Comments on: What the Blue Jays seek for Halladay http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 15:59:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ajmares http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698650 ajmares Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:37:46 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698650 Montero straight up is not enough but giving up one of Joba or Hughes straight up is realistic. Both Hughes or Joba at least would be a dominating closer or setup guy for the Jays and likely end up being very good starters as well. I have to beleive the Yankees are going to try and convince the Jays to take a pkg of Joba,Romine & one of Gardner and Melky. No way is Montero going to be included in ANY deal for Halladay period. Montero straight up is not enough but giving up one of Joba or Hughes straight up is realistic. Both Hughes or Joba at least would be a dominating closer or setup guy for the Jays and likely end up being very good starters as well. I have to beleive the Yankees are going to try and convince the Jays to take a pkg of Joba,Romine & one of Gardner and Melky. No way is Montero going to be included in ANY deal for Halladay period.

]]> By: ScottyD http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698597 ScottyD Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:42:28 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698597 What's the deal here?? Has anyone here ever seen Doc pitch??? That is, of course, other than watching him tear your teams a new one? I'm a Jays fan, and I for one know how terrible Toronto's offense is......and Doc still beats the best teams in baseball ( consistently ). If he was with the Yanks or Red Sox......or even the Rangers, he would put up 25 wins...easy. By the way....he does have 4 pitches, and 3 of them are fastballs. ( 4 seamer, cutter, and a sinker )....the other is the best curve in baseball. Decline my ass!! I think he goes to the Red Sox..because their top young arms are proven ( Buckholz, Bard ). Also the prospect Kelly is very interesting because he could fill one of two holes the Jays need filled. What’s the deal here?? Has anyone here ever seen Doc pitch??? That is, of course, other than watching him tear your teams a new one? I’m a Jays fan, and I for one know how terrible Toronto’s offense is……and Doc still beats the best teams in baseball ( consistently ). If he was with the Yanks or Red Sox……or even the Rangers, he would put up 25 wins…easy. By the way….he does have 4 pitches, and 3 of them are fastballs. ( 4 seamer, cutter, and a sinker )….the other is the best curve in baseball. Decline my ass!!
I think he goes to the Red Sox..because their top young arms are proven ( Buckholz, Bard ). Also the prospect Kelly is very interesting because he could fill one of two holes the Jays need filled.

]]> By: CaptainJeter http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698545 CaptainJeter Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:52:31 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698545 I agree. Any team like the Yankees who is interested in Halladay has the advantage. An interested team can wait and make a deal for him on their terms. Teams realize how valuable their prospects are and most aren’t willing to put op the propects and cash to sign Halladay long term. A deal for Halladay all depends on how desperate the Blue Jays are to convert Halladay into prospects. The Yankees should take their chances and hope Halladay hits the open market for 2011. They need to keep their promising young talent and consider Hughes and Chamberlin untouchable. I want Halladay, but not at the expense of Montero , Chamberlain or Hughes. Give the Jackson, Romine, McAllister, Gardner and Pena . I agree. Any team like the Yankees who is interested in Halladay has the advantage. An interested team can wait and make a deal for him on their terms. Teams realize how valuable their prospects are and most aren’t willing to put op the propects and cash to sign Halladay long term. A deal for Halladay all depends on how desperate the Blue Jays are to convert Halladay into prospects. The Yankees should take their chances and hope Halladay hits the open market for 2011. They need to keep their promising young talent and consider Hughes and Chamberlin untouchable.

I want Halladay, but not at the expense of Montero , Chamberlain or Hughes. Give the Jackson, Romine, McAllister, Gardner and Pena .

]]> By: mr http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698281 mr Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:22:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698281 wow! I dont know where to start. It seems like most people here dont value prospects, and dont value Halladay. The NYY hace CC, so they are not in a hurry to deal for him. They will need to send Joba over. They are just their to drive up the price for Boston. For the Yanks it would take: Joba, A-Jax, Montero, and a lower prospect. You know why? Because they are trading for the best pitcher in baseball. The RS, itd take: Buchholz, Kelly, Reddick, and lower level prospects. wow! I dont know where to start. It seems like most people here dont value prospects, and dont value Halladay. The NYY hace CC, so they are not in a hurry to deal for him. They will need to send Joba over. They are just their to drive up the price for Boston. For the Yanks it would take: Joba, A-Jax, Montero, and a lower prospect. You know why? Because they are trading for the best pitcher in baseball. The RS, itd take: Buchholz, Kelly, Reddick, and lower level prospects.

]]> By: Celebrating a Halladay weekend | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698277 Celebrating a Halladay weekend | River Avenue Blues Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:01:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698277 [...] Halladay available, how the team is willing to trade him within in the AL East and how they want a Major League-ready arm and bat as well as other prospects in [...] [...] Halladay available, how the team is willing to trade him within in the AL East and how they want a Major League-ready arm and bat as well as other prospects in [...]

]]> By: Dr. Lyle Redding http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698223 Dr. Lyle Redding Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:40:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698223 Every one of you are smoking pinstripes.. again! AJax is not worth 10% of Halladay, puuhhhleeease. How is it that EVERY blogger on this site thinks Juba and Hughes are both, individually, worth more than Buchholz??? There is a reason only one of the 3 prospects was a starter at years’ end.. and the Yanks really needed starter depth (ok, at least in the regular season). Someone please admit it — too many news media stories = too much prospect hype. It will take Juba + AJax + 2 lower prospects for Halladay. AND THE REDSOX OFFER OF BUCHHOLZ + KELLY + 2 PROSPECTS WOULD BE BETTER! REALLY….! Every one of you are smoking pinstripes.. again!

