What a great learning experience!

        I am glad that the blogger has learned some of the errors of his ways, but there are still tones of ignorant racism in the article.

        • Salty Buggah

          Yea that’s true. But his intentions are still somewhat good

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Flames, flames on the side of my face!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      That has to be satire. Has to be.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Sure, he’s white but he’s also black. I wondered how a man like this can be so grounded because he had a black father. I’ve heard from Reverand Al Sharpton that black men don’t stay with the mother of their child. Whether that is true or not, Jeter’s father did.

      R-E-V-E-R-E-N-D

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I read a few of Sean S.’s other posts.

      Not only is he a terriost, he’s also a big New Moon fan.

      I’m going out with my father in a few minutes to see New Moon at the theaters even though I saw it already on my computer but it wasn’t the greatest viewing experience. I want to see it on the big screen.

      http://www.yankeesdaily.com/?p=11078

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        I don’t want to live in a world where a father and son go to see New Moon.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I take it that you’re Team Edward and not Team Jacob.

          (Personally, I’m team Breasts.)

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            I’m Team Longer Than a Teacup

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              I’m drawing a blank on that reference. Little help?

              • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering
                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Danke schoen.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  In Grady’s defense, that was a coffee mug, not a teacup. But, whatevs.

                  ———-

                  “Welcome to the club, buddy. The Big Penis Club.”

                  /Chappelle’d

                • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                  “Patriots on top–no, wait, we’re receiving a report here. The Pats are…losing?

                  “Ladies and gentlemen, I’m not sure if we can believe this new piece of information. We’ll keep you updated.”

                • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                  Okay, now RAB is just fucking with me.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              Is that a shot at Grady?

              • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                Only a little. In all honesty, his body makes me want to go for a jog rather than poke fun.

    • http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/madamsteph/Sports/alg_melky.jpg Drew

      Wow.

  • VO

    What channel (if any) is the Nets game going to be on tonight?

    • ultimate913

      They don’t play today or tomorrow. They play on Wednesday against the Mavericks. I can’t wait!

      • Mike Pop

        A nice lil’ J-Kidd reunion.

      • VO

        I could have sworn I heard someone say that they play today on sportscenter. Got my hopes up for some history.

  • Salty Buggah

    Hah, the lady who supposedly had an affair with Tiger, apparently also did with Jeter and A-Rod (though this according to sources even though she herself denies everything)

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20323278,00.html

    I say this is all bullshit

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I say this is all bullshit “who cares?”

      Fixed that for you.

      • Bob Stone

        Good fix.

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, you’re right.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Well, if she has personal photos of Jeter and A-Rod that could be stolen off her computer, I care.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        +1

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I say this is all bullshit “who cares?”

        http://www.tmz.com/

  • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

    Well, this is an upgrade from Saturday. The Rangers aren’t getting blown away yet.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      You’re still missing the larger point.

      The Devils are better.

      • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

        For now.

        How about coming up with an original chant? Let’s Go Band (Potvin Sucks) is ours. Even the Islanders have the chicken dance.

        Devils fans are just unoriginal.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

          Yeah, but we’re also the second most successful franchise in the NHL since 1994-1995 (only Detroit has us beat).

          So I’ll deal with the unoriginality and take the wins

          • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

            Lou Lamariello will do that for you.

            I mean, monkeys have been running the Rangers since 1997.

        • Mike Pop

          Wooo! Go Isles.

          Tavares is pretty awesome, no?

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Anyone buying that the Sox are going to get Holliday and get Scutaro while still having a first round pick by passing on Bay?

    • Teix is the Man

      Yeah, I could see that.

    • Mike Pop

      Unfortunately, yes.

    • feasor

      The Sox certainly have the cash to do it. If they can’t win this past year with their “A” team, I don’t see how they don’t make a big move. What else, other than the larger role of Buckholtz and return of Dice-K, suggests that next year’s team will perform any better? I think Theo has to make a big move or the fundamental flaws of his system reveal themselves.

  • Nady Nation

    I moneylined the Pats tonight, along with a Moss (-3.5 fantasy points) over Colston wager. Yes, I might have a gambling problem.

  • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

    Wow. Keith Ballard swung his stick in frustration, missed the post and sent Tomas Vokun (his own goalie) to the hospital.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      http://tinyurl.com/yeye5oy

      Video, for those interested.

      • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

        And Ovechkin missed his check and blew out his knee. Two odd plays in a row.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Did he blow it out? They can’t tell that quickly, can they?

          • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

            It looks like he did. He couldn’t put any weight on it.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      O_O;;; Dayum That’s what Haggerty was tweeting about…

    • JGS

      I think the craziest part about that is he smashes the stick against the goal again after whacking the goalie

      • Bob Stone

        I saw that too. The guy was totally out of control.

  • Teix is the Man

    Trade one, keep one, release one: Hughes, Joba, Montero

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      Secret answer D, none of the above.

      But if I had too I keep Jesus, trade Joba and release Hughes.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        You like helping out the rest of the league, don’t you? This is exactly how we built the 1980s teams that went nowhere, but helped the Cards win a WS and Pirates make the playoffs.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I choose the Kobayashi Maru.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Ha ICWUDT.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Is this a variation on marry, kill, fuck?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Should we play that one instead?

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          OK.

          Elin Nordegren, Rachel Uchitel and Riddering.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Fuck: Rachel Uchitel
            Marry: Riddering (because she’s hotter than Uchitel, but she’s smarter/funnier/less headache inducing, so you can spend time with her OUTSIDE the bedroom as well)
            Kill: Elin Nordegren (she’s got a temper, yo)

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Chronologically speaking, that game should DEFINITELY be fuck, marry, kill.

        Well, you can quibble over the first two, but kill should most certainly be last. Anything else, and you’re in JMK/pat territory.

        • Teix is the Man

          HAHA, very funny, guys

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Nah, I always try to end on a happy note. That’s just me.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              See, now that’s just wrong. Incredibly funny, but wrong.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Champ here!

                I’m all about havin’ fun. You know, get a couple cocktails in me, start a fire in someone’s kitchen. Maybe go to SeaWorld, take my pants off.

                Anyway, I kinda known for my catch phrase.. WHAMMY! As in:

                “Gene Tenace at the plate… iiittt WHAMMY!

        • pat

          Kill first and the next 2 steps are easy peezy.

  • Arod the Great

    Why is everyone assuming BoSox offer arb to wagner…? What if he says that it be better to be on a good team and set up then close on a shit team and he made 8 mil or more I think last year…?

    Why would Boston risk the arbitration?

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      Because he probably wants to close. So offering arbitration is smart.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Yeah, I see your argument (take the guaranteed money while it’s there), but I think Wagner is a mortal lock to decline arb and go hit the market for a closer’s deal.

      Even if he only takes a one-year deal for less than 8M from someone else, he needs to reestablish his market value to shoot for one final big multi-year deal before he’s too old.

      Time’s a wasting.

      • Spaceman.Spiff

        He’s already too old. He’ll be 39 by next offseason, doubt he gets a big multi-year deal unless he injects himself with pure Riverium.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Hmmmm… where would I get some of this “Riverium”?

          Sincerely,
          Billy Wagner (and every other athlete ever)

  • Ivan

    Which is more likly to happen first in baseball,

    A team finishing the season a 100 games over .500 or a team finishing the season 100 games under.500?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Under. Definitley under.

    • JGS

      neither. 131-31 just isn’t ever happening

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        +1

        Neither is 31-131. A AAA affiliate would win 40 games just on defense and dumb luck.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
    • Bob Stone

      Duh – It’s mathematically impossible – 162 – 0 is still less than 100 games over 81 – 81.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        That’s not how “X games over .500″ works.

        You don’t have to be 100 games over 81-81. You just have to have 100 more wins than losses.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Furthermore, 162-0 is MORE than 100 games over 81-81.

          If you went 162-0, and then lost your next 100 games, you’d be 162-100. That’s better than 81-81, by 62 games.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Arbitration Offer Predictions For Free Agents
    By Tim Dierkes

    On October 12th, I explained what it means when a free agent is offered arbitration and also made a few loose predictions. Tomorrow evening, those arbitration decisions will be upon us. As far as I can tell, there are 70 Type A/B free agents. It’s time to commit to predictions on whether or not the player will be offered arbitration. Let me know where I’m wrong in the comments.

    * Johnny Damon (A) – No
    * Andy Pettitte (B) – No
    * Xavier Nady (B) – No

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html

    We covered this before, I don’t see the downside in offering arb to Damon. Yanks want him back on a 1 year deal anyway.

    Nady is a no-brainer to NOT offer, arb would be far more than he’d get on the open market. You’d be better off not offering him arb and signing him as a FA.

