Dec
13
Football open thread
ByThe Kellen Clemens led Jets are in Tampa at 1pm ET, but the Giants don’t play until a little later tonight. Use this thread for all your gridiron talk.
The Kellen Clemens led Jets are in Tampa at 1pm ET, but the Giants don’t play until a little later tonight. Use this thread for all your gridiron talk.
It’s times like these I wonder why I’m a Bills fan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masochism
Can someone explain to me why baseball radio broadcasters are expected to be non-partial to their team, but football announcers are blatant “homers” and no one cares?
This from Buster Olney’s blog today (emphasis mine):
“Heard this: There are a handful of teams willing to give veteran outfielder Brian Giles a deal for 2010, and the Reds and Yankees might be among those. The primary question about Giles’s future employment is whether he’ll get a major league contract before spring training, or a minor league deal.”
Where would we rate this on the bullshit meter? 11 out of 10?
I don’t how much he has left plus he is a douche, but he is a career 136 OPS+ player. Wouldn’t hurt to check him out as a DH. Maybe a low base deal with some incentives?
Brian Giles the awesome masher is long gone. I guess if we need some AAA depth then maybe, but its hard to see him being good enough at this stage in his career to ever actually play in YSIII
What kind of injury did he have last year? He had good stats as recently as 2008, so maybe there is something left. You’re right, though, there’s probably not much. Is till could see some team to try to get something out of him.
Agreed, could definitely see the guy getting the job in the NL like the Reds as Olney reports, or maybe some non-contender in the AL who needs a part time fielder/DH.
But not the Yankees.
There are definately worse options out there, some team will bring him in. Not sure if he could play the field anymore, so DH for a team in AL would make sense.
This would be awesome………if it was 2001.
And steroids weren’t banned.
Wow I never realized how many good years he’s had.
I guess that’s what playing your career in Pitt and SD will do to you.
He was a TOP 10 hitter and nobody realized it. Also severly underpaid.
He used to be like, the Manny Ramirez of the National League for a few years. I thought he was bound for the HOF back in the day. But he regressed when he went to San Diego into “just” a solid, above average player and then went through a fairly typical decline as he got older.
I always liked the guy despite all the bad juju he seemed to generate.
Bad juju? Like beating up women? Poor guy.
/sheds a tear for Giles
(likely roid rage)
I always really liked him, his stats from 99-02 are otherworldly, really a shame he didn’t finish better then 13th in the MVP vote.
.294-.450-.622, 38 HR, 135 BB, 74 K, 13th in MVP voting in 2002.
Salary in 2002: $8,063,003
Pirates record in 2002, 72-89. That may have something to do with the poor MVP showing.
I mean, if the Yankees wanted Brian Giles, why wouldn’t they want Johnny Gomes or even Eric Hinske instead?
Even if he does have gas in the tank, there are much better, significantly younger options that could be had for a comparable salary (maybe $1M or $2M more since Giles might be willing to play for the minimum salary)
Gomes seemed to make sense – then I looked at his fielding numbers vs Hinske’s
This article was a revelation:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....rket-again
Had no idea Hinske had above-average range in the OF.
Gomes on the other hand? Here’s his UZR over the last 3 seasons in the OF:
-23.8
-57.4 (!)
-23.4
Gomes sure looks like a platoon-DH only – makes Jack Cust look like a Gold Glove outfielder
Giles was beyond awful in 2009 – including an awful UZR. I’d assume it was at least partly due to injuries, but at his age, I don’t see much bounce-back potential
For a bench role, I’d pick Hinske
On board with Hinske as a bench option. It would be great if we could steal Murton away from Japan, though.
Was his contract sold to Japan? Then they have to pass him through waivers and the Yanks can put in a claim. Just like the Redsox did with Kevin Millar, IIRC.
He’s already out there, signed with a Japanese team and everything.
Didn’t catch that. So he passed through waivers already?
Turner Gill takes the head coaching job at Kansas. Awesome move by Kansas IMHO.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/.....id=4737280
Agreed. Turner Gill is a really good coach, he turned Buffalo into a not-horrendous program, and that’s saying something.
