Nov
10

Open Thread: RAB Fantasy Football League Update

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I’ve been intentionally been delaying my first fantasy football update this season, because frankly it’s been pretty bad for me. After a nice 2-1 start, I’ve since lost five of six, and I have just one of the 44 highest scoring players in the league. The main reason for my struggles are the hurt and/or underperforming Anquan Boldin and Terrell Owens, who I figured were good for double digit points on a weekly basis. Free agent pickup Nate Burleson has been my second best offensive player, and Ahmad Bradshaw has emerged as my second RB behind MJD.

Chad Pennington got hurt and Mark Sanchez wasn’t cutting it, so I swapped Knowshown Moreno for David Garrard. If that’s not enough, I have to face the teams currently ranked first and second in the league over the next two weeks, and I’ll face three of the top four teams in the next five weeks. Yippee. 2009 has not been kind of my fantasy teams, but if that’s the price I have to pay for the Yankees winning the World Series, then so be it.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the night. None of the local teams are in action, so you’re stuck finding your own entertainment. Talk about whatever you want, just be cool. You can see the full fantasy football league standings are after the jump.

  1. Dirty Mark Sanchez, 8-1-0, 887.96 points
  2. JSBrendog (rocks), 7-2-0, 948.92
  3. Right Field Porches, 6-3-0, 967.92
  4. Greg Fertel, 5-4-0, 1006.52
  5. Tommie’s Champions, 5-4-0, 898.10
  6. Tommie’s Challenger, 5-4-0, 860.44
  7. baseballbackyet?, 5-4-0, 827.58
  8. The Highlanders, 5-4-0, 796.28
  9. Jamal G., 4-5-0, 920.20
  10. Vick Works at Petco, 4-5-0, 836.82
  11. grgoyldef2, 4-5-0, 817.42
  12. COLE†rain™, 3-6-0, 824.74
  13. Manimal, 3-6-0, 781.82
  14. Mike A., 3-6-0, 734.50
  15. Ken Phelps, 3-6-0, 657.30
  16. Kendra’s Basketts, 2-7-0, 696.88
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    So did I succeed in my head explosion endeavour?

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      There is now a crater where my head was formerly located, Rebecca.

      Fine job.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        My work here is done.

    • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      You. (safe)

      ;-)

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Have I ever denied it?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Like I always say, catch a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and you can have sex with his wife while he’s out fishing.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            That reminds me of something my grandfather used to tell me. He would lean over, put his hand on my shoulder and say “Sonny, I’m gonna go upstairs and fuck your Grandma.”

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                He was an honest guy, I’ll grant him that.

                The visual, I could have lived without.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I don’t blame him. Your grandma was quite the tasty dish back in the day.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              My Grandma used to say, “James, when in doubt, pull it out.” I doubt she realized the meaning extended beyond baking.

              Funny enough, I’m using one of her eggplant lasagna recipes right now! Miss you, Grandma!

        • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          You’re challenging TSJC for best hype-man person around these parts.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Did I miss something?

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    Is Tommie’s Champions who I think it is…?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      NONE OTHA MOTHA FUCKA

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Honestly, I was thinking Tom Brady but if it’s you…

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Kendra’s Basketts: Last in our league, but first in our hearts.
    http://a323.yahoofs.com/coreid.....LB48KEFDU6 (probably NSFW)

  • pat

    According to this thing http://whatsmytwitteraccountworth.com/ the RAB twitter page is worth $819.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      Wow and Fake Mikey Kay is 850.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        I’m $330, and that’s probably more than what my blog is worth.

      • pat

        Damn, Abe is 1977

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      tsjc68: $278.

      I’m slackin on my mackin. Simpin on my pimpin.

  • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

    Ken Phelps Ken Phelps. Haha awesome name.

    • donttradecano

      but terrible team

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    Amid speculation about the pursuit John Lackey, the viability Chien-Ming Wang and the desire to bring back Andy Pettitte, there remains one ever-present question about the Yankees starting rotation. What will be done with the starters-turned-relievers? For the most part, general manager Brian Cashman has left all of next year’s questions unanswered until the organizaton’s internal meetings take place, but this afternoon he gave his opinion on Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain.

    “I look at them as starters that can relieve,” he said. “But I look at them as starters.”
    [Per LoHud. WTF does he mean by starters that can relieve? Gaudin type people?]

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Interesting news also per LoHud:

      Cashman on speculation that the Yankees are going after John Lackey: “Anybody who says we’re on any player right now would be false because we have not met. We have not met about anybody.”

      Doesn’t surprise me.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        JON HEYMAN, YOU LIED TO ME!!!!

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Anyone who listens to Heyman gets what they deserve.

          Heyman carries the water for these agents in November and December and gets some scoops in January and February. That’s how his business works.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        I thought the most interesting bit was the line about too many middle infielders and Nick Swisher.

  • Mike Pop

    So di Teix and Jeter deserve the gold gloves?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Maybe, and no.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Teix actually had a defensive down year for him….

        Anyway, all debate over this award is summed: Rafael Palmeiro

        • JGS

          Fangraphs doesn’t go back to 1999, so I’m just going to assume a UZR of 1271.6 in those 28 games

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            FACT: Rafael Palmeiro did not commit a single error at DH the year he won the Gold Glove. FACT.

            • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

              Palmeiro is a versatile player, he can play 1st and DH.

              /ESPN’d

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Who deserved SS?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Either Andrus or Izturis. Far better defensive shortstops than Jeter was.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            All right. Just wondering.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              The Gold Gloves are now, and pretty much have been for decades, and offensive award.

              Gold Glove Decision Tree:
              A.) Take all the guys who hit well.
              B.) See which one fields fairly well also.
              C.) Make sure he’s not disqualified for being a jerk to reporters. If he’s not, proceed.
              D.) Give the award to him.

              It’s dumb.

              • andrew

                “The best part of the whole thing is that the Gold Glove winners are chosen by baseball personnel. Every June, as the balloting for the All-Star teams heads down the stretch, there is a gnashing of teeth in the press over the idiocy and ignorance of the fans, who have a distressing tendency to vote for players they’ve heard of, even if those players are batting .200 or stuck on the disabled list. But the Gold Gloves are voted on by major-league coaches and managers, people who are expected to know who’s actually playing, and at what position. That most of these people failed to notice Palmeiro’s absence from the field is sort of alarming.”

          • pete

            here is a question: how would the following team do, with a league average pitching staff?
            C – Y. Molina
            1B – Tex/Youk/Overbay
            2B – utley/zobrist
            SS – Andrus
            3B – Beltre?
            LF – Crawford
            CF – Gutierez
            RF – Ichiro?

            It’d be hella fun to watch, certainly

            • pete

              actually put figgins at 3B, not beltre

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                No, put Beltre there. On the whole, he’s probably the better defensive third baseman.

                • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                  Plus he doesn’t wear a cup.

            • Tom Zig

              is Yadier Molina that good defensively?

            • andrew

              They’d probably be good, but not just because of the defense. Their offense would be above average as well.

              Ichiro
              Crawford
              Utley
              Tex
              Beltre
              Molina
              Guiterez
              Andrus

              Avg pitching. Best defense. Slightly above avg offense.
              That should be a good team

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    Here’s an interesting question:

    Now I know it’s only been a one year and all of our shiny new toys(Swishy, Tex, CC, A.J.) have more time on their contracts except Pettite (who’s not so shiny and new), but was last year’s offseason the best in Yankee history?

    Consider that we got:

    . An legitimate young Ace with strikeout stuff and a terrific resume
    . One of the best young 1b in baseball, both offensively and defensively
    . A young, switch hitting, 20+HR, 370+OBP LF’er who we got for Wilson Betemit, cash, and other player(s) who matter so little to the Yanks I don’t even remember who they are
    . One of the best number three starters in the league (remember Wang) who turned into a very serviceable number two when Wang went down, and who (knock on wood) has stayed healthy.
    . A veteran pitcher who had a terrific second half and made every start we required him to make, not to mention won all three clinching games in the playoffs

    Now I know it’s early to judge but can anybody think of a better Yankee offseason than this one?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      November, 1997:

      Yankees trade Kenny Rogers to Oakland Athletics for Scott Brosius.

