Open Thread: The greatest Nike ad ever

First season a success for Yankee Stadium Metro-North stop
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We Have The Yankees

You may have seen that one yesterday, but it’s worth seeing again.

Here’s your open thread for the night. The Devils, Islanders, Nets, and Knicks are all in action tonight, plus there’s a new South Park. Talk about whatever you want, just be cool.

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  • Salty Buggah

    Mo needs a dance.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      So does Coney.

      • Salty Buggah

        True

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          Coney would just change his dance every night.

  • brockdc

    My fiancee won’t be too thrilled when I have this matted and framed for the bedroom. Nike just needs to change “its” to “it’s.”

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Maybe they somehow meant that the 105° temperature belongs to August.

      • brockdc

        They biffed on the penultimate line, too. No matter, though. The only way I wouldn’t purchase this as a poster (and I have no idea if it’s even for sale), is if “Yankees” were misspelled.

        Or if Mo didn’t have the halo, as that would be tantamount to blasphemy.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Seriously, though:

          Nike practically owns the University of Oregon. The University of Oregon has a large and fairly well respected English department.

          Is there nobody in Eugene who could have told them how to use an apostrophe?

          • mf

            I think they’re just ignoring punctuation marks altogether for aesthetic purposes.

            I have no defense, however, for the clunkiness that is:
            “when making a blockbuster movie blocks the sidewalk”

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              8.2 Million

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Responding to:

                I think they’re just ignoring punctuation marks altogether for aesthetic purposes.

                • mf

                  Ah, good point. Although that’s the one punctuation mark they really couldn’t leave out (can’t just put 82 million, and 8200000 just doesn’t look right).

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Just round it to 8 million then if you’re avoiding punctuation.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Yup.

                • ROBTEN

                  Maybe someone should send this to Nike.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Yay no significant inning limits for Hughes and obviously Joba next year.

    Again, Cashman stressed that nothing is set in stone until he meets with his pro scouts, but it seems a good bet that the two young right handers will at least enter spring training as rotation candidates. Any innings limits, Cashman said, would not be significant.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....n-relieve/

  • Yankeegirl49

    I am having it framed as well! Best ad EVER!

  • dkidd

    gm’s (not suprisingly) say the market for lackey/bay/holliday will be limited

    in a hypothetical world where boras is forced to respond to contracted economy, what’s an amount of money/years that would make holliday worth signing? 4/70?

    • vin

      Worth signing for the Yanks? 4/70 sounds about right to me. Maybe Boras can squeeze 4/75 out of Cashman if Damon already signed elsewhere and Matsui retired from MLB.

      But your comment about the hypothetical world with the contracted economy leads me to think you are asking what is Holliday REALLY worth. That’s a different story, that I’m sure someone else can figure out. I would think the approach is to apply a dollar value to win shares/WAR or something like that.

      • ROBTEN

        According to fangraphs, teams paid $4.5 million per win in 2008:

        http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....d-part-six

        Holliday, over his career, has been worth roughly 4.8 WAR. This would mean $21.6 million per.

        However, if we look at recent performance, fangraphs has him at $25.5 million per over the past four years (and $19.7 over his career).

        Even if we take into account the current contractions in the free agent market, I can’t see Holliday accepting $17.5.

  • brockdc

    Also missing from this poster:

    -When the Knicks acquire yet another shoot-first point guard
    -When the Jets start out 6-1 and fail to make the playoffs
    -When the Mets sign Kyle Lohse to a 5-year contract

    Am I missing anything?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      When the Omar Minaya goes for more offense over pitching.

      • Free Mike Vick

        When Omar Minya tries to sign EVERY Latin Player on the planet.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          -When the Mets attempt to play baseball

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            They were attempting to play baseball?

            Wow, and this whole season I thought they were putting on a vaudeville comedy act.

            Well, looked at from that perspective, they keep you entertained.

