Report: Yanks waiting for Damon’s price to come down
ByUpdate (9:45pm): Cashmoney shot this report down, yo.
8:37pm: Old buddy Jerry Hairston Jr. was on Jim Bowden’s radio show on XM 175 earlier this evening, and said that the Yankees never made him an offer for a very specific reason. “Brian Cashman‘s going to get mad at me,” said Jerry, “but Yanks didn’t make me offer because he’s waiting on (Johnny) Damon’s price to come down.” Yes Jerry, you’re going to make Cash angry, and you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.
It’s still possible that Joel Sherman’s report of the team only having $2M left to spend on left field is accurate, and they’re just hoping for Damon to accept an 85% paycut, or it could have been a negotiating ploy. I can hear the conversation now: “Well, we’ve only got $2M left to spend, but if you want $5M, then fine, you win. Our hands … are tied.”
99 Comments»
RAB Info
The Founders
Mike Axisa, Ben Kabak, Joe Pawlikowski
Editor-In-Chief
Mike Axisa Archives | Email
Managing Editors
Ben Kabak Archives | E-mail
Joe Pawlikowski Archives | E-mail
Contributing Editors
Larry Koestler (Archives)
Moshe Mandel (Archives)
Eric Schultz (Archives)
Weekend Writers
Hannah Ehrlich (Archives)
Matthew Warden (Archives)
Special Contributor
J.R. O'Grady (Archives)
Technical Consultant
Jay Gordon
Subscribe to RAB by RSS
Follow @RiverAveBlues
Search RAB
Yankees News from YESNetwork.com
- Cashman leaning toward putting Teixeira on DL
- Mattingly excited for return to the Bronx
- Sabathia steps up for Yankees in West Coast finale against Angels
- No new tears in right wrist for Mark Teixeira
- Angels send Yankees to fifth straight loss, 6-2
- Mark Teixeira leaves Saturday's game in fourth inning
- Wilson pitches Angels to 5-2 win over Yankees
- Cesar Cabral outrighted to Double-A Trenton
- Yankees sign six draft picks on Friday
- Yankees place Kevin Youkilis on 15-day DL, call up Thomas Neal and Chris Bootcheck from Triple-A
Banner Design By
The Tyler Austin Watch
uh ohhhhhh.
hahahahaha jerry just blew up ca$hmoney’s spot, yo.
To all the ladies in the place with style and grace
Allow me to lace these lyrical douches, in your bushes
Who rock grooves and make moves with all the mommies
The back of the club, sippin Moet, is where you’ll find me
The back of the club, mackin hoes, my crew’s behind me
Mad question askin, blunt passin, music blastin
But I just can’t quit
Cause one of these honies Biggie gots ta creep with
Sleep with, keep the ep a secret, why not
Why blow up my spot cause we both got hot
Now check it, I got more Mack than Craig and in the bed
Believe me sweety I got enough to feed the needy
No need to be greedy I got mad friends with Benz’s
C-notes by the layers, true f$%&#in players
Jump in the Rover and come over, tell your friends
Jump in the GS3, I got the chronic by the tree, cause
CC’s warmup song. Good song.
Although it is very nice to hear, I would have rather this not be said and Boras never hear about. Oh well… hope it works out.
I’m actually starting to feel bad for JD. It seems like he has 0 options right now.
At this point I think he should just come back at 4-5 mil, hit in front of Teix and Al in YSIII and hope there is a better market next year.
He’s like the fat kid at the dance during ladies choice.
I’ve been a believer that JD will return the entire off-season… I’m not changing course now. He makes too much sense for the Yanks, and not enough for any other team. It’s the best fit.
Yeah… I don’t see how having him back at 4 or 5 mil could be a bad thing. Have to hope that he improves somewhat on his defense from last year. And then you have Gardner as a defensive sub and can even spell Damon for a chunk of starts if need be.
That would be such a sick lineup if he came back.
It’s almost to good to be true, that’s the only reason I don’t see it actually happening.
*too good
You do NOT on any circumstance give up information about the ninja, Cashmoney. Jerry may be meeting with fate soon…
Jerry may be meeting with fate soon…
if by fate you mean some sort of death, being on the padres after winning a world series is bad enough.
In fact, Cash foresaw this talking out of turn, and let Hairston go to SD precisely as punishment. I’ve come to trust him.
1 year $6.5 million with incentives. Ca$h Money Trillionaire will make like Picard, and make it so.
