Nov
03

Open thread: World Series bling

By Mike Axisa

1996 World Series ring

People still say bling, right? Okay, good.

Anyway, longtime reader Sam P. sent along a link to the unoriginally named World Series Rings site, which, as you may have guessed, features all of the World Series rings dating back to 1922. They’ve got the 1996 ring you see above, plus 1998, 1999, pretty much all of ‘em. It’s amazing how ugly some of them are, like the 1973 A’s or the 1997 Marlins. Not to upset the natives, but the 2004 Red Sox ring is one mighty fine piece of jewelry.

That site is a great way to kill some time, so thanks to Sam for tipping us off.

Once you’re done perusing the rings, feel free to use this as your open thread. There’s no baseball or football tonight, obviously, and the only local team in action are the Rangers, who don’t play until 10pm ET because they’re out in Vancouver. Talk about whatever you want, just make sure you follow the guidelines and be cool.

Posted on Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm in Open Thread.

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radnom says:

Holy shit.

Don’t jinx it.

Jinxes, hexes, and curses are the dominion of the mentally weak.

radnom says:

Human nature biotch.

We are conditioned this way for a reason.

Anything that is learned can be unlearned.

Tom Zig says:

only if you drink enough

JMK aka The Overshare says:

And here’s my cue. Therapy and good Scotch can do wonders.

 
 
radnom says:

Not learned. Hardwired.

Why this was beneficial to us at some point over the last 20 thousand years? I have no idea.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

It was necessary to keep from total insanity. Being a little insane stops you from going the whole way.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Also, it conditions people not to hope too much ,and thus help us avoid intense disappointment and misery-true insanity.

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Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

20,000 years? What the hell are you talking about?

/Carl Everett’d

 
Frigidevil says:

We like to believe that everything is in our control, because it’s easier for us to take credit for or blame something on an outside fact that WE can control, rather than how our team plays their game. Basically, if we feel like we have control, it makes us feel less helpless in the situation, which we pretty much are. (unless you’re going to the game of course
/psychobabble

 
 
 
 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

But what about spells, charms, and enchantments?

Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

As with the Quidditch World Cup, entirely real.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Hey, don’t laugh. In certain colleges, Quidditch is a sport.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

I saw it played at Middlebury once. It was worse than hockey.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

I LIKE Hockey.

Quidditch: The sport of the future

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Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

I’m sure if I were in college still, I would be all on it. :(

JMK aka The Overshare says:

If they could fly, that would be one thing. It was a poor combination of handball and polo. I would have even settled for a pony on a stick. Also, it greatly upset Jesus. That’s very important. Do not piss off The Jesus with your sorcery. He frowns upon those shenanigans.

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Tom Zig says:

jinxing it would be putting up the 2009 WS ring.

radnom says:

Haha honestly thats what I thought it was at first. I load up the page and BAM huge WS ring right in the face.

 
 
 

People still say bling, right?

No.

radnom says:

Some of us still do, dawg.

 

People also no longer say “dawg”.

radnom says:

If you say so, son.

 
Tom Zig says:

do they still call stereos “boom boxes”?

Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

You are one jive turkey, Tom Zig. Dig?

Tom Zig says:
 

Tightened that bad sucka side the runway like a mutha…

…shiiiiiiiiiiiit.

Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

Hey, you know what they say, “See a broad to get dat booty yak ‘em…

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LAY EM DOWN AND SMACK EM YAK EM!!!

Cold got to be!

 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

Are these references current (rendering me ignorant to modern pop culture) or of the past?

I can’t figure this out.

 
Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

Y’know? Shiiiit.

 
 
Greg G. says:

I know these references!!! What a relief. Sometimes it’s so hard to keep up with these Open Threads.

 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

Gotcha. Before my time, and despite it being a supposed classic, I’ve never seen it. I’ll check it out sometime soon.

 
Joe S. says:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Not to upset the natives, but the 2004 Red Sox ring is one mighty fine piece of jewelry…

… FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Maturity, thy name is tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside.