      GREATEST.
      OFFSEASON.
      EVER.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        (keeps reading)

        OH SHIT WE SIGNED CHILI DAVIS AND LUIS SOJO THAT SAME OFFSEASON TOO THIS SHIT KEEPS GETTING BETTER

        • Evil Empire

          Luis Sojo seals the deal. That is the greatest offseason.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      One of the best ones in recent years, though the ones in the mid-late 90s weren’t too shabby, either.

    • JGS

      Russ Davis and Sterling Hitchcock for Jim Mecir, Jeff Nelson, and Tino Martinez

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Good, but still only relief pitchers and an elite first baseman. This year we got a young Ace starter, a young elite 1b, a durable veteran who had a terrific second half, and a pitcher who had a very solid year stepping up to replace our injured number 2 starter.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          And Swishy. Can’t forget Swishy.

      • steve (different one)

        it would be funny to be able to see an alternate universe where the Yankees trade 2 of their best prospects for a 28 year old 1Bman with a career line of .265/.334/.466

        i’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the Yankee blogosphere would be calling for the immediate firing of the GM.

    • vin

      On paper, the 2003-2004 offseason was pretty damn impressive (including trades):

      Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Kenny Lofton…
      Javier Vazquez, Kevin Brown, Tom Gordon

      That’s a whole lot of talent right there. Of course they all played to mixed results.

      Also, the ’92-’93 offseason had:
      Wade Boggs, Jimmy Key, Paul O’Neill, and Jim Abbott.

      http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    • Chris

      Every post season game was started by a pitcher that was signed last winter and we won the World Series. It’s pretty hard to do any better than that.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    If Boras seriously thinks he can get 3 years for Damon, then God bless both of them. I never begrudge a player making every dime he can while he’s able.

    But from the Yanks perspective, you start looking deeper into Plan B. What do you guys think Carl Crawford would cost in terms of talent? At 10mil per , it would seem to me he doesn’t have much residual value left over.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....n=OF#value

    But Fangraphs disagrees, I forgot what a good season he had this year, one of his best overall. It would seem he would command a decent package of talent. What are the Ray’s needs? Would they be OK trading a popular player within the division? What’s one year of Carl Crawford worth in prospects?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      BTW-I think were a better team with Crawford than we are with Damon. He’s a far better fielder, better baserunner, and if he hits like he did last year, then his bat is a good replacement.

      • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

        Of course we’re a better team with CC, he’s a better player than Damon.

        As for what he’s worth in terms of prospects, I don’t think the Rays will trade him to us for anything less than a fleecing of our young talent. I doubt he’ll be a Yankee next year.

      • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Damon’s better offensively, Crawford is better in the field (by far). But I’m pretty sure [Damon + whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford] is more valuable than [Crawford - whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford]. I don’t think it’d be too close, either.

        • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

          Why do you think JD is better than CC offensively? Slugging?

          Don’t forget that you basically turn 50+ of those singles and walks into doubles.

          • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            It’s more like 40 than 50+, since you’re not taking his CS into account.

            It’s not a landslide in offense, I just think Damon’s better with the stick. You’re right, though, Crawford’s speed certainly makes him more valuable than his numbers look at first glance. Even if it’s even on offense, I stick by the conclusion above. [Damon + whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford] is more valuable than [Crawford - whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford].

            • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

              Oh yeah I definitely agree with that. Also on the Yankees you’d have to figure CC would be far more picky on the basepaths. He probably wouldn’t steal as much with Teixy and Al behind him.
              Hopefully in 2011 he’s in pinstripes.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          But I’m pretty sure [Damon + whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford] is more valuable than [Crawford - whatever you'd have to trade for Crawford]. I don’t think it’d be too close, either.

          That. A thousand times, that.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Maybe, but we do have some depth at some positions in the farm system. Guys who are unlikely to ever get a crack at the roster, so they’re expendable to fill a need.

          For example:
          Austin Jackson, Ivan Nova and Anthony Claggett sounds like a decent package for 1 year of Carl Crawford earning 10mil. If A-Jax alone pans out, they make back the 14 mil difference between his salary and value every year they control him. If 2 of the 3 are on the 25 man roster at all over the next few years, they’d still come out ahead.

          • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Yeah, but you could just sign Crawford (or someone else) after the 2010 season and not give up the talent. In your hypothetical, you’re giving up prospects not for the total value of Crawford, but just for the incremental gain from Damon/Cameron/[unknown option] to Crawford.

            I also, to be totally honest, think we have absolutely no idea what it would take to get Crawford in a trade, so I kinda think it’s a pointless exercise (the assigning names to the trade part of it).

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              OK, but you’re saying ‘the price is too high’ and I’m not so sure. We have to throw names out there to know what either of us means by that.

              • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                I’m not saying you can’t go for it, it’s just not my thing. Maybe the Rays think A-Jax is awful. Maybe they’ll want more to trade him within the division, maybe they don’t care about that. There’s just so many variables in play that, in my mind, it’s not s worthwhile exercise.

                On a more basic level, I would assume they’ll want the kind of prospects it’s not easy to let go of, and I don’t think one year of Crawford is worth that much when there are other options out there and Crawford can be had for just money if you want him next offseason.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  I also assume they picked up that option with the intention of trading him. I don’t think they want to pay him that money. He made 5.4 mil last year, their budget can’t absorb players having their salary double.

                  So if they’re committed to dealing him (as I suspect) then it simply comes down to getting the best package available. My offer may be it, or it may not. We’ll see.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  He made $8.25 million in 2009, not $5.4 million.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Here’s the thing, though: Whomever trades for Crawford can sign him to an extension. It doesn’t mean they’ll actually BE ABLE TO sign him to an extension.

                  CC was traded from Cleveland to Milwaukee, but he refused to sign an extension and demanded to go to free agency. Ditto, Matt Holliday (twice).

                  Crawford could do the same thing.

                  Be patient. Wait. No need to spend prospects for a guy we can get for nothing but money a year from now. Particularly when there’s perfectly acceptable stopgaps at hand.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  HCM, Fangraphs had him at 5.4, Cots has him at 8.25 with a 2.5 mil buyout. I’ll assume Fangraphs subtracts the buyout money, since it was previously guaranteed.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  You’re reading the wrong line. You’re reading his 2008 salary on Fangraphs.

                  They don’t have his 2009 salary listed on his page.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Then you have to subtract the buyout from his 2010 salary, too. Either way, his 2010 salary isn’t as big an increase over his 2009 salary as you said it is.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  No, I misread it. TSJC is right.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          THIS. It’s not that I dislike Crawford, but I think he’s been built up to be better than he really is. Giving away something of good value and expecting a player like Crawford, whose game is built almost entirely on speed and defense, to retain that value years later and at a high price, is not close to a sure thing.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      But from the Yanks perspective, you start looking deeper into Plan B.

      I agree. I’m interested to hear what you have in mind for Plan B.

      What do you guys think Carl Crawford would cost in terms of talent?

      OH SHIT I’M NO LONGER INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR PLAN B

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I know what you’re thinking, but he had a great year this year.

        http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....osition=OF

        Dude put up a +17.6 UZR, 5.5 WAR. BABIP was just a nudge higher than career average, so it wasn’t just luck. It might be buying high, but at 28 he could just be coming into his prime years as well.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          No, you don’t quite know what I’m thinking. Wrong objection

          I’m very interested in acquiring Carl Crawford.

