Jan
28

KLaw’s Top 100 Prospects List

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Keith Law posted his list of the game’s top 100 prospects today (it’s all behind the Insider wall, unfortunately). with two Yankee farmhands making the cut: Jesus Montero at #10, and Manny Banuelos at #96. “Montero’s ticket to the big leagues is his bat,” says KLaw, “and his hitting style is similar to that of another big guy who spent a lot of his career at DH: Frank Thomas.” Frank Thomas was good at hitting baseballs, in case you didn’t already know. As for Banuelos, he says his ceiling is “probably just a No. 3 or No. 4 starter, but given his youth and feel he’s got a good chance to get there.”

Arodys Vizcaino cracked the list at #43 (“… potential as a front-line starter”) while Austin Jackson came in at #70 (“… upside keeps dropping as he moves up the ladder”). Old buddy Jose Tabata also cracked the list as #57 (“… dwindling chance to be an impact player”). It’s a good sign that the Yanks’ system has produced five top 100 talents, even though only two of them remain with the organization.

KLaw also posted his top ten prospects by organization, and the Yanks’ list is made up of the usual suspects: Montero, Banuelos, Zach McAllister, Austin Romine, etc. Might as well mention that MLB.com’s top 50 list came out last night, and Montero ranked 19th overall. That’ll be the lowest you see him ranked all offseason.

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  • Bo

    No Andrew Brackman???? I’m shocked.

    • Slugger27

      im starting to think ur a sox fan that just comes on here cuz he has no life

      • Steve H

        I actually don’t think he’s a Sox fan, he just hates life and everything about it.

    • RichYF

      /yawn

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      I’m shocked.

      Four times, apparently.

    • Steve H

      Yet yesterday you completely misread (not that you can read) and claimed that Klaw said Brackman was the Yankees best pitching prospect. Again, you fail.

    • SM

      I love the low (or No) expectations for Brackman.

  • Rose

    I like how they’re comparing Montero to Hall of Fame caliber players like Frank Thomas and Miguel Cabrera all over the place…but then people rank him #10 or #19…

    Yeah he’s very young still…but still…

    /nitpicking

    • radnom

      I love when I see him ranked behind other 1B prospects, and the explanation is “Well he has the best bat, but we can’t rank him higher because he probably won’t stick at catcher”….ummmm….

  • pat

    F*cking Casey Kelly in the Top 20.

    Kelly’s defining attribute as a pitcher is his command, which was unusually good for a high school pitcher (in Sarasota, Fla.) and hasn’t regressed at all since he got into pro ball.

    Hahah so now Sox prospects get credit for not getting worse. Must be nice.

    • Slugger27

      bodes well for mcallister!

    • Accent Shallow

      It really seems the case for Kelly as a top prospect is all projection — that he “should” add velocity and improve his stuff as he moves up the ladder. It’s absolutely mind boggling. The descriptions that go with him seem to be for a guy at the back of the list — someone who could jump into the top 10-20 next year, if he makes the leap.

    • A.D.

      Even better since he only pitched in 2009, he can’t regress. Though I guess from A to A+ his BB/9 got better not worse.

    • Rose

      The Red Sox represent the struggling American’s who just recently got a taste of success in which people can relate to…while the Yankees represent a constant success which bears jealousy and envy in which people can’t stand.

      I say you hold those bastards under water though and represent!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    Michael Taylor looks like Vince Young. Not just face, but body as well.

    6’6″, 250? Yeesh.

    • RichYF

      How does he compare to Greg Oden body wise?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Doppelganger #2:

      Lonnie Chisenhall looks like David Wright.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Doppelganger #3:
        Jarrod Parker and Grady Sizemore.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Doppelganger #4:
          Tony Sanchez and Rafael Nadal.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    #35 and #36 seems REALLY, REALLY low for Pedro Alvarez and Christian Freidrich.

    • pete

      I think K-Law is really scared of that BABIP

  • Chris

    Montero is 20 years old now, had a .906 OPS in AA last season, and is ranked as the 19th best prospect.

    Westmoreland will be 20 in April, had a .885 OPS in short season A ball, and is ranked as the 27th best prospect.

