Jan
20

Report: Yanks waiting for Damon’s price to come down

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Update (9:45pm): Cashmoney shot this report down, yo.

8:37pm: Old buddy Jerry Hairston Jr. was on Jim Bowden’s radio show on XM 175 earlier this evening, and said that the Yankees never made him an offer for a very specific reason. “Brian Cashman‘s going to get mad at me,” said Jerry, “but Yanks didn’t make me offer because he’s waiting on (Johnny) Damon’s price to come down.” Yes Jerry, you’re going to make Cash angry, and you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.

It’s still possible that Joel Sherman’s report of the team only having $2M left to spend on left field is accurate, and they’re just hoping for Damon to accept an 85% paycut, or it could have been a negotiating ploy. I can hear the conversation now: “Well, we’ve only got $2M left to spend, but if you want $5M, then fine, you win. Our hands … are tied.”

  • Stryker

    uh ohhhhhh.

    hahahahaha jerry just blew up ca$hmoney’s spot, yo.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      To all the ladies in the place with style and grace
      Allow me to lace these lyrical douches, in your bushes
      Who rock grooves and make moves with all the mommies
      The back of the club, sippin Moet, is where you’ll find me
      The back of the club, mackin hoes, my crew’s behind me
      Mad question askin, blunt passin, music blastin
      But I just can’t quit
      Cause one of these honies Biggie gots ta creep with
      Sleep with, keep the ep a secret, why not
      Why blow up my spot cause we both got hot
      Now check it, I got more Mack than Craig and in the bed
      Believe me sweety I got enough to feed the needy
      No need to be greedy I got mad friends with Benz’s
      C-notes by the layers, true f$%&#in players
      Jump in the Rover and come over, tell your friends
      Jump in the GS3, I got the chronic by the tree, cause

      • Salty Buggah

        CC’s warmup song. Good song.

  • Anthony

    Although it is very nice to hear, I would have rather this not be said and Boras never hear about. Oh well… hope it works out.

  • Drew

    I’m actually starting to feel bad for JD. It seems like he has 0 options right now.

    At this point I think he should just come back at 4-5 mil, hit in front of Teix and Al in YSIII and hope there is a better market next year.

    • vin

      He’s like the fat kid at the dance during ladies choice.

      I’ve been a believer that JD will return the entire off-season… I’m not changing course now. He makes too much sense for the Yanks, and not enough for any other team. It’s the best fit.

    • Tank the Frank

      Yeah… I don’t see how having him back at 4 or 5 mil could be a bad thing. Have to hope that he improves somewhat on his defense from last year. And then you have Gardner as a defensive sub and can even spell Damon for a chunk of starts if need be.

    • Tank the Frank

      That would be such a sick lineup if he came back.

      • Drew

        It’s almost to good to be true, that’s the only reason I don’t see it actually happening.

        • Drew

          *too good

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    You do NOT on any circumstance give up information about the ninja, Cashmoney. Jerry may be meeting with fate soon…

    • Stryker

      Jerry may be meeting with fate soon…

      if by fate you mean some sort of death, being on the padres after winning a world series is bad enough.

      • jim p

        In fact, Cash foresaw this talking out of turn, and let Hairston go to SD precisely as punishment. I’ve come to trust him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

    1 year $6.5 million with incentives. Ca$h Money Trillionaire will make like Picard, and make it so.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Jean Afterman: Number One

      • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

        But the sexual tension is like with Doctor Crusher.

  • jeff c in Nashville

    Man I really hope this is accurate.

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    If he comes back this lineup looks really really good. And if he’s really that cheap then it wouldn’t hurt to start Gardner every so often to get some AB’s and some time to make LF not completely suck defensively.

    What do you guys think it’ll look like?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      If he comes back this lineup looks really really good.

      I agree.

      However, if he doesn’t come back, this lineup also looks really, really good.

      /obligatory’d

      • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

        Of course. Damon coming back would be icing on the cake. But it’s some damn good icing.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Frankly, Damon coming back would be the icing on the ICING.

          This cake: already iced.

          /aroused’d

          • DP

            Like the flowers and lettering? What would the lettering say?

            • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

              P-I-M-P

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              I believe the lettering says “28, Bitches”.

              It’s Silian Rail. And the fondant is in Bone.