          In 2010. Under no circumstances am I TRADING FOR Carl Crawford. Not at all. I dislike giving up prospects for players under contract in general, but I hate it when those prospects are going to a division rival for a superfluous player. Trading for Crawford helps our competitor more than it helps us. Adding Cameron and waiting a year is by FAR the smarter option if you want to have a non-Johnny Damon 2010 leftfielder.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Sorry:

            In 2010 2011.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Sign him to an extension.

            We didn’t need to trade for Johan Santana either, since we could have had him the nex. . . oh, that’s right. If we could get him for a package like I detailed above, I do it. If not, then give me a better alternative.

            Lets assume (as I did) Damon wants 3 years. He’s out. Matsui’s out, since he cant play LF. You don’t want Carl Crawford.

            Is Melky our LF? Sign Bay/Holliday to bazillion $ long term deals?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Sign him to an extension.

              Fuck that. JUST BE PATIENT FOR A DAMN YEAR.

              Cameron is a perfectly acceptable one year stopgap.

              • JGS

                unless you think the Rays will trade him midseason, and depending on how they are doing, they just might

              • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                I agree. It’s not that there’s something out there that’s better than Crawford in 2010, it’s that there’s something out there that’s better than trading for one year of Crawford. Just sign someone else, even if it’s Cameron, then sign Crawford after the 2010 season.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              You’re ignoring a possible signing of Cameron.

            • steve (different one)

              the Rays don’t trade with the Yankees and they certainly aren’t going to trade the guy who owns every offensive record in franchise history to the Yankees. they just won’t.

              i can’t prove that beyond “b/c i said so”, but it’s still true.

  • Guest

    The gold-glove convo got me thinking about defensive metrics. Here’s my question for those who know more than I do: Which defensive metric takes into account where the defender is positioned before the ball is hit into play? All other things being equal, I think that metric would be superior to those that don’t.

    Think about it: the number of balls a player gets to in a zone is not exclusively dependent on his own range. Where the player is positioned before the ball is hit into play plays a large role too. Consequently, I think we would get a more correct picture of a player’s true range if we knew how far he had to travel to get to a particular ball in his “zone.” And we would know how far we had to travel if: 1). We knew where he was positioned before the ball was hit into play 2). Where the ball passed through his zone.

    I thought about this because some speculate Jeter’s improved positioning was the main reason his UZR got so much better. But this has nothing to do with Jeter’s actual range. Rather, its a testament to good coaching. The Yankees positioned Jeter in a manner that would emphasize his strengths (going right) and minimize the impact of his weakness (going left).

    In any event, it seems to me that if we want to figure out a player’s range, we should give greatest credence to metrics that take the variable of defensive positioning out of the equation.

    • pete

      but the best defenders position themselves properly. In fact, in a game decided by inches, where the difference between elite and average can be nothing but positioning, i’d say it is either the most important or one of the most important factors as far as defense goes. not as much in terms of measuring talent, sure, but in terms of defensive value, i’ll take the guy who knows where to be on every pitch.

      • pete

        but, to answer your question, right now there really isn’t one. when we get hit/fx technology, we should be better equipped at measuring defensive ability/talent, since we should be able to determine the most “impressive” range plays. But a cumulative metric will always count the plays that the players weren’t positioned properly for, as it should.

      • Guest

        But we know that coaches play a large role in positioning. They actively move players at key moments during games. And to the extent players adjust their positining during games without direct orders from a coach, I would presume that they do so based on scouting reports/strategy discussed before the game. This is exceedingly more likely when you consider the vast improvements that have been made in advance scouting. Do you think teams compile all that knowledge on hitter tendencies only to leave defensive positioning entirely in the hands of their players? It’s possible, but I doubt it.

        Obviously players are not without some control over their positiong. Do I believe that veterans like Jeter might occassionally use their wealth of knowledge re: their own pitcher/the count/the hitter to move a step or two to the right or the left? Of course.

        But I think for the most part and for most players, defensive positioning is a matter of team strategy and knowledge, not individual intuition.

        • pete

          actually, coaches don’t play a very large role in positioning. they only position players when they are noticeably far from where they should be, or the manager wants to realign them according to something his charts tell him. I’m talking about pitch-to-pitch realignment – take a few steps in on an 0-2 count, etc.

  • pete

    the problem with gold glove stuff is that people look at the “spectacular”-looking plays, yet ignore plays like this: http://seattle.mariners.mlb.co.....id=6691695, that in all likelihood are not made by any other outfielder in baseball.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      No, they’re not even that smart.

      I’m convinced that voters just look at who hits well at a position and pick the guy who fields well from amongst that list.

      Derek Jeter didn’t make more spectacular looking plays than Elvis Andrus did, but he won the award for the best defensive shortstop in the AL. And, he won that primarily because he fielded fairly well for a good hitting shortstop.

      Defense is the secondary part of the equation. Which is retarded.

      • vin

        It also helps that Jeter didn’t make 22 errors this year like Andrus. I’m sure some of those errors came on balls that Jeter would’ve never gotten to, but knowing when not to throw the ball is part of the game.

        • pete

          this is true – while perhaps they shouldn’t, guys who vote on gold gloves look a lot at errors. mostly because they’re too stupid and old-school to comprehend something like UZR

    • JGS

      along those lines, didn’t Dayton Moore say at one point that Yuni Betancourt was a good defensive shortstop?

      and I agree with the comment right above this

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I remember during the games against Seattle, I wouldn’t even get excited about any fly balls hit in the gaps because I knew Gutierrez was going to track them down. Dude’s range is incredible.

  • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

    Ready to meet the owner of Dirty Mark Sanchez?

    Ready?

    Ready?

    You’re looking right at him.

  • Dela G

    any photoshop gurus want to help me?

    i need someone to make this emblem say twenty seven

    thanks in advance

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_h6YN.....ankees.jpg

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Let’s just assume for purposes discussion that this package gets a Crawford deal done, since the main objection seems to be the price is too high.

    Austin Jackson, Ivan Nova and Anthony Claggett sounds like a decent package for 1 year of Carl Crawford earning 10mil.

    Do you guys still object? I make that deal, even if I have a crystal ball that’s telling me A-Jax pans out.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      I’d pull the trigger but that won’t get the job done imo.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      If a crystal ball tells me AJax pans out, not under any circumstances.

      Right now? IDk, maybe.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        If he pans out, he still not Carl Crawford.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          How do you know that?

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Carl’s faster and makes better contact. Power’s a wash. Biggest knock on Carl was his lack of plate discipline, and he improved that dramatically last year. Carl’s just a better player.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yup.

              He’s a free agent next year. He knows we’re interested in him.

              Wait.

            • Accent Shallow

              But Jackson can play CF. Crawford either can’t, or won’t.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Do you guys still object?

      Yes.

      • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

        Really? I’m not an A-Jax fan (nice 3rd OF?), Ivan Nova is a #3, and Claggett is interchangeable with any other reliever.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          And, a year from now, I can have all of them PLUS Crawford.

          Patience is a virtue.

          • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

            Next year Carl Crawford will be the better player. Having the better player (esp. when he’s young) is always preferable to having prospects (esp. when they’re unproven and medium probability). He’s probably going to be better than Damon, Holliday, and Cameron next year.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Having the better player (esp. when he’s young) is always preferable to having prospects (esp. when they’re unproven and medium probability).

              No. Not if there’s a way you can get BOTH, there’s not.

              Crawford: Good player
              AJax, Nova, and Claggett: Good prospects
              Having one or the other: a fine thing to have
              Having both: a far better thing to have

    • GG2000

      Isn’t Claggett on the Pirates now? (DFA’ed when Guzman was added to the 40-man roster?)

    • ROBTEN

      With all of the discussion of Crawford, what do others think about this analysis, which puts a possible contract at 4/72-4/80 based upon fangraphs’ calculation that teams payed roughly $4.5 million per win on the free-agent market (and Crawford being worth around 4 WAR during the potential contract period)?

      Crawford, over the last six years, plays out at slightly above $16 million (per fangraphs), so it seems like you would get comparable value (if $18 per) over the life of the contract.

