Dec
08

Updated: Gammons out at ESPN for MLB; Curry takes Times buyout

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Just a few media hits for the afternoon: Via a release at their media center, ESPN announced a few minutes ago that Peter Gammons will be departing the network after the Winter Meetings are over. Gammons has not yet announced his next move, but Norby Williamson, ESPN executive vice president for production, says Peter wants “new challenges and a less demanding schedule.” In local media news, Jack Curry has taken a buyout offer from The New York Times and will be leaving the Grey Lady shortly. The Sports Section of The Times will seem a little less complete without him.

Update 5:58 p.m.: The Associated Press is now reporting that Gammons will be joining the MLB Network with an official announcement coming perhaps as early as tomorrow. This move seemed nearly inevitable when Gammons announced his decision to leave ESPN. Say what you will about Gammons’ biases, but this is a huge move for the one-year-old MLB Network. They get a bona fide giant in the field and steal one of ESPN’s most senior reporters. I wonder how much it’s going to cost them.

Categories : Asides, NYC Sports Media
  • A.D.

    Who will hype the Sox prospects????

    • Joey

      The rest of ESPN?

      • Yankee1010

        Yeah, I think NESPN will have it covered.

        Manny Delcarmen will still close for a NL team.

        • Thomas

          Maybe we’ve all been looking at this the wrong way. It isn’t a bias towards the Sox at all. They aren’t saying Delcarmen is good, just that the NL sucks.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Or:

            Both.

      • Salty Buggah

        Maybe the tide has turned and now they will go back to Yankees bias.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    Good night, sweet prince.

  • Charlie

    Re: Gammons

    I just jizzed in my pants

  • Whizzo the Wize

    Sorry to sad Jack go.

    The opposite of sorry to see Gammons leave.

    • Mike Pop

      Oh my Mo. Whizzo!

      • Whizzo the Wize

        Yeah.

        Back from a long walk-about.

        With typos, apparently.

        Anything happen to the Yanks after May? I’m really worried about them playing well with Wang pitching so poorly.

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          Melky killed a guy with a trident.

          • Whizzo the Wize

            I predicted that.

            Good to see Whizzo still has it.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Back from a long walk-about.

          Did you see Locke?

          • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

            I love that show.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              WELL SHOOT THEN GET READY CAUSE IT’S ABOUT TO COME BACK BABY ZOMG

              • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                Feb. 2. That’s still a good amount of time off.

                • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  If we don’t talk about it the time will pass faster.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I’m thinking of joining Netflix and watching all 103 episodes again, from the beginning, in preparation.

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  There is a decent-to-good chance that I’m definitely already doing that for Seasons 4 and 5.

                • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  TSJC – We did that before Season 4… Watched an episode before bed every night or so for a few weeks, etc. It was awesome.

                  Yeah, I’m a geek. Whatever.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Just signed up.

                  START THE INSANITY, BABY!!!!!

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  lostrumours.com

                  Awesome spot.

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  sorry.
                  lostrumours.blogspot.com

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  It’s like RAB, for Losties.

                • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Yeah, that site and a few others, like docarzt.com, are pretty good. I’m actually not looking at that stuff anymore, I want everything this last season to be a surprise to me. I’ll still read Doc Jensen, but that’s it I think.

                • andrew

                  I love the show and still watch it religiously, but I must say I enjoyed the earlier seasons much more than the last two.

                • Michael Kay

                  also if you have a netflix streaming blu-ray or 360, PS3 you can save all seasons of LOST in HD quality, its like having the DVD’s without paying 200 bucks for them.

    • Nady Nation

      Nady Nation has missed Whizzo and welcomes Whizzo back with open arms.

      • Whizzo the Wize

        Thanks Double-N.

        Whizzo enjoys a hearty welcome.

  • Reggie C.

    I guess Gammons lost the over-my-ESPN-job-will-the-yanks-get-granderson bet.

  • Evil Empire

    Hey besides Gammons’ obvious crush on the BoSox, I like and respect that man. He knew his shit amidst the Red Sox twist he always put on it.

    I’m sure ESPN is sad to have him go. He’s getting rather long in the tooth so it makes sense but I hope he stays active, I’ll continue to follow him.