    Andy is trickier. You want him back on a 1 year deal, and you’re willing to guarantee more $ this year. The only reason you’d offer is to cover your ass just in case he runs off to Texas again. IIRC we DIDN’T offer it to Roger Clemens, thinking he retired and got burned.

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      Yes, but he’ll get a raise to, like, $15M. That’s a problem.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Some of the plethora of fun and exciting events in Indianapolis, IN during the Winter Meetings:

    ———–

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:00 AM. ‘The Winter Weasel’ at the Indiana State Museum. When winter arrives, we bundle up in coats, scarves, hats and mittens. The long-tailed weasel changes its coat, too. Discover how these fascinating creatures dress for winter. Nov. 13 to Dec. 18. Info: See Web site or call 317-232-1637. Indiana State Museum, 650 West Washington Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.indianamuseum.org [Ref #378463] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:00 AM. Gingerbread Village at Conner Prairie. A wonderland of icing, gumdrops and sprinkles atop remarkable gingerbread creations. Dec. 1, 2009 to Jan. 3, 2010: Tue-Sat 10-5 (except Dec. 24-25), Sun 11-5. Info: See Web site or call 317-776-6006. Conner Prairie Interactive History Park, 13400 Allisonville Road, Fishers, Hamilton County. http://www.connerprairie.org [Ref #375841] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:00 AM. ‘Star Wars: The Clone Wars’ Exhibit at the Children’s Museum. A visual exhibition with artwork, costumes and other pieces used in the first-ever animated TV series by LucasFilm Animation. Mar. 23, 2009 to Jan. 31, 2010: Tue-Sun 10-5 (plus Mon 10-5, Mar to Sep). Info: 317-334-3322. Children’s Museum, 3000 North Meridian Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.childrensmuseum.org [Ref #348565] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:00 AM. ‘From Bustles to Ballots’ Exhibit at the President Benjamin Harrison Home. An ongoing exhibit in the Carriage House featuring a display of the First Ladies from Martha Washington to Michelle Obama. Open Mon-Sat, 10 AM to 3:30 PM (plus Sun, 12:30-3:30 PM in June and July). Info: See Web site below or call 317-631-1888. President Benjamin Harrison Home, 1230 North Delaware Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.pbhh.org/Collections/Suffrage.php [Ref #358764] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:00 AM. Jolly Days Winter Wonderland at the Children’s Museum. Bring the holidays to life in the new and improved magical wonderland. Yule Slide, visit Jingles and his friends, go ice fishing, get a photo with Santa, and more. Nov. 27 to Jan. 10: Tue-Sun, 10-5 (closed Dec. 25). Info: 317-334-3322. Children’s Museum of Indianapolis, 3000 North Meridian Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.childrensmuseum.org/jollydays/index.php [Ref #380169] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:30 AM. Gingerbread Land at The Play Connection. Ride the trains thru a snow covered holiday world, gingerbread station, join Santa’s mouse, holiday puppets, make an ornament, make a play about the first Santa. Dec 8-23: Tue-Thu, 10:30 AM to 2:30 PM, plus Dec. 19, 6-9 PM. Info: 317-918-4359. The Play Connection, 9221 Crawfordsville Road, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.theplayconnection.com [Ref #379191] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:00 AM. Festival of Trees at Lanthier Winery in Madison. One of the nation’s largest holiday displays with more than 75 trees fully decorated for the holiday season. Nov. 27 to Dec. 23: Wed-Sun, 11-5. Info: See Web site below or call 812-273-2409. Lanthier Winery, 123 Mill Street, Madison, Jefferson County. http://www.lanthierwinery.com [Ref #330911] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:00 AM. ‘Eighteenth-Century Furniture Design’ Exhibit at the Indianapolis Museum of Art. 30+ 18th-century prints of furniture design from France, Germany and especially England and related pieces of furniture. May 23 to Feb. 21, 2010 during regular hours. Info: See Web site or call 317-923-1331. Indianapolis Museum of Art, 