    It’s seems to me that there should be a larger gap between those two.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Yes, but Westmoreland is the greatest defensive outfielder in the history of baseball. He’s Griffey, Clemente, and Gary Templeton all rolled into one, only with better speed and instincts.

      Jesus Montero, meanwhile, is so atrocious defensively that he’d be a liability at DH.

      It’s a fact.

      • Chris

        In all seriousness, I could understand if Westmoreland were a good defensive OF, but having played less than 10 games in the OF in low-A ball doesn’t bode well for his future in the field.

        • AndrewYF

          Well, he was injured, so he gets a buddy pass.

          I love how the Sox prospects are all projection, though. The fall from grace will be even more predictable and even more fun than Lars Anderson’s.

          • camilo Gerardo

            can’t wait! the prospect love-fest they do or do not get is pretty lame.

    • Thomas

      I am more confused by the fact Pedro Alvarez is at 8 and Montero is at 19, when from what I’ve heard Montero is younger, a better hitter, and neither will stick at their current position. Both are likely to move to first, where Montero will probably be a below average fielder and Alvarez will probably be average (ie neither will be a good fielder at the easiest fielding position).

      • pat

        This is different than the one that came out yesterday. Your point is still valid though.

      • pete

        law has montero at 10, alvarez at 30 something. Both are, IMO, a little low, but I’d take law’s opinion over MLB.com’s compilation of scouts and friggin execs’ opinions.

  • Steve H

    Law also said he could have easily put Z-Mac in Man-Ban’s spot.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    AJax down to 70… shame.

    • Reggie C.

      Klaw doesn’t think Ajax can sustain last season’s BABIP.

      • Slugger27

        none of us do

    • pat

      Detroit is going to make a huge mistake if they throw him in CF to start the year. I think another year in AAA would do him good.

    • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan – Cashman Has No Equal

      Good thing we have Curtis Granderson!

  • D-Coops

    Really Jose Iglesias at 45? Didn’t know he was that good?

    • Reggie C.

      WOW. Seriously??

      Let me guess. So there’s probably 5 RS prospects on that list: Kelly, Westmoreland, Iglesias, L. Anderson and Tazawa. Am i wrong?

      • pat

        AND ANTHONY RIZZO!!!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Here’s your Sox:

        #18-Kelly
        #32-Westmoreland
        #53-Anthony Rizzo (no, seriously)
        #56-Lars Anderson
        #86-Ryan Kalish (bullshit)
        #91-Iglesias
        #98-Tazawa (ha!)

        • CountryClub

          Unreal

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Rizzo, Kalish, and Tazawa have no business being in anyone’s top 100.

            • Reggie C.

              I’ll buy Tazawa being on the list, but then McAllister should also be present, dammit. If anything, McAllister has the better SP body and that should give him an advantage in considering FB movement.

            • pat

              Especially since this is what he had to say about Tazawa;

              Tazawa’s stuff slipped a little bit in quality, with an average fastball at 89-91 mph with a little tail but no downhill plane or sink. He showed promise with two secondary pitches — a curveball in the mid-70s with good depth and an above-average splitter around 80 mph with good bottom (although when I saw him he didn’t use this pitch as much as he should have). His arm action is long, but he repeats it well and gets good momentum headed towards the plate. He’ll have to develop above-average fastball command and mix in his splitter more often to be more than a fifth starter.

              HAHAHA, and this is one of the best prospects in baseball.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                I mean, nevermind the obvious Tazawa/McAllister comp.

                Tell me how Junichi Tazawa is a better prospect than Andy Oliver, Anthony Gose, Peter Bourjos, Wil Myers, Jurickson Profar, Tyson Gilles, Mike Minor, Donavan Tate, Phillipe Aumont, Brett Jackson, A.J. Pollock, etc. etc.

                Go ahead, I’ll wait.

                • Reggie C.

                  KLaw isn’t going to be challenged by anyone at espn, but I’d like some explanation how Tazawa got placement over all those guys listed; no Tate or Oliver???

                  Did Jared Mitchell make the list? Klaw must not be feeling last year’s crop of college players.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  (getting more upset)

                  I mean, Donovan Tate? Really? I had to go back and check the list again, because I was like, “There’s no way Donovan Tate isn’t on the list but Tazawa is.”

