Saturday Night Open Thread

U.S. economic growth and the Yankees' World Series wins
Duff throws a scoreless frame in Surprise loss

There’s really not much going on right now, that tends to happen during that weird 15-day gap between the end of the World Series and when free agents hit the true open market. If you’re looking for something to read, check out this post on the high inside fastball by Nick Steiner at THT. That’s some good stuff.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the night. The Nets, Isles, and Devils are all in action, plus there’s a ton of college football games being played. Talk about whatever you like, just be nice.

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U.S. economic growth and the Yankees' World Series wins
Duff throws a scoreless frame in Surprise loss
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    JMK the Overshare, you are from my hometown.

    Spill.

    Who the hell are you? Do I know you?

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      I’ll give you a few clues. First name is James, I have a twin sister, I graduated from RHS in ’05, I went to college in Burlington, Vermont and now work in urban planning (and attending law school in September).

      We did go to middle school together, though truthfully, I don’t really remember you.

      You’re a smart cookie, you’ll figure it out.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Graduated in 05 means you’re a year younger than me. Alas, I went to Hills and not Ramapo so you’re really asking me to rack my memory.

        I’m kind of glad you don’t remember me, because, uh, I wasn’t exactly popular.

        Bah, you are not on Facebook!

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Ehh, I hit my popularity peak in 5th grade (Coolidge). We’re adults—I don’t concern myself with childish plays of popularity. I’m less popular as an adult than I was as a child (hence, RABing on a Saturday night with my cat and a glass of wine).

          Another big hint: My last name starts with a ‘k’ and I’m told it translates to “short man” in German, though I’m unsure if this is true.

          BTW, I’m on the book of faces. You’ll figure it out. I’m sure of it.

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

            GAH OMG I WENT TO COOLIDGE TOO!!!!

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              You’re kidding. Holy cow. Ms. Berg gave me all O’s because she had the hots for my stepfather.

              I bit Max Armenante’s arm in 3rd grade (you were in 4th) when he stole my pencil. He had to get rabies vaccinations. Ahhh memories. I had Mrs. Christie, the creepy old woman who made me scratch her back for hours.

              You probably know (or know of them) the McKay’s, Sangiorgi’s, Van Dyke’s then.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                OH MY GOD I HAD MS BERG AND MRS CHRISTIE (THE WITCH WHO WOULDNT LET US WEAR YANKEE SHIRTS) AND MS SERVON!!!!

                Aggghhh!!

                And why is Max Armenante’s name so familiar?!?!

                And the McKays friggin’ ran the place…

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Max had an older sister named “Heather”. I think she was a grade above you.

                  Never had Ms. Servon, though I hear she was better than most. Rick Flair? WOOOOOOOO!I think his name was Dr. Shuck or something like that.

                • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                  Servon was amazing. Best. teacher. ever. Although I blame her for my fear of tornadoes.

              • http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/8997/052109_coach_rex_ryan_presser_320.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                “I bit Max Armenante’s arm in 3rd grade (you were in 4th) when he stole my pencil. He had to get rabies vaccinations. Ahhh memories.”

                Again… Endlessly fascinating.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Yeah, I had strange anger issues as a youngster. I locked my sister in the dog kennel for an entire day while our parents were on a cruise. That didn’t go over too well.

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

            All I get is James Leach and James Marino…

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              Haha, no, Leach was a funny kid, though. You’re close. Your research skills are disappointing, Rebecca. First three letters of the last name are “Kle”.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                Still getting nothing on teh internets =( It’s on the tip of my tongue, too….

                • http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/8997/052109_coach_rex_ryan_presser_320.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  What I lack in good looks and charm, I make up for with inappropriate touching, strange masturbatory habits and a heart of gold.

                  I made one of those up.

                • Tom Zig

                  I made one of those up.

                  Heart of gold?

                  What did I win??!?!?

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  You win a demonstration of strange masturbatory habits and inappropriate touching. Sound good?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Kleimann?

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          There we go!

