Open Thread: Higashioka gets the call
ByWell, kinda. Robert Pimpsner of Baseball Digest tweets that the Yankees have invited 19-year-old catching prospect Kyle Higashioka to Major League Spring Training. I’m sure the Yanks’ 7th round pick in the 2008 Draft is excited for the opportunity, but this isn’t a sign that the organization has big expectations or anything like that. I’m sure they do, but this move is more along the lines of “we have more than a dozen mounds in the Tampa complex, and we need people to catch.” No shame in that.
Higashioka hit .253-.333-.332 in 247 plate appearances for the Short Season Staten Island Yanks last season, but he’s got some killer bat skills (only 31 strikeouts). He’ll get an invite with the intent of giving him a chance to show off his skills soon enough. For now, he should just soak it all up.
Here’s your open thread for the evening. The Devils, Rangers, and Knicks are all in action, plus the Pro Bowl is on ESPN. Nothing like watching the 6th or 7th best QB in the league get some playing time. Enjoy the thread.





http://twitpic.com/10rwqq
Cool t-shirt or world’s coolest t-shirt?
Coolest.
To Joe/Ben/anyone who might know, when do those things go on sale? I need one.
Looks like someone didn’t read RAB today (I keed, I keed)
I would love to have one. I bet people in NY would get it but most people in Colorado would just get confused. There aren’t too many smart baseball people where I live.
I have a feeling not many people anywhere would get it.
Yeah I would tend to agree with this.
Yea, that’s probably true. I guess I should’ve said that more people in NY would get it than in Colorado because there are more baseball fans there.
Word; regardless of where, it’d be totally awesome when someone did recognize it.
I don’t get it
its the formula for OBP, I believe
Ha.
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/.....iami-27737
How wasted was he? As for Miami fans getting their panties in a bunch.. Get over it.
Post-steak, pre-tubing
That’s all sorts of awesome.
You forgot the Nets – winning 48-46 against Philly
Like that’s gonna last
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!
I’m researching philosophy. Right now I’ve been given a similar mindfuck as to when claybuccholzloveslaptops and Evil Empire introduced quantum physics to me.
Did you know that it’s possible we’re just brains ain a vat of some sort of liquid in a mad scientist’s lab?
At work two weeks ago, I had a conversation about theoretical physics with an 11 year old who can’t do basic addition.
Philosophy makes my brain hurt.
But the cool thing is that when you take it as a course, your final paper can be utter and complete bullshit and you still get an A.
Doesn’t it need to be complete and utter bullshit to get an A?
Even if it’s in a vat.
I’m reading about Special Education.
You work with 11-year olds? What sort of punishment is that for?
Well, technically, yes. I’m a) interning at a middle school as part of my master’s program and b) working as a tutor at a Huntington Learning Center (mostly doing SAT prep), so, yeah, 11 year olds are, unfortunately, a big part of my day.
I would need to be paid unbelievable sums of money to work with children. I barely have the patience to deal with relatively even-keeled, responsible adults. You have my sympathies (unless you chose to do a Master’s in Education).
Yes, I chose to do a Master’s in Education.
Speaking as a fellow teacher who did the whole interning thing last year…I’ll take the kids issues over the adult ones any day.
Good choice for special education by the way, this job market is brutal enough, but that is an in-demand area.
This is the truest thing I’ve ever read. I have no problems dealing with my kids, but I hate having to deal with parents, other teachers, and administrators.
Totally agree man. What really gets me is fellow teachers who give you issues and totally disrupt your instruction and the kids learning. I get that everyone has their own responsibilities to meet, but it is insane how often kids are pulled out of class. I don’t agree with it (for obvious personal biases), but I understand why the teaching profession is critiqued and criticized so often.
Tutoring 11 year olds? Huntington says it only has fully licensed teachers working with students. Hmmmm
You’re not “licensed” therefore you don’t know how to teach 5th OR 6th grade math. ha
That must be one stupid 11 year old.
“Did you know that it’s possible we’re just brains ain a vat of some sort of liquid in a mad scientist’s lab?”
Didn’t you see the Matrix?
That was a similar concept, but not exactly the same. That was a computer simulation.
Yah, I know. How do you think the mad scientist would feed the vat-brains appropriate stimuli?