                  But it’s true. Donovan Tate not only isn’t in the top 100, he’s not even in the 10 who “just missed”. But Junichi Tazawa is the 98th best prospect in all of baseball.

                  Yeah… no.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Jared Mitchell was #95.

                • pat

                  Tommie, none of those guys you mentioned have significant work to do to even be a MLB 5th starter.

                  Adv. Tazawa

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Huh?

      Iglesias is at #91. Which seems pretty fair to me.

      Now, Anthony Rizzo at #53 (above Tyler Flowers, Josh Bell, Matt Dominguez, Julio Teheran, Ike Davis, Freddie Freeman, Mike Moustakas, Mike Leake, etc.), THAT’S batshit insane, but Iglesias at #91 is decent.

      (Don’t get me started on Junichi Tazawa at #98, though.)

      • Reggie C.

        Cool. So you got access to the list. I’m sure Lars Anderson is on that list, which is acceptable but he must be outside the top 50 considering last year’s dreadful performance.

        • JGS

          he’s at 56. If you click on the article, the whole list is displayed on the right side of the screen, you just can’t see what Law has to say about the guys unless you are an insider

      • Thomas

        He’s at 45 on the MLB.com list, not Law’s list.

      • JGS

        yeah, but isn’t this the guy who thinks the Sox farm is better than Tampa’s?

      • Chris

        Iglasias was at 45 on the MLB list, which is open to us poor schmucks that don’t feel like shelling out the cash for insider…

    • Peter

      he’s not.

  • Ivan

    Im sorry but Montero should be in the top 5. Which prospects in K Law list were better?

    • pat

      Heyward,Strasburg, Santana, Posey, Stanton, Jennings, Martin Perez, Ackely, and a Smoak-type bat.

    • pete

      Heyward (yes), Strasburg (yes), Santana (less offensive projection, but better numbers and better D), Posey (quality defensive catcher w/ Avg/OBP ability, reasonable) Stanton (more power, worse hitter), Desmond Jennings (yes), Martin Perez (really??), Dustin Ackley (best pure college hitter in years, according to some scouts, so ok), and Justin Smoak (good defender, switch hitter with excellent power and avg/obp ability). Really, it’s not an unreasonable list. Montero could be top 3 next year if he does it again in AAA, but two years of production in A, A+, and AA doesn’t guarantee that you’ll be a great bat. And with his defensive projections, he needs to be a guarantee with the bat. That’s all.

      Still, I would have ranked them like this:

      1. Strasburg
      2. Heyward
      3. Jennings
      4. Montero
      5. Smoak
      6. Santana
      7. Stanton
      8. Ackley
      9. Posey
      10. Perez

      I just think that the good catchers with solid bats will be less valuable in coming years, considering how much catching talent there is on the rise, so I don’t think allll that much of posey. All you here w/ montero is comps like Miguel Cabrera and Frank Thomas. By the way, I’m terrified of how good the Rays OF defense could be next year if they go with Crawford, Jennings, and Upton, left to right.

    • Ivan

      OOPS…my bad, list was posted.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Top 10:

      1-Jason Heyward
      2-Steven Strasburg
      3-Carlos Santana
      4-Buster Posey
      5-Mike Stanton
      6-Desmond Jennings
      7-Martin Perez
      8-Dustin Ackley
      9-Justin Smoak
      10-Jesus Montero

      I can’t say I’m really upset at that. That top ten is pretty pimp, and you could really stack them up in any order, to be frank.

      I might move Smoak down to #11 and add in either Brian Matusz or Neftali Feliz, but it’s not a biggie.

      • Reggie C.

        Montero > Smoak. Age advantage + AA performance. If you put Montero in the Texas League, Montero would’ve finished with a 1.00 OPS.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Yeah. Like I said, Smoak would be the one guy I’d remove from that top 10. There are better options.