AJax is not worth 10% of Halladay, puuhhhleeease.

How is it that EVERY blogger on this site thinks Juba and Hughes are both, individually, worth more than Buchholz??? There is a reason only one of the 3 prospects was a starter at years’ end.. and the Yanks really needed starter depth (ok, at least in the regular season).

Someone please admit it — too many news media stories = too much prospect hype. It will take Juba + AJax + 2 lower prospects for Halladay.

AND THE REDSOX OFFER OF BUCHHOLZ + KELLY + 2 PROSPECTS WOULD BE BETTER! REALLY….!

]]> By: Dr. Lyle Redding http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698215 Dr. Lyle Redding Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:29:31 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698215 Every one of you are smoking pinstripes.. again! AJax is not worth 10% of Halladay, puuhhhleeease. How is it that EVERY blogger on this site thinks Juba and Hughes are both, individually, worth more than Buchholz??? There is a reason only one of the 3 prospects was a starter at years' end.. and the Yanks really needed starter depth (ok, at least in the regular season). Someone please admit it -- too many news media stories = too much prospect hype. It will take Juba + AJax + 2 lower prospects for Halladay. AND THE REDSOX OFFER OF BUCHHOLZ + KELLY + 2 PROSPECTS WOULD BE BETTER! REALLY....! Every one of you are smoking pinstripes.. again!

AJax is not worth 10% of Halladay, puuhhhleeease.

How is it that EVERY blogger on this site thinks Juba and Hughes are both, individually, worth more than Buchholz??? There is a reason only one of the 3 prospects was a starter at years’ end.. and the Yanks really needed starter depth (ok, at least in the regular season).

Someone please admit it — too many news media stories = too much prospect hype. It will take Juba + AJax + 2 lower prospects for Halladay.

AND THE REDSOX OFFER OF BUCHHOLZ + KELLY + 2 PROSPECTS WOULD BE BETTER! REALLY….!

]]> By: matt http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698172 matt Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:21:33 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698172 i agree with montero and one of those pitchers being too much.. how about packaging chamberlain, montero and kennedy for king felix.. the mariners wont be able to afford him, and hes young as it is so for the yankees itd be a pitcher they could have for another ten years and be their 1-2, i mean if you are going to give up stuff for halladay, why not go with a younger and better (no offense to doc on this one).. it just makes more sense.. why not go younger, king felix is the way to go because hes going to bolt the second he gets a chance and from wut i hear he is seeking 200m range i agree with montero and one of those pitchers being too much.. how about packaging chamberlain, montero and kennedy for king felix.. the mariners wont be able to afford him, and hes young as it is so for the yankees itd be a pitcher they could have for another ten years and be their 1-2, i mean if you are going to give up stuff for halladay, why not go with a younger and better (no offense to doc on this one).. it just makes more sense.. why not go younger, king felix is the way to go because hes going to bolt the second he gets a chance and from wut i hear he is seeking 200m range

]]> By: Real World http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698169 Real World Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:18:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698169 He's exceptional. Arguably the best pitcher in the entire league. That doesn't change the fact that he's going to be 33 this coming season. Is he worth a $100 over 5 years, which is what he might demand in an extension? If he cost Montero, Hughes, and Jackson, then he won't be with the Yankees. I think Montero could be labeled as "untouchable" by the Yankees. I think everyone else is on the table. He’s exceptional. Arguably the best pitcher in the entire league. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s going to be 33 this coming season. Is he worth a $100 over 5 years, which is what he might demand in an extension?

If he cost Montero, Hughes, and Jackson, then he won’t be with the Yankees. I think Montero could be labeled as “untouchable” by the Yankees. I think everyone else is on the table.

]]> By: SP http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-the-blue-jays-seek-for-halladay-20508/#comment-698156 SP Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:47:48 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=20508#comment-698156 You people are hilarious. What has baseball come to where a couple prospects are worth more than future HOFers, especially to the freaking YANKEES? Doc is NOT "declining". He's 32 and is actually getting BETTER. A couple years ago he added a cutter and went from elite to superhuman robot awesome. These types of pitchers don't just fall off. They pitch into their 40s easily. I don't think the league realizes just how good he is, which is why a part of me, as a Jays fan, hopes he ends up with you guys and he finally gets the attention he deserves. Go to his Wiki page and read what his peers think of him. His work ethic and mental preparation are unsurpassed by any current pitcher. He's a class person as well. Pitchers like him come around a couple times a generation and when you get the chance to get him, you do it. If you want him, it'll cost Montero, Hughes, and Jackson, but you'll forget about them when you're winning multiple WS with him. You people are hilarious. What has baseball come to where a couple prospects are worth more than future HOFers, especially to the freaking YANKEES? Doc is NOT “declining”. He’s 32 and is actually getting BETTER. A couple years ago he added a cutter and went from elite to superhuman robot awesome. These types of pitchers don’t just fall off. They pitch into their 40s easily.

I don’t think the league realizes just how good he is, which is why a part of me, as a Jays fan, hopes he ends up with you guys and he finally gets the attention he deserves. Go to his Wiki page and read what his peers think of him. His work ethic and mental preparation are unsurpassed by any current pitcher. He’s a class person as well. Pitchers like him come around a couple times a generation and when you get the chance to get him, you do it. If you want him, it’ll cost Montero, Hughes, and Jackson, but you’ll forget about them when you’re winning multiple WS with him.

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