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    Casheezy is not going to be mad. This is all part of the plan. He pulled back for a while to remind Damon of what he’s missing, now he’s sending out a little love message in the LF’s direction so JD knows where he can look to for a good time. Cash knows The Rules.

    (That being said, oh how I hope this is true. At a good price it would be the best of all possible options.)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Non of Cashman’s people ever say anything he doesn’t want them to say. He’s like Ben Linus (in his prime).

      • WIlliam

        Cashman is like some sort of all seing god/nija. No way this was an accident. Jerry Hairston is just another pawn in cashman’s master plan to get Pujos as DH. Maur as catcher. Feilder and Gonzalez will magically be able to play the corner OF positions as well.

        /Phil Roger’d

  • mustang

    Jerry Hairston Jr walks out of the XM radio station a black car drives up and two guys grab Hairston throwing him in trunk. We never hear from Hairston again.

    Never cross the family.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Jerry Hairston is gonna get Moe Greene’d.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

        No, he’s going to get “Whale’s Vagina’d”.

    • mustang

      All joking aside Damon in that line-up and Jay-Z can start writing another song.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

        1-Jeter
        2-Damon
        3-Tex
        4-Alex
        5-Posada
        6-Johnson
        7-Cano
        8-Swisher
        9-Granderson

        Yeah, pretty much.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Looking at that lineup made me JMP.

        • Warren

          Remove Johnny “its about the money” Damon, insert Nick Johnson and put Jamie Hoffman in the 8 spot.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Remove CC “it’s about the money” Sabathia from the rotation then. For that matter, ship off the entire team and fill it with young hopefuls who’d give anything for a shot to compete and see how well they’d do.

            (Actually, that’d be a pretty good reality show…)

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              ship off the entire team and fill it with young hopefuls who’d give anything for a shot to compete and see how well they’d do. (Actually, that’d be a pretty good reality show…)

              I’ve seen that show. It’s called “The Pittsburgh Pirates”.

              • JGS

                IETC

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                I was making more like altering the idea. Just pick like 20 random players who for one reason or another were never drafted, but who are really good, and add them as an extra minor league team or something. Let them share a stadium with Lehigh Valley. MVP of the team makes the Yankees AAA team and gets to play Spring Training Ball with the Yanks in the hopes of making a roster spot.

                That would be the shit. Make it happen Cash.

                • Drew

                  Take a page out of Jerry Jones book? Nah, that seems like something the Rays would do, not the Yankees.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  True.

                  Then let the Rays do it. Still be a cool show.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  Although, the Yankees do have some sort ofdeal with the Cowboys. Not sure how it works, but there’s a connection.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  FACT: The Steinbrenners and Jerry Jones have collaborated on a business venture before.

                  http://www.legendshm.com/

              • ecksodia

                Brilliant.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          I was about to edit your lineup and move Nick the Stick down to #9 and bump Cano-Swish-Granderson all up a notch. Get the whole “extra leadoff hitter” thing with Nick and his supreme OBP skills at #9.

          But then I realized why you left Nick and his lack of power at #6 (maybe): You don’t want his slow wheels right in front of the Cap’n, what with his proclivity for the ol’ nasty DP action.

          Right?

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

            No, I really didn’t put that much thought into it. I originally had Cano 6th and just thought it was too high, at least for now.

            • Drew

              This is the year, 110+ RBI.

  • Salty Buggah

    Cashmoney will now trade for Scott Hairston in the middle of the season, get him a ring, resign him and get him another ring, and finally let him go back to SD to show off to Jerry (assuming he stays there, which is not that likely but whatever)

  • http://yanksdraftsandprospects.blogspot.com/ Jake H

    I don’t buy that Cash would say that to Jerry’s agent and I’m sure he would never say that to him. I just find it hard to believe.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Yeah, this is very much hearsay unless Jerry was told this directly by Cashman, which is hard to believe. It’s more likely his agent told him this, and he’s repeating it.

      We’d really need to hear the interview to sort this out. Any XM subscribers?

  • Warren

    So Cashman, GM of NY Yankees, is going to tell an utility player that he is waiting on another player’s price to come down ?

    Anyone who actually believes what is said on fan/talk radio are people that purchase land and houses sight-unseen.

    Good luck with that.

