Comments on: What Went Right: Gardbrera http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 15:59:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Open Thread: Recapping what went right and wrong | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-799942 Open Thread: Recapping what went right and wrong | River Avenue Blues Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:02:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-799942 [...] Gardbrera [...] [...] Gardbrera [...]

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683934 pete Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:22:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683934 ideally, the yankees will keep melky as the versatile, startable 4th outfielder and gardner as the pure def rep and pinch runner, acquire cameron, and keep damon and matsui. Under this construction, Matsui is the primary DH, Damon the primary LF, and Cameron the primary CF. Having all 5 of these guys gives us the flexibility to rest matsui frequently, half-rest or full-rest damon, and rest cameron, thus enabling girardi to maximize the production out of all of those guys. My guess is that cameron at 37 is not likely a +10 CFer if he starts 155 games, but if you cut that down to 140, then maybe he is, or maybe he's even better. Ditto damon. If he starts 4 games a week in LF, he might be able to scratch a -5 UZR and also provide better offense than if he starts 6 games a week in LF. As for Matsui, he's a remarkably consistent hitter, but he's so on the brink of shattering into a million pieces that his production might be maximized if he only starts 4/5 games a week at DH, and serves as the primary bench bat on his off days. This team is no longer under torre's "guidance" - we don't (and won't) need to have one starter at each position and everyone else be the backup. Girardi's great at shuffling guys around, and i think if you're stuck with old stopgap-type guys, you might as well have enough of them to allow them to take the pressure off one another. ideally, the yankees will keep melky as the versatile, startable 4th outfielder and gardner as the pure def rep and pinch runner, acquire cameron, and keep damon and matsui. Under this construction, Matsui is the primary DH, Damon the primary LF, and Cameron the primary CF. Having all 5 of these guys gives us the flexibility to rest matsui frequently, half-rest or full-rest damon, and rest cameron, thus enabling girardi to maximize the production out of all of those guys. My guess is that cameron at 37 is not likely a +10 CFer if he starts 155 games, but if you cut that down to 140, then maybe he is, or maybe he’s even better. Ditto damon. If he starts 4 games a week in LF, he might be able to scratch a -5 UZR and also provide better offense than if he starts 6 games a week in LF. As for Matsui, he’s a remarkably consistent hitter, but he’s so on the brink of shattering into a million pieces that his production might be maximized if he only starts 4/5 games a week at DH, and serves as the primary bench bat on his off days. This team is no longer under torre’s “guidance” – we don’t (and won’t) need to have one starter at each position and everyone else be the backup. Girardi’s great at shuffling guys around, and i think if you’re stuck with old stopgap-type guys, you might as well have enough of them to allow them to take the pressure off one another.

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683907 pete Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:09:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683907 and wayyyyyy better defense. and wayyyyyy better defense.

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683904 pete Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683904 eh, i'd rather have defensive reps at the top of their defensive game (gardner and pena) and a bat than sacrifice defense w/ my utility guy for offense. Plus pena is younger and likely to remain where he is or get better in terms of his most important skill (defense), whereas hairston's hitting decline years. Throw in the extra money for hairston, and i'll keep pena. kthxbye eh, i’d rather have defensive reps at the top of their defensive game (gardner and pena) and a bat than sacrifice defense w/ my utility guy for offense. Plus pena is younger and likely to remain where he is or get better in terms of his most important skill (defense), whereas hairston’s hitting decline years. Throw in the extra money for hairston, and i’ll keep pena. kthxbye

]]> By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683820 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:19:14 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683820 Belkytin. Belkytin.

]]> By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683818 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:18:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683818 Axisa run Bartertown. Axisa run Bartertown.

]]> By: JMK aka The Overshare http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683548 JMK aka The Overshare Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:27:00 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683548 Total upgrade. Cameron is nowhere near an inferior option to Gardbrera. There's not a single thing Gardner does better than Cameron except steal bases. I don't think he'll ever be a guy who can hit well enough to justify starting. Melky has about 50,000 plate appearances, and is just about the same exact player he was as a rookie. Sure, maybe he'll improve a tiny bit, but Melky doesn't excel at anything. He's average at all kinds of things, but his OBP is poor, his power is average, his speed is average, his defense is good, his arm is strong but wild. Cameron plays a better CF, has more power and general hitting skills. He'll probably be available on a 1-year deal. How can someone be fooled by Melky's streakiness or Gardner's total ineptitude with the bat? Total upgrade. Cameron is nowhere near an inferior option to Gardbrera. There’s not a single thing Gardner does better than Cameron except steal bases. I don’t think he’ll ever be a guy who can hit well enough to justify starting.

Melky has about 50,000 plate appearances, and is just about the same exact player he was as a rookie. Sure, maybe he’ll improve a tiny bit, but Melky doesn’t excel at anything. He’s average at all kinds of things, but his OBP is poor, his power is average, his speed is average, his defense is good, his arm is strong but wild.

Cameron plays a better CF, has more power and general hitting skills. He’ll probably be available on a 1-year deal. How can someone be fooled by Melky’s streakiness or Gardner’s total ineptitude with the bat?

]]> By: themgmt http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683538 themgmt Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:22:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683538 I'd take Cameron over both. I'd prefer trading Melky and letting Gardner roam CF until Jackson is called up (whether that be May, July, September, or 2011). I see little value in having both Melky and Gardner on the roster, with Austin Jackson backing them up. I’d take Cameron over both. I’d prefer trading Melky and letting Gardner roam CF until Jackson is called up (whether that be May, July, September, or 2011). I see little value in having both Melky and Gardner on the roster, with Austin Jackson backing them up.

]]> By: JMK aka The Overshare http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683529 JMK aka The Overshare Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:17:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683529 Ohhh shit... Ohhh shit…

]]> By: JMK aka The Overshare http://riveraveblues.com/2009/11/what-went-right-gardbrera-19808/#comment-683523 JMK aka The Overshare Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:16 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=19808#comment-683523 Catwoman frowns upon your shenanigans. Catwoman frowns upon your shenanigans.

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