Jean Afterman: Number One
But the sexual tension is like with Doctor Crusher.
I laughed.
Man I really hope this is accurate.
If he comes back this lineup looks really really good. And if he’s really that cheap then it wouldn’t hurt to start Gardner every so often to get some AB’s and some time to make LF not completely suck defensively.
What do you guys think it’ll look like?
If he comes back this lineup looks really really good.
I agree.
However, if he doesn’t come back, this lineup also looks really, really good.
/obligatory’d
Of course. Damon coming back would be icing on the cake. But it’s some damn good icing.
Frankly, Damon coming back would be the icing on the ICING.
This cake: already iced.
/aroused’d
Like the flowers and lettering? What would the lettering say?
P-I-M-P
I believe the lettering says “28, Bitches”.
It’s Silian Rail. And the fondant is in Bone.
Casheezy is not going to be mad. This is all part of the plan. He pulled back for a while to remind Damon of what he’s missing, now he’s sending out a little love message in the LF’s direction so JD knows where he can look to for a good time. Cash knows The Rules.
(That being said, oh how I hope this is true. At a good price it would be the best of all possible options.)
Non of Cashman’s people ever say anything he doesn’t want them to say. He’s like Ben Linus (in his prime).
Cashman is like some sort of all seing god/nija. No way this was an accident. Jerry Hairston is just another pawn in cashman’s master plan to get Pujos as DH. Maur as catcher. Feilder and Gonzalez will magically be able to play the corner OF positions as well.
/Phil Roger’d
Jerry Hairston Jr walks out of the XM radio station a black car drives up and two guys grab Hairston throwing him in trunk. We never hear from Hairston again.
Never cross the family.
Jerry Hairston is gonna get Moe Greene’d.
No, he’s going to get “Whale’s Vagina’d”.
All joking aside Damon in that line-up and Jay-Z can start writing another song.
1-Jeter
2-Damon
3-Tex
4-Alex
5-Posada
6-Johnson
7-Cano
8-Swisher
9-Granderson
Yeah, pretty much.
Looking at that lineup made me JMP.
Remove Johnny “its about the money” Damon, insert Nick Johnson and put Jamie Hoffman in the 8 spot.
Remove CC “it’s about the money” Sabathia from the rotation then. For that matter, ship off the entire team and fill it with young hopefuls who’d give anything for a shot to compete and see how well they’d do.
(Actually, that’d be a pretty good reality show…)
ship off the entire team and fill it with young hopefuls who’d give anything for a shot to compete and see how well they’d do. (Actually, that’d be a pretty good reality show…)
I’ve seen that show. It’s called “The Pittsburgh Pirates”.
IETC
I was making more like altering the idea. Just pick like 20 random players who for one reason or another were never drafted, but who are really good, and add them as an extra minor league team or something. Let them share a stadium with Lehigh Valley. MVP of the team makes the Yankees AAA team and gets to play Spring Training Ball with the Yanks in the hopes of making a roster spot.
That would be the shit. Make it happen Cash.
Take a page out of Jerry Jones book? Nah, that seems like something the Rays would do, not the Yankees.
True.
Then let the Rays do it. Still be a cool show.
Although, the Yankees do have some sort ofdeal with the Cowboys. Not sure how it works, but there’s a connection.
FACT: The Steinbrenners and Jerry Jones have collaborated on a business venture before.
http://www.legendshm.com/
Brilliant.
I was about to edit your lineup and move Nick the Stick down to #9 and bump Cano-Swish-Granderson all up a notch. Get the whole “extra leadoff hitter” thing with Nick and his supreme OBP skills at #9.
But then I realized why you left Nick and his lack of power at #6 (maybe): You don’t want his slow wheels right in front of the Cap’n, what with his proclivity for the ol’ nasty DP action.
Right?
No, I really didn’t put that much thought into it. I originally had Cano 6th and just thought it was too high, at least for now.
This is the year, 110+ RBI.
Cashmoney will now trade for Scott Hairston in the middle of the season, get him a ring, resign him and get him another ring, and finally let him go back to SD to show off to Jerry (assuming he stays there, which is not that likely but whatever)
I don’t buy that Cash would say that to Jerry’s agent and I’m sure he would never say that to him. I just find it hard to believe.
Yeah, this is very much hearsay unless Jerry was told this directly by Cashman, which is hard to believe. It’s more likely his agent told him this, and he’s repeating it.