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          What are the chances two people that went to the same small elementary school are regular contributors on RAB? Next time you’re in town, we should grab a coffee.

          Back in the day, I ran Boulder Run (not really).

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

            I’ll be there tomorrow night and some time on Monday.

  • Joey

    My school beat #13 Houston! Fuck yea! Partying hard tonight

  • http://theyankeeway.mlblogs.com/ Keanu Reeves

    Any way to watch the Isles game tonight without having center ice? Are they on Versus or anything?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      They’re on MSG+

      • http://theyankeeway.mlblogs.com/ Keanu Reeves

        Unfortunately, living in VT, I don’t get MSG+.

        Thanks a lot though, Rebecca!

  • Salty Buggah

    So I’ve been researching all day yesterday and today to write an essay on a topic discussed in the book GloboChrist, which I didn’t understand at all so I gave up after Ch.1. Now I somewhat know some of the points in the book. But all of my research is going to waste as it won’t really help me in what I’m supposed to write and now I’m also changing the subject. Researching starts all over for me. I still have to write the essay itself. :(

    Also, I have a research paper due tomorrow night in addition to this and that’s supposed to take me longer. Fuck this class and my life.

    • Salty Buggah

      And I havent even started that research paper at all yet. All I know is that I am writing about the impact of globalization on Sikhism in America. I’m stressing out like crazy here.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Check out EBSCO, JSTOR and other online databases. That should help quite a bit with the research aspect. As far as formulating the paper itself, do you have a particular method you often adhere to? I prefer detailed outlines.

        • Salty Buggah

          Yea, I’m on Ebsco right now. Found 3 articles but I’m still not sure what to right about. There are a lot of ideas in the book. I’ve narrowed it down to three:

          Islam and Christianity and the “Clash of Revelations,” not a class of civilizations in the future

          Christianity in India and how its increasing

          Secularism in Europe; Godless Europe

          I’m leaning towards the 2nd one because I can somewhat create a good argument about how its increasing there.

          • Salty Buggah

            *not class, but Clash of civilizations

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I’ve read “Clash” a few times.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            I’ll abstain for putting forth any sort of religious opinion, even though it’s an open thread, it’ll be of little use to anyone.

            I’m still a bit unclear as to what exactly the paper’s requirement is.

            Is it about Sikhism in America (huge population centers in Queens and California, I know–you could try to research how their cultural identity is meshing with the mobile, interactive nu-tech America), Islam as it relates to/is different in its basic tenants from Christianity or about mounting secularism in Europe (there have been quite a few articles from known American Christian leaders of late, as they worry America is quickly following Europe’s secularism)?

            Do you get to choose any of these? If so, how are they related to Sikhism in America?

            • Salty Buggah

              No its not about any religion opinions, which kinda sucks because thats why I signed up for the class. It’s about the effects of globalization on particular religions.

              And the Sikhism and Christianity papers are two separate ones BTW.

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Globalization as it relates to the industries the practitioners of the religion are in, the cultural adaption/mobility/change of youth culture within the religion?

                • Salty Buggah

                  Yea, that’s pretty much it.

              • Esteban

                Uhhh, I wrote a paper on the impact of globalization on Islam last year. If you get this, if it’s not too late, I mayeb can help you out

            • Salty Buggah

              For this paper, this is what I have to do:

              “Develop a brief thesis of no more than several sentences about how the new “globalized Christianity”, discussed in various ways in the book GLOBOCHRIST, has become manifest in a certain region or continent of the world – e.g., Europe, East Asia (China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.), South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan), the Middle East, Europe, North America, South America. Your thesis does not have to be proven in advance, but should be plausible or “cogent” based on what you’ve read in the assigned book, found on the internet, or have learned on your own. It cannot be based simply on your own barely informed opinion.”

              Easy enough but kinda hard at the same time. The only thing that killed me was that I didnt undertstand and completely read the book so I had to research a lot about it.