I never knew that Buffalo was a D1 school until last year, so yeah, what he did was impressive.
And Upstate New York is such a recruiting hotbed for football. All kinds of guys are dying to go to Buffalo.
He must be thrilled to get out of there (not that Kansas is awesome or anything).
He must be thrilled to get out of there (not that Kansas is awesome or anything).
Mangino put that program back on the map, though, making Gill’s job a buttload easier, because elite prospects do actually consider going there now.
Think of it this way: Aqib Talib was a first rounder two years ago. Dezmon Briscoe has a good shot to be a first rounder this draft. That would be two first round picks in the past 5 years.
Kansas had one first rounder in the FIFTEEN years before that (Dana Stubblefield).
Yeah, definitely. His job is infinitely easier now. It’s not Middle Tennessee State or anything—it’s a well-known program. He’s a smart guy with charisma and a good scheme at a place with high expectations. I think players will gravitate toward that.
Still, personally, you wouldn’t catch me in the Midwest if I had offers to play on either coast. Just sayin’.
Still, personally, you wouldn’t catch me in the Midwest if I had offers to play on either coast. Just sayin’.
Agreed.
The only time I had seen Buffalo play was back in the 90s – they got crushed by Boston University at Nickerson Field (which was part of what used to be Braves Field – where the the Boston Braves used to play).
Here’s the history of the program:
http://ubspectrum.com/article/34331
Had no idea former Jet great Gerry Philbin played there.
Gill’s done a tremendous job there – and he deserves a shot at a big-time program. A class act – and a stark contrast to Mangino
Seconded. Gill knows how to scheme and coach. Now, he’ll have a power-conference school’s cache to use in recruiting.
Nebraska’s solid but far from all the way back; Colorado’s still a mess, Missouri is solid but still Mizzou, K-State’s subpar; Iowa State’s irrelevant. Gill could turn KU into a power again and run that division.
I also think the fact that Gill is African American will significantly help his recruitment. You’d have to think that will have a certain appeal to other top prospects who are black.
I hope that doesn’t come off as at all racist, its just that there is such a ridiculous drought of black coaches in NCAA football.
I do.
It’s similar to hiring Randy Shannon at Miami. He can speak to those kids in the Pork and Beans projects (and the rest of South Florida) in a way other coaches can’t, which explains why the Canes have had huge recruiting hauls despite not being successful on the field in a while
Prediction time: Canes are going to be straight-up nasty next season. National Championship game.
(Not a Canes fan.)
Yup, most of the current talent is still sophomores and freshman. Canes won’t lose much to the draft.
An extra year of experience for Jacory, the wideouts, Sean Spence, Brandon Harris, Ray Ray Armstrong, etc… good times.
I’m a UT fan (living in Texas for half your life does that to ‘ya), but I definitely wouldn’t mind The U being a legit BCS contender. The NCAA is just more fun when Miami is playing at a high level.
I DVR’d the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary that aired last night about Hurricanes football in the 80′s. Looking forward to watching it.
I too did the same thing. Pretty sure it was made by the same guys who made Cocaine Cowboys (the greatest documentary ever made IMHO), so it should almost assuredly be fucking awesome.
How ridiculous would it be if the Jets ended up somehow tied for first place at the end of the day?
C’mon Carolina and Jacksonville!
I think we should probably be rooting for Miami and not Jacksonville.
Having the Dolphins also at 7-6 making it a three-way tie instead of a two-way tie isn’t great, but dropping the Jags to 7-6 instead of 8-5 is worth it overall. The wildcard is a more realistic goal than the division at the moment anyway, because we don’t own any of the tiebreakers with the Pats/Fish.
Hmm. I don’t know. You may be right but its very difficult for me to start rooting for the Dolphins in week 14 when we still have a valid shot to win the AFC East if a couple things go our way. At least as long as the Jets win, they’re very much in the discussion. That’s good enough for me at this point.
