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	<title>Comments on: When the Yanks almost traded Jorge Posada</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Deegan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/when-the-yanks-almost-traded-jorge-posada-21187/#comment-716776</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Deegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other George (Weiss) sure did. A nice piece on THT about the &#039;56 Yankees has a great analysis of the thinking that went into dumping Lew Burdette, Vic Power, Jackie Jensen and quite a few more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other George (Weiss) sure did. A nice piece on THT about the &#8217;56 Yankees has a great analysis of the thinking that went into dumping Lew Burdette, Vic Power, Jackie Jensen and quite a few more.</p>
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		<title>By: SheldonCooperPHD</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/when-the-yanks-almost-traded-jorge-posada-21187/#comment-715875</link>
		<dc:creator>SheldonCooperPHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard the posada/mo offer never really existed either.  Imagine that, two potential HoF&#039;ers for Wells.

And Posada certainly is going to be an interesting and viable HoF case.  The debates over the issue even from a year or two ago were pretty divided at places like BBTF and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard the posada/mo offer never really existed either.  Imagine that, two potential HoF&#8217;ers for Wells.</p>
<p>And Posada certainly is going to be an interesting and viable HoF case.  The debates over the issue even from a year or two ago were pretty divided at places like BBTF and others.</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another story about Mo almost going to Seattle for Felix Fermin:

http://www.yanksblog.com/item/2009/2/15/cashman-recalls-possible-trade-of-mariano-rivera-for-felix-fermin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another story about Mo almost going to Seattle for Felix Fermin:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yanksblog.com/item/2009/2/15/cashman-recalls-possible-trade-of-mariano-rivera-for-felix-fermin" rel="nofollow">http://www.yanksblog.com/item/.....lix-fermin</a></p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/when-the-yanks-almost-traded-jorge-posada-21187/#comment-715710</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only deal offered was Hughes, IPK, Melky and one other prospect. Fortunately Cashman pulled it before whats-his-face changed his mind.

With all the Money with have for FAs, why trade any good youth at all? Granderson costs $8.5m/yr. So for another $8-$9.5m, we could have Holliday. The Formula is:

Holliday + AJax + IPK + Coke &gt;?&lt; Granderson + $9m/yr.
Which of thise do you prefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only deal offered was Hughes, IPK, Melky and one other prospect. Fortunately Cashman pulled it before whats-his-face changed his mind.</p>
<p>With all the Money with have for FAs, why trade any good youth at all? Granderson costs $8.5m/yr. So for another $8-$9.5m, we could have Holliday. The Formula is:</p>
<p>Holliday + AJax + IPK + Coke &gt;?&lt; Granderson + $9m/yr.<br />
Which of thise do you prefer?</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/when-the-yanks-almost-traded-jorge-posada-21187/#comment-715703</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;to offer a failed starter (who happened to become the greatest closer of all time) and a catching prospect who wasn’t that highly regarded?&quot;

&quot;this is the sort of story that makes me nervous about giving up ajax and ipk&quot;

This is the problem with the Yankees and their money. They never take the time to develop their youth long enough to know what they have.

Mantle had struggles early on. Would George and Co. have traded him away?

Mo, Po, Cano, Wang and God knows who else were all traded away but fortunately turned down by the buyers. George tried to dump Pettitte too, although not as a youngster. I&#039;ve read about Mo, Po and Cano before, but reading it again makes me sick to my stomach.

And are there still some of you who are ready to trade Joba and Montero for a 33 year old Halliday?

Mayne.... just maybe.... just because they are ours and we don&#039;t know yet, maybe it&#039;s reason enough to just keep them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;to offer a failed starter (who happened to become the greatest closer of all time) and a catching prospect who wasn’t that highly regarded?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;this is the sort of story that makes me nervous about giving up ajax and ipk&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the problem with the Yankees and their money. They never take the time to develop their youth long enough to know what they have.</p>
<p>Mantle had struggles early on. Would George and Co. have traded him away?</p>
<p>Mo, Po, Cano, Wang and God knows who else were all traded away but fortunately turned down by the buyers. George tried to dump Pettitte too, although not as a youngster. I&#8217;ve read about Mo, Po and Cano before, but reading it again makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
<p>And are there still some of you who are ready to trade Joba and Montero for a 33 year old Halliday?</p>
<p>Mayne&#8230;. just maybe&#8230;. just because they are ours and we don&#8217;t know yet, maybe it&#8217;s reason enough to just keep them.</p>
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		<title>By: Whizzo the Wize</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whizzo the Wize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whizzo loves the fighting spirit and open wallet of Mr. Steinbrenner.

Whizzo also acknowledges that Mr. Steinbrenner was an occasional idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whizzo loves the fighting spirit and open wallet of Mr. Steinbrenner.</p>
<p>Whizzo also acknowledges that Mr. Steinbrenner was an occasional idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought the story was that George offered Mariano to the TIGERS for Wells??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the story was that George offered Mariano to the TIGERS for Wells??</p>
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		<title>By: crawdaddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>crawdaddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, George was an awful GM which is why the Yankees are in a better spot now with Hal and his siblings in charge while Cashman heads up the baseball operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, George was an awful GM which is why the Yankees are in a better spot now with Hal and his siblings in charge while Cashman heads up the baseball operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely NO truth to that trade proposal.  George, Brian and Jim all denied it then and all three said it NEVER happened.  Funny, how people make stuff up.  Bowden was just dumping Wells $$$ for Marge according to Gillicks comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely NO truth to that trade proposal.  George, Brian and Jim all denied it then and all three said it NEVER happened.  Funny, how people make stuff up.  Bowden was just dumping Wells $$$ for Marge according to Gillicks comments.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the point I was really trying to get at is that you really never know. Wang was a great piece at time, but a couple injuries later and he&#039;s non-tendered. A stark refusal to give up prospects (and I&#039;ve read a lot of opinions realting that) is not always a sound strategy. What happens if Montero pulls an Eric Duncan, and Halladay goes on to win a couple Cy Youngs in the next few years? The flip side is of course the opposite, but I think close-mindedness about offering up prospects is really ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the point I was really trying to get at is that you really never know. Wang was a great piece at time, but a couple injuries later and he&#8217;s non-tendered. A stark refusal to give up prospects (and I&#8217;ve read a lot of opinions realting that) is not always a sound strategy. What happens if Montero pulls an Eric Duncan, and Halladay goes on to win a couple Cy Youngs in the next few years? The flip side is of course the opposite, but I think close-mindedness about offering up prospects is really ignorant.</p>
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