I’m just a big Robert Smigel fan.

Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

I can only assume they used Lenny Dykstra’s 1993 Phillies runner up ring because of the following two reasons:

1) Dykstra took a photo of his ring, so he could claim in on insurance as destroyed in a fire (after actually pawning it)
2) John Kruk’s ring was unavailable, since he ate it

JMK aka The Overshare says:

You missed a good opportunity for a Kurk armed robbery joke. A shame.

Pssssh, anybody can get robbed. It takes a special kind of pathetic to be fat, slovenly, and unkempt.

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JMK aka The Overshare says:

Not true at all. In most places in America, Kruk would not be special in any way, spare his former ability to hit a ball with a bat. His higher-level reasoning skills, his weight, his slovenly and unkempt appearance are all very much in line with the average Wal-Mar’ican. He’d fit in perfectly.

There is nothing special about his brand of pathetic, it’s rather common. But living with an armed robber? Way less common.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
ShuutoHeat says:

Triumph is that you!?

 
 

I remember seeing the 1998 ring on Willie’s finger while getting an autograph from him at the Westchester County Center and thinking “Holy crap that thing is huge!”

JobaJr says:

That’s what she said!

 
 
Sam P. says:

Hey! Thanks for sharing that link to the general public. Some cool designs there. I thought the 1953 “Five in a row” was a neat Yankee one.

I like the 1996 one best since it was their first WS win that I remember (I was a freshman in college that fall).

RCK says:

Finally someone the same age as me around here! I often feel like a grandma.

Pasqua says:

I would be your age as well, boys. 1996 Championship = watching the game while playing poker in the dorm (well, others playing poker while I stared anxiously at the tv).

 
 
 
Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

It looks like in 1999, Jacob the Jeweler took over the designs. With that being said, the 2003 Marlins ring is the pimpest of all Non-Yankee rings there is.

Where’s the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays American League Championship rings…..so sad. They did give replica’s to all fans on opening night.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

I got one from a Cracker Jack box! Authentic plastic!

The ring is bubkis! I got it in a Cracker Jack Box!

Steve H says:

You have the ring, and I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Let’s see how well you handle it.

Renny Baseball says:
 
 
 
 
 
Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

Anaheim’s ring is as boring as Anaheim.

I see they were wise enough to not put the word “Anaheim” anywhere on the ring itself. That’s a smart move when you’re so ashamed of your city that you change your name three times in the span of a decade.

 
 
Dela G says:

i seem to always forget that the reds won a championship in 1990…

Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

So does Cincinnati.

ShuutoHeat says:

Cincinnati? Reds? What the mumbo jumbo are you folks talking about?

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

I think Lou Pinella forgot too.

 
 
 
Mark B says:

Damn, just the sight of that drops my jaw a bit.

Operation Reclaim Title is almost complete….

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Fun with lohud:

Melancon is sure as heck more reliable than Coke or Bruney. He is also better than meltdown Burnett….

I want to see some entertaining responses to this shit.

Riddering says:

With Melancon on the roster, the Yanks still would have hit fewer batters than the Phillies.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

This is why I advocated bringing in Andrew Brackman. They’re both wild but something tells me it would be a lot more fun to watch Brackman throwing 98 anywhere from the batter to the hot dog salesman. Of course, this is assuming he has regained his velocity.

ROBTEN says:

If Girardi would allow Melancon to throw his other pitches, he could start and we could leave Hughes and Joba in the pen.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

You forgot to add the “/sarcasm”. WE’VE JUST REACHED DEFECATION CON 5.

/did I do that right? Hmmm…it sounds good but it looks bad.

ROBTEN says:

What’s “sarcasm”?

Melancon has the bull-dog mentality that would make him a serviceable starter.

/yes, it is all sarcasm and in jest

Although, to give credit where it is due, it was based upon the beautiful absurdity that is this gem from Madden:

Robertson to the rotation

I can’t believe he said that. Yesterday, he wrote that Chamberlain will definitely be in the ‘pen next year and that the Joba rules failed. I wrote a post today entitled “Bill Madden Doesn’t Understand Innings Limits.”