Phil 101 always has that paper with the brains-in-vats in it. The notion is pretty old, right? When I took it, it was right when the matrix came out. Great movie, but it was funny how many people I knew talked about what a mind blowing notion it was and I’d just read about a guy who thought up basically the same thing 50 years ago.
Descartes was the first, except instead of “brain in a vat” it was “an evil demon is controlling what I perceive as reality”. Same concept, though.
Holy Mo. Wilfork is ginormous.
With the footwork of a ballerina.
I predict that Kyle Higashioka will be the greatest 3rd string catcher in Yankee history. He will be behind Jestin Romtero who will be backing up Da Jesus.
But what about Melvin?!?!?!?!
Since when is He a catcher?
He’s Melvin. He does everything.
Fair enough.
Melvin will just…be….awesome.
FACT: Melvins pitches have enough velocity to travel around the world, negating the need of a catcher, since melvin merely throws the ball, waits 4.3 seconds, turns around, and catches it. Sometimes, to make other players feel better, he bobbles or drops the ball when it comes back to him.
All three of whom break the current HR record. In the same season.
i assume you’re referring to the career mark, since saying “jesus’s backup and backup’s backup” and “more than 73 home runs in a season” is a little redundant, IMO
Well, duh. I didn’t think I needed to say that.
Ugh. Why are the backstreet boys singing the National Anthem?
Because it’s 1999.
They still perform together?
Is it me or should Verlander not sign a 5 year deal? I have to figure that in 2 years he will command about 20 per.
No idea but a young rapper once told me 1) Make money 2) Fuck bitches.
I suppose he could accomplish both tasks signing the 5-year or waiting.
No idea but a young rapper once told me 1)
MakeGet money 2) Fuck bitches.isn’t it really:
1) Fuck bitches
2) Get money
?
Junior mafia featuring lil kim.
this song right?
Of course.
‘Naw I ain’t gay this aint no lesbo flow
Just a lil somethin, to let you motherfu**ers know’
Lil Kim went crazy on that.
Damn.
I dunno, he was some 11-year old in Connecticut.
I thought it as
1.) Acquire currency.
2.) Disregard women.
With the workload he had last year he might as well take the money now. It’s not like it’s Longoria money, and as a pitcher a lot more can go wrong. He’ll hit FA at 32, so he should still be able to cash in then.
This.
I was really hoping one of Verlander, Felix, and Johnson would hit free agency soon. But oh well.
I don’t totally disagree but…
Being a FA when you’re
29 is night and day from when you’re 32. Especially as a flame throwing beast starter. I guess he’d get like 6-8 million in Arb this year. 9-12 next. I think I’d rather go year to year. It is tough to refuse the security that comes with 5/75 though.
You gotta take the guaranteed money when it is that much.
Also is the difference really going to be night and day between 29 and 32?
Best case scenario I imagine he would get Johan money at 6/120, and I think I am being pretty generous there.
At 32, Burnett and Lackey both got 80 million. Verlander I imagine would get more then that, probably 90 million if he keeps it up. Factor in the the 75 million already in the bank and there is a chance he could actually make more money in this scenario. And if something goes wrong along the way, no problem because he and a few more future Verlander generations are already set for life
Take the guaranteed $ now. He’s a pitcher, he could lose it all tomorrow. How bad off would the Marlins be if they had signed Dontrelle Willis a few years back? Do you think Chien Ming Wang would have liked a big fat extension 2 years ago? He did, and the Yanks passed. You never know with pitchers.
The Tigers are stupid if they sign him, his fastball was crap in 08, and nobody could figure out why. Now he has a great season and they’re committing for 5 years? Stupid.
It’s impossible to put ourselves in his shoes but.. If he’s comfortable with his arm and work ethic, he may want to go year to year. The dude has pitched 186, 201, 201 and 240 innings the past four years, respectively. If my Arb guesses are anywhere near accurate, he can make say;
7 mil in 2010
10 mil in 2011
Hit free agency and get 6 years 120 mil?
137 for 8 years=17aav
or take the 5/75 and get 15 aav over the next 5.
I dunno. It’s a tough call. This is his year 27 season, FA has got to be tempting.
Random thoughts:
1) Corona is overrated
2) Lil Wayne is also overrated
/ducks for cover
Do you mean the beer or the baseball player?