    • DP

      He was the godfather of bullshit rumors.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Meh, he’s gotten old, and now he’s just the underboss of bullshit rumors. Heyman is the new capo de tutti capo of bullshit rumors.

  • Manimal

    This day keeps getting better and better.

  • http://thetundrablog.blogspot.com/ Jake H

    While Gammons was biased a lot of time he was a HOF reporter and I hope that this isn’t health related. He did change how teams were covered.

    • Mike Pop

      +1

      As annoyed as I could get at him from time to time. He was still a heck of an analyst.

      Hope all is well for him.

    • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      He’s not a “HOF reporter.” He won the Spink Award, but he’s not in the HOF. For some context/perspective, Bill Madden is this year’s recipient of the Spink Award. Bill. Madden.

      /rant

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Thank you. Beat me to it.

    • pat

      He was honored by the HOF not inducted.

  • Bo

    The Gammons hate here is comical.

    How you cant give respect to one of the best baseball writers out there is a joke.

    • Charlie

      oh god..

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      That man is a Hall of Famer!

    • pat

      Because when you constantly ballwash Sox players and prospects you lose credibility.

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        Do you mean Casey Kelly is not the most polished pitcher in the history of baseball?

        • Steve H

          And Lars Anderson wasn’t the greatest hitting prospect ever (in 2008 of course)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I give respect to Gammons, he was one of the best baseball writers out there… in the 1980s.

  • Jack

    Gammons has not yet announced his next move

    I’m betting he’s working on advancing his music career.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ohgod_no Joe G.

      Keep this on the DL… he’s playing guitar in my death metal band: BloodBloodGutsBlood

      • Klemy

        Am I to believe Brett Gardner plays drums in your band?

        • SamVa

          brett only listens to speed metal.. get it? ha ha?

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    I will miss the drooling.

  • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

    What, no more Diamond Cutter jokes?!!! I’m outta here.

    • Salty Buggah

      No Diamond Cutter jokes or the insane Melky+IPK trade ideas…what a sad day

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I can promise you this:

        I will not let the Diamond Cutters jokes die. Diamond Cutters will live on.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          It’s a Christmas miracle!

          Mo bless you, Tommie.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I give because I love, you bodacious buxom bawdy bibliophile.

  • Thomas

    I’ve always found Gammons’ Red Sox bias bizarre. While he was always a Red Sox fan, I never thought he was really biased towards them in his reporting until they won it all in 2004 (it could just be I am remembering him wrongly though). It is like he is a frontrunner/bandwagon fan, except that everyone was well aware of the fact he was a Sox fan before their championships.

    I’ve just always found that odd.

    • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Just a hunch, but I think things might have changed re: Gammons’ reporting on MLB, and the Sox in particular, when Theo’s regime took over. Gammons is not just a Sox fan, he’s very in-tune and connected with the particular people who are running that organization now. I don’t think he was ever as close with Boston’s front office as he is now, with their current front office, and I think maybe that caused the difference you sensed. Before, he loved the Sox, but he didn’t necessarily think their FO was very smart nor did he have a personal connection with the FO. Now he not only thinks they’re the smartest guys in the room, but he also kind of has a personal stake in their success since he’s so close with Theo, et al.

      • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        I mean, come on. (safe – Epstein/DiNardo/Gammons)

        • Thomas

          I forgot all about that glorius picture. You’re theory seems logical.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          That’s….not a photoship, huh?

  • JackISBACK

    So We got Granderson, and ESPN got rid of Gammons? BEST DAY EVER!!!!

    Peter, we’d like to hear you’re departing words….

    “Thanks you, first of all, I’d like to thank the countless fans, the countless media people, and just people in general, who have wished me luck. Throughout the years, I covered many sports and I enjoyed every single one of them, with the RedSox comeback in ’04 always in my memory. I’d personally like to thank Theo, for inviting me over for tea this weekend. One last note, sources are telling me that the Red Sox are VERY close to acquiring Roy Halladay, and one AL East manager told me Granderson was vastly over-rated in the world of sabermetrics. With that note, I bid adieu to you all, GO REDSOX”

    Ok seriously, other than his Red Sox liking, he seemed like a good guy, so I wish him the best of luck.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Regardless of biases, both Curry and Gammons had careers that many of us pursuing sports journalism can only dream of.