    • Drew

      I don’t believe that anyone thinks Cash said “Jerry, we’re waiting for Damon.” I think J-Hair and his agent connected the dots and assumes that that was why he didn’t get an offer.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    Devil’s Lesser Demon’s Advocate:

    Say our offer to Damon is a 1/5M. Wouldn’t the Mets, now that they’ve been spurned by Bengie Molina and thus, have a bit more budgeted money to spend and a bit more offensive need to fill, then jump in with at least a matching 1/5m (or even a superior 1/5.5M?)

    And, say Damon has matching 1/5M offers from us and from the Mets (or some other moderately desirable team, like, say, Seattle or Atlanta or San Fransisco or Florida or something.) If the money’s absolutely identical, would Damon come back to NYY or would he go elsewhere for pride alone?

    We’re getting closer, but I’m still not counting any chickens. The more Damon lowers his price for us, the more he also lowers it for everyone else.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Where’s he going to play? They have what, $40M tied up in their starting OF next year alone?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        He’s going to play LF, Bay’s going to play RF, and Frenchy’s going to center.

        Are you bullish on Carlos Beltran making a speedy recovery and making it back to the field anytime soon? If so, why?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          No, but I don’t expect Omar to look that far ahead.

          I just can’t see them spending that much on yet another OF when they have far bigger problems.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      I refuse to believe that. If Mo wants it, it is so. And I’m pretty sure Mo likes Damon.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      If the money’s absolutely identical, would Damon come back to NYY

      Yeah, he probably would. He has young kids and won’t want to move his family.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Perhaps.

        • pat

          NY has teh best school districts!

          /Hampton’d

    • Drew

      I don’t see the Mets as an option. His numbers would suffer a bit in Citi. Also, Beltran will be back eventually then they have Bay, F-Mart, and Francouer.

      For identical money, I think he’d come back here because of the lineup and the stadium that he’d hit in. I do think pride is a huge deal in these cases but I think the lineup and stadium overtake the pride factor.

  • WIlliam

    Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but the Mets and Boras are having a teensie, weensie little argument at the moment. I doubt they’re in contract negotiations at the moment.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but… they’re the Mets.

      • WIlliam

        You know, normally I’de have a scathing comeback to defend myself. But you know, I guess you nailed it on the head with this one. I was thinking about a normal team. But then again, the Mets are no normal team. They’re special!!!

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      I wouldn’t say that. I would just say they’re “reserving their rights” and making asses of themselves by publicly airing things that are better left private.

  • pat

    The Ninja wouldn’t let a loose end like this bring down an operation. It’s a plant.

    • WIlliam

      Agreed.

  • YankeeJosh

    From Ken Davidoff’s Twitter:

    KenDavidoff Brian Cashman says it’s “right” that he never made an offer to J. Hairston Jr., but “not right” that he is waiting for Damon’s price to drop.

    We’ll see.

    • Salty Buggah

      Damn you

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      So what is he doing? Pouncing on him now? Because unless he states uequivocally that there’s no way we get Damon no matter the price, he’s waiting for the price to drop. Or he’s made an offer. Those are his choices.

      • Drew

        I think Cash might have meant it’s not right that we didn’t make an offer to Hairy because of Damon.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Because unless he states uequivocally that there’s no way we get Damon no matter the price, he’s waiting for the price to drop.

        OR:

        We’re unequivocally not going to get Damon no matter the price, but we’re not stating that publicly because there’s no reason to and stating it publicly would gain us nothing.

        There’s that possiblility as well.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Well yeah. That too.

          Point is, he’s waiting for the price to drop unless he’s already crossed Damon off the list no matter what.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Or he’s made an offer.

  • Salty Buggah

    @KenDavidoff: Brian Cashman says it’s “not right” that he is waiting for Damon’s price to drop.

    Well, I’m sure Cash would say that. Why would admit it at this point?

    • Salty Buggah

      Well, that was the short version of the tweet retweeted by Pete Abe.

  • WIlliam

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You hare that Boras. We are NOT waiting for Damon’s price to go down at alllll. Complete ignore us as suitors so his price drops some more, oh sit, no way, JD back in pinstrioes for 1 yr, 5 mil mid february.

  • A.D.

    Eh, probably just Hariston throwing something random out there as a “reason” he didn’t return.

  • mike c

    of course they are waiting for damon’s price to come down, why would they not be?

  • Anthony Murillo

    I thought it was common sense that the Yankees were waiting for Damon’s price tag to come down.