Beer.
Oh, yeah, Corona sucks.
Well its better than Bud Light Lime….but that’s not saying much.
Milwaukee’s Best Ice is better than Bud Light Lime
Agreed.
All Mexican beers are overrated. One of the better ones is Pacifico and even that isn’t great.
I prefer Sol or Modelo if I want a Mexican beer.
As for Lil Wayne. You really have to be immersed in the hiphop world to respect what he does. The dude literally comes out with a new mixtape every other week.
Yes to Modelo. No to Sol.
I like Dos Equis Dark. Dos Equis? Not so much.
I prefer Dos Equis
/Jonathan Goldsmith’d
“lil wayne is overrated”
If lil wayne’s mother thought he was ok and everyone else in the world thought he sucked, he’d be overrated. As it currently stands, “overrated” is a horrifying understatement
so wait you do or don’t like lil wayne.
I have no problem with people who do. I just don’t like his music for some reason.
i hate it more than most things in the world, yes. Or rather, I hate it, and the auto-tune craze that it kicked in in the pop music industry that has somehow, against overwhelming odds, brought pop music to an all-time low. I won’t deny that it genuinely bothers me when people like his music, although i try not to be rude. While I can hardly blame him for capitalizing on a superficial trend in the industry, I think his music and music reminiscent of it is popularizing a brand of music that requires less musical talent than musicianship ever has before, which is making actual musicians all the less valuable of a commodity, which of course makes it impossible for them to make any money, which forces them out of the field.
Pop music always has and always will be an industry that is inexplicably sexualized, but it has gotten to the point where it seems like artists are “chosen” by record companies because of their looks first and foremost, musical talent being considered more of an afterthought. Sometimes it almost seems like new rappers are intentionally given big cash signing bonuses so that they go crazy and spend it all right away on ridiculous luxuries that they’ll end up regretting when they run out of money in 2 years, but they immediately get film crews to make videos at these rappers’ mansions to depict the sexualized fantasies of fame and money and glory that these companies have themselves instilled in the american public. In other words, these rappers get signed to deals that make them rich because they are good looking, and then their records sell because they are rich, famous, and good looking, none of which has anything to do with actual musical talent.
As for lil wayne, i probably begrudge him the most because he literally does not actually create music in any way shape or form anymore. He was, at one point, a moderately talented rapper who made a couple of highly successful com-rap albums that weren’t particularly bad. But now, his “recordings” are auto-tuned mashups of things he says while speaking into a microphone while high, set to samples that he doesn’t even pick out or splice himself. Again, I don’t blame him for capitalizing on the industry, but it sickens me that pop musicians have, for the most part, essentially become skanky socialites whose fame is created by their record companies to sell records that hold no musical merit on their own.
JMO
Well said, sir, well said, indeed.
I couldn’t disagree more. He’s taking advantage of the market and making as much money as possible in what is the iTunes Era. As you mentioned, he’s capitalizing on the market.
Now, your opinion of him is based on songs you’ve heard that have been glamorized and repeated(over and over) by the Pop Industry.
Just a guess, but you’ve probably never heard of his group, Sqad up. They have 7 cds out, with Wayne on nearly every song.
I literally have over 900 of Wayne’s songs that I’ve amassed over the past 7 or so years. If I could put a number on the amount of songs that feature Auto-tune it would be well under 10 percent, probably closer to 5%.
well yeah, that diatribe was more related to the autotune craze that followed his use of it. I’ve never liked any of his music, though, auto-tuned or not. I don’t think he is a good lyricist at all, his voice annoys me, and I don’t find his samples even remotely interesting. Of course, I’m not a huge modern rap fan – as far as rap goes, I’m more along the lines of Illmatic-era Nas, Tribe Called Quest, Digable Planets, Main Source, etc – but I still find all of Lil Wayne’s music to be borderline unlistenable or worse. That, however, is purely my opinion, and I cannot begrudge the man for making music i don’t like. I do, however, begrudge the public for falling into the “rich and famous = good” meme that record companies have been pushing for the past few years, pushing bad music all over the place.
Word. I too grew up listening to Illmatic, then as I got a bit older I got into Tribe. It’s different music, no doubt.