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I wrote a post today entitled “Bill Madden Doesn’t Understand Innings Limits things or concepts.”

Fixed.

 
ROBTEN says:

That’s not fair. I get the sense that Bill Madden doesn’t understand lots of things about baseball (and life).

I mean, what about this piece of…”wisdom”…on Cano from today’s paper:

“The Yankee second baseman, who has played this entire postseason like he can’t wait to get home to the warm weather of the Dominican Republic, is batting a robust .167 in his first World Series.”

Nothing like a little racism to make a column sparkle.

 

Wise..Buddha…Hair.

You get where I’m going with this.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

I don’t see the racism. Cano is Dominican. That’s like if CC were pitching badly saying he can’t get home to the wrmth of California. I don’t see racism.

 

I don’t see the racism. Cano is Dominican. That’s like if CC were pitching badly saying he can’t get home to the wrmth of California. I don’t see racism.

Here’s how it’s racist: He didn’t say it about CC. Or about Mark Teixeira, who’s also having a shitty World Series, for that matter. I wonder why Robbie is singled out for not caring while Tex doesn’t get thrown under the bus, do you?

When Swisher was in that 3-for-28 stretch, did Madden say “He looks like he can’t wait to get down to his vacation home in Southern California!”

It’s racism by conspicuous omission or inclusion. Only one player gets called out for not caring: Cano.

 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

I believe bigotry and racism are different.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

You’re getting very deep into the subconscious there, though. Besides, it’s not like there isn’t concrete evidence to back up his not caring. Larry Bowa said it himself.

 

JMK aka The Overshare says:
I believe bigotry and racism are different.

Good point, but I feel the “Dominican players are lazy and don’t care” strain of semi-conscious narrative is more an example of racism, because people who you would not outright call “bigoted” still adhere to this racist meme.

 
ROBTEN says:

I think that this is an important issue, so I would like to take time to explain my reading of the quote.

The “Dominican players are lazy and don’t care” narrative is part of a long tradition of attempting to explain away the effects of social inequality in terms of what might be called “moral” failings which are the result of racial differences. That it is used in this instance to explain performance on the baseball field doesn’t matter. The key issue is that it gets repeated so often that it is part of the cultural consciousness such that, whether or not the writer is “aware” of what is being said, it becomes an easily available narrative that is used to explain not just Cano’s performance, but the presupposed failings of an entire group of people without having to address the history of racism, oppression and exploitation.

Consider, for instance, what Hume, one of the central figures of the Enlightenment, wrote in 1753 to explain away slavery (and the struggle against it) in the Caribbean. After proposing that people of color have not produced “ingenious manufactures…no arts, no science,” he writes:

“In Jamaica indeed they talk of one negroe as a man of parts and learning [Francis Williams, the Cambridge educated poet who wrote verse in Latin]; but ’tis likely he is admired for very slender accomplishments, like a parrot, who speaks few words plainly”

While the sentence in question might not seem as overtly racist as what Hume writes, it shares the same cultural history. In both cases, it is implied that people of color are not as “industrious,” “clever,” or “intelligent” as their white counterparts. A point which is routinely repeated in talking about athletes.

 
Pasqua says:

That’s the most unabashed “knowledge drop” in the history of RAB.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Or, he thinks Cano is lazy.

Just saying!

 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

Yeah, we’re in uncharted territory here at RAB.

 
 

The other side of the Madden coin is—believe it or not—Pete Rose who, when recently asked what he thought of the vast number of Latin American players in the majors, responded with a crack about American kids being too lazy and video game-addicted while the Latin American kids work really hard to be in the majors.

 
Renny Baseball says:

Illuminating discussion. Love it. Nothing wrong with pushing into uncharted territory.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Riddering says:

The 2001 Yankee ring was gaudy as hell. A++

 

The Phillies 2008 ring is garishly tacky, even by championship ring standards.

 
Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

Is the Jays ‘92 ring rusting?