We’d really need to hear the interview to sort this out. Any XM subscribers?
So Cashman, GM of NY Yankees, is going to tell an utility player that he is waiting on another player’s price to come down ?
Anyone who actually believes what is said on fan/talk radio are people that purchase land and houses sight-unseen.
Good luck with that.
I don’t believe that anyone thinks Cash said “Jerry, we’re waiting for Damon.” I think J-Hair and his agent connected the dots and assumes that that was why he didn’t get an offer.
Devil’sLesser Demon’s Advocate:Say our offer to Damon is a 1/5M. Wouldn’t the Mets, now that they’ve been spurned by Bengie Molina and thus, have a bit more budgeted money to spend and a bit more offensive need to fill, then jump in with at least a matching 1/5m (or even a superior 1/5.5M?)
And, say Damon has matching 1/5M offers from us and from the Mets (or some other moderately desirable team, like, say, Seattle or Atlanta or San Fransisco or Florida or something.) If the money’s absolutely identical, would Damon come back to NYY or would he go elsewhere for pride alone?
We’re getting closer, but I’m still not counting any chickens. The more Damon lowers his price for us, the more he also lowers it for everyone else.
Where’s he going to play? They have what, $40M tied up in their starting OF next year alone?
He’s going to play LF, Bay’s going to play RF, and Frenchy’s going to center.
Are you bullish on Carlos Beltran making a speedy recovery and making it back to the field anytime soon? If so, why?
No, but I don’t expect Omar to look that far ahead.
I just can’t see them spending that much on yet another OF when they have far bigger problems.
I agree. My retort:
They’re the Mets.
http://www.theonion.com/conten....._play_ends
I refuse to believe that. If Mo wants it, it is so. And I’m pretty sure Mo likes Damon.
If the money’s absolutely identical, would Damon come back to NYY
Yeah, he probably would. He has young kids and won’t want to move his family.
Perhaps.
NY has teh best school districts!
/Hampton’d
I don’t see the Mets as an option. His numbers would suffer a bit in Citi. Also, Beltran will be back eventually then they have Bay, F-Mart, and Francouer.
For identical money, I think he’d come back here because of the lineup and the stadium that he’d hit in. I do think pride is a huge deal in these cases but I think the lineup and stadium overtake the pride factor.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but the Mets and Boras are having a teensie, weensie little argument at the moment. I doubt they’re in contract negotiations at the moment.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but… they’re the Mets.
You know, normally I’de have a scathing comeback to defend myself. But you know, I guess you nailed it on the head with this one. I was thinking about a normal team. But then again, the Mets are no normal team. They’re special!!!
I wouldn’t say that. I would just say they’re “reserving their rights” and making asses of themselves by publicly airing things that are better left private.
The Ninja wouldn’t let a loose end like this bring down an operation. It’s a plant.
Agreed.
From Ken Davidoff’s Twitter:
KenDavidoff Brian Cashman says it’s “right” that he never made an offer to J. Hairston Jr., but “not right” that he is waiting for Damon’s price to drop.
We’ll see.
Damn you
So what is he doing? Pouncing on him now? Because unless he states uequivocally that there’s no way we get Damon no matter the price, he’s waiting for the price to drop. Or he’s made an offer. Those are his choices.
I think Cash might have meant it’s not right that we didn’t make an offer to Hairy because of Damon.
Because unless he states uequivocally that there’s no way we get Damon no matter the price, he’s waiting for the price to drop.
OR:
We’re unequivocally not going to get Damon no matter the price, but we’re not stating that publicly because there’s no reason to and stating it publicly would gain us nothing.
There’s that possiblility as well.
Well yeah. That too.
Point is, he’s waiting for the price to drop unless he’s already crossed Damon off the list no matter what.
Or he’s made an offer.
@KenDavidoff: Brian Cashman says it’s “not right” that he is waiting for Damon’s price to drop.
Well, I’m sure Cash would say that. Why would admit it at this point?
Well, that was the short version of the tweet retweeted by Pete Abe.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You hare that Boras. We are NOT waiting for Damon’s price to go down at alllll. Complete ignore us as suitors so his price drops some more, oh sit, no way, JD back in pinstrioes for 1 yr, 5 mil mid february.
Eh, probably just Hariston throwing something random out there as a “reason” he didn’t return.
of course they are waiting for damon’s price to come down, why would they not be?