  • mryankee

    The only pitchers who can be front line starters are gus who throw hard? Why in baseball when a pitcher domainates(mcallister) do people try to excuse the performance and trash the guy. I mean if his numbers are better than Kellys is Kelly the better prospect because he throws harder? The guy on Mlb Tv whatever his name is had Delmon Young the top prospect for like three years in a row.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      /boversimplified

      • mryankee

        I do not think so, the first thing I hear when any analyst is describing a pitcher is the “fastball touches 97″. or in Kyle Drabek’s case he is a”competitor” I am sorry if Mcallister and Kelly have the same stats and performance does that mean that kell’s numbers are better?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Seriously, bro, it’s just way more nuanced and complex than that.

          Stop listening to the first thing you hear when an analyst is describing a pitcher and start listening to the second, third, fourth, and fifth things the analyst says. Oh, and make sure you’re not listening to poor analysts.

        • pete

          except kell’s numbers ARE better. And he’s much younger. Kelly is a good prospect. Not quite as good as buccholz was a year ago, but not too far behind.

          • mryankee

            Now Bucholz and Hughes and Bailey were all 1-2-3 prospects in 2006. All three essentailly dominated the minors around the same time. If I am not mistaken I think Bailey had the most consistent velocity on his fastball at that time. Look back and Bailey hsd taken the longest to produce. My point is the “experts” all seem to love the big fastball-they never talk about command or secondary stuff. Ability to make adjustments as a pitcher.

            • pete

              bailey hasn’t taken the longest to produce. None of them have produced as expected yet. Neither hughes nor buccholz has secured a rotation spot yet. And I think a lot of people felt that hughes was better than bailey at the time because of his command. What it comes down to is that there is wayyyy more than MiLB numbers when it comes to projecting prospects, or else Michael Taylor and Chris Carter wouldn’t be 25th and 30th. There is also more to evaluating young pitchers than stuff or command.

            • A.D.

              they never talk about command or secondary stuff.

              They most certainly do talk about these things, but part of the reason they are talked about less is command & secondary stuff can be learned over time, a big fastball cannot.

              • mryankee

                Joba had a big fastball when he was in the minors.

          • Chris

            Kelly’s number’s really aren’t much (if any) better. His 19 year old season (2009) is basically identical to McAllister’s 20 year old season (2008). Is one year in age enough to make up that significant a difference is how they’re regarded? I don’t think it should.

    • Rick in Boston

      You also have to look at age/level comparisons and upside. Z-Mac’s who he is; Kelly theoretically is polished and should move very quickly. They’re two different types of pitchers.

      Delmon Young:

      Age 18 – low-A: OPS .926 in 578 PA’s
      Age 19 – split between AA and AAA: OPS .881 in 604 PA’s
      Age 20 – AAA: OPS .814 in 370 PA’s

      • mryankee

        I like the idea that performance is more important than potential. How much personal bias comes into these lists?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Potential should trump performance, especially as you get further away from the bigs.

          • Peter

            I think there can be a better balance of looking at potential and performance then there is now.

            not to say minor league numbers should be looked at as gospel…because they shouldn’t be. No way. But it wouldn’t hurt to take a players performance a little bit more serious then some folk do now.

        • Rick in Boston

          Bias is inherent in these lists based on what guys look for in players. Delmon Young was a legit prospect who went #1 overall in the draft as a 17 year old before debuting the next year and ripping shit up as an 18-year old in a full-season league.

          Most ‘experts’ like Kelly because he offers more upside: better fastball, but breaking stuff, better all-around athlete.

          I guarantee you this, mryankee: in three years, Kelly will replace Verlander as your “why didn’t Cashman trade for him” guy.

          • mryankee

            Did Cashman have a chance to draft Verlander? would he of? who knows? I am sure teh draft is an in exact science. just think when I hear about these guys I hear so much about what he could be not what he is.

            • Rick in Boston

              Drafts and prospects are all inexact sciences. You’re taking a 17/18 year old high schooler and trying to figure out where he is in 6/7/8 years when he’s reached his physical maturation.

              • mryankee

                Your right and I agree my issue is we listen to the “experts” to tell us who is good and who is not.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  mryankee:

                  Make yourself an expert. Study, research, think, and examine. You won’t succeed–none of us do–but you’ll get close by trying, and the journey will be a helpful one. You’ll think through things more clearly.

