Nov
24

Pujols named NL MVP, again

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Albert Pujols was unanimously named NL MVP today, beating out Hanley Ramirez and Ryan Howard by considerable margins, as you can imagine. The 29-year-old Pujols has been in the league for nine years, earning three MVP’s and seven top three finishes in the voting. He’s a machine.

Here’s the voting. Who voted for Jeremy Affeldt? I mean come on.

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  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Yunel Escobar got a 5th place vote? Really?

  • A.D.

    Who voted for Jeremy Affeldt? I mean come on.

    Ohhhh the holds!!!

    • Jordan

      Jon Heyman

      • JM

        The same people that voted for Michael Cuddyer?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Matt Holliday got a 4th place vote.

    • Christos

      didnt manny come in like 6th last year?

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      Todd Helton got a 3rd place vote. Top that.

  • Toki

    When it’s all said and done he’ll go down as the greatest hitter off all-time.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      After Dusty Pedroia.

      /Gambraham’d

      • Jordan

        IETC.

        • Bo

          How about of this era?

          Find it very hard to say hes the best ever when thinking about Ted Williams.

          • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

            Pujols is up there certainly…

            But for pure contact hitter…my vote would go to Tony Gynn

          • JM

            Find it very hard to say hes the best ever when thinking about Ted Williams Babe Ruth.

            Fixed.

            • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

              Pretty Amazing Stat:

              Joe DiMaggio

              Career Home Runs: 361
              Career Strike Outs: 369

              He struck out on average…34 times a season LOL

              that’s incredible

              • Bo

                Dont forget the little fact about Williams missing prime yrs of his prime to fly fighter jets in Korea. Safe to say he probably left a thousand hits and 200 homers on the table.

              • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                But look at DiMaggio’s BABIP…..

                • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

                  Safe to say he probably left a thousand hits and 200 homers on the table.

                  With that bullpen porch they created specifically for him in RF that still stands today…you’re probably right.

                  Remember, Joe DiMaggio was a righty hitting at Yankee Stadium…where straight away LF was 402ft/415ft and left-center was 457ft.

                • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

                  Reply Fail. Sorry.

                • Ed

                  DiMaggio’s BABIP was .304. Right about average. What about it?

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  It was a joke(?) about how stupid of a stat BABIP is for hitters, because it penalizes low K rates and rewards high K rates.
                  Not my best, but no where near my worst joke.

            • vin

              I think, right now, Pujols is very close to that second tier of all-around offensive greatness with Mantle, DiMaggio, Musial, Mays, Aaron.

              He’ll need at least another 5 years to crack the first tier of hitters: Ruth, Williams, Gherig, Bonds.

              The first tier guys not only dominated, offensively, but did so for a lot of years.

              • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

                I don’t know why it wasn’t letting me submit what I wrote…twice. Oh well.

            • mf

              Competition is probably better now, etc, and I’m not sure the best ever label is even meaningful. But Ruth’s career numbers are still astonishing. 342/474/690 for his career over 22 seasons. A 207 OPS+ compared to Pujols 172 OPS+ over 9 seasons (Ted William: 191).

              • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

                The best is when Barry Bonds past the Babe and one reporter asked him if he felt he was better than Babe Ruth now that he’s passed him on the HR list…and he goes “I think the numbers speak for themselves.” and another reporter goes “Yeah? Well you better go out and get 100 wins too then” lol

  • Colombo

    All 4 major awards were correct this year. I’m impressed.

  • Moshe Mandel

    14 voters left Utley off. Buzz is getting the right guys to win, but after that it is all 1Bmen again. We haven’t learned anything.

    • A.D.

      Baby steps

    • Doug

      and your expectations were…..

      • Bo

        Why doesnt driving in runs and creating runs mean anything??? I guess Pujols shouldnt have won??

        Next time we can give it to a middle infielder because he plays the tougher position

        • Doug

          nobody said they don’t mean anything. just that other things mean more, like getting on-base. oh, and mr. pujols does that quite well too

        • Moshe Mandel

          No, Pujols should have won. Can you ever make a comment without putting words in someone’s mouth? And you hit on the key point- driving in runs AND creating runs. Utley was actually better than Howard at the combination of those two things. Throw in the fact that he does play a position where it would be harder to replace him, and you have a guy who should have finished 3rd at worst.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            3rd at worst? Whaaaa? Jeremy Affeldt and Brad Hawpe easily outplayed Utley. Victorino too.

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      There’s something more wrong with Utley being left off that many ballots than just a 1B fetish. For whatever reason, people just don’t view him as the best Phillies player. It’s insane, considering his bat alone is worth more than Howard’s, but it’s true.

      Maybe Jeter can hook him up with an Edge.

  • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

    By the way, the guy who voted #1 for Miguel Cabrera wasn’t even from Detroit…he was from Seattle. Some guy wrote an article about it…mad that Mauer didn’t become the first catcher in history to win by unanimous vote.

    • Jordan

      NO WAY!!!!

      • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

        POWERBARS!!!!

  • Jordan

    Zimmerman got hosed.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      Yeah. Without him, they easily lose 100 games.

      • Jersey

        “Yeah. Without him, they easily lose 100 110 games.”