              • Salty Buggah

                And of course, I have to then write the paper itself using “certified documentary sources”

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Oh man! I was totally onboard when it was just the thesis. Give me a few minutes and I’ll help you develop a decent thesis. Heads up, though, I’m not particularly well-versed in the changing shifts in global Christianity. I know quite a bit more about global Islam (though not anywhere approaching the level of scholar).

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  I took a history course in which everything we read/used for writing was a primary source. That was annoying.

                • Salty Buggah

                  Yea it definitely is annoying

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  Reading first person accounts of the Rawandan genocide was not fun.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  OK, total shot in the dark I just threw together.

                  As traditional states in Western Europe continue to grow more secular, while the divide between Islam and Western beliefs widens, the global Christian imperative to spread and maintain its ideologies is dependent upon the United States’ active role in spreading its culture, the foundation of which is rooted in Christianity.

                • Salty Buggah

                  I like it and its well written…but I dont think its what I’m looking for. I have to focus one idea. I’ve decided to focus on Christianity in India.

                • Salty Buggah

                  Thanks for your effort though. I’d use that if I wasn’t writing this dumb paper.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  No problem. Good luck!

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  One last tidbit: My best friend spent a year in India practicing medicine/studying there. I forget what region he spent most of his time, but whatever. Anyway, he says that Indians there are fascinated by whites, particularly Americans. I can’t personally verify this, as I’ve never been there. More to the point, my friend’s claim stems from his belief that there is still a large degree of, and perhaps I’m reaching for the term, racism. The lighter-skinned Indians are thought to be more prosperous, industrious and “advanced”. Perhaps this is why Christianity, in the modern sense, is noted to be the religion of the prosperous white man, something they strive to be.

                  Also, he told me that most Indian movies involve an Indian man being much desired by white women.

                  Take this for what it’s worth—a second hand source that could potentially not be rooted in any reality or real circumstance.

                  Just throwing stuff out.

                • NYTraveller

                  The relative social standing of light skin/dark skin in India is, in part, connected to the Hindu caste system. Indo-European invaders (Aryans) entered the subcontinent in succeeding waves beginning around 1500 BCE (the time of the destruction of the Indus Valley civilization centered on Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro). The castes formalized a power structure which relegated the older, native, darker-skinned peoples (Dravidians) to the lower castes.

                  Christianity entered India very early (traditionally through the missionary work of St. Thomas the Apostle); there is a very old Christian culture that was in contact with various Assyrian, Nestorian and other eastern versions of Christianity and was later influenced by the Roman Catholic Portuguese presence beginning in the late 15th century. The Malabar coast is a center of Indian Christianity.

                  Protestantism was expanded by Anglican, Presbyterian and Methodist missionaries in the 18th and 19th centuries as the British Raj established itself.

                  That’s off the top of my head (history teacher but not an India expert) and I more than likely left off some significant avenues of research, but if you look at the Syro-Malabar rite of Catholicism or the British missions or relatively recent commun ities of Christians and trace their growth and/or connection to the growth of other 20th century missionary efforts in Africa or China you may have a useful approach to fulfill your assignment. I’m sure there is some scholarly literature on JSTORs that would address some of this anyway. Good luck.

                • NYTraveller

                  I should have added that Christianity has a dual appeal: as the religion of the upper class (British) rulers in the 19th c and the anglicized Indians (Gandhi, for instance) and as a faith that appeals to the poor, oppressed and forgotten like the lowest caste (Untouchables). Of course, the British connection cuts two ways and reduces the appeal of Christianity to nationalists which is often expressly connected to Hinduism.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  Good points, NYT. Interestingly (or perhaps not, yeah, it’s not. Nevermind), the biggest ship-jumpers to Christianity are Hindi.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Finally got a PS3! Woo!

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      How is it? TELL ME EVERYTHING!

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        It’s pretty awesome. Right now I’ve just got The Show and MW2, but that should keep me entertained for a while.

        • http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/8997/052109_coach_rex_ryan_presser_320.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Get GTA4. Thank me 2 months later when you tear yourself away from your PS3.