Dang Salty, the Bronco’s are getting worked early.
CHONE’s projections for pitchers were put up recently, and they seem to be as negative and pessimistic as one would expect.
http://www.baseballprojection.com/
Ugh. I guess they think Al will have a “down” year. That makes a ton of sense.
I ask this in all seriousness, is there any player CHONE projects to have a notably better year in 2010 than 2009? I can’t find any, not that I’ve liked all that hard besides reviewing the Yankees’ pitchers.
Most of our pitchers should go for a 6.50 ERA. Sounds about right?
(FWIW, they predict Wieters to be markedly better in 2010 than he was in 2009.)
Heh, Matt Wieters … that’s the type of player it takes. The system would be officially broke if he projected to be replacement level-ish, no one would ever give it any credit.
I could almost believe that the guys that run that system manually overwrote whatever it said Wieters would do, just to save face.
Only one player on the A’s even projects to hit over .270—Kurt Suzuki. I’m not saying they’ll be world-beaters, but c’mon, one guy hitting over .270? Really?
And they didn’t even predict Strasburgh!
Not a single player on the Angels hits .300, either.
These ratings are ridiculous. Who takes these seriously?
CHONE is filled with hate and loathing. It is vindictive, negative, and sees nothing good in mankind.
It’s like the bitter, lesser sibling of Bill James’ predictions, doing everything it can to make life miserable for all those around it.
True. It’s like they look at Bill James and go for the inverse.
Mo with an era over 3?
George Kontos making 18 starts? Considering the TJ surgery, I’ll take the under.
Meh, Bill James predicts 75 guys to have Cy Young-caliber seasons (exaggeration, but you get the point).
And they are all Red Sox.
Drew Brees is just a beauty to watch when he is on. Hope he loses his mojo in time for next Sunday’s game.
+1
I’m worried bout the season though. Whatev happens happens but let’s hope Philly does indeed win tonight.
The loss against the Giants stings. I don’t see us winning at New Orleans, honestly. We just have to win the other three games which will be hard enough. The Chargers are hot, that will be a pretty tough game today. I’m guite concerned about the season, too.
3-1 would be ideal, but like you said – it’s a huge task. That’s what kills about the 2nd Gmen loss(which I was at). They played a great game, just pwned the ‘boys.
2-2 is more likely, but does 10 games get them in the playoffs?
Arg, all they had to do was beat the g-men ;(
We should have won both games againts the Giants. 10 wins might be enough if Philly wins today, but there is not one sure game left on our schedule, so winning two more will be hard enough.
Week 2, definitely. Threw that game away, there’s no question bout it. Kind of threw the Broncos game away too because of Jason Garret being an idiot. This past game, they just outplayed Dallas. Sucked, but what could you do. There was some bad calls on both sides, but Gmen played well.
Didn’t understand why the Cowboys kept running the ball so much, Romo was dominating, give him more chances. I know you have to keep it somewhat balanced but Romo was tearing them up! I’m glad him and Roy worked well(even though there was probably a roy Will offensive interference one or two times) but they looked good until that last play where he just overthrew Roy.
I had my RW jersey on so I was having a good ol’ time.
The Skins/Eagles are probably the most winnable games left. I’m real excited for the Chargers today though. Should be fun. New Orleans is tough obviously, but they can’t sleep on the ‘boys. Almost lost to the Skins last week.
You can argue we could have won all the games we lost. Green Bay game was winnable, too.
Romo threw 55 times last week, how many more passes should he have had?
Skins and Eagels are definately the most winnable games left, but I could see us losing those games. We almost lost at home to the Skins and as you said, they were close against the Saints. Hopefully we can win today to make this stupid “Cowboys can’t win in December” talk stop. Kinda reminds me of A-Rod and the playoffs.
He should have thrown like 75 man!!! Hah. After MB3 fumbled, I was so pissed. Just felt like they couldn’t get anything going with the run, so screw it. Just keep passing. I guess the play calling was fine.
Definitely though. The Cowboys could go 3-1, or lose all 4. That’s just the way they are.