        Don’t underestimate the importance of the 109-loss threshold.

  • Jim

    If I were voting I would definitely put some scrubs at the end of the ballot. Who wouldn’t want to see Ross Gload on the MVP results?

    • Jersey

      +1

    • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

      8th place – Royce Clayton

  • JM

    Why did Coghlan get a vote? I know he was ROY, but by no means was he even considered to be in the top 10 most valuable players of the NL.

  • Thomas

    Both Carpenter and Wainwright got more votes than Lincecum.

    • Doug

      cards won, giants did not

    • vin

      Who had more RBI’s?

      • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

        IETC

  • Christos

    According to the MVP ballot, Chris Carpenter was the NL Cy.

    • andrew

      And Mariano won the AL Cy young.

  • vin

    “The 29-year-old Pujols has been in the league for nine years, earning three MVP’s and seven top three finishes in the voting.”

    And 8 top four finishes. He’s unreal.

    • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

      Steroids.

      • Colombo

        I don’t think so. Pujols would definitely be in that group of players with Jeter and Mo that, if it ever came out they did steroids, I would stop watching baseball. Forever.

        • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

          Why? What makes Pujols different than some of these other guys that got caught? Derek Jeter represents the face of baseball and everything every player should be. Albert Pujols just smashes the ball and quietly plays the game in St. Louis with everybody else down there (not named LaRussa – DUI)

        • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

          Every single player that has put up superhuman numbers has gotten caught for the most part. The odds are against Pujols. Bonds, Arod, Manny, Ortiz, McGuire, Giambi, Sheffield, etc.

          • Steve H

            Agreed, but it goes much further back, steroids have been in the game for a long time.

            • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

              I agree. If bodybuilders were using them in the 60′s and 70′s…I don’t see how baseball players wouldn’t be able to get their hands on them.

        • Guest

          I think you would only be harming yourself, Colombo. Why does it make a difference to you who cheated? The fact of the matter is, many people cheated. Many people cheated in other ways well before steroids were invented. You apparently still enjoy the game with the knowledge that some of its stars have cheated. Given this history of cheating that you have tolerated to this point, why does the become so unwatchably impure just because it was one of the “sainted ones” that cheated?

          Nothing about the game of baseball would change for me if it turned out that Jeter, Rivera, or Pujols took steroids. They would just be another in a long line of stars who besmirched their legacy by taking a PED.

          A nicely turned double play would still look sweet; a diving catch in the outfield would still cause me to leap of my couch (in joy or disappointment); and the game would remain just as beautiful, if imperfect, as it has always been.

  • Bo

    It’s a subjective thing. There is no set standard on how and who to vote for. Now I’m sure the guy who voted for Jeremy Affeldt really thought he was valuable.

    He also gets every blogger to know his name and now search his stories and see what else hes done. Better for him.

    • Esteban

      I would really want to see how he can justify Jeremy Affeldt being the 10th most valuable player in the NL.

  • Reggie C.

    David Wright should garner more love in 2010, if he ever manages to hit more than a half dozen homers at Citi.

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Are you implying he didn’t receive the consideration he deserved in 2009?

      • Reggie C.

        Adam Rubin could’ve thrown the Mets organization a bone and voted David Wright at #10. (j/k … Rubin would’ve caught some hell).

        Not one Met player named. Wow. That caps off the kind of season the org endured. Anyways, i think Wright finishes top 5 next year.

        • Steve H

          I don’t know who would have been named, though I’m sure they have better candidates than Affeldt.

  • Raf

    there are some wacky votes on that list.

    and yes, Pujols is a machine.

    • Doug

      derrick lee with a 2nd while being left completely off half the ballots qualifies as wacky to me

  • pat

    Say what you want, but Affelt like this reliever was a very important part of his team.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Why in the fuck is Chase Utley not higher up on this list? It’s fucking ridiculous that he consistently gets less consideration than Ryan Howard.

    • Doug

      because chicks love the long ball

    • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

      Dustin Pedroia is just better than Chase Utley and his numbers were wayyy better in 2008 than Chase Utley’s in any given year.

      /BostonDirtDog’d

  • Steve H

    I hope the guy who voted for Affeldt comes out and says he did it to prove that the voting system is a mockery. Otherwise, he should have his vote stripped. It’s insane.

    • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

      TWO different people voted for Affeldt…

  • Steve H

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/e.....the-greek/

    Back to Affeldt for a second, though.

    I’ve got an MVP vote this year, and while I’m not going to reveal my selections until after the results are announced, I’m fairly certain I’ll reserve the 10th spot on my ballot for Affeldt.

    He has a 1.84 ERA in a team-high 72 games and he’s been the most statistically dominant and impressive non-save earning relief pitcher in the NL. In terms of value, that ranks him pretty high in my book.

    • http://kyivpost.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/355/5.jpg Rose

      In terms of value, that ranks him pretty high in my book.

      Just above the 3rd base coach? lol

      • Steve H

        Just above the 1st base coach, slightly below the 3rd base coach.

  • Guest

    Albert Pujols…29…

    To Quote Arsenio Hall: “Things that make you go Hmmmmmm………”