Those two Jays rings were just as ugly as Ed Sprague and Kelly Gruber.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

Gruber’s wife is pretty hot, though.

 
 
 
Sam P. says:

And did you notice they put the attendance for the year on the side of the ring? I recalled seeing a few others with that. I mean, it’s great and all, but if I was a player I don’t think I’d look back down the road and think, “man, it’s great the year’s home attendance is on this championship ring.”

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

If they did that, and I played for the Rays and they won, I think I’d cry.

Sam P. says:

Hahaha, that’s great.

“233,543″ or something like that.

 
 

Wasn’t that the record at the time, though?

Sam P. says:

Oh, good point – I didn’t think about that. Just think it’s a little tacky to have attendance on the ring, but perhaps that was the rage back in the 90’s. We should see if other leagues did that.

 
 
 
ROBTEN says:

Both Jays’ rings look like the jay has a thyroid problem, or at least should cut back on the caffeine.

Although, to be fair, nothing says “class” like a bird with a gigantic diamond eye.

 
 
Tom Zig says:

Jerry Colangelo got world champion cufflinks too (2001)?

odd

 
GK says:

Jesus, the D’Backs ring in 2001 is horrendous. Miserable attempt at incorporating pottery into some bling.

Everything the Diamondbacks have ever worn, ever, is a disgusting abomination to fashion.

 
 
 
 

I’ll say what everyone is thinking but doesn’t want to say:

The Yankees 1998, 1999, and 2000 rings are all ugly. Blech.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

THANK YOU.

That was the elephant in the room.

 
Sam P. says:

Agree completely on that one.

 

Indeed. I’d like the ‘96 ring if the logo were smaller.
And…[damn it]..the…Sox rings…are…the…best…looking…[groan]…of the bunch. [ow, that hurt]

 
Renny Baseball says:

Yeah agreed but most of these are. A suggestion in a word: Understated. Simple, elegant etc.

 
 
radnom says:

I accidentally went to

riveraveblues.com/w

and was redirected to the post about Wagner going to Boston. Switch out the letter and get treated to a wonderful blast from the past starting with the chosen letter.

For example:

G -> Eric Gange trade to Boston. That worked out well.

I -> A post about how Kyle Farnsworth was having a great season (really).

You can add multiple letters but there is more chance that nothing will be found.

radnom says:
Renny Baseball says:

Only to beget the Joba starter/reliever debate that would subsume the baseball blogging universe ever since!

 
 
 
 
Sam P. says:

http://graveyard.stadiumpage.com/

I hadn’t looked at that site (similar to the WS rings but about demolished MLB stadiums) before – there are some neat pictures there of places like the Polo Grounds / Ebbets Field. Definitely worth a look if you want to kill some time.

 

Holy crap!

http://www.elnuevodiario.com.ni/deportes/60936

Vincente Padilla shot accidentally by bodyguard.

I don’t have a Spanish dictionary on hand, but from what I can tell: the bodyguard discharged accidentally and Padilla is out of danger.

If you guys want I can grab the dictionary and do a full translation, just let me know. (I am that bored).

Padilla received accidental shooting

The Big Leaguer, who is out of danger, suffered a bullet wound when his bodyguard was ‘desenconchar’ the weapon with which the player conducting shooting practice.

The Big Leaguer Vicente Padilla, arrived at Hospital Metropolitano Vivian Pellas, emergency where he was treated after suffering a bullet wound in his right leg.

Dodgers pitcher in Los Angeles was accidentally shot by his bodyguard when he tried to ‘desenconchar’ the gun he used while making the player practices shooting in the Polygon Specialist, located at kilometer 22 of the Masaya Highway, said the head of Public Relations for the National Police Commissioner Mayor Vilma Reyes.

Meanwhile, Eduardo Reguera, Public Relations Manager HMVP confirmed that the pitcher was treated by doctors and that is out of danger. Reguera would not provide further details of Padilla’s situation, because he pointed out that ‘is information that he personally should clarify’.

That sounds painful.