I also get tired of the December talk. It’s true that they’ve played well, but that doesn’t mean they can’t. Whole new season, previous years don’t matter. It’s also funny how Gmen fans get at you about it too when the Giants are 12-13 in December under Eli(got that from a friend, trusting it’s correct).
‘true that they have not played well’ in that last paragraph
fixed
You were there and not me, so I take your word for it. Just thougt 55 passes is a lot and maybe some rushing would have helped.
The inconsistency sucks, but it has been like this for years now.
I don’t care what the Giants fans say, I fear it’s in the player’s head already. At least Romo had a very good game last week, so he doesn’t get the blame this time.
Kellen Clemens is costing himself an assload of money today.
Goodbye, “Let’s give this guy a shot and see if he can be a diamond in the rough starting QB”, hello career backup.
Heh. Schaub has thrown for 336 yards… in the 1st half.
Too late to save their season. Or Greg Kubiak’s job.
Haha oh man, fuckin’ NoMaas. They just can’t help themselves when it comes to some people:
http://nomaas.org/blog/wp-cont.....philly.jpg
Just saw that myself. I read his name before seeing the picture and immediately knew what the picture would be about.
Colts’ fans are so fuckin boring! That stadium is super quiet. You can hear every single thing the players are doing. And the Colts are winning too.
Damn those quiet Colts fans. They’re almost as bad as Yankee fans during the World Series.
Not even close. At least when the Yanks did something good, the crowd cheered. The Colts fans are quiet for every TD or 1st down.
Not that the Colts need the help, but from a team performance standpoint, they should’ve never left the RCA Dome. That place had a reputation for being fucking LOUD.
Ugh.
Shonn Greene: yes yes yes yes YES YES YES YES OH NO OH NO OH SHIT
Sound like JMK’s date…
We wear diapers. For protection.
“You say I’m premature, I just call it ecstasy
I wear a rubber at all times, it’s a necessity”
My garden apartment driveway: where the rubber meets the road.
Damnit Knowshon! Stop.Stutter.Stepping!
He’s struggling today. The Indy D is good and he’s kinda hurt (and tired with Buckhalter hurt again) but he is definitely not playing well. Falling down and stopping for no reason all over.
Ugh sloppy game today. Orton goes down so fuckin easily.
Ugh now he completely fucked up that time on pass protection. I guess I’m being tough on him as he is a rookie.
He’s been tiring too quickly also.
/rants over
Josh Freeman has a bright future, IMO, but he needs to develop a better mental clock. His line is getting shredded, but he’s getting pulled down from behind way too much. You gotta throw those balls away.
He had the same problems at K-State. Great arm, questionable pocket awareness, difficulty reading coverages. If he can figure out some of the mental parts (and hopefully he does), that dude can be a star.
I agree. I look forward to watching him in the future. But now? Watching Tampa play football is like sea urchin, it’s even worse than it looks.
Darrelle Revis: Straight filthy.
Great, great draft pick.
I’m so glad that he’s getting all the attention he deserves now, not that it would be easy to deny him that.
He is the fucking Man.
Revis and David Harris were our entire draft that year.
Quality over quantity, holmes.
Definitely.
I loved the 07 draft because it involved getting Cleveland’s 2008 first round pick. Yet somehow, Cleveland had a solid year when that should have been a top 15 pick ;(
Stuckey too, no?
Yeah, him too. Not a bad lottery ticket, all things considered.
I played with the Jets on Madden the other day. Against the Lions (I wanted an easy win), they got 10 picks, which would have broke the NFL record for a game. Revis had 3 picks and 2 TDs. He’s beastly even in games.
Uh, what the fuck? Orton fell down trying to handoff the ball to the RB. Dude’s weak. He reminds of Brian Griese. Just walks out of bounds everytime he’s near the sidelines. Also, he just falls down when touched by a defensive players.
Aaaaand he just threw a pick in the endzone. Great.
Fuckin Orton sucks against good teams. He’s a beneficiary of an easy AFC West schedule.