    I wish them well.

  • ADam

    Thank God

  • Evil Empire

    Gammons has always given Derek Jeter more praise than any other writer I’ve ever read, and there’s a reason Rodriguez chose to confess his steroids use to him and not some other schmuck.

    Gammons is one of the most respect men in the industry, and he’s even taken it upon himself to appreciate advanced statistics. He also got a big credit boost in my book for predicting Greinke to win the Cy Young in spring training.

    Baseball is a better sport with Peter Gammons covering it, biased BoSox slant or not.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ohgod_no Joe G.

      Gammons is so old that he doesn’t do any actual legwork anymore, people just tell him stuff because he’s Gammons.

      So he doesn’t cover anything, stuff covers him… mainly his spit.

    • Bob Stone

      Well said. I totally agree.

    • The Three Amigos

      Arod chose him because with Gammons it was a guaranteed puff piece, he asked like 10 questions and none of them were particularly hard hitting. He didn’t probe deeper then why did you take steroids?

  • vin

    I was thrilled when I first read that Gammons was leaving ESPN.

    Then I realized that it doesn’t really matter much because ESPN is still way off my radar.

    I just hope Gammons doesn’t infest MLB Network.

  • Jordan

    I am beside myself. Diamond Cutters is dead. Melky+IPK trades are done. WHAT IS NEXT!?!

    I guess Eric Wordekemper can still net a solid package of IPK + The Justin Upton + a sack of in-and-out burgers.

  • http://pinstripepalace.blogspot.com/ Brien Jackson

    Well then, if Jon Kruk committs suicide on air I might consider watching ESPN again now.

    • Mike Pop

      Crossin’ the line a wee bit.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        What if it was an accidental suicide? Like, an overdose of Subway $5 footlong sandwiches or something? Would that be okay?

  • Bob Stone

    Fatcessa just predicted on his show that Gammons will announce next week that he is joining MLB network and MLB.com. Interesting off-the-top-of-the-head guess.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      I wouldn’t be surprised. A few folks on Twitter were speculating the same thing. Biases aside, that would be a huge get for the MLB Network.

    • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      My initial thought, not that it counts for much, was that maybe he’d take some sort of position in the Sox’ front office. I mean, the guy’s done pretty much everything he can do in the world of journalism… Maybe he wants to finally be a real part of the team for a little while before he retires for good.

      • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Talk about your short-lived theories.

    • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

      I love that Mike’s whole demeanor changes when a caller will give him info that he didn’t know about first.

  • charlespoet

    Forget the Gammons thing, you are all forgetting your long lost favorite son who will replace Gammons’ All Sox All the time – have the greatest players ever, greatest GM ever…. I introduce to you – Peter Abraham.

  • Rose

    Peter Gammons never played baseball (professionally)…never coached or managed anything in baseball. He just woke up one day and was like “I LOVE BASEBALL!!” And now he’s in the Hall of Fame.

    True Story…

    • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Peter Gammons is not in the Hall of Fame. Truer story.

      • Rose

        “Peter Gammons (born April 9, 1945)[1][2] is an American sportswriter, media personality, and National Baseball Hall of Fame honoree.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gammons

        So he was just “honored” there for something irrelevant and was never actually elected into it?

        No wonder I was confused…

        • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          He won the Spink Award, he was not inducted into the Hall of Fame.

        • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
          • Rose

            Oh well…got it mixed up. The way they always talk and write about it…one could assume he was in the Hall of Fame. My mistake.

            • http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Oh totally. It’s just that the way they talk about it is wrong and it’s kind of annoying. Plenty of other journalists have won the Spink Award, but you never hear them introduced as a “Hall of Famer” like Gammons. Ever hear someone say “now here with us is Hall of Famer Tracey Ringolsby?” Or “Hall of Famer Murray Chass?” It’s just been another way for people to slurp Gammons and act like he’s special, but it’s inaccurate.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      False story.

      Gammons is NOT in the Hall of Fame. That’s not a true statement, unless he buys a ticket and goes to visit and someone calls him on his cellphone and says “Peter, where are you right now, at this very minute?” and he says “Right now, at this very minute, I am IN the Hall of Fame.”