        • Jordan

          When Omar Minaya signs Matsui to play LF and re-energize the offense and Rich Harden to shore up the rotation…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      -When the Nets name their arena after a shitty hipster douchebag clothing company
      -When you think Eli’s turned a corner (again) and it turns out that no, he hasn’t (again)
      -When hockey is the only thing on

      • brockdc

        -When Yankee fans start shouting, less than 1 week after winning a World Championship, “What’s Cashman waiting for!!!1″
        -When there’s more Starbucks than Ray’s

    • Thomas

      When the Islanders offer their goalie a 15 year contract.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      When Michael Kay talks about the fallacy of the predetermined outcome.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        When Mike Francesa talks

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      When people don’t respond to my email.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      When the terriosts are winning

      • Thomas

        I don’t think anyone can top that, so http://tinyurl.com/yzlltwu (safe).

      • vin

        Too soon.

      • Free Mike Vick

        When our President wins an award he is not deserving of.

        http://cache0.techcrunch.com/w...../nobel.gif (safe)

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I would like it noted that I used the word “terriosts” and not the word “terrorists”. I did not inject politics into this.

          I want that noted for the record.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            It’s like a dog gone insane planting bombs everywhere.

          • Tom Zig

            The terriosts winning is an inside-RAB joke…not politics.

          • Free Mike Vick

            ::Noted that it was not political::

    • Klemy

      When Omar Minaya still has a job

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    I’m having this poster bronzed. Right next to Mo’s baby shoes.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      FACT: Mo’s baby shoes were made of other babies.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        FACT: Mo ate his twin brother in the womb.

        Mateo Rivera would have been the greatest CF in the history of baseball.

        • Ghost of Scott Brosius

          i lold so much you have no idea. +42 +an additional 42

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Getting it ‘bronzed’? Could be worse, this guy-

      http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-684167

      …is hanging it over his fiancee’s bed. Which means his poster will be getting ‘glazed’.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        We now call that ‘centaured’.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Gives me the creeps, in all honesty.

          I love the Yanks as much as the next guy, but sheesh.

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            I believe that story about as much as I do the one my father tells about him being descended from African royalty.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              That reminds me, your dad never gave me that money he said he was going to when I set up that bank account for him. In fact, he took some of my money and ruined my credit.

              I’m sure this is all a big misunderstanding. If you could have him, or his regent who runs the princedom while he’s not around, get back to me ASAP, that would be great.

              • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                You think you’ve got it tough on a misunderstanding?

                My dowry turned out to be manure painted gold.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  IETCVM

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      I stole a child’s shoe off his foot while bonked out on magic mushrooms. Oh college, how I miss thee.

  • Johnnyboy

    People say that Mauer staying on the Twins is “good” for baseball. But people seem to forget what the player himself wants. He has already said that he wants to win. and honestly, I don’t see the Twins winning any championship anytime soon with all these FA’s hitting the market and big market teams opening their wallet for said FA’s. People might try to argue that the Twins made it to the playoffs this year without one of their best hitters so they would have has a better chance but how’d they do in the playoffs? They went 0 – 3 against the best team in baseball. Let’s say the Twins and the best team in baseball(Yankees) meet in the playoffs again. Will their #2 starter and Morneau really make a big enough of a difference? They still went 0 – 7 in the regular season with Morneau. Don’t get me wrong. It would be awesome for all of baseball and Minnesota if Mauer stayed, but does anybody really see the Twins making it to the playoffs AND winning it all? Much people wont. So my question is, why should Mauer suffer for the sake of apparently “saving baseball”?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      I don’t see the Twins winning any championship anytime soon

      He’s a hometown boy, they’re moving into a new ballpark and will reportedly take payroll up to 100 mil once they move in. Given how they operate, they can win with that budget. They’ll need a little luck, but who doesn’t?

    • vin

      Look at the Tigers. They were going nowhere fast for about 15 years. Then they got a new ballpark, started adding some pieces and they ended up in the WS in ’06 (one they probably should’ve won). Everyone was on their bandwagon prior to the ’08 season, and they should’ve been in the playoffs this year.