                  Don’t just take other people’s words and accept them unquestioningly.

                • pete

                  /we synthesize opinions of “experts” we trust, and then throw in our personal biases, especially when they’re backed up by minor league numbers, to confirm them, to form our own opinions. When it comes down to it, everybody has different opinions on what is relevant in a prospect. You can choose who you want to believe and who you don’t, but chances are, if you’re simply dismissing someone like Keith Law, you’ll probably be wrong more often than he will (and you’ll both be wrong a lot).

                • Colombo

                  We listen to professionals who get paid to find talent. The professionals, a/k/a “scouts” or “talent evaluators”, pass along their recommendations to the draft people, who then decide who to pick. I don’t think they come back and say, “This guy sucks. We should grab him.”

                  The draft is all about research, evaluation, and hoping that young players develop the way you project them to. Busts happen. Issue shouldn’t be taken when this occurs. For every Derek Jeter there are like 50 Drew Hensons.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Did Cashman have a chance to draft Verlander? would he of? who knows?

              http://www.google.com

              Learn things by doing. Explore the world of information and arm yourself with knowledge.

              • mryankee

                Hey I went through the first rounds from 2003-2008-Verlander was not a first rounder?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  :: facepalm ::

                  Go here.

                  http://www.baseball-reference.com/

                  Look up the player you’re interested in, i.e., Justin Verlander. On his page will be a link to his draft class. Read it.

                  Learn.

                • A.D.

                  Then you missed something:

                  Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 1st round (2nd pick) of the 2004 amateur draft.

                  http://www.baseball-reference......ju01.shtml

                • JGS

                  how hard did you look?

                  he went second overall in 2004

                • Tampa Yankee
                • mryankee

                  My bad I must not have sen his name, ok Cashman your off the hook they never had a chance to get him. LOL

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Damnit, I didn’t want anyone to give him the answer.

                  I wanted him to find it himself. The learning process must be practiced and repeated for it to work effectively.

                • Tampa Yankee

                  My bad tommie…

                  /puts head down and sulks

      • JGS

        bats thrown at umpires: 1

        • pat

          Ooh, gritty.

          • JGS

            nah–only white guys can be gritty. gritty black guys are called things like “exciting” and “athletic”

    • pete

      I have to admit that I’m a little perplexed, after having watched young play for a couple years, at why he was so highly touted for so long. My guess is that people added power projection because of his big frame, and he had reputedly a terrific natural hitting ability in the minors. Still, it’s really hard for me to see that swing producing much power at all.

      And as for the McAllister argument, you’re missing a key point. McAllister has one year of dominance at the AA level at age 21 on his resume. He’s certainly a prospect anybody would like to have, but you can’t project much out of him. That’s not to say he couldn’t replicate those numbers at the MLB level, just that it’s incredibly rare for guys with average stuff to dominate in the majors, whereas it’s fairly common for guys with great stuff and great command to at the very least pitch fairly well at the major league level. Kelly is a guy with only solid bordering on above average stuff right now, but he absolutely obliterated the minors last year, at a young age, and, MUCH more importantly, scouts see him adding a few mph to his fastball. When a guy already has terrific command, a great feel for pitching, slightly above average stuff, and the numbers Kelly has, he’s a good prospect. When he projects to IMPROVE, he’s a terrific prospect. And even having said that, K-Law is a little high on Kelly. With guys in the low minors, scouts’ opinions are always going to vary a lot. Law just happens to be on the higher end. But regardless, any way you look at it, Casey kelly is a good prospect. period.

      • Rick in Boston

        With regards to Young – he was such a stud when he was drafted and what he did at his age at those levels is Montero-esque. And you could see the type of hitter his brother developed into and they could see projection.

        He’s still only, what, 24? I’d say he could bounce around a bit and turn into a solid player in the same line as his brother.

        • pete

          I dunno. I look at that swing and see doubles power, but never too many HRs. With his defense and plate discipline, he should be hitting HRs. Of course, the man is a behemoth who swings what appears to a 36 or 37 inch bat. Maybe if he goes the bonds route and cleans up his swing and gets a bit smaller bat, he could change as a hitter.

