Dec
10

Yanks select Jamie Hoffmann in Rule 5 Draft

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Via Joel Sherman, the Yankees will take Dodgers’ outfielder Jamie Hoffmann first overall in the Rule 5 Draft. Hoffmann, 25, hit .291-.390-.466 with 23 doubles, 10 homers, and 15 steals between Double- and Triple-A last year. He also had an uneventful 24 plate appearance cameo with the Dodgers.

The righthanded batter was ranked the Dodgers 22nd best prospect by Baseball America prior to the 2009 season, and their handbook says he can capably play all three outfield spots. Against lefty pitchers last year, Hoffmann was a .308-.432-.542 hitter. I approve.

Update by Joe: Diamondbacks took Kroenke.

Update by Joe again: Mariners take Texeira.

Update by Joe again: Yanks pass with their own pick.

Update by Joe again: Everyone passed in round 2. That’s it, folks. Minor leaguers next.

AAA portion: Yanks pass in the first round. No team took a player from their affiliates.

AA portion: Yanks pass. Everyone passes in the second round and no Yanks are taken.

Categories : Minors

205 Comments»

  1. Stryker says:

    better than the reported “fact” that they were going to have the natinals select kroenke.

  2. scott says:

    do we expect him to actually stick with the club? if so wont they have to move melk or cabrerra, or def not resign damon?

    • Stryker says:

      well, last time i checked melk and ‘cabrerra’ are the same guy hahaha. just messing with you though – it’s early.

      and they can stash gardner away in AAA and keep whoever they select (baseball america is reporting they’ll take raynor now) on the 25 man. it’d be nice to take a huge upside arm and while there’s a way to do it, it’d make more sense to take a guy (an outfielder, hopefully) that’s fairly MLB ready or needs a bit more seasoning. that way while he’d be no austin jackson upside-wise, there’d at least be a guy that could fill in at the upper levels of the system.

  3. Moshe Mandel says:

    This tells me that either Melky will be playing everyday or there is a trade coming. No way they go with Melky, Gardner, and Hoffman all on the bench.

  4. Rose says:

    The righthanded batter was ranked the Dodgers 22nd best prospect by Baseball America prior to the 2009 season.

    22nd best? Isn’t that pretty bad? I mean I know for the Yankees it’s not that great…but I’d assume the Dodgers 22nd isn’t exactly the Rays 22nd best.

  5. Steve H says:

    If he can really play all 3 OF positions and hit lefties, sounds like a good 4/5 OF, especially with Granderson in tow.

  6. Mac says:

    Its insurance for not signing a DH that can play the field. Now we can all sleep a little better if they go after a primary DH such as DEEELLLGAAADOOOOOO.

    He will hit 40 HR’s in the Stadium behind Alex.

  7. YankeeGaGa says:

    Bye bye Leche?

  8. Doug says:

    Possible that we have a Miranda/Hoffman platoon at DH?

    Would be consistent, $-wise, with the speculation that we are still in on Holliday.

  9. MatyRuggz says:

    He sounds like a possible platoon partner with Granderson if things work out. Granted, he hasn’t proved anything against big league pitching, but with his little bit of power, little bit of speed, and little bit of defense, he should make for a solid utility outfielder.

    • Dan says:

      Bingo! He can “spell” Grandy against tough lefties. He seems like a very cheap caddy option to me. He will be good for about 200 at bats.

    • OldYanksFan says:

      FWIW, Hoffman’s scouting report lists his speed at 80 of 100. For reference, Curtis Granderson was scouted as 84 of 100. His MiLB career OBP is 70 pts higher then his BA, so he has some plate dicipline. He seems to be a ‘balanced’ ballplayer, but not much pop. Kind of an ‘Ellsbury Light’ guy.

  10. pollo says:

    Great pick.

    Diamondbacks took Kroenke.

  11. pollo says:

    Fucking Mariners dipping into our system again!

    Stay Away!

  12. Bo says:

    Looks like Gardner will be adding OF depth to the org in Scranton next yr since he has options.

  13. Mac says:

    The Yanks aren’t going to keep him on the team just to keep him. They would have probably DFA’d Bruney anyway.

    So if this kid can’t show any sign of life in spring training they will just put him on a flight back to LA.

    So I wouldn’t get ahead of ourselves here.

  14. The fact that there’s no chat liveblogging of this R5 draft saddens me.

  15. [...] Joel Sherman (H/T RAB), the Yankees will take 25 year old outfielder Jamie Hoffmann from the Los Angeles [...]

  16. John NY says:

    So Kroenke and Tex are the only ones taken. I can see both sticking but we have Dunn, De La Rosa and Duff with more pieces coming up. You have to be happy with this situation.