The only issue I have is that people listen to this mass production pop Wayne-is-on-every-song, Lil Wayne and assume that’s all he is. He’s far from that. His music ranges all over the spectrum.
He makes some music that I listen to in the gym, or getting ready for a night out. He’s got music that gets the freaks dancin. He has music that more relaxed girls can vibe to in the bed. He’s got stuff that can help you relax. Stuff with some deep lyrics that make you think. Honestly, he’s got music for every occasion.
That’s how I’ve grown to love his music.
At the end of his last retail album he explained that the next album he comes out with is going to be different, and that not everyone would like it. So he came out with this most recent, rock-infused(with him on the guitar) album. To me, he’s just a dude making music and that can easily get lost in the iTunes world.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, Robert Pimpsner is also a proud member of BMTA.
Worst All-Star game:
A.Nfl
B.Nba
C.Mlb
D.That game they play on ice
NFL.
+1
P.S. isn’t it time to take the (Formerly RAB Poster) off of your handle? I think we all know who you are by now.
Who?
I had this discussion with TSJC before. The name is, in short, a connection to the past when I was an anti-stat b-jobber. It stays as a reminder to remain humble.
Haha, I like it.
a connection to the past when I was an anti-stat b-jobber.
Born again RAB-er
Amen.
This year I’d go with NFL since the league is forcing SB-bound players to fly down early and stand on the sidelines.
At least the NBA, MLB, and NHL do other things like the slam dunk competition, the HR derby and the trick shot competition.
The pro-bowl is just well a football game which has 0 meaning to it. Maybe they could set up some skills competitions? Like I don’t know, see if Peyton Manning can throw a football threw a tire swing at 50 yards out? or see if Janikowski can kick a field goal from 70 yards out?
Didn’t they do this like 2-3 years ago??? Maybe I’m confusing it with the college skills competition but I could swear I remember the pros doing it.
I have no idea. But I’d watch that.
Not even close, NFL.
NBA is the type of game that ca actually be played in and allstar format. Granted, defense is often absent.
MLB can be played too but let’s face it, when a starter goes 2 innings(maybe), it’s tough to take too seriously.
Watching Wilfork “rush” the qb tells you everything you need to know about the Pro-Bowl. It’s a joke.
or Mario Williams. It’s as if somehas been telling the D-line to not hurt the Nfl’s babies(QBs)
Yeah the Pro Bowl isn’t rally the NFL football game & when you add lack of participation, just makes it even worse.
I wish hockey would get their game onnational tv.
You know what’s sad? The Penguins were on national TV earlier today. IDK, it might have been Fox. Nobody watched.
It’s always the Pwnguins on national tv though.
NBC, and I did
Congrats.
It was a great game. Malkin had a sick goal in the shootout to win it for Pitt.
Good for the kid. I do like his pitch recognition.
Thought this warranted a fresh post. Tom Zig brought this up and I found some visual evidence.
The NFL had a skills competition as recent as 2007. I remember ESPN showed the various events, I remember a sprint competition, QB accuracy, WR hands competition along with may others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
The video just shows my boy Mike Vick in the accuracy competition.
This was and still should be the best part of Pro Bowl weekend.
They do have this for senior college players (or guys that have declared for the draft), which is interesting.
I’d like to see a skills competition for the Baseball All Star Game. You can do it during Workout Day, which includes the HR Derby.
-Best Catcher vs Best Baserunner
-Best Control for Pitcher, with a small target at Home Plate they’d have to hit.
-Best Outfield arm competition
Stuff like that.
I think it’s tough to do for baseball. Especially with the pitchers. The HR Derby is probably as good as we’ll get.
OF arm could work, and would be pretty awesome. You could have a long toss competition or an accuracy competition or a charging-and-throwing-out competition. You could also do a wall climbing competition
Yeah a few things could work. OF Arm. Maybe a race to see who can get to 2nd the fastest.
the charging part reminded me of the Pros vs Joes episode with John Rocker where the contestant had to charge the mound ad try and wrestle Rocker off of it. Can’t find any clips of it though.
Nastiest breaking pitch?
+a lot to this. It would give me a good reason to watch the ASG.
I like these ideas. But isn’t the catcher vs baserunner too much of an injury risk?