I thought it was common sense that the Yankees were waiting for Damon’s price tag to come down.
Well, kinda but not really. It’s either that or they had completely eliminated him as a choice. What this meant (before it shot down at least) that the Yanks still have some interest in Damon.
All of this is a massive semantics game.
Hairston and this report basically says that the Yankees have interest in Damon if his price comes down. What’s probably the actual truth is that the Yankees DON’T have interest in Damon UNLESS his price comes down.
Do those two statements mean the same thing? Yes, and no.
Ive always hated Gardner but really with Granderson now in CF and Vazquez in the rotation now there is absolutely no problem at all with Gardner starting in LF. The outfield defense will be hugely upgraded plus so is the starting rotation.
It is no different than having Melky/Gardner in CF last season except for the fact that the Yankees have better pitching and better outfield defense. This team right now quite frankly is better than last season’s team which is a scary thought. Also we all know come trade deadline the Yankees will most likely if necessary trade for a LF.
Always hated Gardner? Why?
The team hasn’t developed a league average OF since … Bernie Williams. Melky and Gardner represent shortcomings of the organization, and so attching a yankee farmhand with the 4th OF label has now become pejorative.
OK hate is too strong a word. Watching the majority of his at-bats makes me vomit, and for as fast a baserunner he is Im not sure he is that good a baserunner.
But again I have no problems with him starting in LF at the beginning of the season.
Who cares anymore….Damon just needs to go away!
No he shouldn’t go away because Gardy isn’t really all that great.
I mean he’ll be fine but he isn’t “great.”
Gardy is a nice 4th-OFer type, getting 250 ABs, providing great defense and is valuable off the bench when we need a SB. I’m hoping that’s the role he plays, which means Damon needs to come back.
Best news I’ve heard all night. This Gardner’s a starting left fielder in NY is nonsense. Sigh Johnny, 1 yr 7 mil. Jeter, Damon, Tiexeira, ARod, Posada, Johnson, Cano, Swisher, and Granderson is a 1000 run team if healthy. We would need a righty bench player, ie Thames, Tatis, and dare I say Sheffield.
Now, imagine that Granderson’s bat + D was in LF and Gardner’s was in CF.
Does that bother you less? If so, you’re being ridiculous.
FROM DAMON’S ESPN PAGE
Player News (last updated: January 20, 2010)
News: Damon has considered retirement, the Bergen Record reports. A friend said, “Johnny is completely in the family mode right now.”
Spin: The strongest factor is that Damon and agent Scott Boras severely miscalculated the free agent market, turning down the Yankees’ initial two-year, $14 million offer and now find themselves looking at fewer and fewer potential landing spots as team’s payrolls dry up. The Braves and Yankees seem like the two most likely destinations, but Damon isn’t going to get nearly the money he was hoping to when he free agency began.
Player News Archive
Im still shocked at the thought that the Yankees cant have Gardner start in LF because the offense will suffer and hurt the team. These are not the 2004-2008 Yankees, these Yankees like the teams from 1998-2003 can actually pitch and catch the ball.
Having Gardner in LF and “only” scoring 900 runs or so is more than enough for this team. Sure signing Damon would be great and Ill be happy if it happens but its also nice to finally have some financial restraints as small is it would be with “only” a 200 million payroll.
[...] Confidence Poll « Report: Yanks waiting for Damon’s price to come down Jan [...]
1-Jeter
2-Damon
3-Tex
4-Alex
5-Posada
6-Johnson
7-Cano
8-Swisher
9-Granderson
—-
I don’t like this lineup at all. Way too left-heavy at the bottom of the lineup. Also, I think Damon’s defense is so bad, I would rather just take a chance on Gardner. I would do this:
1 – Jeter SS (R)
2 – Cano 2B (L)
3 – Teixeira 1B (S)
4 – Rodriguez 3B (R)
5 – Granderson LF (L)
6 – Posada C (S)
7 – Johnson DH (L)
8 – Swisher RF (S)
9 – Gardner CF (L)
Gardner had a higher UZR and UZR/150 than Granderson. Additionally, this lineup is much more balanced and less difficult to plan for in late inning matchups. Plus, Gardner at the 9 spot with DJ up to bat is nasssssssty.
[...] RAB [...]
[...] Hairston, Jr. speculated that the Yanks weren’t moving on anyone else yet because they were waiting for Damon’s price to come down. While Cashman denied saying so directly, Hairston’s words rang if not true at least [...]