Yanks will meet with Ben Sheets’ agent
ByVia Joel Sherman, the Yankees (among others) will meet with Casey Close, agent for free agent pitcher Ben Sheets. I’m assuming the meeting will take place in Indy at some point. Close also represents Derek Jeter, so surely he’s familiar with Brian Cashman & Co.
Sheets, meanwhile, represents a tremendous buy low candidate. He’s coming off non-ligament elbow surgery, and has had over 14 months to recover from his various non-arm maladies. Assuming he signs for a short deal (one year plus an option would be ideal) at reasonable dollars, then Sheets provides (dare I say) ridiculous upside without much risk. For what it’s worth, Keith Law rated Sheets the 17th best free agent on the market, saying there’s “not much downside with the upside of a No. 2 starter who might give you 160-180 innings.”
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Ok I will be happy with Sheets or Harden as opposed to Halladay if it can be done. There I said it and I feel ok about it.
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There’s a space! You are not the real mryankee!
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give him wang’s 5 mil base and performance incentives?
Dooooo it!
Step 1: Sign Sheets
Step 2: Sign Pettitte
Step 3: Sign Mike Cameron
Step 4: Sign Damon.
Step 5: Piss in Theo Epstein’s water cooler
Step 6: ????
Step 7: Profit
Step 8: Lather, Rinse and Repeat
+1 on step 8
if we get sheets, should/do we need to sign petitte?
Counting on Sheets to eat serious innings would be a huge risk. Sign Pettitte fo sho.
maybe, what about sheets and douche but no petitte? chances are one of them could eat the innings
Most worn out phrase of the past 2 years:
You.Can.Never.Have.Too.Much.Pitching.
Sheets = Injury risk
Pettitte = Old, possible injury risk
AJ Burnett = Possible injury risk
Joba = Young
Hughes = Young
Sheets just gives us insurance. If he is healthy and so is everyone else and we have no space for him, he can be traded.
This.
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I would if the budget wasn’t a huge concern which I hope it isn’t.
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Agree except not sure you are cutting budget. Sign Andy, Sheets, and Cameron, use Swisher or Miranda as DH. Cuts payroll can have an OF of Cameron, Granderson, and Melky which would be one of the best defensive OF’s out there. Rotation of CC, Aj, Sheets, Andy, Hughes/Joba.
After Steps 1-3, I’d skip 4. Unless we’re talking a one year deal.
…if we get sheets, i still want pettitte for all the reason mentioned, plus i want the dude to be more competitive for the hall of pretty damn good…and another 14 wins and a ring will help.
um, tho…for step 4 up there? if we have cameron and granderson…why not add somebody that has been hitting lefties well, and will also reduce payroll? godzilla will be cheaper than damon.
if dont get cameron, i could see it, but even then–we’ll have The Landscaper, The Milkman, Granderson and Swish…(and Ajax in the wings…boohoo hoo hoo…)
nah…if we get cameron its a no on damon.
Hiring Kevin Towers should be on that list too.
We’re gonna have to continue the building of the farm. Slade Heathcott is the best outfielder prospect in the system as of tonight and for the foreseeable future.
I honestly prefer signing a guy who could pitch almost as well as Halladay if everything goes right as opposed to giving up Jesus himself for Halladay.
That was not an easy post for me, but its hard not to like the upside of sheets or Harden. The question is which way do you go? Sheets or Harden?
Sheets, easy
I say Sheets myself, though he has never pitched in the AL.
Sheets, the guys a horse when healthy, was leading NL in complete games before CC started dominating in 08.
sheets is over his injury and it seems harden is pitching through a shoulder thing.
Pass on Harden
Unfortunately (totally my opinion) I think for both the contract and playing time Sheets will want: Harden
But under equal circumstances definitely Sheets.
Sheets. Harden probably wants too much and a multi year commitment.
Sheets just needs one year so he can cash in for his last long contract after 2010.
please sign him he is back to 08 form our staff is unreal
With IPK gone I say go for it Cash.
That’s a good point I hadn’t thought “Post IPK” yet.
In this vein, I think we go after Aroldis a better harder.
bit harder*
Oh yeah definitely. Chapman to lessen the blow. Sign me up.
Let’s say Sheets is looking for a 1 year deal to try to reestablish himself. Could he be a guy they sign knowing that in a year if he performs he could get the Yanks a draft pick?
Does one year het it done? I have to think most teams will want Sheets.
One year sure. I think it’s more dependent on the money. I don’t see teams thinking of a multi-year contract for him.
Please Mo, let us get Sheets at a good price
Ok I am convinced lets get Sheets. I just hope he would rather pitch for the Yankees than the Rangers or Astros.
Do you still want Halladay though at the Jays’ asking price?
Tell me what it is and I will let you know. I read heyman’s recent article he has the Yankees as the number one team to get Halladay. Followed by the Sox.
Hmm could’ve sword it was the opposite because a lot of fans whined about that one on the YES Network forums…
Anyways a combination of the Big
FourThree since AJax is gone…So let’s say it’s Jesus, Hughes and I don’t know, let’s say Nova.
Do you say yes?