      Given the current market, does this seem likely? Do the Yankees, because they’re the Yankees, have to go to 4/80 or higher?

    • steve (different one)

      i don’t even think that gets it done.

      that’s one good prospect for Crawford. someone else would probably beat that offer.

      Claggett is a Pirate. plus he sucks.

      Nova is filler who was rule V’ed last year.

  • ev

    Saw this mentioned in the post about free agent outfielders and heard it mentioned a few times by the MSM. Why are people speculating that Matsui wants to go play with Ichiro in Seattle?
    If its only because they happen to be Japanese then that is a pretty ridiculous notion. Everything I have read and heard in the past suggests that the two actually don’t like each other at all. Has there been any real evidence that Matsui wants to play alongside Ichiro or is this just a ploy by his agent to drive up the price for the Yankees?

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    I’m going to use this open thread to ask qquestions I’ve wanted to ask for a long time but keep forgetting to:

    1. How do you bold words?
    2. How do you increase font size?
    3. How do you itaalicize words?
    4. How do you put a dash through words?

    That’s all I could think of off the top of my head. ?Anybody w/answers, please respond. Thanks.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      1) ()
      2) Dunno
      3) ()
      4) ()

      Obviously u have to remove the parenthesis.

      • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

        ah shit

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        What?!?!?

        • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

          lol I’ll try again.
          This is bold:
          … Type what you want bolded here. then you close the bold command with one of these …
          Remove the periods.

          Italicize is the same way but rather than “strong” you type “i” and Strike through is “strike”

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            So-

            …bold… should be bold.

            • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

              nah it’s friggin impossible to show you lol. The command things disappear. Sorry man.

              http://www.htmlgoodies.com/pri.....hp/3478151

              Scroll down to tag format and that’s how you enclose the strong, i, or strike commands.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              Or not…

              Bear with me people, I’m thickheaded.

              • radnom

                /

    • JGS

      (strong) to start bolding, (/strong) to stop
      (i) and (/i) for italics
      (strike) and (/strike) for strikethrough

      just replace the parentheses with

      • JGS

        with what you get if you hit shift comma and shift period (greater than and less than signs)

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      1 Type whatever

      3 Same as one, but use ‘i’

      4 Same as one, but use ‘s’

      Remove the *’s.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      This is very hard to explain, since the symbols don’t show up when typed. I’ll try this:

      First type this (not the way I did, but all together in that order)

      in front of the part you want in bold. Where you want it to finish being in bold, type it again with a backslash / in front of the b. Substitute i for italics, etc.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Fuck, this is impossible.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      They’re HTML tags. You put what you want to bold, italicize, or strikethrough inside a pair of opening and closing tags.

      Bold is (b)(/b)
      Italics is (i)(/i)
      Strikethrough is (s)(/s)

      But, the tags use the symbols instead of the ( and ) symbols.

      You can’t make things bigger or smaller. Only Mike, Ben, and Joe can do that.

      Oh, one more: The little indented quotes thing is (blockquote)(/blockquote). That one is handy too.

      Experiment.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Heh. We’re all having the same problems.

        angle brackets, diamond brackets, cone brackets, wickets, chevrons: or ? ?

        That’s what you’re supposed to use.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Damnit, Tommie always beats me to shit.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Okay, I’lll experiment here. These next few posts will look nonsensical, but anyway:

        bbold/b

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        [bbold/b]

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          “b”bold”b”

          • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

            go to that html goodies link i posted above. Look at the examples under tag format.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          bold

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            THAT’S RIGHT MOTHA FUCKAS I CAN PLAY THIS SHIT TOO HELLS YEAH

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              YOU KNOW YOU’RE SCARED MOTHA FUCKA JUST ADMIT IT

              • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                Why don’t you sit the next few plays out, RRR.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                That’s good. You have taken your first step into a larger world.

                Sincerely,
                ObiWan Kenobi

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      The key to doing things like that are using the “” keys. Put a “b” between them for bold, “i” for italics, or “strike” between the arrows. To close it, put a “/” before the “b” or “i” or “strike”.

      • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

        Gonna try it out.

        Did I do it?

      • danny

        (b)hmmmmmmm(/b)

  • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

    Hey Mike, or anyone really, do we think Jorge Vasquezt starts in Scranton or in Trenton?

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      AA. He barely played there last year, and Juan Miranda might still be blocking him.

  • Hey ZZ

    Just out of curiosity: Why kind of value could the Yankees get for Melky in a trade?

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      A Justin Smoak type of bat.

      /Gammons’d

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      Eh, probably not too much, unless someone’s real desperate for an outfielder. They were ready to swap him for Cameron in the OF so, think along those lines.

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      A Dan Cortes-type?

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    I saw the Pinstripes Plus top 50 Yankee Prospects list for next year.

    SCHWINNGGG!!!

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Let me guess. My boy Manny Banny is in the top 5

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        The Top 10 has no surprises, it’s just the overwhelming depth of the system that makes my pants tight.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          TMI

          • Andy in Sunny Daytona

            Do you mean TMI? It really isn’t that hard difficult to do.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            TOO MUCH INFORMATION

            /Just showing off

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Now, use blockquote and strike.

              DO IT

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Pedro Martinez Curt Schilling is the classiest Red Sock player in the history of baseball ever. Fact.

                THAT’S RIGHT MOTHA FUCKA BLOCKQUOTE’S GOIN’ DOWN NEXT

                • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                  heh strike fail

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Oh… fail.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  You can’t use (s). You have to use (strike).

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  WTF! It worked at the bottom of the screen.

                  Pedro Martinez Curt Schilling is the classiest Red Sock player in the history of baseball ever. Fact.

                • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                  Double strike Fail!!!

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Pedro Martinez Curt Schilling is the classiest Red Sock player in the history of baseball ever. Fact.

                  THAT’S RIGHT I MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE BUT I’M STILL COMING FOR YOU BLOCKQUOTE

                  AND YOU FELT SO SAFE

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  I’m trying to write a blockquote

                  This really doesn’t look like it’lldo anything, BTW. What exactly is blockquote again?

                • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

                  There you go!

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Ah I see. It’s centering what I write. Like:

                  “Reverse psychology, my friends. Because what we say and do on this blog has a very real impact on what happens on the field.”

                  -The Artist

                  THAT’S RIGHT YOU PUNK BITCHES I’M HERE TO STAY

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  You have done well, young padawan. Trust the force. It will be a powerful ally.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Fuck you you punk bitch you’re going down next Thank you kindly for your help, which I very much appreciate TSJC.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  YOU’LL RUE THE DAY YOU CROSSED ME, TREBEK.

      • pat

        4 catchers in the top 10.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I assume the “SCHWINNGGG!!!” is for Melvin. Confirm or deny?

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        No. No. The Legend of Melvin is still, regrettably, an RAB thang.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Re the GG: they need to give the award out to the individual OF spots and not just let everyone qualify.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Modern Warfare 2 is too good for words.

    • Alex S

      i got it back on the 5th…….lol

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Let’s try this:

    Bold: &#60b>&#60/b>
    Italic: &#60i>&#60/i>
    Strikethrough: &#60strike>&#60/strike>
    Quote/Cite: &#60blockquote>&#60/blockquote>

    BOOOOOOOOOOOM.

    • Tom Zig

      heh, no dice

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    This is awesome

    http://bit.ly/1ELJD9

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      +A bunch

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      Wow.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      FUCKING AWESOME

      /Still showing on off

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Psh do the block quote now. It’s still waiting for you.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          BOOOOM goes the dynamite

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
    • JMK aka The Overshare

      I know! I didn’t expect the html to fail my example so greatly. I should have figured…Sidenote: I hate carrots.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    http://www.sabernomics.com/sab.....mpetition/

    Must read with all the talk about non-tenders this year. It doesn’t drive down FA price tags, since they all have to come from somewhere. It’s a wash. If FA salaries go down this year, it will be because it’s a weak class in a weak economy, not some supply/demand issue.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Yup.