Sincerely,
Dick Cheney’s hunting buddy

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

There’s a Plaxico joke in here somewhere.

 
 

I’m still confused as to why they used a Portugese word in a Spanish piece.

I was looking everywhere for a translation of that word…

Best I gathered was “discharge”?

I didn’t find anything that would make sense with the story.

 

disengage clutch, diagnostics, deconcentrate, disinclination, disincentives, routine diagnostic, diagnostics flag, diagnostic code, disconsolate, docking station

http://translate.google.com/tr.....26hs%3D9KV

GRGOYLDEF@ says:

Might be trying to say he was unloading it.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Greg G. says:

Line of the night, courtesy of my wife: “Of course the 1994 Red Sox ring is really nice, they had a lot of time to design it.”

Greg G. says:

Sorry…2004 f’***in typo.

 

I approve of this message.

 
 

Call me sick and crazy, but is anyone else secretly hoping for a drama-packed Game 7? A Yanks-Phillies rivalry would be instantly born, one that could be repeated in the next few years in the Fall Classic. The game would be a nail biter on every pitch. That’s great World Series Baseball, and is the type of sports drama that lives on forever. People still talk about the 1990 Super Bowl, nobody ever talks about 1986. Why? One game went down to the last second, the other was a blowout.

It’s fitting. They’re two great yet flawed teams, it would be a slugfest heavyweight match of two very similar fighters. Like Hagler-Hearns, both get in the ring with the similar skills and the same idea, which is to knock the other guy’s head off. Both teams have great lineups, decent starters and a shaky bridge to the closer. 7 game series typically shift from advantage-Pitcher to advantage-Hitters sometime around the middle of the set. The hitters just saw the starter a few days ago, so it’s more difficult to fool them the second time around. We saw that just last night, where AJ Burnett went from great to garbage in just one start. As dominating as Cliff Lee was for the entire month October, even he gave up 5 Runs facing the tough Yankee lineup. As crafty as Pedro is and as battle tested as Andy is, it’s difficult to see either one faring any better tomorrow night.

I’m very confident that the Yanks would prevail, but they would dance on the edge of the cliff before getting there. You would be convinced the season is over in the 4th inning and planning the parade in the 5th, and keep going back and forth with each out. That’s the kind of drama that only a great World Series match up can give you, and were on the verge of seeing it happen. I say bring it on.

Hell no, my 23 year-old heart can’t take a game seven. Sorry man.

That’s part of the fun. Nobody remembers the 1986 Super Bowl as fondly as 1990.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Yeah, well…I kind of do.

When my team wins, we win. I don’t see it in terms of great games. Great games are fun to watch…if my team wins. Blowouts are fun to watch…if my team wins.

Basically, games are fun to watch…if my team wins.

 
 
 
Greg G. says:

You are sick and crazy. There…happy?

I’ll settle for sick, crazy and handsome.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

You asked us to call you sick and crazy. Handsome was NOT part of the deal.

 
 
 

I’d prefer a good old fashioned drubbing in Game Six.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

You’re insane. Totally batshit insane.

That would be my second-worst nightmare (only worse is losing that game).

Blowout in game 6 would suit my taste.

Christos says:
 
 
toad says:

You are sick and crazy.

 
Christos says:

No, blood pressure would be to high and my dad would certainly have a heart attack.

 
ROBTEN says:

No, this is what I want tomorrow:

“If we get a big lead, we gotta pummel these guys, pummel them at all costs. Dominate, and hammer them. I want you to play dirty, if you have to, but don’t get caught. Gardner, stay low. Ok. That’s easy for you. Just chop block ‘em in the back of the knee. That will work well. Tex, you’re big. Don’t be afraid to throw the elbow. If you break someones collar bone, that’s a good thing, that’s what the medics for. Otherwise he’s just sittin’ around. All right! You hear me!”

Next item of business: Nicknames.

Tex, from now on your name is Pussymangler.

 
 
 
toad says:

I think Jake Ruppert once said his idea of a pleasant afternoon was to watch the Yankees score seven runs in the first inning and then slowly pull away to win.