No too much I was thinking Joba-Romine-KMAC-Melancon. I might do it for that. I dont think you can give up Montero. I dont think you would have to, remeber the Phillies deal with Indians and the Mets with Twins. However if that were the only deal they would take I would say no. Now you play Theo do you give up Bard-Bucholz-Kelly and Hagadone?
Hmm I might if I was Theo but John Henry love his prospects so I doubt they’ll do that.
But for your proposal that would only work if no one gave a good offer and it was getting close to Halladay’s deadline. I don’t think Jays accept that.
Well I doubt the Sox would do it for what I suggested. I think Theo would only do that for King Felix, as I think Cashman might only move his best prospects for the same. Hard not to be enticed though, what Halladay brings is very unique.
No. Why? We lock up a ton of money for several years (i know i know he’s most likely to pitch 2200 innings over the next eleventy years)…if the Yanks have a budget thats not HIGHER than last year, I dont see it getting done (trading one of the New Big Three (or more) for one year of Doc is insance)…much less LOWERING payroll.
plus…we dont need him…add a sixth starter–either an upside guy like sheets, an innings eater or maybe just take a chance on our next crop of youngins.*
*assuming andy signs. if he doesnt, adding another starter becomes a little more important
Oh I’m not advocating it. Just wondering if mr yankee does since he’s pro-Halladay.
I would do the Halladay deal for what I suggested. I would not do it for Monetro, when I hear words like “once in a lifetime bat” like I have with Montero I think he is the dealbreaker.
I think they are going to get him for about what you said “Joba-Romine-KMAC-Melancon” its going to be a last minute deal.
And we are all going to be here saying how the hell did Cashman pulled that shit off.
No Hughes
No Jesus.
No.
Why pay that and give Halladay a FA-level contract as well? No reason and no one will do that. Either Halladay will stay with the Jays or be traded for a much worse package than you describe.
To get a deal done either Halladay has to take hit on money or the Jays have to take one on players. And Halladay isn’t likely to yield. The Jays are the ones under time pressure, so they might well back off.
i’d sign sheets/petitte/both and then cameron. that’s it. there’s no need for damon/matsui after that. cameron gives you a righty bat and good OF defense prob cheaper than damon. From left to right, Cameron/Granderson/Swisher, Melky 4th OF, miranda/rotation as DH.
Granderson/Cameron/Melky Swish would dh under that scenario.
why? swish is a decent RFer or u could move him to left and put cameron in right. you’re losing offense having melky in right every day instead of Cam/Grandy/Swish with miranda as dh. and the defense doesn’t quite make up for that
oh yea, and sign aroldis
Anyone else willing to admit they were in the Sheets over AJ bandwagon last year?
I was in the “OMFG STARTING PITCHING NAO” bandwagon so I didn’t care. As long as they were good.
I was even though he wasnt going to be ready until June or whenever. In hindsight, they made the right move because of how atrocious Wang was but I would love to have Sheets now.
was a big AJ fan since he was in Toronto. I still think he will get better.
I loved the AJ move the most out of the three, just cause he dominated the yanks in 2008
No need to bring up obsolete arguments. I will say, though, as someone who was in the AJ over Sheets camp last year, that I’m all for signing Pettitte and Sheets right now.
That mean you’re good with sending Hughes back to the pen to open the year? Or Scranton?
I was the friggin captain of it.
The severity of Sheets’s injury wasn’t fully known until after AJ signed.
Anyone who watched Burnett pitch in 2008 had no doubts.
Pull the trigger on Sheets Cash then take a nice long vacation.
Sheets or Harden, good moves. Sign one of them, resign Pettitte, let Joba/Hughes/SheetsorHarden battle it out for 4 and 5 during spring training. If we sign Sheets, we’ll probably end up with something like Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Sheets, and Hughes as our opening day rotation… I like that.
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Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Sheets, and
HughesJoba.no, i’m not going to make any played out ‘starting pitcher’ jokes about joba
its just that with hughes…and teh eigth!
Yeah, Hughes was great in the 8th last year, but Cashman says he and Joba are both starters in the spring. I like Hughes as a starter more than Joba. But yeah, that rotation works, too … either way, with Hughes/ Joba
Whatever it is… I want Wang on the team. I know most will find this uninteresting but I remember when we got Randy Johnson, I was not familiar with Wang. I read an article that read something to the tune of how Wang was penalized for something and had to run laps and had to pick another partner and he picked the big unit. I was like, whoa this Wang character has some balls, he’s a nobody and he picks Johnson to run laps with him? Ever since that day I have been following Wang so I’d hate to see him cut from the team.
So you want Wang to take up a spot because of that?
Really? So performance means nothing
I like Sheets to give the Yankees 6 starters, one of whom can start the season as the 8th inning guy. (Joba or Hughes?) The chances are really good that you’ll need a 6th starter at some point, and they need an elite set-up man, too.
Maybe Harden can reinvent himself as a dominant (healthy) 8th inning guy and then take over the closer role from Mo…
ok, that’s not really going to happen… but it would be ideal. Really wonder how much both will command on the market.
If they are going to pass on Halladay which it looks like is highly probable they will take a flier on one of these high risk high reward starters.
Just depends on who they like best. Sheets, harden, ducherer, bedard
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