    • ROBTEN

      This is an interesting analysis. I have been thinking, in a similar context, about the narratives about the free-agent market and the supposed pressures of a weak economic climate.

      I think that what free-agents have to contend with today and what accounts for, in some cases, a “weaker” free-agent market (strictly speaking, for players seeking contracts in terms of dollars per year) are two interrelated components:

      1) a changing set of value-metrics, which provide a more effective way of evaluating the cost-per-wins difference between two players (that is, determining the real value difference between a higher-priced veteran and a low- to mid-priced younger player)

      and

      2) a globalized talent pool, which goes beyond any particular free-agent class. The spending which is now moving towards the draft and towards the Latin American and Caribbean markets reflect the changing metrics and points to the drive by owners to drive down contract values.

      In other words, I think that the economic climate, while a nice narrative, doesn’t fully account for the emerging changes in how the free-agent market operates. Although this will probably be an unpopular argument, if there is a trend towards less available money in the free-agent market, I would expect (and hope) that in the next set of labor negotiations, the MLBPA looks for securing either shorter years before free-agency, or larger contracts for younger players. I’d also like to see or hear about more union involvement in the Latin American market.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        More relevant than the national economy is Baseball’s own economy, since some businesses can do well and sometimes ever better during a recession. But Bud has stated (and the figures show) that Baseball is down around 10% this year. With unemployment high, and prospects poor for a job recovery anytime soon, it stands to reason that teams will tighten their belts this off season as they did last year. Maybe even more so, since they were still flush with cash from the prior yer before the economy tanked.

        It’s not a ‘narrative’, it’s the cold hard facts on the earnings reports. Sales are down, spending on FAs will follow.

        • ROBTEN

          My point in using “narrative” is not to deny economic reality, but to raise questions about whether the simple correlation between “weak (national) economy” and “weak (contract) market” is valid.

          This is the narrative which is most often heard, but by itself I don’t think that it explains why a number of free-agent salaries were significantly lower than expected before the market began.

          Leaving aside the issue of possible collusion among owners, I think that it was also the result of a shift in the determination of value along with the increased investment in the development of a global talent pool.

          Of course, the economic realities of the baseball business matter, and I don’t deny that revenues might be lower, but almost all the teams in the league claim to have significant operating losses (and have done so for decades). So, going by what Selig claims about baseball revenues does not provide the whole picture. There are many ways in which teams maintain revenue streams which do not appear or are actually counted against the claimed team revenues.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    http://www.sabernomics.com/sab.....rs-myopic/

    Another goodie, about GM’s being smarter than you think.

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      So you mean Cashman isn’t some idiot who just gives blank checks?

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Okay I’m late on this, but for the potential Cameron-added lineup:

    Assuming Damon, Matsui, and Cameron are all there:

    1. Jeter, SS
    2. Damon, LF
    3. Tex, 1B
    4. A-Rod, 3-B
    5. Matsui, DH
    6. Posada, C
    7. Cameron, CF
    8. Cano, 2B
    9. Swisher, RF

    Assuming Cameron/Matsui:

    1. Jeter, SS
    2. Swisher, RF
    3. Tex, 1B
    4. A-Rod, 3B
    5. Matsui, DH
    6. Posada, C
    7. Cano, 2B
    8. Cameron, CF
    9. Cabrera, LF

    Assuming Cameron/Damon:

    1. Jeter, SS
    2. Damon, DH
    3. Tex, 1B
    4. A-Rod, 3B
    5. Posada, C
    6. Cameron, CF
    7. Cano, 2B
    8. Swisher, RF
    9. Cabrera, LF

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      The first lineup makes me sad… :(

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Haha, I’m sorry Drew. Honestly, Melky’s a perfect 4th OF: he can play all three positions more than competently, he has a strong arm, and he can hit at or around league average. It kinda fucks BG over, but whatever.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Fuck Brett Gardner. He’s not a starting OFer.

          • Mike Pop

            You can’t say fuck Brett Gardner. That dude’s got heart AND grit.

            He keeps our grit-meter where it needs to be.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              It’s irrational, but I hate Brett Gardner more than Kei Igawa. Can’t stand “Grit” Gardner. Really.

              • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                Really? Gardner is at least useful.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  He’s useful as a PR or extra outfielder. I don’t think he can ever get on base enough to make for a useful starter. I see a guy with a terrible approach at the plate with nil power. Pitchers will adjust to him. His defense is about range. He doesn’t read the ball off the bat well and he takes poor routes.

                  I acknowledge that he has some use. I don’t know why, but I really cannot stand him. I just can’t.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  I agree with you. He’s got a little use, though not much.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Type that again and I will call my people and they will HUNT YOU DOWN

            Come on, type it. I dare you.

            Nobody says fuck Brett Gardner. Nobody.

            • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

              Nobody says fuck Brett Gardner. Nobody.
              Unless you’re a girl and the words ‘I want’ are in front.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Or you’re a homosexual man.

                Just…not in an insulting way.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              “Type that again and I will call my people and they will HUNT YOU DOWN”

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxR8OH-fDQ (safe… ish)

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              It’s a shame you picked up on basic html.

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Also, FUCK BRETT GARDNER.

                • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

                  Heh. You do have some irrational hate towards him. Did you fall victim to the good ST he had and thought he would be a good CF’er?

                  Sadly I did…

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  That’s it. My people are coming for you.

                  You now have 47 hours, 54 minutes to live. spend it wisely.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  I think Gardner is already a good CF on defense. It’s at the plate that he suffers. The .345 OBP this season was very nice, as was the aforementioned defense. Basically, Gardner’s gonna be a low-contact, good fielding version of 2009 Luis Castillo: really fast, a decent OBP output, and no power.

                • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

                  You now have 47 hours, 54 minutes to live. spend it wisely.
                  And I will spend it telling you that you epic failed in HTML.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  I’VE FIGURED IT OUT NOW THOUGH NOW HAVEN’T I

                  FEAR MY WRATH MOTHA FUCKAS

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  (I have, however, failed in by writing a surplus of nows. My bad.)

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  (And writing an incorrectly placed in)

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  Okay, you’ve had your fun.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  You can’t expect to take JobaWockeeZ sass lying down.

                  Yeah, that’s right. I wrote sass. What of it?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Nobody says fuck Brett Gardner. Nobody.

              MOSS
              And did they steal the contracts…?

              ROMA
              Fuck you care…?

              LEVENE
              “I want to tell you something, Harriet…”

              MOSS
              …the fuck is that supposed to mean…?

              LEVENE
              Will you shut up, I’m telling you this…

              Aaronow sticks his head out.

              AARONOW
              Can we get some coffee…?

              MOSS
              How ya doing?

              Pause.

              AARONOW
              Fine.

              MOSS
              Uh-huh.

              AARONOW
              If anyone’s going, I could use some coffee.

              LEVENE
              “You do get the…”
              (to Roma)
              Huh? Huh?

              MOSS
              Fuck is that supposed to mean?

              LEVENE
              “You do get the opportunity…You get them. As I do, as anyone does…”

              MOSS
              Ricky? That I don’t care they stole the contracts?

              Pause.

              LEVENE
              I got ‘em in the kitchen. I’m eating her crumb cake.

              MOSS
              What does that mean?

              ROMA
              It means, Dave, you haven’t closed a good one in a month, none of my business, you want to push me to answer you.
              (pause)
              And so you haven’t got a contract to get stolen or so forth.

              MOSS
              You have a mean streak in you, Ricky, you know that?

              LEVENE
              Rick. Let me tell you. Wait, we’re in the…

              MOSS
              SHUT THE FUCK UP!
              (pause)
              Ricky. You have a mean streak in you…
              (to Levene)
              And what the fuck are you babbling about…?
              (to Roma)
              Bring that shit up. Of my volume. You were on a bad one and I brought it up to you you’d harbor it. You’d harbor it a long long while. And you’d be right.