Anyone in New York/New Jersey —how are the roads? I have some errands to run but I’m borrowing a friend’s car and their breaks are bad, the tires bald and the check engine light comes on all the time.
Not sure I want to risk it for some groceries…
On the 22nd floor in the Bronx. My windows are all covered in rain; limited visibility.
I’d avoid going out if I were you, but at the same time, genital warts are a bitch, you should probably go get that cream you need.
Maybe you should call your local tire salesman?
We all know pitcher wins are overrated. Do you guys feel the same way for QB wins? Orton is one of the winningest QBs in history for the number of games he’s started but he really does stink.
Stop bitching about Orton, you could have Matt Cassel throwing the football.
Pfft. I think maybe Cassel could have succeeded with the Broncos offense. Good all around. This aint the Chiefs.
Anyway, yea I need to stop complaining about Orton but I still want Jay Cutler so it pisses me off when he does dumb shit all the time.
Counterargument: Orton’s a free agent at season’s end.
Cassel was given a 63M extension as part of the trade to KC. Orton may suck, but at least you’re not wedded to the guy.
That’s true. But then we still have a QB problem for next year.
Having no QB >>>>>>>>>>>> being locked into a bad QB
See also: Jake Delhomme and the Carolina Panthers
Agreed there.
You guys get a shit ton of draft picks next year, right?
Not a shit ton, just one.
It’s the first rounder, though.
Maybe. I’d argue that the Broncos got more out of Orton then could realistically expected.
Eh, Idk. I expected him to play well, not great but well, with the weapons the Broncos have. I am happy about his picks though. He’s had more recently but he was great to begin the year with.
Before the season, many didn’t expect the Broncos to content for a playoff spot. I’d say they got to where they are now because of Orton not costing them games. He is a bus driver who benefits from the talent around him and that is all you could really expect from him.
Those “many” were the so called experts. I predicted a 9-7 record because I thought the D would be at least average. The D has outperformed my expectations so far so we’ll see if the team overall does too. Maybe it was bias but I expected the Broncos to contend for a spot. Never liked Orton though.
You really want Cutler?
Yea, I do. I really thought he and McDaniels were gonna tear the NFL up.
I think McDaniels recognized Cutler’s weaknesses and that’s why he was looking for a new QB. The guy just makes too many mistakes.
Cutler makes Brett Favre look like a passive, dink-and-dunk “game manager”.
Jay Cutler doesn’t have any fun out there either, so it’s harder to overlook. When Favre throws 3 backbreaking picks in a game, who cares, he’s just having fun.
Just throwin the ol’ ball around the ol’ ballyard there
In his Wrangler jeans.
1 pill, 24 hours, 0 heartburn.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the 2nd Romeo Crennel Coors Light commercial is one of the greatest cinematic achievements in the history of mankind.
If I knew, I’d tell ya.
One of my favorite Reno 911 moments:
http://www.beaned.com/videoshow.php?id=1032
Whoever had B-Marsh in fantasy today must be very very very happy. This guys is a beast and really hard to bring down. He has 15 catches with 2 mins still to go in the 3rd quarter.
Seriously. He’s been the best player of this game.
Agreed. Brandon Marshall is a great receiver, and any team would be lucky to have him.
(grins, rubs palms back and forth in anticipation)
Pervert.
Only for you, baby.
By the way, did you get that swing I sent you? If it’s too complex to set up, just leave it in the box and I’ll put it together later.
That reminds me of when I was in high school, I always saw a hook hanging directly above my Dad and stepmom’s bed. I knew EXACTLY why that hook was there.
/gross memories’d
Your dad’s just a man with needs.
Indeed. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree either. I have one over my own bed now.
Thanks for the inspiration, Dad!
Don’t worry, I had a few girlfriends help me out with it.
Good.
Have them stick around; I’ll be over soon.
True story: Michael Jackson invented special shoes to be able to do that exaggerated lean in the Smooth Criminal video, and he owns (owned?) a patent on them.