4000 Michigan Road, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.imamuseum.org [Ref #364410] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:30 AM. Public Ice Skating Session at the Indiana World Skating Academy. Nov. 30, 2009 to Jan. 31, 2010: Mon-Fri 11:30 AM to 1:30 PM; Fri 8-10 PM and 10:30 PM to 12 AM; Sat 1:30-3:30, 4-6, 8-10 PM and 10:30 PM-12 AM; Sun 1:30-3:30 and 4-6 PM. Skate rental and group rates available. Info: 317-237-5555. Indiana World Skating Academy, 201 South Capitol Avenue, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.iwsa.org [Ref #379795] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:00 PM. ‘A Beef and Boards Christmas’ at Beef and Boards Dinner Theatre. Songs, holiday greetings, and a visit from Santa himself in a glittering variety show format. Nov. 27 to Dec. 31: Show times vary by performance date. Info: See Web site below or call 317-872-9664. Beef and Boards Dinner Theatre, 9301 Michigan Road, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.beefandboards.com [Ref #380124] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:00 PM. ‘Christmas at the Zoo’ at the Indianapolis Zoo. Dec. 4-30 (closed Dec. 24-25): 5-9 PM. Zoo opens at noon with regular zoo activities, then the full Christmas at the Zoo activities begin at 5 PM, highlighted by the huge light show. Info: See Web site below or call 317-630-2001. Indianapolis Zoo, 1200 West Washington Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.indyzoo.com [Ref #380452] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:00 PM. The Buzzkills Live at the Rathskeller Restaurant. 6-9 PM. Featuring a live music performance at this popular downtown restaurant. Live music Thu-Sat in December (plus Wed, Dec. 23; not Dec. 24-25). Info: See Web site below or call 317-636-0396. Rathskeller Restaurant, 401 East Michigan Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.rathskeller.com [Ref #376492] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:00 PM. Brian Culbertson in Concert at the Murat Theatre. Featuring the popular smooth jazz keyboardist and trombonist. Tickets: Murat Box Office or Ticketmaster. Info: See Web site below or call 317-231-0000. Murat Theatre, 502 North New Jersey Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.murat.com [Ref #381317] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:00 PM. ‘A Very Phoenix Xmas 4: Our Stockings Are Stuffed’ at the Phoenix Theatre. Nothing and no one is sacred in this grab bag of theatrical vaudeville and TV variety show with all the irreverence of Monty Python. Nov. 27 to Dec. 20: Thu at 7 PM, Fri/Sat at 8 PM, Sun at 2 PM. Info: See Web site or call 317-635-7529. Phoenix Theatre, 749 North Park Avenue, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.phoenixtheatre.org [Ref #378295] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:00 PM. College Women’s Basketball at Ball State University. Wisconsin-Green Bay v. Ball State. Info: See Web site below or call 765-285-1474. Ball State University, Worthen Arena, Muncie, Delaware County. http://www.ballstatesports.com [Ref #376447] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:30 PM. ‘Cirque Dreams Illumination’ at Emens Auditorium in Muncie. A magical metropolis with urban acrobatics and never before seen phenomenal thrills of disbelief. Tickets: Venue Box Office. Info: See Web site below or call 765-285-1539. Emens Auditorium, Ball State University, Muncie, Delaware County. http://www.bsu.edu/emens [Ref #366500] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 7:30 PM. Varsity Boy’s Basketball at Warren Central High School. Fishers at Warren Central. Info: See Web site below or call 317-532-6233. Warren Central High School, 9500 East 16th Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. wchs.warren.k12.in.us/ [Ref #381530] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:30 PM. Live Comedy at Crackers Comedy Club Downtown. Live comedy Wed-Sat: Wed-Thu at 8:30 PM, Fri/Sat at 8 and 10:30 PM. Scheduled to appear: See Web site below; verify with venue. Info: 317-631-3536. Crackers Comedy Club Downtown, 247 South Meridian Street, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.crackerscomedy.com [Ref #341394] | Remind Me

    * Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:00 PM. Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Vogue Nightclub. Live performance, seated and standing. Doors at 8 PM, show at 9 PM. No smoking show. $10 at the door. Info: See Web site below or call 317-259-7029. Vogue Nightclub, 6259 North College Avenue, Indianapolis, Marion County. http://www.thevogue.ws [Ref #383073] | Remind Me

    ———–

    AND.
    THAT’S.
    JUST.
    THURSDAY.

    http://www.aroundindy.com/date.....e=20091210

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Or.

      Or.

      Or.

      I could just drink my face off. Yeah, I’m gonna do that.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Did that not fit in the Twitter feed? Holy scroll.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Angels vote full playoff share to Adenhart estate

    The Los Angeles Angels voted to give a full postseason share to the estate of Nick Adenhart, the rookie pitcher killed in April in a car accident allegedly caused by a drunken driver.

    The Angels’ shares were worth $138,039. Los Angeles lost to the New York Yankees in the AL championship series.

    http://host.madison.com/sports.....f4435.html

    Good job. Nice gesture on their part.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      The Yankees aren’t the only players enjoying a rich and lucrative postseason. The Phillies, World Series runners-up, will earn $265,357.50 per full share, and even the chokers get some money. The Red Sox will each earn $28,263.28 for getting swept by Los Angeles. The Angels, in a very classy move, voted to give Nick Adenhart’s family a full playoff share totaling $138,000.

      Sincerely,
      Benjamin Kabak, blogger extraordinare
      Posted on Monday, November 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm in News

      http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....red-20593/

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Son of a bitch. Ripping me off like that.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          You’re gonna have to wake up pretty early in the morning to pull one over on Ben Kabak.

          Who the hell is Jason Hirsh?

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist
            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I wonder if when Chamberlain does make it as an above-average or (probably) better starter, will all those in the media own up and admit they were wrong? Somehow, I doubt it.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                Joba Chamberlain=Sidney Ponson

                http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=18370

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

                  I saw the domain name. Yet I clicked anyway. And nothing surprised me. It just further confirms that Mike Silva does not understand critical thinking. He’s too busy molding evidence to fit his theory.

                  Remind me to smack you for this tomorrow morning.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  So, Mike Silva thinks:

                  A) Joba sucks, and
                  B) Joba can be used to trade for Josh Johnson, straight up.

                  Logic: You’re doing it wrong.

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Quick question: Who do you think will be better, Hughes or Joba?

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Sidney Ponson.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  Um, gut reaction, no thinking, Joba.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  I bet Sidney will make an excellent tour guide in Aruba. Really.

                  In my dreams (not the weird ones…well, really weird ones) Carl Everett and Snacks Pontoon are forced to be best friends living in Aruba, where they run an anti-science Christian travel agency/catering business.

                  Reality TV dream.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Long term, if I could only have one, I’d take Hughes.

                  We’re splitting hairs, though. I think they’ll both be very good starting pitchers.

                  Joba’s stuff is a bit more overpowering, but Hughes has the better build and command, I’d say. He’s been the better pitching savant for longer as well, FWIW.

                • Mike Pop

                  Joba – higher peak

                  Hughes – longer career.

                  Does that make sense?

          • Ivan

            Jason Hirsh use to be the Astros top pitching prospect.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              The joke
              ___________

              Your head

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist
                • Ivan

                  Wow…Baseball Knowledge fail.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Tiger Woods grants you one mulligan. Use it wisely.

                • Ivan

                  LMAOOO…

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Mike’s not big on following the minor leagues.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  The minor leagues are only good for one thing:

                  Creating bullpen pitchers.

                • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

                  And trading away “useless” and overrated prospects to toehr teams that find them valuable.

                  /LannyBoGrantSal’d

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      +1

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Saints fans look like they just left an ICP concert.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      ICP concerts actually exist?

      In a related unrelated story, Wes Welker annoys the living shit out of me.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Yep. I knew a meth addict (long story) who used to follow them around as they toured.

        She didn’t have many teeth, but in fairness to her, the ones she did seemed kinda healthy. Maybe it was the lighting. Anyway…

        How can Welker annoy you? He’s the most talented Boston white grit-grunt in all sports.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          How can Welker annoy you? He’s the most talented Boston white grit-grunt in all sports.

          Asked and answered.

          (In my defense, he annoyed me in Miami as well. The trade to the Pats was just like splitting face cards and doubling down*).

          (*probably horribly failed blackjack reference from a non-Vegas guy)

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Welker is the Pedroia of the Pats.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Welker is better at football than Pedroia is at baseball.

          • Mike Pop

            Does Welka have a MVP!

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              Wes Welker can hit the high inside fastball better than Pedroia.

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Fucking shit. I was halfway through typing that.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  Don’t take it personally, JMK; I’m just better than you are.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  The only thing you have over me is a Playstation 3, a car and consensual sex.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  That’s probably the worst use of the word “only” in recorded human history.

                • Jack
        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Yup, pretty much.

          Except Welker can actually grow hair on the top of his head.

          • Ivan

            Looks like an actual Athlete in some cases.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Jerod Mayo and Brandon Meriweather coverage FAIL.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Coverage wasn’t blown. It evaporated.

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    Wow. That was hot.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Oh, crap, the Saints have Cris McAlister?

      THE NON-DEUCE IS LOOSE!

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Predator is just running over theaux Saints.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      We need to do whatever is necessary to keep Julio Jones from Alabama and Laurence Maroney of the Pats from ever being on the same team. That double combo of dreds and receeding hairlines is a traveshamockery of coiffs that must be stopped before it begins.