    • Salty Buggah

      Well, kinda but not really. It’s either that or they had completely eliminated him as a choice. What this meant (before it shot down at least) that the Yanks still have some interest in Damon.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        All of this is a massive semantics game.

        Hairston and this report basically says that the Yankees have interest in Damon if his price comes down. What’s probably the actual truth is that the Yankees DON’T have interest in Damon UNLESS his price comes down.

        Do those two statements mean the same thing? Yes, and no.

  • BigBlueAL

    Ive always hated Gardner but really with Granderson now in CF and Vazquez in the rotation now there is absolutely no problem at all with Gardner starting in LF. The outfield defense will be hugely upgraded plus so is the starting rotation.

    It is no different than having Melky/Gardner in CF last season except for the fact that the Yankees have better pitching and better outfield defense. This team right now quite frankly is better than last season’s team which is a scary thought. Also we all know come trade deadline the Yankees will most likely if necessary trade for a LF.

    • pat

      Always hated Gardner? Why?

      • Reggie C.

        The team hasn’t developed a league average OF since … Bernie Williams. Melky and Gardner represent shortcomings of the organization, and so attching a yankee farmhand with the 4th OF label has now become pejorative.

      • BigBlueAL

        OK hate is too strong a word. Watching the majority of his at-bats makes me vomit, and for as fast a baserunner he is Im not sure he is that good a baserunner.

        But again I have no problems with him starting in LF at the beginning of the season.

  • Gardy’s great!

    Who cares anymore….Damon just needs to go away!

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      No he shouldn’t go away because Gardy isn’t really all that great.

      I mean he’ll be fine but he isn’t “great.”

  • MikeD

    Gardy is a nice 4th-OFer type, getting 250 ABs, providing great defense and is valuable off the bench when we need a SB. I’m hoping that’s the role he plays, which means Damon needs to come back.

  • pete luciano

    Best news I’ve heard all night. This Gardner’s a starting left fielder in NY is nonsense. Sigh Johnny, 1 yr 7 mil. Jeter, Damon, Tiexeira, ARod, Posada, Johnson, Cano, Swisher, and Granderson is a 1000 run team if healthy. We would need a righty bench player, ie Thames, Tatis, and dare I say Sheffield.

    • whozat

      Now, imagine that Granderson’s bat + D was in LF and Gardner’s was in CF.

      Does that bother you less? If so, you’re being ridiculous.

  • Joe

    FROM DAMON’S ESPN PAGE

    Player News (last updated: January 20, 2010)
    News: Damon has considered retirement, the Bergen Record reports. A friend said, “Johnny is completely in the family mode right now.”
    Spin: The strongest factor is that Damon and agent Scott Boras severely miscalculated the free agent market, turning down the Yankees’ initial two-year, $14 million offer and now find themselves looking at fewer and fewer potential landing spots as team’s payrolls dry up. The Braves and Yankees seem like the two most likely destinations, but Damon isn’t going to get nearly the money he was hoping to when he free agency began.
    Player News Archive

  • BigBlueAL

    Im still shocked at the thought that the Yankees cant have Gardner start in LF because the offense will suffer and hurt the team. These are not the 2004-2008 Yankees, these Yankees like the teams from 1998-2003 can actually pitch and catch the ball.

    Having Gardner in LF and “only” scoring 900 runs or so is more than enough for this team. Sure signing Damon would be great and Ill be happy if it happens but its also nice to finally have some financial restraints as small is it would be with “only” a 200 million payroll.

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  • Thomas

    1-Jeter
    2-Damon
    3-Tex
    4-Alex
    5-Posada
    6-Johnson
    7-Cano
    8-Swisher
    9-Granderson

    —-

    I don’t like this lineup at all. Way too left-heavy at the bottom of the lineup. Also, I think Damon’s defense is so bad, I would rather just take a chance on Gardner. I would do this:

    1 – Jeter SS (R)
    2 – Cano 2B (L)
    3 – Teixeira 1B (S)
    4 – Rodriguez 3B (R)
    5 – Granderson LF (L)
    6 – Posada C (S)
    7 – Johnson DH (L)
    8 – Swisher RF (S)
    9 – Gardner CF (L)

    Gardner had a higher UZR and UZR/150 than Granderson. Additionally, this lineup is much more balanced and less difficult to plan for in late inning matchups. Plus, Gardner at the 9 spot with DJ up to bat is nasssssssty.

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