That’s my idea of a great way to spend tomorrow evening, too.

 

Artist: Winning a dramatic Game 7 would be exciting and memorable.

You know what else would be exciting and memorable? Pummeling Pedro and winning tomorrow night by a score of like 16-3. I’d remember that shit forever.

Embrace the fear, my friend.

I can’t embrace what I can’t understand. I do not fear.

 
 
 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

I like it, but then again, I not only advocate players taking steroids, but wish they were required to take them. So take that for what it is.

 

OK, let me ask you folks this. What Movie would you find more entertaining?

-One that draws you in, keeps you on the edge of your seat, has you convinced the main character is going to die, and then has a happy ending.

-One where the final ending is clear halfway through and is never in doubt.

Be honest.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

What if you were a fan of the hero, and emotionally involved in everything he’s done? Then you’d rather he just get out of danger and live comfortably and safely at home.

 
Pasqua says:

I’ve seen The Shawshank Redemption, like, fifty times. I know very well what’s going to happen in that movie, but I still watch it with affection and enjoy it thoroughly. Translation: End it at Game 6, please!

king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

bull-fucking-shit. horrible analogy.

give me tons and tons of good guys winning non-stop.

explosions, cars, cool guns, and if its an R movie, some boobs.

an action-packed BAM BOOM where the good guys win from start to finish, and i am awed by their power and grace.

notice: no mention of mercy either.

this game 7 stuff is absolutely…how you say in this country…batshit insane.

desenconchar yourself for the next play…

 
 
 
Lanny says:

No Yankee fan is hoping for a Game 7. Thats ridiculous.

The Artist is in fact a Yankee fan, and he is in fact hoping for a Game 7. It may not be what you and I would do or how you and I would feel, but it’s far from ridiculous.

 
 

If there is a storm over NYC on Thursday night—which is in the forecast—Game 7 would be played on Friday and once again be a CC vs Lee match-up.

As awesome as that sounds, I have no financial stake in MLB, so no game 7 for me. If it came to that and the Yankees lost, I’d be asking you guys to kindly take up a collection for my legal defense fund.

You see, I would be facing a potential charge of manslaughter, due to the unbearable harassment I would experience from some Yankee-haters of my acquaintance that I might dispose of even if the Yankees win.
So…

 
 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

BTW, regardless of who wins the series, barring an epic Reggie-like game from a Yankee, I vote Utley for MVP.

If we all agree that it shouldn’t mater whether an MVP candidate’s team makes the playoffs in the regular season, why should it change in the postseason? He’s the Most Valuable Player on both teams, even if his team isn’t doing the job around him.

Seconded. Utley, and Cliff Lee, have probably been the co-MVP’s of this series. Without those two, this shit would have been a laugher of a four game sweep.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Cliff Lee did allow five runs yesterday.

But yes, Utley has been the best player. It doesn’t matter if he was better by “enough; he’s the best, and that’s what should matter.

True. I was kinda more giving him credit for Game 1, and giving Utley credit for Game 5.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Why Utley is MVP: He’s been great in BOTH games 1 AND 5, and game 3.

Lanny says:

How about a big game from A-Rod puts that award out of reach?

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3 HRs? I think so.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

I’m trying to argue this with LoHud; it’s like arguing with Mike Francessa. I’m backing up my points with reason and calm logic. Their arguement:

This ends the conversation:
http://www.baseball-reference&.....postseason

If Bonds didn’t win it in ‘02, then no losing player should.

My response:
Just because someone who deserved to win (Bonds) didn’t doesn’t mean that other players who deserve to win shouldn’t.

Their response:
Agree to disagree. To me, Bonds already set the precedent that no matter how dominant a player is, unless there are absolutely no good candidates, the World Series MVP should always go to the winning team.

[Bangs head repeatedly on keyboard]

JMK aka The Overshare says:

Try writing in hieroglyphics, that may help.