        • chriskeo

          MW2 is awesome, enough said.

    • http://theyankeeway.mlblogs.com/ Keanu Reeves

      I envy you on this night. Maybe I’ll go watch the Matrix…

    • Anthony

      Ahhh I’m considering cracking down and buying one too myself. I kind of want to pick up Dragon Age, I’ve always been into RPGs..

      /cliche blogger living in mother’s basement

  • Mr. Max

    I want some hotstove.

    Trade for either David DeJesus or Matt Murton for LF?

    Delmon Young? (He might be non-tendered)

    Aaron Rowand?

    Adam Dunn? (Basically a DH; LAST in UZR this year)

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      No to all. I love Dunn for DH but trading wouldn’t make sense with multiple DH options available for just money.

      • Mr. Max

        I kinda like DeJesus if the price is right. He’s a tremendous fielder, good baserunner, and used to play center. New Yorker, too I think.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          Meh. I’d rather not trade pieces away for what could be only a marginal upgrade. If the price is Swisher-deal-cheap, then, yeah, it’s probably right. However, I don’t think it’d be that low. I’d rather roll with FA signings than trades.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            It is the Royals…

            • Mr. Max

              I spent part of my evening sifting through contracts of teams like the Royals and Pirates…….does that make me an Evil Yankees Fan™?

              • JMK aka The Overshare

                Not at all. The thing is, the Royals seem to take our crappy outcast players and we purge the Pirates of anything with moderate value, or so it seems.

    • http://theyankeeway.mlblogs.com/ Keanu Reeves

      Just wait for 2011 on Dunn, then he can be the full time DH and blast 900 home runs over the right field wall.

      =]

      • Tom Zig

        I like this idea.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Woot Manny Pacquiao fight today!

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      1.4 mil buys at $55 each, that’s about 75 mil before they even sell one seat in Vegas. Nice business.

      • http://pinstripepalace.blogspot.com/ Brien Jackson

        How many people bought Tecate?

  • Salty Buggah

    Came across this: http://media.nowpublic.net/ima.....3a23e9.jpg

    Makes no sense. Why T-Mobile?

  • Gatemouth

    who do you guys like in the fight?

    • Alex S

      Cotto

      • Gatemouth

        me too but he’s a 3-1 dog. surprised the line is that long.

        • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

          Because Pacquiao’s good.

  • Anthony

    Bah Syracuse and their losing ways, it’s gonna take a long, long time for that football program become a power again.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      I graduated Syracuse in 2008. I feel your pain.

      • Anthony

        Heh I actually just graduated from ESF in May, I miss walking by the dome everyday.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          I kind of hate ESFers all the good stuff about Syracuse for half the price!

          • Anthony

            It’s cool, I can totally understand. I definitely took advantage of taking as many SU classes as I could, there’s no way I could afford them otherwise.

          • Anthony

            Ha, I just put your name into stalkerbook just for shits and giggles, and one of our friends in common was a TA for one of my classes. Small world eh?

            • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

              No way, which one? Tell me it’s Brad or Seth…

              • Anthony

                Neither, John Hartigan.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      It could happen. I always talk shit on UConn’s football program, but if they can build towards respectability, anyone can.

  • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

    Oh damn! Crawford wants out of TB.
    http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=17698
    Now is there a way for Tampa to say “Uhh yeah forget that we picked up his option…”

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Tampa screwed him on a Gentleman’s agreement. He’ll probably be traded mid-season, I would assume. Chances are he’s looking to be traded and sign an extension, right? If so, I’d think that would hurt the Yanks’ chances of getting him through just FA.

      • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

        No, the report is false. Frank Russo makes stuff up all the time, and Mike Silva encourages it. That site is a disaster.

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Good to know. Thanks for the clarification, Moshe.

          • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

            I should have added this link, which debunks the report:

            http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays.....false.html

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              Is he trying to do a SportsbyBrooks TMZ-styled version of “journalism”?