              ROMA
              Who said “Fuck the Machine”?

              MOSS
              “Fuck the Machine”? “Fuck the Machine”? FUCK THE MACHINE!!! What is this, courtesy class…? You’re fucked, Rick–are you fucking nuts? You’re hot, so you think you’re the ruler of this place…?! You want to…

              LEVENE
              Dave…

              MOSS
              SHUT UP!. Decide who should be dealt with how? Is that the thing? I come into the fuckin’ office today, I get humiliated by some jagoff cop. I get accused of…I GET THIS SHIT THROWN IN MY FACE BY YOU, YOU GENIUNE SHIT, BECAUSE YOU’RE TOP NAME ON THE BOARD?!?!

              ROMA
              Is that what I did, Dave? I humiliated you? My God, I’m sorry…

              MOSS
              Sittin’ on top of the world, sittin’ on top of the world, everything’s fucking peachfuzz…

              ROMA
              Oh, and I don’t get a moment to spare for a bust-out humanitarian down on his luck lately. Fuck you, Dave, you know you got a big mouth, and you make a close the whole place stinks with your farts for a week. “How much you just ingested,” what a big man you are, “Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I’ll show you how to chew it.” Your pal closes, all that comes out of your mouth is bile. How FUCKED UP YOU ARE!

              MOSS
              Who’s my pal…? And what are you, Ricky, huh, what are you, Bishop Sheean? Who the fuck are you, Mr. Slick…? What are you, friend to the workingman? Big deal. FUCK YOU! You got the memory a fuckin’ fly!
              (pause)
              I never liked you.

              ROMA
              What is this, your farewell speech?

              MOSS
              I’m going home.

              ROMA
              Your farewell to the troops?

              MOSS
              I’m not going home. I’m going to Wisconsin.

              ROMA
              Have a good trip.

              MOSS
              AH, FUCK YOU! FUCK THE LOT OF YOU!
              FUCK YOU ALL!

              Moss exits. Pause.

              ROMA
              (to Levene)
              You were saying?

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Glengarry Glen Ross? Holy shit, I haven’t seen a reference like that in a while. You’re becoming more versatile as you age, Tommie.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  GlenGarry Glen Ross has been in my Top Ten films of all time from the moment I first watched it as an NYU freshman in 1995.

                  Al Pacino was born to play Ricky Roma.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Wouldn’t Cano bat above Cameron?

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          I like Cano behind Cameron–and others for that matter–because despite Cano’s RISP trouble this year, I think he’s best utilized by having a lot of guys who can get on base in front of him. That way, his contact and power skills are utilized to drive guys in.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Assuming Cameron:

      1. Jeter, SS
      2. Cano, 2B
      3. Tex, 1B
      4. A-Rod, 3B
      5. Posada, DH
      6. Cameron, LF
      7. Swisher, RF
      8. Cabrera, CF
      9. Cervelli C

      I seriously think Posada will catch about 100 games next year and DH the rest. Cervelli plays twice a week. That’s why I don’t see us signing a DH.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        I don’t like that lineup very much. If that’s the path they do take–Posada DHing a lot–I’d like to see them make a run at Gregg Zaun to get the lion’s share of the catching innings. He’s not great, but he’s not an automatic out.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          IDK about Gregg Zaun, but I also hate that lineup.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            Like I said, he’s not great, but his bat is much better than Cervelli’s. He’s got a career .344 OBP and averages 63 walks per 162. He’s not going to hit for power or anything, but he’s not an auto-out and can play good defense. But, as was said below, I don’t see them not signing a DH.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          I don’t love it either, but we can win with it if we get pitching. A 39 year old Greg Zaun defeats the whole purpose, you might as well catch Jorge more if you were to do that. You want Cervelli in there for his defense and to catch AJ, who’s stuff is too nasty for Jorge to handle. Maybe Joba or Hughes click with Frankie as well, and you can match them up together.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            How does Zaun defeat the purpose? Getting worse for the sake of getting younger isn’t a good strategy.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              You want Cervelli in there for his athleticism and defense. Replacing one 39 year old with another 39 year old is pointless.

              • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                Zaun plays decent defense, no? He’s also not an automatic out at the plate and would just be a stop-gap, not a long-term solution.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Cervelli was an automatic out? I don’t expect him to hit for much pop, but he’s an acceptable 2nd string catcher.

                • steve (different one)

                  no.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        No reason they don’t sign a DH. That lineup means you’ll need a third catcher on your 25-man. I just don’t see it.

        • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

          Neither do I. Girardi can still rest players with a DH. He could do it more often than last year. I don’t like having a black hole every game.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            I hate to break it to you guys, but Jorge will be 39 next year. His days of catching everyday are over.

            • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

              Then rest him more. Girardi did it last year but it wasn’t a lot. He could do it more often.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                Rest him more, as in catching him 100 games?

                Glad we agree.

                • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

                  Sure. But that doesn’t mean no DH.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  OK, Posada’s the DH and Cervelli takes a foul tip off his thumb in the 2nd inning and has to leave the game. Posada catches, which means you’ve vacated the DH and the pitcher has to bat in his place, since you’ve used a roster spot on a DH instead of a 3rd Catcher.

                  Can’t wait to see Andy check his swing again, like he did his first year in Houston.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              Right, but that doesn’t mean you don’t sign a DH. If you rest him, Cervelli starts and you have a DH. Jorge is on the bench as an emergency catcher. No biggie.

              But you can’t have Jorge DHing and Frankie catching without an emergency catcher, so I’m not sure that works. I dislike having three catchers. Why do that? It’s a poor roster construction having three catchers on your 25-man, especially when two of them cannot hit.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                No, I agree that this team will carry a 3rd catcher, which is another reason you don’t sign a DH.

                (pssst-that 3rd catcher could be Montero by mid-season)

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Could be Montero but you can’t plan for that. In your plan, Posada would have to play every game or you have a lineup with Melky, Cervelli and who? Hinske? Gardner? Hairston? That’s assuming you don’t have Montero.

                  Too many variables in that, even with Montero. It’s much safer to have a DH, give Posada full days of rest, have Cervelli suck at the dish, and if need be, bring Montero up slowly.

                  Otherwise, you may have a NL-looking bottom of the lineup.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  You can either have a DH or a 3rd string catcher. If you’re committed to DHing Posada, then you need a 3rd catcher.

                  If you can find a DH who’s a good 3rd string catcher, then great. Maybe Mike PIazza will come out of retirement.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  I’d much rather have a DH and Posada hanging out on the bench, resting and pissing on his hands when Cervelli is starting. No reason to limit options by making him play every day or carrying another crappy catcher. So, we agree that the Yanks should sign a DH then, right? Right?

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  If Matsui can block a pitch in the dirt and throw a runner out at 2nd, I’m all for it.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  You’re doing this to rile people up, aren’t you? You’re very sneaky, oh Artist.

      • ROBTEN

        The problem is that this means that for every game you have a hitter like Cervelli/Pena/Gardner/Hairston type in the line up.

        Matsui (or another DH-type hitter, say a Thome) is better than having Cervelli/Pena/Gardner/Hairston in the line up everyday.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I seriously think Posada will catch about 100 games next year and DH the rest.

        I agree.

        Cervelli plays twice a week.

        Sounds good.

        That’s why I don’t see us signing a DH.

        Wrong. Sign a DH anyway. If Jorge catches 100 games and DH’s the rest, that’s only, what, 40-50 games he DH’s? Because he’s not playing every single day, he’s gonna get some full days off (because he’s a catcher, and an old one at that).

        That still leaves 110-120 non-Jorge the DH man-days to fill. We need a DH for those 110-120 DH man-days.

        A DH like Hazmat, for example, a DH who also does not need to play DH every day.

        • Tom Zig

          Matsui also is old and needs rest. BINGO! We have a fit!

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          I like this plan.