 

I don’t think the WS MVP should be on the losing team, period. Regardless of Bonds or whomever. It’s a lame consolation prize that I doubt any player on the losing team would accept or even acknowledge.

 
 
 

I know how ridiculous it sounds but if the Yankees win this, I vote Johnny Damon for MVP. That epic AB/double steal is already being considered the smartest play in WS history. And it ensured the win in Game 4.

 
 

I wonder if the Yankees would risk offering Damon arbitration to avoid having to go multiple years. Perhaps they could do this if other teams want to give Damon a multi-year deal. I doubt they would do this, but it is somewhat possible. Kind of. Maybe.

Nah, too risky. I’d rather lose him altogether that have to pay him 16M for 2010.

Yeah, that’s probably the best course of action. Like they say: it’s better to let ‘im go a year earlier than a year late.

 
 
 
wanger says:

Who gets a WS ring? only the players on the immediate roster or what?

Greg G. says:

I think pretty much everyone who played with the team that year gets a ring.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Everybody vaguely associated with the Yankees franchise gets a ring, basically.

Athletic trainers, traveling secretaries, Bob Shepard in absentia, PR flacks, Wang and Nady, advance scouts, Jason Alexander, Kate Hudson, etc. etc. etc.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:
 

Kate Hudson may as well get a ring.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

I know, I was agreeing. She should get one.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Ah, got ya.

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Oh, Kate Hudson’s gonna be getting a ring, alright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb-Kh1oJSGE

Sincerely,
Nails Kryzyzewski

 
 
 
 
 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

Michael Kay is going to be so psyched! I wonder if he’ll hide the ring in Chip Caray?

I think he’ll put it in a piece of pie.

 
 
 
 
Tom Zig says:

only shelley duncan

 

Anyone who played for the team is eligible to get a ring.

Anyone who was on the 2009 active roster at any point is eligible to get a ring.

Steven Jackson did not play for the 2009 Yankees, but he gets a ring for his brief and fruitless stint on the 25 man.

Kate Hudson did more for the ‘09 Yankees than Steven Jackson. Fact.

 
 
 
 
 
D says:

Does anyone else feel as if the Yanks pitchers were getting squeezed in Philly? It just felt like the Phils pitchers were getting the benefit of the doubt on most borderline calls while the Yanks were not. Not that I’m complaining about the umps or anything…

Not that I’m complaining about the umps or anything…

Yes you are.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

…And so he should.

The umpiring has been atrocious (Francessa’d) this postseason. Really horrible.

Oh, I agree that he should complain. I was just quibbling with his stated notion that he was not in fact complaining.

 
 
D says:

OK, yes I was complaining, but it was sarcasm.

 
 

Both teams were. Games Four and Five featured awful plate umpiring.

Lanny says:

Game 5 was the worst plate umpiring I’ve ever seen. The worst thing that could have happened for Burnett.

Hm, I thought Game Four was worse.

But, the right side of the plate (inside to righties, outside to lefties) seemed to be wiiiiiide open last night.

 
 
 
 
southernyankeefan says:

Watch world series game six or make 6 hour drive for job interview?????

JMK aka The Overshare says:
 
 

Kieth Olberman just called Damon’s steal the smartest play in World Series history.

Smarter than Reggie Jackson’s “I’m gonna hit three homers” strategy?

I DOUBT THAT SHIT!!!

I DON’T HAVE YOUR FUCKIN’ BALL, OKAY?!

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Reggie Jackson’s three WS clicnhing HR’s:

Smartest three plays in SPORTS history. All sports. Ever.

 
 
 
JMK aka The Overshare says:

If anyone’s ever been curious as to why Philly fans are such assholes, watch Parking Wars.

That show is a lot of fun.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

One of them is super hot too.

 
 
 
misterd says:

I Love the Braves ‘95 ring – Team of the Decade

Talk about presumptuous. Forget the fact that the decade was only half over, the Blue Jays had already won 2 series in 2 appearances, the Braves 1 series in 3 appearances.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Good point; you could make a decent arguement for Toronto as team of the decade before the Bombers came along.

misterd says:

To be fair, the Bombers weren’t that good from 90-92, decent in ‘93. The “Dynasty” really started in 94, but since it is only credited from 96-99 – four years, one could still make the argument that the Braves were the dominant team throughout the decade, no matter how many rings they finally won (which, of course, was one).

