Comments on: Yanks won’t rework Girardi’s deal this off-season

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[...] Jeter’s contract. While the Yanks might bring back all three of their major free agents, they won’t extend manager Joe Girardi just [...]

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By: Benjamin Kabak

Benjamin Kabak — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:34:51 +0000

Yeah, you tell ‘em, Bo. It sucks paying $13 million to a catcher whose value was well over that mark and who has given the Yanks more value over his career than that which the team has paid.

By: YankFan

YankFan — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:41:36 +0000

Could it be Cash getting total control in 2005?

By: Steve S

Steve S — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:21:04 +0000

How much will it burn them? Its not as if Jeter would accept 3 years at $10M per this year. He has almost as much leverage now as he will have next year even if he matches his production. The fact that hell be a free agent is tempered by the fact that he’ll be a year older and his value anywhere else is much lesser than it is here.

And the only thing they got hurt with Posada and Mo on was maybe the years, but I really don’t know how much shorter an extension would have been. Its all conjecture but the Yankees never get discounts from these guys, whether its in the midst of a contract or at the conclusion.

By: Bo

Bo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:13:49 +0000

This organizational philosophy has also burnt them a few times here recently. Posada, Mo.

It’ll happen again if Jeter does what he did this yr. Same if Girardi wins again.

But they got the dough to do that. They wont get buried like Toronto did by rushing into deals with Wells and Rios.

By: Bo

Bo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:11:04 +0000

Not to defend Girardi but what manager working today does anything “revolutionary”?

He made some good moves this post season. The 3 days rest and holding Gaudin for extras was good. Hairston in Game 2 paid off. Sticking with Matsui paid off. Sticking with Marte.

He also made some awful moves. Aceves for Robertson. Pinch running for A-Rod. Leaving Burnett in the Ana game.

No manager is perfect. Its about winning in the end.

By: Bo

Bo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:05:38 +0000

Hes an over manager to the tenth degree but you cant quibble with results. I don’t see his being a “lame duck” as a problem. The lame duck that should be worried is the guy who won 70 games in Queens. Thats a lame duck. Not a guy coming off 100+ wins and a title.

By: jonny

jonny — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:03:49 +0000

I’m not sure if I’d call Girardi a “lame duck.” That implies that he won’t be coming back for 2011. From that bastion of truth Wikipedia:

“A lame duck is an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.”

I.e., first term presidents aren’t usually lame ducks until after they lose reelection. Second term president’s can become lame ducks sooner because they have no chance of being reelected. Lame ducks usually have little to no power because they know they won’t be around much longer (and everyone else knows, too). Only if we had a new manager lined up for 2011 would Girardi be in that position.

By: Steve S

Steve S — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:56:19 +0000

I also think that Wang didnt crack the majors until he was 25 which meant that he wouldnt hit free agency until 30-31, which would most likely been at the tail end of his peak, even assuming health. Cano was different because his contract bought out the arb years and a couple years of free agency through his age 29 season, again thats through his peak. He’ll would have been thirty when he is a free agent again. Thats the type of economic decisions they need to keep making, using their advantage not just against the other teams but in attempting to sign players and keep players.