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	<title>Comments on: Updated: Did Pettitte reject Yanks&#8217; first offer?</title>
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		<title>By: king of fruitless hypotheticals</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-707060</link>
		<dc:creator>king of fruitless hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we want 10, he wants 15, give him 10 + 5 in incentives...clearly andy can see the value in that, and the organization has hedged some risk against an aging player...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we want 10, he wants 15, give him 10 + 5 in incentives&#8230;clearly andy can see the value in that, and the organization has hedged some risk against an aging player&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-707041</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numbers wise, Randy Wolf was better than Pettitte, but obviously u&#039;d rather have Andy because he&#039;d pitched in the AL East, not NL West. But still, he&#039;s closer to Randy Wolf than AJ Burnett. I say one year 12 Mil, take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numbers wise, Randy Wolf was better than Pettitte, but obviously u&#8217;d rather have Andy because he&#8217;d pitched in the AL East, not NL West. But still, he&#8217;s closer to Randy Wolf than AJ Burnett. I say one year 12 Mil, take it.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-707039</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zing!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike HC</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-707026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My original comment was what I would want and what I feel I deserve from the Yanks if I was Pettitte.

If I was the Yanks, I would clearly want to pay him less and know I could get him for less because he only wants to pitch for the Yanks.  If he was willing to go to the highest bidder and play the game Boras style, he would get more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original comment was what I would want and what I feel I deserve from the Yanks if I was Pettitte.</p>
<p>If I was the Yanks, I would clearly want to pay him less and know I could get him for less because he only wants to pitch for the Yanks.  If he was willing to go to the highest bidder and play the game Boras style, he would get more.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin Lynch</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-707001</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrin Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we gooooooo AGAIN!!!,w/Andy!!!,I believe the year after last the Yankees offered him 10 million,and he REJECTED IT!!!,then he winds up signing for ALOT less,and signs w/the Yankees for 1 yr!!!,at less than 10 million!!!???.What the hell is his problem????,he&#039;s not going to get a LONG TERM contract w/anybody!!!!,he says he&#039;s a TRUE YANKEE?????????????,then SHOW us you are a real yankees!!!man!!!,and stop complaining about the MONEY!!!,what would have Ron Guidry???,been worth in this day &amp; age????,alot more than Andy Pettite!!!,be great-ful Andy that you make that kind of MONEY!!!,take the 10 million and shut-up!!!.Didn&#039;t your parents teach you ANY respect about being a real person growing up??,IF that we me I&#039;d be great-full for 10million dollars,I&#039;ll NEVER make that in my ENTIRE life!!!.You cannnot live on 10 million dollars??????????????????????????????????,plus all of those OTHER years you played??for this team:the New York Yankees!!,you mean to tell me you have NO MONEY left in your bank account???,lets be really!!!ok Andy,take the 10 million and play one more year then RETIRE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we gooooooo AGAIN!!!,w/Andy!!!,I believe the year after last the Yankees offered him 10 million,and he REJECTED IT!!!,then he winds up signing for ALOT less,and signs w/the Yankees for 1 yr!!!,at less than 10 million!!!???.What the hell is his problem????,he&#8217;s not going to get a LONG TERM contract w/anybody!!!!,he says he&#8217;s a TRUE YANKEE?????????????,then SHOW us you are a real yankees!!!man!!!,and stop complaining about the MONEY!!!,what would have Ron Guidry???,been worth in this day &amp; age????,alot more than Andy Pettite!!!,be great-ful Andy that you make that kind of MONEY!!!,take the 10 million and shut-up!!!.Didn&#8217;t your parents teach you ANY respect about being a real person growing up??,IF that we me I&#8217;d be great-full for 10million dollars,I&#8217;ll NEVER make that in my ENTIRE life!!!.You cannnot live on 10 million dollars??????????????????????????????????,plus all of those OTHER years you played??for this team:the New York Yankees!!,you mean to tell me you have NO MONEY left in your bank account???,lets be really!!!ok Andy,take the 10 million and play one more year then RETIRE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: king of fruitless hypotheticals</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-706995</link>
		<dc:creator>king of fruitless hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my wife said yes the first time i asked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my wife said yes the first time i asked&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-706866</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ was offered 16 mil/year by another team.  Pettitte won&#039;t be.  No need to negotiate against themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ was offered 16 mil/year by another team.  Pettitte won&#8217;t be.  No need to negotiate against themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-706836</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve said before (a long time ago).  A player is only worth what somebody will pay for them.  It&#039;s all perceived value.  You&#039;re right, Fangraphs doesn&#039;t set the table for a player on the open market...but it&#039;s a players WAR converted to a dollar scale based on a possibility of what they could get in free agency...according to that WAR.

But just like anything else.  If somebody isn&#039;t willing to give you that much...than you&#039;re, quite simply, not worth that much.  Again, you&#039;re only worth what somebody is willing to pay for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said before (a long time ago).  A player is only worth what somebody will pay for them.  It&#8217;s all perceived value.  You&#8217;re right, Fangraphs doesn&#8217;t set the table for a player on the open market&#8230;but it&#8217;s a players WAR converted to a dollar scale based on a possibility of what they could get in free agency&#8230;according to that WAR.</p>
<p>But just like anything else.  If somebody isn&#8217;t willing to give you that much&#8230;than you&#8217;re, quite simply, not worth that much.  Again, you&#8217;re only worth what somebody is willing to pay for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike HC</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-706835</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, but the one year aspect makes that almost moot.  And Pettitte&#039;s projected production for next year is far more predictable than AJ&#039;s for the next five years (as of last off season) or for the next four years as of now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but the one year aspect makes that almost moot.  And Pettitte&#8217;s projected production for next year is far more predictable than AJ&#8217;s for the next five years (as of last off season) or for the next four years as of now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/pettitte-rejects-yanks-first-offer-20855/#comment-706833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;he made 10.5 mil last yr. Who in their right mind would think that he would take less this yr? &lt;/i&gt;

Presumably the $10m offer would be guaranteed money. Last year was only guaranteed something in the $5m range. The vastly higher guarantee changes things.

Of course, Pettitte turned down $10m guaranteed last year and ended up accepting the incentive based offer, so, who knows where his preferences lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>he made 10.5 mil last yr. Who in their right mind would think that he would take less this yr? </i></p>
<p>Presumably the $10m offer would be guaranteed money. Last year was only guaranteed something in the $5m range. The vastly higher guarantee changes things.</p>
<p>Of course, Pettitte turned down $10m guaranteed last year and ended up accepting the incentive based offer, so, who knows where his preferences lie.</p>
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