      • Rose
      • SamVa

        well played.

      • Evil Empire

        Man, I totally didn’t know that until today, no shit. ESPN shoves that down its audiences’ throats non-stop. HALL OF FAMER PETER GAMMONS.

  • Mike HC

    He was becoming a joke. Stayed far too long.

  • Josh

    Anyone else think the Scutaro article from last week was the straw that broke the camel’s back?

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    So…stuck at work all day, cell phone breaks, haven’t seen a TV. Finally get to a computer to find that we got Granderson AND Gammons left ESPN?

    The one day I have to do something at work other than pretend to work! The nerve of those people.

  • JMK aka The Overshare

    Red Sox on the verge of trading the shell of my journalistic corpse, Jed Lowrie and Jason Varitek for Jason Heyward and Brian McCann, but only if the Braves eat some of McCann’s salary.

    For Cubic Zirconium Cutters,

    I’m Peter Gammons

  • Reggie C.

    Ever since ESPN stole Jon Gruden from the far superior NFL Network , i’ve wanted ESPN to suffer a major defection. This is probably it.

  • nathan

    Great one of the reasons i preferred the MLB network was that through the regular season they had no RedSock cronie in there… now they import the biggest of them all

    This will ensure that PG will tell u how good Pedroia and Lowrie are and how the RS will win the next 5 WS in a row… and HOF chances of the 25 men in the Sox roster…

    the MLB network guys are way more overworked than the ESPN guys… i donno how you move toMLBN if you want lesser work… unless he is not a game reporter and just a weekly 1/2 show contributor as opposed to the MLB tonight type shows..

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Gammons, for the last few years, had been traveling with the Sunday Night Baseball crew. For MLBN, he can pretty much just stick with studio appearances.

      • nathan

        i think he shud hv just retired.. kind of like Griffey going back to Seattle… sometimes Karl Ravech would wait an eternity for Gammons to reform his thought in the middle of a discourse…

        he has a great name, sure wud hv made some serious dough.. i just think he should retire and enjoy the fruits of his red sox insider reports of the last 40 yrs…

        the fact that he didnt retire likely means ESPN forced his hand

    • crawdaddie

      Yeah, I’m not happy with this latest development.

  • Evil Empire

    I’m glad to hear this, I’ve started to watch more of the MLB Network and less of ESPN. Win.

  • JSquared

    2 down… 2 to go.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

    I honestly think that ESPN can give a rat’s ass about baseball. Ever since they started televising the NFL, MLB has been on the backburner for them.
    As long as there is Extra Innings, ESPN’s MLB telecasts are dead to me.

    • vin

      I couldn’t agree more. ESPN became utterly useless once they bought the rights to MNF. It’s far too football-obsessed. They don’t give nearly as much attention to the NHL as they used to (mostly because the network signed with Versus).

      Also, they employ way too many prognosticators and yellers. They don’t analyze anymore, they just make predictions. Garbage network, as far as I’m concerned… which is really sad.

      • 5th Starter

        If football didn’t kill baseball in the ratings, then I would agree with you. Before you blame ESPN for talking about football more than baseball, blame MLB.

      • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

        Garbage for baseball. Pretty decent for the rest though I don’t follow as religiously as baseball.

        Anyways I thought Gammons was one of the better ESPN people since he wasn’t batshit insane 100 percent of the time. I don’t mind him compared to people like Kruk or Skip Bayless. I wish him well in the MLB Network which is by far much better than any kind of baseball analyzing ESPN can do.

  • Sam

    How has no one posted this in this large of a Peter Gammons thread?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzAR2Z52rNM

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      That was awesome, Sam. There should be one for Kruk.

  • Catherine

    Peter Gammons can take his pro-Red Sox views to MLB but, in all fairness, Gammons is a good reporter. I am going to miss Jack Curry – a class act all the way.

  • M-Three

    If he is coming to the mlb network then they should get rid of Sean Casey, probably the only commentator in baseball more bias than gammons.

  • Joey

    Probably nobody will see this but holy shit, Gammons is only 64! I thought he was at least 80, and that was my conservative guess

  • Stryker

    mlb network is great. i’d like to see more original programming that they boast so much rather than replays of ‘classic’ games but i love what they’re doing after just a year of being around.

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