Comments on: Waiting for Andy, again http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:52:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fan Confidence Poll: November 30th, 2009 | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-699623 Fan Confidence Poll: November 30th, 2009 | River Avenue Blues Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:32:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-699623 [...] there’s a chance they won’t offer any of their free agents arbitration. They’re still waiting for Andy Pettitte to decide if he wants to return in 2010, though they plan on having both Hughes and Joba in the [...] [...] there’s a chance they won’t offer any of their free agents arbitration. They’re still waiting for Andy Pettitte to decide if he wants to return in 2010, though they plan on having both Hughes and Joba in the [...]

]]> By: Lanny http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696520 Lanny Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696520 What team is utterly confident in any starters ability to stay healthy?? Especially one like Sheets What team is utterly confident in any starters ability to stay healthy??

Especially one like Sheets

]]> By: Lanny http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696519 Lanny Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:00:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696519 Andy should be looked at what he is. A backend starter. The best 4 guy in the biz. That is why they still need abother top flight starter. Before you go making Andy a 3 starter remember his age and the fact that he had an achy shoulder last yr. Leave him where he is. Backend. Go out and get another top notch starter to pair with him, AJ and CC. Andy should be looked at what he is. A backend starter. The best 4 guy in the biz. That is why they still need abother top flight starter.

Before you go making Andy a 3 starter remember his age and the fact that he had an achy shoulder last yr.

Leave him where he is. Backend. Go out and get another top notch starter to pair with him, AJ and CC.

]]> By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696392 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:31:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696392 Lol, sorry. Lol, sorry.

]]> By: emac2 http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696379 emac2 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:23:48 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696379 The question isn't yes or no on Pettitte. It is Pettitte or another option. Damon, Matsui and Pettitte are all good player that would help the club win the series next year. I just happen to think that the 25-30 mil they would cost is better spent elsewhere. One year contracts are great but they are an admission that you don't have a long term solution as opposed to being the goal themselves. Personally, I would replace Damon with Jackson, resign Hairston, Resign Matsui for 5 mil and leave the bottom 3 rotation slots to Hughes, Joba, Aceves and Kennedy. I think we pass on free agency this year and wait for the big one next year or do a mid season deal for one of next years free agents if the kids can't hold down all three of those rotation slots. The bottom line is we should roll with the kids for the most part, include a few vets who want to win more then they want to get paid and know that we will have the time, money and trade assets to get the best of anything to fill our needs next summer. The question isn’t yes or no on Pettitte. It is Pettitte or another option.

Damon, Matsui and Pettitte are all good player that would help the club win the series next year.

I just happen to think that the 25-30 mil they would cost is better spent elsewhere.

One year contracts are great but they are an admission that you don’t have a long term solution as opposed to being the goal themselves.

Personally, I would replace Damon with Jackson, resign Hairston, Resign Matsui for 5 mil and leave the bottom 3 rotation slots to Hughes, Joba, Aceves and Kennedy. I think we pass on free agency this year and wait for the big one next year or do a mid season deal for one of next years free agents if the kids can’t hold down all three of those rotation slots.

The bottom line is we should roll with the kids for the most part, include a few vets who want to win more then they want to get paid and know that we will have the time, money and trade assets to get the best of anything to fill our needs next summer.

]]> By: Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696340 Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:47:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696340 You're right; I don't. Sigh. Too obvious. You’re right; I don’t.

Sigh. Too obvious.

]]> By: Ed http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696208 Ed Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:28:19 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696208 Gotcha. I think that's basically what Pettitte tried last year, and it kinda worked. Got less guaranteed than the initial offer, but the possibility for more. In the end he did make more than the initial offer, so he came out ahead by a little. Gotcha. I think that’s basically what Pettitte tried last year, and it kinda worked. Got less guaranteed than the initial offer, but the possibility for more. In the end he did make more than the initial offer, so he came out ahead by a little.

]]> By: steve s http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696193 steve s Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:19:43 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696193 You never know how cognizant a guy like Pettitte is about such things but I'd say if he can get to the point of having more than 100 wins over losses (he's 229-135 after last year)and bags a few more post-season wins he is going to be a viable HOF candidate. If he is cognizant of that kind of stuff I think he will not retire after having such a productive 2009 and its pretty clear the Yankees are the only team he'd pitch for and the only team willing/able to pay him market or close to market. You never know how cognizant a guy like Pettitte is about such things but I’d say if he can get to the point of having more than 100 wins over losses (he’s 229-135 after last year)and bags a few more post-season wins he is going to be a viable HOF candidate. If he is cognizant of that kind of stuff I think he will not retire after having such a productive 2009 and its pretty clear the Yankees are the only team he’d pitch for and the only team willing/able to pay him market or close to market.

]]> By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696187 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:15:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696187 I hear you. Keep in mind, though, that what happened to Abreu last offseason was (1) really F'ng unique and crazy and (2) a result of Abreu and his reps massively misreading the market. Abreu thought he'd get an offer from a team not named the Yankees for as much as he was making the year before when most people thought he was overpaid and aging and he also didn't properly read the competition on the market. Andy is looking to stay with a team that he's been with almost his whole career, that team being the Yankees, that team being a team that needs his services and values him, and that team being a team that at the worst is going to offer him a contract like his 2009 contract (which he may not have liked but which paid him 8 figures in the end). There are certainly concerns on Andy's side of the negotiating table, I'm not saying he's in the strongest negotiating position in the world. But we have to be careful to not overreact to Abreu's situation and use it as a comp for free agents who are not really in the same predicament he found himself in last year. I hear you. Keep in mind, though, that what happened to Abreu last offseason was (1) really F’ng unique and crazy and (2) a result of Abreu and his reps massively misreading the market. Abreu thought he’d get an offer from a team not named the Yankees for as much as he was making the year before when most people thought he was overpaid and aging and he also didn’t properly read the competition on the market. Andy is looking to stay with a team that he’s been with almost his whole career, that team being the Yankees, that team being a team that needs his services and values him, and that team being a team that at the worst is going to offer him a contract like his 2009 contract (which he may not have liked but which paid him 8 figures in the end).

There are certainly concerns on Andy’s side of the negotiating table, I’m not saying he’s in the strongest negotiating position in the world. But we have to be careful to not overreact to Abreu’s situation and use it as a comp for free agents who are not really in the same predicament he found himself in last year.

]]> By: crapula http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/waiting-for-andy-again-20474/#comment-696183 crapula Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:09:30 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20474#comment-696183 I think Andy comes back. I think the real consideration for him is going out on top or taking the chance of not going out on top. I think that helped Mussina decide to retire after his 20-win season. But Andy is Andy. I mean, he pitched the final game at the Old Stadium and he loved that even though they didn't make the playoffs...and he was hurt the second half and he came back...perhaps to prove himself yet again or to play baseball or to play in the new Stadium. Or whatever. Andy's reasons seem to be a mixture of a lot of things. And New York loves Andy. Not every player gets the love that Andy gets and he has to settle for Old Timers Day. Somehow I don't think he's ready. That post-season performance was amazing. I think Andy comes back. I think the real consideration for him is going out on top or taking the chance of not going out on top. I think that helped Mussina decide to retire after his 20-win season. But Andy is Andy. I mean, he pitched the final game at the Old Stadium and he loved that even though they didn’t make the playoffs…and he was hurt the second half and he came back…perhaps to prove himself yet again or to play baseball or to play in the new Stadium. Or whatever. Andy’s reasons seem to be a mixture of a lot of things.

And New York loves Andy. Not every player gets the love that Andy gets and he has to settle for Old Timers Day. Somehow I don’t think he’s ready. That post-season performance was amazing.

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