              • Tom Zig

                that damn celebrity gossip source stole my initials.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I cannot believe that on RAB I managed to run into another RABer from my hometown. That is way, way too whack.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Yeah. Give me a buzz when you’re in town. 201 788 4708.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        just sent you a text

      • andrew

        throwing your number out there on the internet… bold. What if alex gonzalez prank calls you??

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          This isn’t the NAMBLA message board. Number I don’t recognize, I ignore. Whatevs.

          • Tom Zig

            North American Marlon Brando Look A-likes?

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I did the same thing (THCM). On another board, I found a dude who’s father was tight w/my late grandfather. Now we’re good friends.

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        That’s awesome. I always find it funny when things like this happen. One of my best friend’s from Vermont lived next door to a good friend from Rahwah, NJ, and I had absolutely no idea until I visited one and saw the other outside. I thought it was a prank or something.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          /Punk’d

  • Salty Buggah

    “He’s pissed beyond belief.”

    Oh, that’s just great. Kennedy for Crawford! (not serious)

    OK, does Kennedy/Nova get it done?

    • Salty Buggah

      Fuck reply fail

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    It’s funny to note the parallels between Salty’s globalization paper (making the world smaller, although his has a religion focus, but I digress) and the discovery of how closely some of our real-world RAB ties really are.

    • Salty Buggah

      Yep, the internet and new technologies are bringing people together

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      My head just exploded

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    OH MY G-D OH MY G-D THE NETS MIGHT ACTUALLY WIN THIS GAME!!!

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      NO FUCKING WAY I HATE YOU DWAYNE WADE

    • Salty Buggah

      Ouch. So close

      • NYTraveller

        Basketball season is turning into the reverse of Joe D’s streak in 1941. Too bad the Knicks screwed up such (negative) perfection with a win.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    http://www.tennessean.com/arti.....n+sentence

    ^^^I wish I had teachers like this growing up, though there was one. Ms. Grayson. To this day I still believe she moonlighted as a stripper. She reeked of hangover and cigarettes every morning. But she was fine. Oh yes, you dirty, dirty skank. Tell me all about prepositions while I peer down your blouse. Tell me…

    • http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/8997/052109_coach_rex_ryan_presser_320.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Free Sandy Binkley. New RAB t-shirts?

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Hell yeah. I should really learn Photoshop. It would be graphic, yet beautiful.

        • Tom Zig

          Please do.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Tennessee is having quite a news day. http://www.tennessean.com/arti.....ged+e-mail

      “The e-mail from Trooper Josef GoebbelsBrent Gobbell states, in part, “You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member … you call him a racist.” It also includes a list of racist epithets.

      The message concludes, “There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let’s see which of you are proud enough to send it on … BE PROUD TO BE WHITE”

      Wow, Tennessee. Just…wow.

      • http://www.newyorkjets.com/image_assets/8997/052109_coach_rex_ryan_presser_320.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        That’s just a white cop from Tennessee who’s tired of the persecution, right there.

  • donttradecano

    Brandon Jennings drops 55 tonight. Knicks make a mistake by passing on him?

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      Too early to tell. Not that Jordan Hill excites anyone…

  • Andrew

    OH MY GOD MODERN WARFARE 2 AMAZING

  • Reggie C.

    Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

    May 2010

    MO PLEASE MAKE IT SO !!!!

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I don’t know why I’m watching, I thought I’d sworn it off, but I wish the pundits on The Sports Reporters had talked even half as passionately about the World Series as they just did some mid-season NFL games.

    • http://pinstripepalace.blogspot.com/ Brien Jackson

      That has to be the worst show on ESPN, and that’s saying a lot.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Yeah, I used to enjoy it when I didn’t know any better. Woops.

        • http://pinstripepalace.blogspot.com/ Brien Jackson

          I don’t see how any show that is 33% Lupica ranting could be enjoyable.

          All you need to know about that show, and ESPN as a whole really, is that everyone (save for Neyer and KLaw) there swore up and down that Gaudin should start WS game.