      I think the Twins will readjust their business model after the new ballpark opens. They’ll be able to sell the Twins “brand” much more than they could in the old/stale Metrodome. There are a lot of Twins fans throughout this country for various reasons. And the people in MN are tremendously supportive.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Doing a live chat on the blog here!

    Chat starts in four minutes, you know wanna be there

  • Accent Shallow

    The Devils, Islanders, Nets, and Knicks are all in action tonight, plus there’s a new South Park.

    A bunch of stuff I don’t care about is happening tonight.

    What an incredible ad.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      It is.

      It truly is the greatest Nike ad ever. Which, of course, is almost as good as the greatest Converse ad ever:
      http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivaul.....ndmama.jpg

      • brockdc

        (Cue Lumberg)

        Yeeeaaah…I’m going to have to go ahead and…disagree.

        http://gothamist.com/attachmen.....-thumb.jpg

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Heh.

        • ROBTEN

          Yeah, but this is the most feared ad of its generation.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            It’s so feared, hotlinking to it is apparently blocked.

            • ROBTEN

              Let’s try that again…

              Yeah, but THIS is the most feared ad of its generation.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                (golf clap)

                I’m gonna need a new pair of underwear, and a wet wipe.

  • sabes

    I know some of the people who worked on that ad. Very cool to see it.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      At the risk of being snarky, and out of genuine curiosity, how many people did it take to make that ad?

      It’s a picture of Mo, and it’s 15 fairly banal Sienfeldesque observations. If it took more than 3 people sitting around a table having lunch, that’s kinda crazy.

      • brockdc

        Actually, it’s not snarky observation at all.

        INT. NIKE CONFERENCE ROOM – DAY (HOUR 14)

        “Hey, guys, wait: I think I’ve finally come up with Line 7!”
        “REALLY? Don’t keep it to yourself! Tell us!”
        “Okay, here goes: “When a blockbuster blocks the sidewalk.”
        (silence, then)
        “Oh my GOD: You’ve cracked it wide open!”

        • brockdc

          With that said, I’m still buying it.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    The greatest L.A. Gear ad ever:

    http://goodcolors.files.wordpr.....agear1.jpg

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Greatest ad of all time

      http://ae.theadvanceguard.com/artist_header.jpg

      LOVE!! LOVE, I TELL YOU!!!

      • Salty Buggah

        Haha. “Check her out at AE.com”

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Funny, I didn’t imagine you as a sexy female brunette.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Chicks dig the long ball.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      Wearing L.A. Gear shoes will give you leukemia.

      /Jumping to bad conclusions’d

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Yankees GM Brian Cashman told Nightengale he didn’t sit down with a single agent. Seems kind of weird.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....nkees.html

    Not to me. I expect a quiet off season, and a lower payroll next year. Both of those seem inconceivable to many Yankee fans and Yankee haters, but knowing what I know about Brian Cashman, I don’t see him making an big splashes this off season.

    • brockdc

      I’d be so completely cool with them signing Pettite for 2, Damon for 1+, and acquiring a high-risk, high-upside SP for 70 cents on the dollar.

    • vin

      Not surprising to me either… considering they haven’t had their organizational meetings yet. That’s how/where Cashman strategizes. He’s been saying the last 3 days that he’s waiting for those meetings before pursuing anything.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        They could be laying low, but the FA market doesn’t have any real no-brainers at a position of need this year, or none that make enough sense both now and long term. I just don’t see it. As Joe posted earlier today, sometimes you’re better off taking a pass.

        The trade market is more interesting, but Cash tends to prefer to develop from within and sign the slam dunk free agent types. But Granderson is one guy you’ll have to look long and hard at.

        • LI Kevin

          TWSS

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Doesn’t Yankee fans and Yankee haters encompass everybody?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        No, there are 6 people in a small village in Guam and a couple in Siam who have never heard of the Yankees.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          I’m sure if they knew about them they’d pick a side.