          • Rick in Boston

            I’d agree with that. A smaller bat with his strength would definitely improve his bat speed. I also think that he needs a good batting coach.

            If it came down to it and I had the choice to grab him now for the Yankees for the remains of JB Cox’s career, I’d do it in a cocaine heartbeat.

  • CountryClub

    The little respect I had left for Law evaporated yesterday.

    • pete

      really? other than the sox being ahead of the rays, I really didn’t have much of a problem with his ranking. It’s always good to get a reality check on your guys, and the reality is, the yanks have one stud prospect, and a bunch of guys who could end up on that list next year, but chances are, plenty of guys will flop. When your 25-man is as good as the Yanks’ is right now, you should be able to live with that.

      • mryankee

        If the Yankees had a young Longoria, Verlander and Pujols in the system Klaw would find a way to rank the Sox ahead of the Yankees. I do not hear mention of how Lars Anderson flopped last year, after him who is major league ready? Bowden-the guy the Yankees absoloutely torched last year? who else is on the cusp of being ML ready in their system?

      • CountryClub

        The Yankees system is middle of the road right now. And being middle of the road is more than enough to help them achieve their big league goal every.

        However, they do not have the 25th best system in baseball. And the Sox have nowhere close to the #2 system. Both teams are very similar right now. They have high end talent in the lower levels of their systems and very little in the upper levels. Both teams should fall in the 10 – 20 range. There is no way that one is 23 spots better than the other.

        And when you look at his top 100 you see why he ranks them so high. 7 Sox in the top 100? Please….

        • mryankee

          I just want to know who all these great players are? The only name I know in their system that is at the higher levels is Lars Anderson. I think KLaw must have been refused a job by the Yankees when he was younger.

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan – Cashman Has No Equal

    It is kind of sad to see a few former prospects in our system on the list.

    However, Austin Jackson will never be Curtis Granderson.

    Arodys Vizcaino has a LONG way to go.

    Tabata won’t be the “Manny Ramirez” we once categorized him as. He’ll probably end up as Jose Guillen if anything.

    I’m okay with winning a 27th World Championship and being in prime condition to win 28 in 2010 than having a boatload of future talent which may or may not ever become something.

  • JohnC

    and we have all our draft picks this year, even though its the last spot. #32. This year is supposedly very strong in pitching, particularly right hand pitching. A couple of previous draftees who did not sign are eligible again this year, Sam Dyson and Matt Harvey

  • pete

    I wouldn’t worry about this. There’s a decent chance that in addition to Jesus and Heathcott make next year’s top 50, and ManBan, McAllister, Sanchez, Ramirez, and Murphy all crack either the top 100 or “10 guys who didn’t make it” article. And there’s also a chance that some sox guys drop. Another bad year from anderson would likely pull him out of the top 100, and if Kallish doesn’t hit, he won’t be there either.

    • pete

      and of course, brack could re-crack it, as could Betances, if either has a decent 2010.

    • A.D.

      Plus got guys like Warren & Cotham that have a chance to take big steps forward.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Unless, of course, the Jesus doesn’t qualify for next year’s list because he’s already made the bigs.

      Tommie: very aroused.

      Seriously, though, yeah. Romine, Heathcott, Adams, Murphy, Sanchez, DeLeon, Z-Mac, Nova, Brackman, Betances, Ramirez, Bleich… we have a bunch of guys who could leap right into the top 100 with good seasons this year.

    • pat

      My guy to watch next year is Corban Joseph. I <3 his .380 obp. 80 points higher than his BA. Dirty dirt.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        MULTIPASS

  • bexarama

    I feel like Vizcaino wouldn’t even be on the list if he was still with the Yankees. He has potential, but he’s got a long way to go.

    Montero FTW, please teach him to play left field so that way everyone will stop whining about how LF has no power.

  • D-Coops

    So if we traded Montero, would he all of a sudden become the best prospect in baseball .