I assumed he meant throwing the guy out, not a home-plate collision
Though, I’d sure as hell watch a colliding-at-home-plate contest, as long as no Yankees we participating. I could watch Kevin Youkilis barrel headlong into AJ Pierzynski all day.
For who? I’m talking stealing 2nd base.
I know what you meant, perhaps i’m just thinking too worst case scenario like.
/Pete Rose’d
Whenever I see DeSean Jackson I think of this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....e-fu_sport
If I was Eagles fan I wouldn’t be happy seeing McNabb scrambling around in this game
If I was an Iggles fan I would not want him doing whatever it is he just did.
Fun fact of the night:
Gregg Jefferies received ROY votes in 2 seasons, without someone Edinson Volquez’ing it.
So are you gonna keep that blog up now or was that a one time thing?
Who knows. I’d like to keep writing, but I don’t always have ideas. I was the type of kid in school that if you told me what to write about, I could do 10 pages, but if the teacher told me to write about whatever I wanted, I’d blank. I’m hoping to at least put up some shorter posts on a regular basis and see where it goes from there.
That’s the key to starting out: little things frequently.
I’ll blog up with you, Steve.
I would read a JMK blog.
A JMK blog would be fantastic.
I’m down with that.
Is there a specific platform or angle you want to work? Baseball only? Yankees only? Satire? Serious? Social commentary?
Honestly I don’t have anything in particular in mind, probably sports in general, as that would give me more things to write about. Primarily serious but with plenty of room for satire mixed in. What do you have in mind?
You two will be the new FJM, going across all sports, not just baseball. Hell, JMK won’t even need to make up an alternative personality.
I hadn’t given it great thought, but I don’t like to take myself too seriously. I know that much. I’d like to try out a humor-based angle, particularly on the Yankees, but I’m fairly flexible.
Beyond that, I don’t know much of anything about hockey or the NFL. Sports on a whole don’t interest me too much; baseball does, and to a lesser extent, NBA and college sports. I’d like to have the option to write brief bits on strange news stories, sports, pop culture (I know way too much about bad television/music). It’s probably best to keep religion, politics clear of things.
Thoughts?
Not having you write humor-based would be a waste. I’d certainly like to have it be pretty wide ranging and flexible, but we’d probably be pretty Yankee centric. Having you write on strange news, pop culture etc, would be hilarious. I pay attention to MLB, NFL, NBA in that order, with at least knowledge of goings on in other sports.
Write about whatever you want in whatever style you want. If you don’t, you’ll get frustrated trying to please the masses.
Sweet, we’re going to have masses to worry about?
Good advice, Mike. Steve-I’ll just start basic WordPress and we’ll see what sticks.
Shoot me an e-mail when you get a chance: jameskleimann@yahoo.com
Okay, if they’re not going to allow blitzing in the Pro Bowl, what’s the point of even having the linemen? Just have the QB take the snap and give him 5-7 seconds to throw it. If he doesn’t throw it by then, its an incomplete and they move to the next down.
that’d be just down right silly to watch.
No more silly than it is now, though.
Yeah, and Bryant Mckinnie could go out in Miami and do all the partying he wants.
I think that the Pro Bowl should be between the Conference Championships and the Superbowl, but have none of the Super Bowl participants be in it. That way, more people will watch and there will be no effect on the Super Bowl.
That’s what they’re doing now, isn’t it?
Wow. How come I said that they were and all of my friends said I was crazy? Whatever. They are dumb, even though theyre bigger football fans than me. Aaaand I pretty much missed the whole thing. Not that I missed much.
Philip Rivers has five kids?!
What?!? Is Phillip Rivers a Mormon or something?
Wow. He started dated his wife in 7th grade.
I’m pretty sure Rivers is one of those really devout no-sex-before-marriage Christians. Irony’s a bitch.
No sex before marriage =/= doesn’t like sex
The man likes making love to his wife, doesn’t believe in contraception (possibly) and can afford to have as many kids as he wants. Go ahead, bro.
I’m one of those… and I’m 1 of 6…
That’s dedication, homes.
I’m watching something on YES, just a replay of the year, and they just did Jeter’s hit record and it reminded me of how pissed off I was at that moment because Michael Kay would just no shut the fuck up. He did as much as he could to ruin that moment.
2009 Yankeeography
Figured.
It’s a great watch. Since it focuses more on the regular season it goes well with the MLB video, which focuses more on the playoffs.