          With the Yankees there’s no middle ground.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
    • Chris

      He can only talk to free agents of players on the Yankees – so it would primarily be Damon, Matsui and Pettitte. I would be surprised if he had official talks with any agents.

  • LosingOurHeads

    where can you get this? at the Nike store on (57?)th street?

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    To spark discussion, I am going to post a controversial, borderline insane comment about the Yankees, and you will debate. It will be intentionally vague. So:

    The Yankees should trade for Roy Halladay, if for no other reason but to keep him off the Sox, but also because he’s awesome.

    Discuss.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Fine. I’ll see your post, and raise you this!

      http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....s-montero/

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        I said BORDERLINE insane. No need to go the whole way.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Hey come on, he’s too big to catch.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            FACT: Jesus Montero is 7’3, 340lbs, and one of his legs is a full 10 inches shorter than the other. He simply cannot catch at the big league level. FACT.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              IETC

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            He’s gonna be great, until the playoffs when homeplate umpires tell Girardi they can’t see anything due to Montero’s girth.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              That’s actually not crazy. We saw an umpire have trouble calling low strikes because of a Catcher during ALCS. Think it was Napoli behind the plate.

              • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                That’s what I was referring to in my comment.

                I wonder if that happens more often than we know and it only got attention due to FOX replaying the conversation between the ump and the greatest manager ever.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Yep, I wondered the same thing and thought of Montero as it was happening. There’s a bunch of big catchers these days (Mauer, Pierzynski, Wieters) and that’s the first I’ve heard of it. Could have just been that particular ump.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Pete Abe did the same thing.
        http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....-halladay/
        Batshit insane then and even more batshit insane now.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Discuss.

      … No.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        You’re just no fun.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          If it makes you feel any better, that answer is both my response to your request to discuss trading for Halladay, and my actual opinion on whether or not we should trade for Halladay.

          So, I’m playing along and not playing along simultaneously. I’m like Nick Swisher: I can kill two stones with one bird.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Nick Swisher doesn’t need range in the OF. The ball, like single women, is attractd to him.

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      The Yankees should trade for all excellent baseball players because it’s no fair letting most of them go throughout life without a ring.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Let’s sign Don Mattingly again. We don’t even have to play him, I just want him on the active roster next year.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          I want Mussina in the bullpen.

          Remember the bulldog mentality he brought with him in relief in the 2003 ALCS? We need that again, especially if the Yankees are foolish enough to put Hughes in the starting rotation.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          JINX!!!!!

          I am totally convinced that him and Mike Mussina are the two sole reasons we haven’t won from 01′ to this year.

          They leave and BAM! Championship.

          As it turns out, it’s NOT all A-Rod’s fault. His jnx must’ve worn off or something, or perhaps he had no jinx, he was just on shitty teams and we thought he was jinxed since Mike Mussina and Mattingly were?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Who let this jinx-believing Boston idiot in here?

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              It’s all FACT TSJC. Let’s think:

              . Every year Mattingly played for the Yankees, we never won the WS. Unless I’m mistaken, we made the playoffs ONCE, back in 95′.

              . Year he leaves, BAM! World Series Championship. Four in five years. Blowjobs for all.
              . Mike Mussina joins team in 01′. Party stops. Blowjobs end.
              . Somewhere in this time period Mattingly becomes bech coach (forget the year), we still don’t win.
              . Both leave, BAM! World Series.

              Therefore, I have SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that Mattingly and Moose are jinxes. Thank you.

              • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                Oh shit, I can’t argue with science.

                http://origin.arstechnica.com/.....dia/69.jpg

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Well, I laughed…

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Yeah, but you wrote it.

                  That’s a low bar to clear…

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Two other commenters made spinoff jokes.

                  Come on man, throw a dog a bone here.

              • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    • Signing both Damon and Matsui would finalize the Yankees significant free agent position player signings. “If I did that I wouldn’t have room for anybody else unless I made trades,” Cashman said. To me, that suggests the Yankees are not considering replacing Xavier Nady. They would likely go into spring training with Nick Swisher as the everyday right fielder, which seems to be neither a bad thing nor a surprising thing.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....-meetings/

    Sounds like it’s one or the other, and since Matsui can’t play left and we need a LF that narrows things down a bit.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      So only Damon?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        . .and everybody called me crazy last night.

        GALILEO! GALILEO! GALILEO! GALILEO! Let me go-oh-oh-ohhhhhhh!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          We weren’t calling you crazy for that. We were calling you crazy for the actually crazy, non-Johnny-Damon-related bullshit you were slinging.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Right, the stuff about Matsui being history.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yeah, but I wanted to dump Matsui last year to get Adam Dunn or Manny Ramirez.

              You want to dump Matsui this year to get… nobody.

              Your crazy is way crazier than my crazy.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                GALILEO!

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  You’re thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisclose to being excommunicated.

                  Sincerely,
                  Ryan Pope

        • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

          I fail to see where Cashman said no DH and they are inserting a rotating DH plan instead.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Me too. That article only says, “If I [signed both Damon and Matsui] I wouldn’t have room for anybody else unless I made trades.”

            He doesn’t say that that eventuality is bad or undesirable at all. Nor did it say that he does not want to sign two OF/DH bats in some capacity or another.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              You could infer that he’s considering some trades, and therefore cant sign both.

              Or that he’s simply saying that if he does sign both, he’s done for the off season.

              It would help if we had the question, to put it in some context. But we don’t.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            I hope they don’t do that. I really hope they don’t do that.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      I hope they get Matsui and Damon and then finalize their FA position player signings. They don’t need anybody else.

      After much, much thought, I think I do hope they sing both.

      The best plan B is to sign Damon and Cameron.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      We also need a DH. I don’t think it narrows anything down at all.

    • Marcus

      I interpreted Cashman as saying: if we signed both Damon and Matsui, the team is full/complete. He wasn’t really giving an indication of what the chances were of that happening (signing them both). I wish they would post the question as well, kind of leaves it ambiguous.

  • daneptizl

    Nova over Hagadone?

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    I’ve given up hope in Yankee fans in MLBTR. It’s unfathomable to think that these people completely disregard what Cashmoney plans to do then insisting contradicting and often illogical plans.

    • Teix is the Man

      Like what?

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        JOBA IS THE NEXT MO!!!! CASHMAN U R TEH SUXOR!

        • Teix is the Man

          Ah, I thought you were talking about the trade x and y for roy halladay bullshit

          • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

            Oh haven’t seen that this offseason … yet.

            • Teix is the Man

              Haha it should be fun

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      You mean were NOT getting Halladay, King Felix and Matt Holiday this off season? WTF gives, man?

      You can either laugh or cry. Laughing is easier, more fun, and always remember this quote from Mark Twain-

      “Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.”

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I’ve never once read any of the comments at MLBTR. I’m totally confident I’m not missing any useful information or fresh perspectives.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          I did a few times, and quickly realized its worse than LoHud.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            The only thing dumber than an agglomeration of Yankee fans is an agglomeration of fans of all 30 teams.

            • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

              What about an agglomeration of Red Sox fans?
              Example: http://www.survivinggrady.com/

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              I know ‘agglomeration’ is a word, but it really shouldn’t be. It’s like ‘Conurbation’, it just strikes me as gibberish. I’ve been known to storm out of a room when they’re used on the same sentence.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                I don’t know why, they’ve both perfectly cromulent words.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        “Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.”

        Except Nick Swisher.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I don’t read the comments anywhere but here, occasionally LoHud, and my own site. Helps keep the sanity.

    • Accent Shallow

      MLBTR is absolutely invaluable as a clearinghouse of information and links. As a place for analysis, it’s not essential (despite out three benevolent hosts all having written there at one point). As a place for interesting discussion with perspective in the comments, it’s completely worthless.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Yeah agreed. It’s a pretty good site until the comments.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        +1

      • Klemy

        That ste is how I originally found this one. So +1

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Why would you ever read the comments on that site?