          Call Griardi. Call Cashman. Let them in on it.

          • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

            Oh they probably got it by now.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            Why would we need to call them? They’re probably reading this thread as we speak.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              Oh, of course. My bad.

              All apolgies to Brian and Joe for not giving them enough credit.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Fine, you get this too-

          OK, Posada’s the DH and Cervelli takes a foul tip off his thumb in the 2nd inning and has to leave the game. Posada catches, which means you’ve vacated the DH and the pitcher has to bat in his place, since you’ve used a roster spot on a DH instead of a 3rd Catcher.

          Can’t wait to see Andy check his swing again, like he did his first year in Houston.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I’m not going to be scared by your unlikely doomsday scenarios.

            Should we also sign Adrian Beltre to be our insurance in case ARod’s hip flares up again.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              Yeah, Catchers never get hurt. I’m such a Cassandra.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                The fact remains, the possibility of Jorge getting hurt does not help your “we shouldn’t sign a DH so that we can play Jorge more at DH” argument. It hurts it.

                If Jorge gets hurt, I want Hideki Matsui available to play DH more so we don’t miss his bat as much. If Jorge gets hurt, not having a non-Jorge DH signed under contract does not solve anything.

                I love you, dude, but frankly, this has not been your strongest thread. You’re having an off night.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Fine, I’m gonna go upstairs and fuck your Grandma.

              • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

                No, but you are suggesting that they build their entire roster based on having to play one game NL style. After Jorge, there should be 120 DH games at least. No reason to give all those games to scrubs when you can give them to Matsui caliber bat.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  He only started 88 games at catcher this year. I was being generous saying he’ll catch 100. I don’t think he’ll catch more game at age 39, either.

                  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....t=fielding

                  Mo, you’re forgetting that they want to DH Jeter and Alex some as well. Lets say they DH twice a month each, that’s another 25 games right there.

                  So if you’re arguing we should sign a full time DH to play 75-80 games, I’m sorry but I just disagree.

          • steve (different one)

            so you possibly lose the game and make a roster move after the game. so what?

            you are roping Andy Pettitte’s elbow surgery into the argument as a possible consequence? that seems a little….much

  • Aj

    When the collective bargining agreement ends do you think there will be a worldwide draft? how is that fair to teams like the yankees who spend alot of money on scouting and acadamies down there?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      I don’t doubt for a second that Bud Selig will ask for that, along with other concessions from the MLBPA.

      2011 sounds like a way off, but most economists think we are in a ‘new normal’ which includes lack of access to credit for small businesses, high unemployment and non-existent growth when you subtract the stimulus dollars for as long as they can see. That means business conditions will likely still be soft when the CBA expires, and Bud will be looking for givebacks and will probably get some.

      This is also why I think the Yanks take their payroll DOWN a few notches this off season and next, in anticipation of rules changes. Those changes can include higher Luxury tax rates, lower thresholds for paying them, international draft, hard slotting system, etc, etc. I doubt he’ll get all of that, but whatever he gets will be bad news for the Yanks. They’ll need to get their payroll down now so they don’t have to do anything drastic later. If I had to put a number to it, I’d guess the Yanks come in at 185-190 for 2010 and 175 for 2011. That’s why some of these spending ideas strike me as misguided. Brian Cashman took control of Baseball ops to have this team operate differently than when George was running things. People still don’t seem to get that.

      Hal would have taken payroll down last year, but Cash convinced him there was a unique market opportunity with CC, Tex and AJ. I think the long-rumored downsizing of the Yankee payroll starts this year, in anticipation of rules changes in 2011.

      • ROBTEN

        I wrote about something similar higher in the thread, but I have a slightly different reading.

        While the “new normal” economy might explain some of the reasoning of the changes you outline, I think that this doesn’t fully account for them, although it will be the narrative we hear about the most. I think that the “new normal” economy provides cover for lowering salary, but that the new value-metrics, which are harder to explain, also play a significant role in rethinking contract values. I think that some of these same issues would have emerged regardless of whether there was a weaker economic market; it may just enable owners to do it more quickly.

        • 28 next year

          The only problem with a worldwide draft is that you can’t really include Japanese players so it wouldn’t solve every problem.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            And it only serves to screw the young, talented player. It’s couched in the cushy language of ‘competitive balance’ but all it accomplished is to take money out of the pockets of the players and put it back in the owner’s pockets.

            • ROBTEN

              This.

              “Caps” in salaries or the draft in the name of “competitive balance” are simply an artificial way of keeping salaries low.

              However, I would like to see some kind of structure in place to better monitor what is taking place in Latin America and the Caribbean. Despite the larger bonuses paid to some players, without formalizing the signing of Latin American and Caribbean players, and particularly with little or no union representation available, owners are still able to pay significantly less in salaries to prospects from Latin America and the Caribbean than similar prospects from the US.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    How much could the Tigers get from trading Edwin Jackson? Hopefully he’ll be able to bounce back form his bad second half. But I’m going to assume way too much. Though he would be nice to have.

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      Maybe a package headed by a B prospect? That 2nd half really did him in.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      He’s still cost controlled. I don’t see them trading him anytime soon.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        He’s also not as good as everyone thinks he is. If GMs do their diligence on him, they’ll see this.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Apparently the other expensive contracts the Tigers have are making them consider trading Jackson.

        • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

          I wish we could get Miggy. He’d be an awesome DH for the next ten years.

  • pollo

    Anyone see Scout’s top 50?

    We are stacked. Definitely a top 10 system going into next year.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Linkage?

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Nevermind. I’m not going to pay for that.

  • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

    I’m not in love with Cameron. I just don’t think he’s a great fit for the Yankees–another player who strikes out a lot? Pass. We already have a middle of the order that does it a fair bit.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      But he also walks quite a bit and hits homers quite a bit. He’s Nick Swisher with slightly less power but better defense at a premium position. I think he’s a very good stop-gap fit.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Also doesn’t have a good OBP as Swish but it’s good enough.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          Right, right. He’s Nick Swisher light at the plate, but he’s better on defense than Swish is. He also benefits from playing CF, which bumps up his value.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      Assuming we have a solution for left field, JD, or a big FA, I don’t see us going after Cam.

    • Chris

      I just don’t think he’s a great fit for the Yankees–another player who strikes out a lot?

      I know it seems like the Yankees strike out a lot because they struck out 1014 times this season, but did you know that 26 teams in baseball struck out more times than the Yankees?

      The Yankee hitters had the 4th fewest strikeouts in baseball, and only the Orioles (with 1013 Ks) had fewer in the AL.

      • andrew

        Well NL teams should have more strike outs due to the pitcher getting 3 at bats or so in a game, still impressive though.

  • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

    I was just watching Yankees Classics.

    Kay gave a hearty “He drilled it!” The right fielder then proceeded to catch the ball 15 feet in front of the warning track.

    Kay has managed to annoy me in the offseason. ugh

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      Think of hearing Joe Buck and Tim McCarver or Chip Caray everyday. It makes Kay more bearable.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        I wonder if Buck sounds as disinterested as he does in baseball games in every day life.

        • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

          In a dejected tone

          Buck: I’ll have a Vente Mocha Cappuccino please.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            Does Buck have kids? I can’t imagine him reading them bedtime stories.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            We should get Marv Albert to do Yankee games.

            TEX!!!! WITH AUTHORITY!!!!

            AROD, SENDS IT WAY DOWNTOWN!

            • Steve H

              But then A-Rod and Albert would end up in a hotel with a few strippers, and considering the cell phone cameras today, all hell would break loose.

            • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

              YESSS!!!

            • pat

              BITCH I’M GONNA BITE YOUR BACK!!!!!!!

    • Accent Shallow

      The playoffs made me really miss Michael Kay.