  17. themgmt says:

    Melky’s gone in my opinion. Hoffman is a solid choice but I think Raynor offered more speed and previously better SLG, down year must have been a red flag

  18. jsbrendog says:

    not KANEKOA TEXEIRA!!!!!!!!!!!

    • scott says:

      i think we all have to remember this is the guy we basically got for brian bruney. i wouldnt expect anybody we got for brian bruney to make the 25 man roster or even the 40 man roster

  19. Doug says:

    .235/.316/.309 in 68 ABs in AFL; .184/.245/.265 vs. righties

    between his minor league #s last year and this small sample in the AFL, seems to REALLY struggle vs. righties

  20. MattG says:

    Does Hoffman qualify as my call for a Murton equivalent?

    I think so, yes indeed.

    Alright, let’s have them ‘role’ one more year with Melky (CWIDT?), add Delgado or Cust (I think I like the idea of Cust more, but all those numbers are trending down), nab Chapman and call it an off-season.

    Can we get the memo out to Cashman today, guys?

  21. Rose says:

    Hey! Remember when I asked about acquiring Boof Bonser yesterday? The Red Sox just acquired him lol.

  22. JohnC says:

    Guess that pretty much wraps up the Winter Meetings then. Next signing could be Chapman, after they watch him throw next week in Houston.

  23. Chris says:

    The guy I think the Yanks should be considering is Vlad. I have no idea why his name hasn’t been mentioned at all for our DH spot. I love Matsui, but having Vlad behind Arod would be sick. Plus Vlad can still play RF if needs be. He wasn’t offered arbitration. So it doesn’t cost us anything. We basically had Vlad in 04, but we signed Shef instead. So we know he had atleast some interest in playing for the Yanks at one point. Thoughts?

    • Rose says:

      We basically had Vlad in 04, but we signed Shef instead.

      That was in 2004…over 5 years ago. Both Vlad Guerrero and Gary Sheffield are not even close to what they were then.

      Matsui >>>>>>>>> Vlad

    • The guy I think the Yanks should be considering is Vlad. I have no idea why his name hasn’t been mentioned at all for our DH spot. I love Matsui, but having Vlad behind Arod would be sick. Plus Vlad can still play RF if needs be. He wasn’t offered arbitration. So it doesn’t cost us anything. We basically had Vlad in 04, but we signed Shef instead. So we know he had atleast some interest in playing for the Yanks at one point. Thoughts?

      I was gonna break this down, line by line, but…

      Vlad, 2009: .295/.334/.460 (106+)
      Matsui, 2009: .274/.367/.509 (131+)

      Let’s just leave it at that.

      Vlad the Impaler is dead.

    • Raf says:

      because Vlad can barely run anymore and his power is almost all but gone. not the same player he was a couple of years ago at all. Delgado/Thome would be a better option.

  24. Chris says:

    So, Jamie Hoffman was on the Dodgers 25 man roster this season. That means that he was DFA’d at some point and exposed to waivers, right? If the Yankees wanted him, why didn’t they just grab him at that time?

    • Because we didn’t have room for him on OUR 25 man at that point.

    • BklynJT says:

      He didn’t necessarily have to be on the 25 man, he could of been a september call up. (Unless of course you were saying that he was on the 25 man, and not just assuming so because he had plate some plate appearances. I am too lazy to check either way and rather just let someone correct me.)

      • Chris says:

        He played in May/June. I can’t find when he was DFA’d, but the fact that he did not play in September suggests that he was probably DFA’d before then.

    • Tubby says:

      Why DFA’d? Wouldn’t he have just been optioned back to AAA?

    • andrew says:

      Wait, why does that mean he was DFA’ed and exposed to waivers? If he had options left, couldn’t they just have sent him back down to the minors?

      • sciorsci says:

        Because if he wasn’t DFA’d at some point, he’d still be on the 40-man roster (players with options can move freely on and off the 25-man roster, but the 40-man roster is static), and if he was still on the 40-man, he wouldn’t be eligible for the Rule 5 draft. By definition, since he was drafted in the Rule 5 draft, he must have been taken off the 40-man at some point, which means he was DFA’d/waived at some point last season.

  25. mike says:

    Hello Johnny Damon, Hello Jermaine Dye as the mostly full-time DH, goodbye Godzilla……

  26. Chris says:

    I realize Vlad is coming off an injury plagued year, but the fact is he’s a year younger than matsui. Matsui was coming off an injury year last year and look what he did. If Vlad was our primary DH I think he could put up monsterous #’s for us.

    • I realize Vlad is coming off an injury plagued year, but the fact is he’s a year younger than matsui.