  • Michael

    I know it’s early but does anyone know when/if/where this could be found for sale?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
      • Esteban

        Well, do you have a map of how to get there?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
          • Esteban

            Where is this ‘store’ you speak of? I’m vaguely familiar with the concept, but I’m not sure of its exact location.

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            Hate to bother you again but do you know what currency they accept?

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Oh and how in the fuck did Chase Utley once again get robbed of a Gold Glove? I hate this award more with each passing minute.

    • Accent Shallow

      Pre-WS, I talked Utley up as a great player who’s incredibly underrated. Post-WS, I’m not sure if I can do that anymore.

      (Who am I kidding, the Yankees won, of course I can)

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Hehe, I used to have a man crush on Utley, now I don’t.

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      Because the voters only use their memory to vote. Psh stats.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Even by memory Utley should get it.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Their most recent memory is of Utley throwing two balls in the playoffs. Therefore that proves SCIENTIFICALLY that he’s a bad second baseman. It’s SCIENTIFICAL.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            Voting’s in before the playoffs.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              In that case, they’re just stupid.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Yup. Always have been.

                Sincerely,
                People who only watch relatively small amounts of baseball with their own two eyes and think that that is sufficient

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  You know what sucks, though? The managers and coaches vote now, but the writers wouldn’t be any better would they?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  How about this? Abolish the goddamn awards. The writers don’t get it right, the managers and coaches don’t get it right, and because of that, the awards are losing their relevance.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  No? No one likes this idea? Well you can all go to hell.

      • Esteban

        You know baseball is not only about stats. There’s a rhythm and a flow and you need your eyes to see it.
        /DBHOF’d

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          “Cash, never forget that the game has a heartbeat. Therefore, we should ignore statistics that prove he’s a less vluable player than several other choices and resign Bernie Williams. And if your plan doesn’t work out, I’ll write a book where I specifically state that I knew I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG. Because, let’s face it, fans like me more than you.”

          -Joe Torre

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            *golf clap*

            You forgot the part where he storms off to the west coast and finds himself in a worse ownership situation 2 years later.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              “Ted Lilly for Jeff Weaver is a great trade!”

              -Joe Torre

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Hudson, Rollins, and Victorino?

        HUDSON, ROLLINS, AND VICTORINO?

        MULTIPLE INTERROBANGS??!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          No Pujols.
          No Nyjer Morgan.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            No Mike Cameron.
            No Jayson Werth.
            No Justin Upton.
            No Rafael Furcal.
            No Ryan Theriot.
            No Clint Barmes.
            No Freddy Sanchez.

            • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

              No Greg Maddux.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              No Nick Swisher.

              • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

                Ummm, Swisher was on the Yankees all season, in the AL. ZOMG ur so dum!!!!!!!!!!!!

                • Steve H

                  And he’s a terrible fielder. Remember that time he made 2 bad plays in one week? I do, saw it with my own eyes. Ignoring everything else I saw, he’s horrible out there.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  And I don’t care what you Oregon Trail playing nerds have to say. I’m right, and you’re wrong. The fact that I can’t back up my rightness with any shred of evidence is irrelevant. I watch the game. You’re just creepy and effeminate.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  That’s just pure DBHOF right there.

                • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

                  Whatever happened to him? Think he took another handle, or would we have noticed?

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  I think he just faded away.

                • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

                  You seem to know a lot about him, Matt.

                  Or should I say, DBHOF???!!!!???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

                  The jig is up, DBHOF. You thought you could just blend in, huh??? Well, your secret has been uncovered.

                  You can’t handle the truth!!!!!!

                • Steve H

                  Oh no, he’s back, and the same as ever…..

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              No Jim Thome.

              • Steve H

                No Edinson Volquez.

  • Kered Retej

    Seriously, is there someplace a poster of this ad can be purchased (especially for those of us on the west coast)?