  • Steve H

    I was reading above the lineup possibilities if we sign Cameron. If we do, isn’t Cameron our starting CF, not LF? He loses some of his appeal to me if he’s in LF. I’d like to see them resign Damon short term and sign Cameron (and I guess let Matsui go). That way you can rotate the DH spot a little bit but your extra bat in the lineup would be Melky, not Pena or some other guy without a chance at the plate. That’s also assuming 100+ games from Jorge behind the plate, which I don’t think is an issue.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      All of those lineups have him at center.

      • Steve H
        • Steve H

          This is the one I actually stopped on, was glancing thru the commments and came across this.

        • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

          Oh my bad I was looking at the initial post.

          http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-682901

          Yeah I think most of us would move Cam to Center if he was a Yankee.

          • Steve H

            Yeah, blame The Artist, I’ll just stop reading his posts :)

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              Visionaries like me are always thought of as madmen because we are so far ahead of our time. History will put me in the proper context as the genius I am.

              Just call me the Galileo of Baseball.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Frankie Cervelli is already the Galileo of Baseball.

          • Chris

            I wouldn’t. I would use his plus defense as an asset in LF with Gardbrerra in CF. If we also sign Damon (as a mostly DH), then you can free up the DH slot by shifting Cameron to CF and Damon to LF a few times a week. You get good production plus flexibility.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              But he’s better than Gardbrerra in CF. Why not have him play the premium position?

              • Chris

                I have a feeling (without any evidence to back it up) that Cameron’s going to fall off a cliff defensively soon. It seems to happen very quickly (within ~1 year) that good defensive center fielders become bad defensive center fielders. A couple examples are Andruw Jones, Aaron Rowand, Vernon Wells, Mark Kotsay, and Corey Patterson – but you can basically look at any CF over the time that there are reasonable defensive metrics. They all fall apart at different times but when they start to lose it, it goes quickly.

                • Tom Zig

                  Andruw Jones ate himself into being a bad CFer

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  That’s definitely a fair point, but if the Yankees do sign Cameron, they should wait until that actually happens before moving him to left.

                • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                  AKA continued eating the same shit minus tri-monthly injections.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Yeah. No way he plays left. Melky would move over and suddenly you have plus OF defense.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          But they play for the Yankees. The Yankees always have bad defense. It doesn’t matter who they are, the Yankees are old and slow on defense.

          • Steve H

            And the Sox are a great defensive team, gold glovers all over the diamond. And of course, when a Sox player wins a Gold Glove, it’s legit, but when a Yankee wins a GG it’s just a popularity contest.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      How about Swisher just plays every position. Would that make you happy?

      • Steve H

        Yes and No. I don’t need to explain the Yes vote. I’d vote no because I love baseball so much. You see, if Nick Swisher were to play every position, the Yankees would go 162-0 and every other team would go 0-162 (it makes sense, it really does). I think that just might lead to the end of baseball as we know it.

  • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

    Any of you lovely Xbox 360 folks on here going to pick up the new Left 4 Dead game next week? I can’t wait.

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      Psh MW2 is where it’s at. Though LF2 is pretty cool so far…

      • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

        Nothing wrong w/ MW2 – I didn’t get it yet but loved the previous two in the series. I’m a big fan of the L4D style too … what with the blood splattering and all … it really escalates. Quickly.

        And in the new L4d you’re supposed to be able to chainsaw and also use a frying pan as a weapon. Sounds like some modern warfare and then some. Haha.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Can’t wait, L4D is awesome.

      • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

        Zombie shooters … satisfying. Like a snickers and/or Patrick Chewing.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I’m 99% sure I’m finally getting a PS3 tomorrow. Aside from MW2, what are some games I should check out?

    • Mike Pop

      Rez Evil 5, Skate 2, and Uncharted 2.

    • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

      NHL 10 is where it’s at man. Both online and offline play are ridic.

      • Mike Pop

        True this. NHL 10 is awesome.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          The patch sucks, but it’s an amazing game.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      I’ve never had anything but a PS1. What do you guys think is best: Nintendo, 360 or PS3?

      • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

        I’m biased but I don;t see how you can beat PS3

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          I make pretty good money for my age, but I normally can’t bring myself to spend $400 + $60 games. I then realized that I spend that extra money on stupid shit anyway, and a friend told me I might have more fun with a PS3 or 360 than spending money on stupid women I take advantage of, as well as outfits for my cats.

          So I’m making the leap. Should I buy new or used?

          • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

            I’d say new. Warranty definitely is good for piece of mind and not if a console is a few years old when you buy it …

          • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

            I’d buy new, it’s only around 300. Definitely worth it. Get some NHL 10, maybe Fifa they’re both sick games to play solo, play with friends or play with random people online.

            • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

              Drew, I didn’t play FIFA 10 but I’ve heard good things. I love soccer and hockey – if you had to grab one of the two (FIFA 10 or NHL 10) which would you pick?

              • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                I haven’t played Fifa 10 yet, I still have 09.

                It’s really a toss up. As far as team play, I really love NHL and can play it ad nauseam. If I had to choose, I guess I’d go with NHL.

                • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

                  Thanks Drew, I’m sure I’ll eventually end up with both. Haha.

                • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                  Yeah plus you can always rent from Blockbuster and keep one for 35 days.

      • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

        I grew up Nintendo, then got a PS2 after the N64 … and held out a while but got a 360 instead of the PS3 as so many more of my friends were on the 360. I’ve been really happy and enjoy the variety of games. I’m not in need of the Blu-Ray yet either, and my old launch PS2 still works … plus I love all of the Halo games.

        I’d consider the PS3 for the Metal Gear, just haven’t gotten it yet. I think I’ll be going for the full-on home theater setup first.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          So, you’d choose…?

          • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

            I’d have to say the 360 right this minute. Especially if you get one of the newer consoles that use less power based on the smaller chipset – they generate much less heat which helps them last a lot longer. But I’m sure a PS3 will be great too. Most games are released for both platforms so you’re good to go, either way.

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              Cool. Thanks. Now, the important stuff: Should I get Mr. Nipples (one of the cats) a Batman outfit or a Clown outfit? I’m leaning toward the latter. I’m thinking about bringing him to Chucky Cheese with a rat.

              • http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/A/S/nyc080106_186.jpg Sam P.

                Ha – sounds like hilarity will ensue. Clown, hands down, if only b/c of how pissed he’ll look, which will complete the look of the angry clown.

              • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

                Make that mother fucker roll naked with Kitten Mittens.

                • Steve H

                  IETC.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        It’s personal preference really. I’d go with the 360 but any is fine. Unless you like your shooters and such. Then it’s either PS3 or 360.

        Honestly the only shooter exclusive on there that I like is MGS4…

        But if your not into that sort of thing then you do whatever you want.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Nah, not a fan of shooters. I like strategy games and sport games. That’s generally it. Thanks, man.

  • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

    Good piece on mlbtr.
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....-wang.html

    It’s interesting that Wang thinks he’ll be ready to pitch pre-May.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Nice find

      Sherman (via Twitter) reported that Alan Nero, Wang’s agent, said that Wang was given the green light by Dr. James Andrews to start throwing by December 15 and that Wang may be able to pitch again by as early as the middle of April. In a follow-up tweet, Sherman noted that Yankee doctors have yet to examine Wang themselves.

      • Chris

        If there’s even a slim chance that he could be pitching in April, then I think it’s a no-brainer to bring him back next year.

        • pete

          depends on what it costs. i’m not giving him a major league deal for anything other than league minimum with a minor league option until i know he can be better than what he was last year.

          • http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/04/melky_cabrera_cant_believe_it_phixr.png Drew

            Eh, I’d give him more than the minimum. He will be better than he was this year. That’s not saying much but I want him back. He’s a great pitcher.

          • Chris

            Brad Penny and John Smoltz both got roughly $5M coming off shoulder injuries. That seems to be the going rate for such pitchers, and happens to match roughly what Wang would get in arbitration.

  • Tom Zig

    I still think it’s BS that K-Rod won the 2008 Relief Man of the year award. Mo had him beat in every category except that dumb Save category.