I missed most of it and came in at Andy’s near perfecto. Hopefully they replay it before the night’s up.
I think Michael Kay just says stuff that would be used in Yankees Classics on like the commercials and stuff.
http://twitter.com/yesmichaelkay/status/8335426115
Fake Michael Kay is one of the greatest things I have ever read.
And the worst part of all was that every second of it was planned and rehearsed. You can tell he was cooking that up for weeks.
Oh definitely. What an ass.
Honestly, I didn’t mind too much. Too be honest I hardly noticed it.
I don’t particularly like or dislike Michael Kay. To me, he’s just there.
This. He’s not good but there’s a LOT worse. Even if you take out Buck, McCarver, Joe Morgan and the rest of ESPN there’s still a lot of bad ones.
The Hawk is my favorite.
I’d never heard of the Hawk until Buehrle’s perfecto.
I learned to hate him almost immediately. “YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!”
It was like a jack hammer being driven into my skull.
has anyone heard the Mariners’ announcer? WORST EVER
And if you heard the call of the Phillies’ announcers over Rollins’ game-winning double in that walk-off they had in the NLCS and Feliz’s WS Game 4 HR, I thought it was Hawk Harrelson “YES! YES! YES!”-level embarrassing.
The White Sox announcers are horrible as well. Once Eric Hinske hit a HR fir the Yanks one time you did not hear a thing for 5 minutes.
though on A-Rod’s go-ahead double off Lidge, as the Phillies’ announcer rather despondently calls the play, you hear the other guy in the booth with him go “UGH,” which is just amazing.
Yeah, Kay isn’t as bad as they are, but few are.
Plus, we don’t have to listen to them for 110+ games.
On the top of my head there’s Chip Caray, Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, Joe Morgan, Steve Phillips and Jon Miller. And we’re not even into team specific ones which a few a much worse than Kay.
I find Hawk Harrelson hilarious
He is charmingly bad to me. I mean, the guy says “Good guys comin’ up!” before every time the White Sox bat. It’s so dumb that I just can’t hate that. And like I said above, the Mariners’ announcer is like fifty times worse. Hawk Harrelson is pretty much universally regarded as an awful announcer, but I’ve never seen anyone complain about whoever does the Mariners’ games.
You know the crazy thing about Harrelson? The White Sox pulled him out of the booth in 1986 and made him the GM for a while.
Imagine if the Yanks pulled Kay out of the booth and made him the GM.
hah oh dear lord, I can’t imagine the consequences of that.
I can’t stand Kay. He comes off as a pompous, arrogant jerk when someone has a different opinion than him.
Besides that, I don’t like the way he calls a game, whether it’s “a deep drive!” to the infield grass or if he inserts his voice into a situation that really needs no narration, he just annoys me.
I traded for Kevin Durant, and today was the first day he was eligible for me.
45 and 11. 16-21 from the field, 11-11 from the line, 2 3′s, 2 steals.
Damn.
Devils slumping a bit now.
Hockey’s a streaky game so I’m not TOO worried but they’re not playing great hockey right now.
mlbtr reporting the Dodgers gave JAMEY CARROLL 1.35 for ’10 and 2.5 for ’11
GOOD LORD, THAT’S JOHNNY DAMON MONEY
1. Haha, well done.
2. Seriously? That’s way too much for Jamey Carrol.
This contract will be brought up in the divorce proceedings. Whoever signed off on that will lose their part of the team.
Most definitely.
will Melvin Croussett make his state side debut this year? i cant wait to see him!!
He has to decide if we are worthy first.
Melvin Croussett will make his stateside debut on December 21, 2012.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fant.....id=4860316
Carl Crawford in the first round?
Ellsbury in the 2nd?
And this is coming from fantasy baseball experts?
Huge SB #s out of a guy that doesn’t suck = GOLD
[...] Axisa at RAB points out that the Yankees have invited catcher, Kyle Higashioka, to Spring [...]
“…Higashioka hit .253-.333-.332 in 247 plate appearances for the Short Season Staten Island Yanks last season, but he’s got some killer bat skills (only 31 strikeouts)…”
Over a full season, about 600 PAs, he would strike out about 75 times…hardly “killer” bat skills…after all it was A-ball.