  • Hey ZZ

    I am late on this Curtis Granderson thing, but I wanted to add two things.

    While it would seem costly that you are giving up prospects and at the same paying for Granderson, in the long run I think the Yankees would actually end up with a lower payroll. If the Yankees do not get Granderson I think they are going to go after Crawford next year, and that is not going to come cheap. With Granderson in the mix I do not see that happening.

    Also, on that note it also benefits the goal of getting younger and more athletic. You do not get younger and more athletic by tying yourself into long term contracts. I assume Crawford would command a contract into his mid-30s.

    Montero, Hughes, Joba would be the only untouchables for me.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Yes, but I’d still rather overpay for Crawford and keep all my prospects than trade for Granderson and lose some of my prospects.

      • Arman Tamzarian

        Think about it in a similar manner to the CC/Santana situation

      • Hey ZZ

        But the cost difference is quite substantial as compared to Johan v. ZZ. Crawford is probably going to cost at least $15 million. You would have Granderson in his prime years + Damon/Matsui for the same price if not less than Crawford. This is not as simple as the Johan CC debate

        • Arman Tamzarian

          No, but the talent you have to give up to get him, which will be substantial, provides a relative frame work.

        • Hey ZZ

          In addition to the fact that Johan and ZZ were going to command the same amount of years while Granderson is already locked in to a short term contract. Also, Hughes was a much bigger prospect that Jackson is. In fact, thinking about it this is not at all like CC johan

          • Arman Tamzarian

            We dont have any idea what it would take to get Granderson, if this is about cutting payroll, their not going to give him away without receiving significant talent in return

            • Hey ZZ

              I said in my original post Joba, Hughes, Montero are deal breakers for me. No one else in the Yankee system is on the Hughes-level scale circa Johan Santana on the trade block.

  • Esteban

    Annnndd Bud Selig is a moron who sees “no reason” to consider adding more instant replay to baseball. I mean, who doesn’t love seeing umpires get calls wrong? It’s part of the game!
    http://deadspin.com/5402278/yo.....st-century

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      The human element is part of the game! Since umpires are human, it’s okay to get calls wrong even though technology has developed enough to make it a nonfactor!

      SCIENCE.

    • Accent Shallow

      As long as they fix the umpiring process, replay might not be necessary. The playoffs featured some flat awful umpiring, and that sort of thing can hopefully be corrected without the implementation of replay.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Since Boras brought it up

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....-teixeira/

    Holliday vs Tex. Good read.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I feel like Fangraphs is missing the more basic and obvious explanation for why Holliday’s BABIP driven production is higher and unsustainable:

      He plays in Coors. Coors is a BABIP haven. Big park where singles and doubles fall in.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Are you trying to tell me New Yankee Stadium is NOT Coors Field East?

        Gasp. My mind, it is blown.

      • ROBTEN

        True, but it was .341 last year split between Oakland (.315) and St. Louis (.380), which is not dramatically different than his career .351

        I expect if he played somewhere other than Oakland, his BABIP would have been higher last year.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        That, and hitting in front of Albert Pujols can’t hurt either.

        Someone is going to give Holliday huge $ this off season, expect him to be ‘The Man’ and will be horribly disappointed like Oakland was.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          I thought the Cards put Holliday in behind Pujols?

          Anyway, I agree. Holliday is not the star fielder/hitter he’s been billed as.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            You’re right, Pujols bats 3rd. I don’t watch many Cards games.

        • Steve H

          I would have liked to seen him in the AL for a full year. April is his worst month historically, and it was again this year. With the A’s he ops’d .872/.814/.986 in May/June/July. His great numbers in St. Louis may have just been a progression (with a bump for the league change), but he wasn’t nearly as bad in Oakland as we all remember.

          From May on, with Oakland, he hit .299/.384/.480 in a hitters park.

          • Steve H

            ehhh……pitchers park.

          • ROBTEN

            The problem is that Holliday is a very good player, but not worth the $20-23 million that Boras is expecting.