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    FWIW, Law’s top ten prospects by org (also Insider):

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=4865694

    New York Yankees
    1. Jesus Montero, C
    2. Manny Banuelos, LHP
    3. Zach McAllister, RHP
    4. Austin Romine, C
    5. Slade Heathcott, CF
    6. Jose Ramirez, RHP
    7. Gary Sanchez, C
    8. Andrew Brackman, RHP
    9. David Adams, 2B
    10. JR Murphy, C

    • Steve H

      But Bo said yesterday that Brackman was the #1 pitching prospect the Yankees have as ranked by Klaw. Are you trying to tell me that Bo (or was it Lanny) didn’t actually read what was written yesterday?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Shocking, isn’t it?

  • TheZack

    Ahh, nothing like prospect lists to bring out the bad sides of both side of the equation: people who get up in arms about the Yankees/Sox ranking and think it has more point and value than it does, and the snarky, how can you know so little I must belittle you frequent posters.

    People, prospect rankings don’t matter at all. The Yankees won the WS. Period. End of discussion.

    People, some people don’t have the time, energy, or vast, all worldly baseball knowledge that you do, so cut them a break. Just because they aren’t so supper internet and baseball savvy as you are doesn’t mean its okay to condescend and treat them like they are somehow beneath you.

    So, in summary: it doesn’t matter who Law ranks where, what matters is what that player does this season and what you can get another GM to trade you for that player.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      There’s a difference between not having baseball knowledge and not having critical thinking skills.

      I never get frustrated by someone who is merely ignorant. I get frustrated by the willfully ignorant or the intellectually lazy. There’s nothing wrong with not knowing something. There is something wrong with being okay with not knowing something. There is something wrong with jumping to conclusions from positions of ignorance and believing that your conclusions are logically sound.

    • pat

      Most people here are griping about Law’s rankings. The only person who is being belittled is another regular who is frequently vocal and even more frequently under informed. People shouldn’t say dumb shit if they don’t have anything to back it up. Simple as that. It’s internet Darwinism.

    • pete

      the assumption on this blog is that everyone who comments on it has read all the comments before theirs, as well as the article above. The only people who get shat on here are those who blatantly ignore preexisting counter-arguments that fully and empirically address their own, and post them anyway, because A) it’s really annoying to read the same argument 14 times when it just repeats itself without addressing the points raised in its counter-arguments, and B) it creates a circular discussion that contributes nothing to anybody’s knowledge.

  • Reggie C.

    Hahaha.

    Klaw brushed off my Rizzo question. Surprised he even fielded it at the end of his chat. Anyone care to give me a summary of Klaw’s Rizzo writeup?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      53 Anthony Rizzo
      Age: 20 (DOB: Aug. 8, 1989)
      Bats: Left Throws: Left
      Position: First Base Organization: Boston Red Sox
      Top ’09 Level: A (Salem)
      2009 ranking: UR

      Boston’s (former) top first-base prospect, Lars Anderson, struggled last year, but Rizzo is on the rise. Rizzo lost most of 2008 to his battle with limited stage classical Hodgkin’s lymphoma. He’s fully recovered now and, during his time away from baseball, transformed himself physically, making himself leaner and more athletic. In the process, he became one of the best defensive first basemen in the minors. He’s a left-handed hitter with a very easy stroke that generates line drives to all fields, although as he grows he should develop 25-30 home run power. His approach at the plate remains immature, unsurprising given the time he missed, and he has to work on getting himself into better counts where he can stay back and drive the ball. He can’t match Anderson’s offensive potential, but Rizzo’s defensive prowess and strong 2009 put him ahead of Lars on the Red Sox rankings.

      • Reggie C.

        Ohhh … so Rizzo is the feel-good, beat-cancer story of the list. Makes perfect sense.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          And yet, his inclusion makes me feel bad.

    • A.D.

      What’d you ask?

      • Reggie C.

        “Please Explain the Anthony Rizzo ranking.”

        - Klaw posted it towards the very end of his chat. he fielded a bunch of questions this afternoon. I think its still up. I dont have insider access so check now before the wall goes up. Klaw said he’s being called a yankee hater today.

  • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

    if anyone is interested in a 2 second way to crack the ESPN URL and get the rankings for free, DM me on twitter. its so easy its scary.

  • Gleb

    “I want to be a catcher. I love to catch. I like to be a catcher. I like to be in the middle of the game. I mean, it’s my position. I want to play my position.”

    Jesus has spoken.

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