      New England has the Raiders’ first rounder in 2011. I’m a little worried.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        What happens when they sign Ricky Williams as a backup RB?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          (shudders)

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Since it’s an open thread, I have a meeting in Park Slope tomorrow. Can anyone recommend a good place to go before the meeting? A nice cafe would be great.

    • Mike Pop

      Trois Pomme Patisserie.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        You’re the man, Pop. I’ll check it out (though it looks like seating is tough).

        • Mike Pop

          You need the hookup for Park Slope restaurants, you go through me google.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Damn, Brady.

  • Ivan

    Man, that offense from the saints seem unstoppable at times.

  • Bryan

    Native New Yorker now living in Indy….contact me off-line for places to go and eat, etc!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    This is gonna get ugly.

    Daddy likes.

    • Ivan

      Hide the Women and Children ugly.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Well, at least the ugly ones.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    I can’t believe Faulk is still alive after that.

  • Ivan

    What a hit by Sharper.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Clean, too. Lead with the shoulder, not the helmet.

      (golf clap)

    • Mike Pop

      I know you remember this Ivan:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAGU1Wc1muQ

      • Ivan

        How can I forget.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    More annoying: Chris Berman or Jar Jar Binks?

  • Reggie C.

    Thank you RANDY !

    Make this a game. I can’t stand the idea of an undefeated NFC squad that pummeled my big blue.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      That was the worst Giants game ever*.

      *Non-SB 35 division.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Kaaaaaaahhhhhhhhnnnnnn!!!!!!

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      “The Search for Spock” > “The Wrath of Khan”.

      /Kramer’d

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Colston! Yay Hofstra.

  • Ivan

    Wow the Pats D=Universal fail.

  • southernyankeefan

    The fact that i was offered a ticket to this game and had to miss it because of final tomorrow makes me angry.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Should have went to The University of Phoenix, now shouldn’t you? Have you seen their football stadium?!

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Saints play physical football. Take note, Giants.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Did that guy have a piece of headgear shaped like a…whistle?

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Wanted for questioning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnzw_i4YmKk (SFW)

      • http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/madamsteph/Sports/alg_melky.jpg Drew

        The whistles go WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    • southernyankeefan

      That was the whistle monster. He hes been at every saints game since i was a kid.

  • Ivan

    Remember when ppl killed Belichick for going for it on 4th and 3? Doesn’t look so crazy uh when you watch the pats play defense especially in the secondary.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    I text PC Sheriff all the time to report crime. It’s my civic duty. Then they say things like, “that isn’t a crime” or “you don’t even live in this county”. I expect better out of my civil servants.

  • Salty Buggah

    Nice to Mike Bell having a job. He was pretty good in Denver as one of those undrafted RBs. Then, he had a odd case of fumblitis and got cut. I remember when he and Tatum Bell would be our 2-headed attack. The TV graphics would compare them with the title of the graphic being things like “For whom the Bell tolls”

  • EJC

    From the useless information area… just came back from Disney in Orlando. One thing that I do while walking around the park and waiting in line is to count the caps and shirts of MLB teams just to get a feel who has the most fans. Of course this is biased because it is on the East Coast (so didn’t expect to count any Mariners Caps) but maybe someone will find this interesting. Here were my totals:

    Yankees: 45
    Red Sox: 14
    Rays: 6
    Mets: 5
    Phillies: 3
    White Sox: 2
    Tigers: 2
    Blue Jays: 1
    Braves: 1
    Rangers: 1

    To my surprise — zero Cubs, Cardinals, and Marlins (it is in Florida). I expected the Yankees and Red Sox to be one two but didn’t think it would of been by this much.

    • Salty Buggah

      FWIW, from my memory, in Colorado, it’s Yankees (tiny tiny gap), Red Sox (large gap, Rays (small gap), White Sox (insignificant gap), and then Phillies (non Rockies of course).

      Was this only for Disneyworld or outside of it too? Because if its only for Disney itself, it makes sense that there were not any Marlins caps. Most of those people are tourists and not necessarily Florida residents.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I think it’s interesting. My friend and I sometimes count Yankee jerseys before going into the stadium just to see who has the most representation.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Game. Set. Match.

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    Wow. That was the easiest interception I’ve seen in a while. Brady, dude, don’t change.

  • Brooklyn Ed – slacking in class now

    hmmm..totally not my business, but was just wondering you dating mike ashmore? the writer for trenton?