            The truth is that Coors does play a role in inflating his numbers. I don’t have time to manually factor out last season, so this does include Oakland and St. Louis, but:

            at home: .351/.420/.632/BABIP .357

            on the road: .284/.353/.454/BABIP.325

            In other words, still a good hitter, but he does not have the power he had in Coors, nor does he get on base at nearly the same rate. [Compared to Tex, who is relatively consistent in his home/away splits.]

            In this sense, I think that fangraphs is right to raise questions about whether Tex’s ISO is a more effective measure than Holliday’s BABIP in terms of the true value of the contract going forward.

            I think that Holliday will still be a very good hitter going forward, just not at the current projected value.

            [Although, as I posted earlier tonight, fangraphs does calculate Holliday’s value at roughly $20 million annually over his career.]

  • Señor A. Boy

    Where was this ad?

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    I think tapas bars are kick ass. Like the world needs more salted cured meats.

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Shouldn’t we all friend him to show him some support?

    http://www.new.facebook.com/pr.....1213378217

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Yes, I feel bad for the guy.

      http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....th-6.shtml

      Ouch. So much for the feel-good story for the boy from Compton.

      • Steve H

        Ugggh, I looked at his OPS and one thing came to mind from the discussions today…..Granderson against LHP.

    • Accent Shallow

      He’s about to be 20, still plenty of time for him to get his shit together.

      Of course, according to you, he’s a fat slob, so maybe that’s what he’d have to change first.

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        On second thought, “fat slob” may have been a bit harsh. Let’s just say he needs to work on his fitness a little more.

        • Accent Shallow

          Hey, I’m paraphrasing, don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth.

          I sure hope he succeeds, and if he doesn’t, that either a) the Yankees were able to trade him for something useful, and b) he spent that bonus wisely

  • Arman Tamzarian

    I’d like to take a moment to thank Jason Varitek for supporting the Yankees and the rest of the AL east. Nice work Jay

    http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=4645648

    • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

      I would also like to thank everyone involved in following the team because the majority of you want him to start for his impressive leadership skills which unfortunately don’t stop him from being an instant out. Or stopping people from running wherever they choose.

  • Accent Shallow

    http://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/5637982698

    In re: RAB twitter, if we’re associating our players with Greek mythology, who are the companions of Ares?

    (Phobos and Deimos, or Fear and Terror, for those of you who are not up on your Bulfinch’s)

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I’m so glad I’m not the only dorky one who connects those two.

    • Tom Zig

      Fear: Bernie Williams
      Terror: Nick Swisher

  • pete

    speaking of awesome ads, has anyone else noticed that levi’s has been running a commercial recently that is just waaaaaayyyyyy to badass for jeans? i mean seriously i’d call it the best ad ever but it’s JEANS.

  • donttradecano

    TSJC

    Thoughts on tony douglas?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Toney Douglas?

      I like him. I think all four of our youngsters (Douglas, Hill, Chandler, Gallinari) are progressing nicely. None of them are true stars, but Chandler and Hill are good enough to start (on a Lebron-centric team, of course) and Douglas and Gallinari are good enough to be quality 6th/7th men.

  • Matt k

    Where can I get this ??

  • bonestock94

    Seriously where can we get a poster of this ad. Especially if we’re not in NYC.

    • Matt k

      Iam making a poster of it on posterburner.com

  • bob b.

    The It’s was bothering me too, so I popped it into an image editor and fixed it. If this is against copyright laws, I apologize and please take it down.

    http://img22.imageshack.us/img.....eesits.jpg

  • The Evil Empire

    http://nomaas.org/?p=275

    So what do you guys thinks?

    Hypothetically speaking where will Matt bat?

    Matt
    A Rod
    Teix

    Teix
    A Rod
    Matt

    Matt
    Teix
    A Rod

    Let me dream a little

  • Ryan

    I wonder if I could get this in poster form somehow…

  • larryf

    ” when McCarver calls Brett Gardner the best bunter in baseball” or just the AL…..

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