It still doesn’t take away the fact that calling yourself “team of the decade” in year 5 is premature.

 
 
 
Mike R says:

I’m not sure if this has already been posted (it’s from yesterday). But it’s a funny article nonetheless.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics.....ic-growth/

Salty Buggah says:

Holy fuck! That’s my homework for Economics. I gotta read that and have a short little essay/quiz on it. I hadn’t seen it yet but she was saying how it discusses that so that has to be it. Hilarious, because I just came here and was about to post that.

Mike R says:

haha I wish I had your economics teacher. I go to Temple, so everything and everyone is 100% Phillies. I’ve been sportin’ my Paul O’Neill jersey for most of the game days. I’m convinced there isn’t a single soul in Philly that knows who #21 is.

The funny thing about being at Temple is that no one has any Phillies gear that is more than 4 years old. Stupid phucking phront runners.

Salty Buggah says:

Haha, yea. Stuff like that will happen in the city of recent champions.

My Econ teacher is awesome. I found out she’s huge Yanks fan today too so that was even more awesome.

 
 
 

“The Phillies’ connection to economic turmoil has been documented”

That line cracked me up.

 
 

SYRACUSE LOST TO MOTHERFUCKING LEMOYNE

THAT IS IT I HAVE NO FAITH IN HUMANITY ANY MORE

 

You had faith in humanity?

 
Sam P. says:

All good Rebecca, at least it was an exhibition. Wesley Johnson’s going to be a great addition to the team.

I’m from Syracuse and already have had multiple calls from family back home! It’ll be OK.

 
 
Salty Buggah says:

OK, so I had a huge Economics exam today. I went in early for help, when I found out my professor is a die-hard Yanks fan. She started talking about being pissed that we didnt win it yesterday but says she’s sure we will win. Although I ended up getting little help, it was awesome talking Yanks with her. Oddly, the TA for that class is also a huge Yanks fan.

 
Sam says:

For anyone else who follows this stuff, Yankees are big favorites in Vegas for Game 6:
Yankees -200
Phillies +170

Even Vegas already knows we’re going to win…AND THEN WE’RE GONNA GO SHOOT GUNS AND PUNCHFUCK STRIPPERS!

Punchfuck?

You don’t have issues, you have subscriptions.

I see what you did there.

Sam says:

So only tsjc can cite the Rex Ryan thing apparently? And good line btw

I thought it was well done and clever of you.

Keep citing, buddy.

 
 
 
Renny Baseball says:

Best line of the night!

 
 
 
Salty Buggah says:

My friend, a Phillies fan, said that A-Rod’s performance so far in the postseason, while good, is hardly dominating.

Pssh, hater.

 
Rey22 says:

Wow, the 92 Blue Jays one is ugly ugly shit.

 
Pasqua says:

Was hoping someone could confirm or deny a baseball urban legend for me. I thought of this while reading the comments about the Diamondbacks earlier.

True or false: Following one of the Diamondbacks victories against the Yankees in the ‘01 WS (maybe Game 6 or 7?) the PA system began to play “New York, New York” a la Yankees Stadium, only to abruptly cut the song off with sounds of an explosion (of course, this was only a month-and-a-half after 9/11). I remember hearing something about it very briefly following the game, and then it was never mentioned again.

Random, yes, but it just came back to me.

UWS says:

True. They did this after Game 7. Classy.

Jerry Colangelo had a massive (and petty and baseless) grudge against Steinbrenner over the David Wells negotiation.

He’s a lowbrow chump.

 

Imagine if the Yankees had done something like that. The press would STILL be harping about it. (ESPN would have a nightly segment about it to this day.)

 
 
 
Jer says:

Best bar near Yankee Stadium is…

 
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