Jan
31
Report: Joba’s going to show up early to camp
ByVia Mike Puma, fifth starter candidate Joba Chamberlain will show up to Tampa to begin workouts next week, about two weeks before pitchers and catchers are required to show up. Joe Girardi indicated that Joba, as well as Phil Hughes, Al Aceves, Chad Gaudin, and Sergio Mitre will compete for the fifth starter’s spot in Spring Training (though I suspect Mitre was lumped in as a courtesy), so it’s good to see Joba put the extra work in.
“I’m going to go in and understand a lot of guys are fighting for that spot,” said the righty. “Nothing is guaranteed.” That’s certainly nice to hear, at times Joba seemed a little too comfortable with his spot on the team last year.
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Good! He has a swelled head and is an overrated piece of shit. Hughes should show up early too because of lack of toughness and is also an overrated piece of shit! Can’t wait until they’re off the team within the next 3 years!
Oops. Should have added
/Lombardi’d
I am the Mona Lisa.
/Lombardi’d
He’s the next Sidney Ponson.
/Silva’d
They’re both future Cy young winners
–95% of posters here
Cy Young winners?
How about getting through a full season as a 5th starter?
How about winning 15 games and throwing 200 innings?
They both belong in the bullpen. Their talent is obvious but they can’t be relied upon for anything more than one inning – their stats prove this point.
7th Inning: Hughes
8th Inning: Joba
9th Inning: Rivera
If Girardi does that it doesn’t matter who your 5th starter is.
Salty- That is a good name for you since all the Yankees are a piece of sht to you. You need a little sweetness in your life.
at times Joba seemed a little too comfortable with his spot on the team last year
Did he? I mean of course his results were inconsistent but the kid was also 23 and in his first full season as a starter. I don’t recall him saying anything that would indicate he was taking anything for granted.
Still, this is definitely good news.
+1
A lot of people questioned his commitment(is that the word I’m looking for??) when he said things like, “the sun will come up tomorrow and I’ll get back to work,” and “I thought I had good stuff.. they hit good pitches.” I never understood the concern but a lot of people were put off by him when he said it.
As you mentioned, the dude was 23, inconsistency should be expected. I guess some people would rather him just say, “Man, I sucked tonight. I was the worst.”
As you mentioned, the dude was 23, inconsistency should be expected. I guess some people would rather him just say, “Man, I sucked tonight. I was the worst.”
The same thing happened w/IPK that day he got rocked by the Angels. What’s he supposed to do? Sit there in front of his locker and tell everyone he sucks?
Chamberlain’s “quotes” show someone who realizes that, as a pitcher, he must have a short memory. I’d rather he say stuff like that.
Word.
I have to say though at the time I was a little pissed at IPK. I think Joba may have been a little different in that he was basically a fixture in our rotation.
IPK, a recent call up, came into Hell’s Kitchen while we were grasping for a playoff spot.
After the 2 inning bludgeoning of a performance IPK said “I’m over it.” Or something along those lines. I think it was a different situation that was exacerbated by the fact that we hadn’t missed the playoffs in 13 years and his start was a pretty big one.
Yeah, I’m with you on this one.
I may be reading into it but I think the media/some fans mistaken Joba’s comments as weakness and apathy, when in reality it’s his acknowledgment that he didn’t do well, but it’s not the end of the world because in the grand scheme of things, it’s a small happening. In a sense, there’s a degree of humility to that.
Or he’s a super genius and is just fucking with us.
being honest doesnt have to be saying “you suck”.
“at times Joba seemed a little too comfortable with his spot on the team last year.”
can you find the most important word in that sentence? (hint: it’s “seemed”)
not necessarily disagreeing with you, Mike, but I’m not sure that a guy’s mindset is visible in his on-field demeanor, and I for one believe that, for the most part, the yankees pretty much all operate on “tell the media what they want to hear and always act calm in interviews” MO, so I’m not sure it’s fair to gauge his mindset off of his interviews either. I’m sure Joba was as frustrated as we all were, probably more, by his performance at the end of last year. I’ve been there as a pitcher, when you’re simply not performing at the levels you know you’re capable of performing at, but there’s nothing you can do about it – your stuff feels flat and you can’t seem to control the ball. Sometimes it just happens, and when it does, it’s unbelievably frustrating, and I don’t think I’m anywhere near as competitive a person as Joba is.
but I’m not sure that a guy’s mindset is visible in his on-field demeanor
I think the question is not whether the mindset is visible (see Zambrano, Carlos), but if it’s helpful, hinders performance or has no effect. It would be cool to see a metric measure how some guys pitch when their “mannerisms” are more apparent. (Though I’m not sure how you’d qualify or quantify these things. Just throwing this out there.)
I wonder what his velocity will be like come April. I think he can get it done whether he has the 94-95 or 92-93, it was just perplexing to me last year when it would vary start to start.
Yeah, that was likely from two things: being stretched out for the first time and having to figure out his mechanics to see what worked and what didn’t.
A lot of guys get streteched out and dont lose 8 mph on the fastball
I think getting his vel;ocity up is definittely important and a little underrated. I do think he’ll be consistently 93-96 this year though.
Speaking of Jober, I just realized he led the league in HBP’s(12). heh
Feared.
and AJ led the league in BB and WP. >:( (to be fair though, that leading the league in BB was probably only because Dice-K didn’t pitch the whole season. AJ 4.2 BB/9, Dice-K 4.6 BB/9 in 2009.)
I think Youklis was all 12, as the media would make it seem.
Reply fail!
fun fact: Joba Chamberlain has never hit Kevin Youkilis with a pitch
Mitre will not only make the rotation, but he will lead the Yanks in ERA, Ks, and Wins
I agree with what Jane said about Sergio.
I wrote an article for BBD in the summer called “Matt says: I’m done with Sergio.” I felt cool.
*sax solo*
*fistpumps*
If that five-cent head could be worth a whole dime it might finally match the million-dollar arm…if it becomes worth a quarter he could be a perennial 20 game winner.
How do you know his head, even if it is five cent, is affecting him at all?
Oaktag.
His head? How many other 21 yr olds have great success in the majors?
His head is fine. It’s his velocity and command that are the issues. 95+ solves a lot of problems. When hes at 91 hes not the same pitcher.
Joba reminds me of Roger Clemens when he was first coming up. Roger had a couple of years to start his career that were mediocre.Look what happened to him. I think its good Joba is taking it seriously and is going to be ready to begin the season. I think he’ll be fine if he cuts the crap with only throwing 90-93 when he’s starting.
Joba could learn alot from Roger’s mechanics and leg drive. A splitter/consistent offspeed pitch would take alot of the burden off his fastball/velocity issues as well. We must be patient with our possible #5 starter….
Do you mean that Joba should take steroids, cheat on his wife, throw a bat at Mike Piazza, make Suzyn Waldman all moist, and lie to Congress?
not for another 15 years
I say we bring in Roger as pitching coach now that MacGuire has paved the way!
Clemens was an MVP/Cy Young winner by this time.
Please dont compare a 4-5 inning pitcher who has trouble cracking 92mph to him.
That isnt fair at all.
Hey-o! Boversimplified.
Geez, Salty, a little bit stressed??? Where else you going to find young pitchers with arms that good? They are usually playing for other teams – it’s been years since the Yanks had anything like them. Chill, dude.