That is indeed somewhat interesting. I’ll be sure to store that into my Useless Trivia Memory Bank, Section 2,374: Michael Jackson.
Broncos – first team to intercept Peyton Manning three times since Nov. 11, 2007 (San Diego, 6).
Kellen Clemens: not a great quarterback
This from ESPN Rumors:
“If the market were for Holliday were to remain relatively stalled, could the deep-pocketed Yankees get in the mix, just as they did with Mark Teixeira last season? Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune wonders if the Yankees are flying under the radar regarding Holliday and adds “a lot of rival executives are suspicious of the Yankees’ leaked plans to cut payroll.”"
I honestly do not see the Yankees signing Matt Holliday (not that I’d complain if they did), but I do love just how much Cashman & Co. is inside the heads of everyone else in baseball. No one is ever willing to count them out of any bidding race until the player inks a deal. No agent ever wants one of their premiere players to sign until a thorough sit down with the Yankees’ FO is had. Its awesome. Everyone in baseball – GMs, agents, players – knows exactly who their Daddy is. Its good to be The King.
My Bears fan friend just texted me this:
“Jay Cutler has now thrown more interceptions in a single season than any Bears QB since 1949. And he still has three more games left this season.”
A lot is his fault but the guy has no help whatsoever on offense. Bad receivers and a bad O-line.
I believe KC Joyner of thefootballscientist.com developed some stat roughly called “Bad QB Decisions” and Cutler has lead the league in bad decision percentage, by a wide margin, every single year he’s been in the league.
Yea, thats true. He gets frustrating at times. The main reason I wanted to keep him was because I though McD could help him fix those bad decision.
It’s not too often that a QB who makes bad decisions turns it around though. Dude has thrown thousands of passes in the NFL and still doesn’t get it.
Cutler was never good. Eerybody thought he would make the Bears’ shitty rceivers get better, but it was always the other way around. Cutler had a bomb for an arm but was a terribly innaccurate QB and a bad decision maker. His good receivers would just catch enough of his passes to inflate his numbers. Now he has shitty receivers and all the good stats he had are down and the picks are still up.
Gotta give props to McD and Nolan. They always have good adjustments. The D was sucking to begin with but now the Broncos have totally killed the Colts offense.
The stats tell all: Colts yards by quarter: 1st – 142, 2nd – 66, 3rd – 22….
BABY LOCKDOWN!!!!!
Darelle Revis.
Hello, my name is Darrelle Revis. I intercept footballs.
Silly Buccaneers. There are no receptions on Revis Island.
Maybe I read the open thread on wrong weeks, but it seems like he always getting picks reading the comments.
darrelle revis = good at football
Wow, Saints. Faking a FG right there?
If Chris Redman and Jason Snelling end the Saints undefeated season, I’m gonna laugh.
They won’t.
They didn’t.
Indeed.
You know what, though? I’m gonna laugh anyway.
They made closer then necessary against the Skins and Falcons.
WTF was that play call? If you call a pass on 4th and 2 with your backup QB, maybe that’s not a bad play call, but you better make damn sure the guys you’re throwing too are past the first down marker.
TD MARSHALL!!! Ties the NFL record with 20 catches. He dropped a couple too so hopefully he breaks the record.
Cardiac Colts strike again.
Collie, you beautiful bastard, it’s about time you did something right.
Damnit. Manning was 2 of his last 15 on throws until that completion. Cmon Broncos, one more TD and they get the lead. Gotta keep stopping them.
Cmon Broncos D. No time to start sucking again.
Josh Freeman: You had no idea what you were doing there, did you?
FUCK! Broncos stopped the RB in the backfield but missed the tackle. They did that 3 times this drive.
Roughest performance of the season so far from Peyton and he still gets it done.
Ugh, TD Colts. That should do it.
Tough loss for the Broncos. They played pretty well after starting off poorly. They just needed a bit more to overcome the Colts. Moreno had a tough game and couldn’t get anything going. They didn’t convert about 4 3rd and 1′s and got a lot of crippling penalties (most on 3rd down). The offense missed a lot of opportunities. So close but you have to play mistake-free to beat the Colts.
