Comments on: Yanks still exploring the Halladay possibility http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: toad http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711862 toad Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:38:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711862 I bet not. Look at it from the Jays' point of view. They have him for a year, but they are not going to be contenders in 2010. After that he walks, and they get draft picks. So if they can do better than the draft picks by trading now they have to consider it. What about the buyers? No one is going to give up the equivalent of Joba/Hughes/Montero plus for one year of Halladay. So they are looking at an expensive extension on top of giving up players. That minimizes the willingness to give up players. Or, as many others have said more simply, giving up players and having to give a big contract is a bad idea. If a trade deal comes up Halladay is effectively a free agent in terms of his bargaining power. That matters. I bet not.

Look at it from the Jays’ point of view. They have him for a year, but they are not going to be contenders in 2010. After that he walks, and they get draft picks. So if they can do better than the draft picks by trading now they have to consider it.

What about the buyers? No one is going to give up the equivalent of Joba/Hughes/Montero plus for one year of Halladay. So they are looking at an expensive extension on top of giving up players. That minimizes the willingness to give up players.

Or, as many others have said more simply, giving up players and having to give a big contract is a bad idea. If a trade deal comes up Halladay is effectively a free agent in terms of his bargaining power. That matters.

]]> By: Pittsburgh Pinstripes http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711720 Pittsburgh Pinstripes Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:51:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711720 Doumit Jays Yankees The Jays need a catcher. The Yankees lust after Halliday. The Yankees don’t want to part with Montero, a catcher, their top prospect. The Yankees are actually deep in catching prospects. The Bucs know the Yankees farm well. Maybe Doumit goes to Toronto, Halliday to NYY, Joba to Toronto and the rest of the NYY farm (including Romaine) spread out between Pgh and Toronto. Doumit Jays Yankees

The Jays need a catcher. The Yankees lust after Halliday. The Yankees don’t want to part with Montero, a catcher, their top prospect. The Yankees are actually deep in catching prospects. The Bucs know the Yankees farm well. Maybe Doumit goes to Toronto, Halliday to NYY, Joba to Toronto and the rest of the NYY farm (including Romaine) spread out between Pgh and Toronto.

]]> By: Grover http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711700 Grover Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:41:48 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711700 I read Joe's post as the Yankees should be able to get Halladay eventually for Montero and not Hughes or Joba but a couple of lesser prospects that are close to or are ready to contribute. I would do that in a heartbeat. I was wondering how much is left under the $200M mark now that Pettite is signed? How about some combination of Gardner, Brackman, Mitre, Igawa, and Gaudin to offset some of the money owed Halladay and allow a Damon, a Hairston type and/or a bullpen arm? I heard Sweeney Murti say he thought more of Romine than Montero today. I read Joe’s post as the Yankees should be able to get Halladay eventually for Montero and not Hughes or Joba but a couple of lesser prospects that are close to or are ready to contribute. I would do that in a heartbeat. I was wondering how much is left under the $200M mark now that Pettite is signed? How about some combination of Gardner, Brackman, Mitre, Igawa, and Gaudin to offset some of the money owed Halladay and allow a Damon, a Hairston type and/or a bullpen arm?

I heard Sweeney Murti say he thought more of Romine than Montero today.

]]> By: Greg http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711654 Greg Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:17:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711654 Speaking sense there. I'm sure det asked for Hughes n montero too Speaking sense there. I’m sure det asked for Hughes n montero too

]]> By: Greg http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711648 Greg Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:15:46 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711648 Halladay would make this rotation the best in baseball. Bye montero. He's a 1b anyway Halladay would make this rotation the best in baseball. Bye montero. He’s a 1b anyway

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711331 pete Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:07:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711331 see: Joba Chamberlain, June-July, 2008. consistently 95-96 on the FB, topping out at 98-99. When joba is on his game he is absolutely dominant. He was rarely on his game this year, but this year was a year of adjustment. If by the end of 2010, he hasn't started to hit that potential then we'll talk (and not if he tires as he approaches 180 innings, b/c it wouldn't make sense for him not to). But as of right now, Joba is every bit as good a prospect as he was last year see: Joba Chamberlain, June-July, 2008.
consistently 95-96 on the FB, topping out at 98-99. When joba is on his game he is absolutely dominant. He was rarely on his game this year, but this year was a year of adjustment. If by the end of 2010, he hasn’t started to hit that potential then we’ll talk (and not if he tires as he approaches 180 innings, b/c it wouldn’t make sense for him not to). But as of right now, Joba is every bit as good a prospect as he was last year

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711328 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:06:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711328 <b>When all is said & done, we might be able to get Halladay on the cheap by doing the following:</b> Really? That's awesome, tell me more, I want to hear how we can get Halladay on the cheap. <b>Take Halladay & Wells---</b> OH SHIT I TAKE IT BACK I DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HOW TO GET HALLADAY ON THE CHEAP When all is said & done, we might be able to get Halladay on the cheap by doing the following:

Really? That’s awesome, tell me more, I want to hear how we can get Halladay on the cheap.

Take Halladay & Wells—

OH SHIT I TAKE IT BACK I DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HOW TO GET HALLADAY ON THE CHEAP

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711326 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:04:21 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711326 Me too... in 2011. Me too… in 2011.

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711323 pete Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:03:20 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711323 i think you mean lackey...the mets don't have anyone behind Martinez, and even he's pretty far away from being an AL-East impact hitter i think you mean lackey…the mets don’t have anyone behind Martinez, and even he’s pretty far away from being an AL-East impact hitter

]]> By: pete http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/yanks-still-exploring-the-halladay-possibility-21031/#comment-711321 pete Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:02:17 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=21031#comment-711321 to be honest, he is the same prospect playing 1B/DH. In fact, I'd bet that a lot of teams would want him off catcher to preserve his legs long-term. If albert pujols weren't a catcher, would his value go down that much? to be honest, he is the same prospect playing 1B/DH. In fact, I’d bet that a lot of teams would want him off catcher to preserve his legs long-term. If albert pujols weren’t a catcher, would his value go down that much?

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