      Farrah Fawcett is a year younger than Victoria Principal. Would you rather go on a date with Farrah Fawcett or Victoria Principal right now?

    • andrew says:

      Right… but if both of them are old, and both of them are aging/on the decline, then we can assume they will both get slightly worse next year or maintain their abilities, but probably not improve. Vlad will probably not beat his numbers from last year.

      • mike says:

        i think Dye @ 450 AB’s and not playing the outfield will offer the Yanks flexability at the DH, a RH bat in the lineup, and someone who could play the outfield if needed for a few games – not well, but better than Matsui

    • sciorsci says:

      Vlad’s a year younger as far as we know. That doesn’t mean he’s actually a year younger.

  27. A.D. says:

    and 15 steals between Double- and Triple-A last year

    Yeah, but he was caught 11 times…probably shouldn’t be stealing bases.

  28. Chris says:

    Compare matsui’s 08 and Vlad’s 09

    Vlad, 2009: Avg.295/ OBP .334/ HR’s 15/ AB 383
    Matsui, 2008: Avg .294/ OBP .367/ HR’s 9/ AB 337

    So is it really that impossible for Vlad to have a comeback season??????

    Plus is he’s considered “done” don’t u think we can get a better deal on him than on matsui?

  29. Tubby says:

    Fun Fact: Hoffmann was a 2003 draft pick of the NHL’s Carolina Hurricanes.

  30. A.D. says:

    Hoffmann has shown the classic struggle & adjustment at every level, so hopefully that continues in the bigs.

  31. Chris says:

    What are u talking about? The reason for Vlad’s bad 09 was because he had a bunch of different injuries that lead to his subpar 09. In the playoffs when he was finally back healthy he hit .378 average with three doubles, a homer and seven RBIs in nine games

  32. Doug says:

    Wasn’t sure where to put this but this is an active post; from Olney:

    “Heard this: The Yankees are in the process of negotiating with Johnny Damon’s camp.”

    “The Yankees intend to use market forces to pressure Damon to make a decision quickly.”

  33. HC says:

    Does Hoffman mash LHP? I hope so. And if Miranda mashes RHP maybe (but probably not)Cashman plans on going for pitching and rolling with this lineup:

    Against LHP: Hoffman LF, Melky CF, Montero DH
    Against RHP: Dejesus LF, Granderson CF, Miranda or Posada DH

    • HC says:

      Wait, I forgot something- we can sign Mark DeRosa to DH against LHP and be a super-sub the rest of the time. What would it take to land DeJesus? Would Gardner, Gaudin, and a prospect (Miranda, Romulo, Russo, or Nunez?)

  34. Something that just struck me:

    I’m going to be sad when IPK and Kroenke combine to no-hit the Padres this summer.

  35. Pettitte's Stare says:

    What is the chance that we move Hoffman in another trade? Do we really need a 5th OF on the roster?

  36. Pettitte's Stare says:

    What is the chance that we move Hoffman in another trade? Do we really need a 5th OF on the roster?

  37. JMK THE OVERSHARE's Milton Bradley Fat Park Factor says:

    So…were Archimedes, Pino or Rodriguez drafted?

  38. Mike says:

    WFAN says that the NATIONALS selected Hoffman then sent him to the Yanks as the PTBML in the Bruney deal.

    • sciorsci says:

      Right. That was the deal the whole time. Teams can’t formally trade draft picks in baseball, even in the Rule 5 draft. But they can agree to select a player on behalf of another team and then trade him as a PTBNL (in the Rule 5 draft; it wouldn’t work that way in the amateur selection draft).

  39. Dwnflfan says:

    I’m not seeing any reason to think Hoffman can make the Yankee roster. In roughly 250 PA’s he put up a .815 OPS in Albuquerque which inflates offense by about 15%

    On the road, (AAA & AA) last year Hoffman had these triple slash #’s
    .251 .347 .380 for an OPS of .727
    That sound like a valuable bench player to you?

    His AAA stats last year translate to a MLE of:
    .217 .282 .339 That make Garbrerra look like Tommy Heinrich.

    His AA #’s translate out to about a .700 OPS MLE but thats for 106 AB’s.

    The guy hammered lefties last year but that was over 120 AB’s and he’d never shown the ability to do that previously.

    Is this really the best they could do?

  40. sciorsci says:

    Thoughts on these potential lineups (with the roster as presently constructed):

    vsR:

    Jeter SS
    Granderson CF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Miranda DH
    Cabrera LF

    vsL

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Posada DH
    Cano 2B
    Granderson CF
    Hoffman LF
    Cervelli C

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