They also had some bad playcalling at times. They just didn’t convert the short-yardage 3rd downs while the Colts did for the most part.
Looks like B-Marsh wont break the receptions record. Orton sacked but B-Marsh was open.
And B-Marsh has broken the NFL receptions record with 21 in the game
Late on this but why do teams bother throwing near Revis?
A poor ratio of ignorance to testicles.
They’ll stop after a while. It’ll be like Champ Bailey in his prime.
The Raiders have returned to their regularly scheduled futility.
Sammy Morris: 6 car, 35 yards, 0 receptions, 0 TD.
Looks like the first half of my “Start Devin Thomas and bench Sammy Morris” advice to Pablo Zevallos was sound…
Don’t forget the fumble.
Gracias.
… aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, Fred Davis just scored, so it looks like my decision to start him over Jermichael Finley also worked out.
Thanks, Raiders!
Let’s go Cowboys. Beat the Chargers
+9
Fuck the Cowboys!!!!!
LT!
My man.
Jets day recap:
beat TB: good
MIA beats JAX: good (still tied with MIA, but now also tied with JAX)
NE beats CAR: doesn’t help (but expecting otherwise was a pipedream)
BAL beats DET: see above
IND beats DEN: helps (only one game back of Broncos now)
MIN beats CIN: helps (still two back of Bengals, but they may be sliding)
PIT, HOU, TEN: all fairly irrelevant since we’ve got a game on them already and need to win out anyway, but a Titans loss would be nice too.
I’m now rooting for the Cowboys now (every loss of an AFC team in front of us is a good thing). The interesting game will be the Thursday nighter next week: Colts at Jaguars.
I’d love the Jags to lose another game so we can move fully in front of them with a win over the Falcons next week, but I wonder if the Jags beating the Colts and ending their quest for perfection would nudge them towards resting their guys and giving us a layup victory in Week 16… in that case, we could be 9-6 going into a final game against the Bengals at the Meadowlands. And they’ve looked soft recently.
In any event, by the end of Week 14, Jets will be 7-6, effectively two games back of the division but more importantly, in a 4 way tie for the final wildcard spot.
Still in play.
Damn you and your logic, TSJC. God damn you.
I might actually have to root for the Cowboys. Fucking motherfucker. You’re right. Grr that really bothers me but my loyalty to the Jets > my hatred for the Cowboys.
http://lifestyle.msn.com/relat.....;GT1=32023
I never knew JMK and Kerry Rhodes had so much in common.
… nah, we’re not really listening. Seriously, I have no idea what the fuck you were just babbling about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pB-4avmAR0 (NSFW)
For the last time, you guys have the wrong idea about me. I don’t actively seek fat girls. I just don’t turn them down (or more accurately, virtually anything human with a pulse and a vagina). I think that’s a notable difference. I like anorexics just as much as the next guy (but not bulimics; I hate wasting money).
“I like anorexics just as much as the next guy (but not bulimics; I hate wasting money).”
I lol’d
Epic red zone fail for the Cowboys.
And then the interception and Nick Folk misses the FG.
Could be a great day for the G-men if they beat Philly. As much as I want NO to lose, Atlanta losing helps the Giants much more.
Oh man, poor Damarcus Ware.
I really help that guy is ok, that was a vicious hit. I hate his team but he is an awesome football player. No one deserves to get fucked up like that.
All right, he gave a thumbs up!
/sigh of relief
Hopefully he’s 100% ok.
Conversation w/my cousin:
Cousin: O man, Ware’s really hurt. That’s huge! That’ll really hurt Dallas later on.
RRR: Forget that. He’s really hurt. I really hope he’s not paralyzed. That’s happened before, man. I really hope he’s all right.
Cousin: O, that too.
Yeah, there comes a point where your humanity needs beats out your fandom. The standings in a game that I have zero vested interest in (besides emotionally) are not above the well being of a human being.
anyone know (or care) why Gradkowski out of Raider game?