Looking at minor league defense


Sean at Pending Pinstripes is examining the Total Zone defensive ratings of the Yankees’ minor league teams from last season, one level at a time. Yesterday he covered the Rookie level GCL Yanks, and today he got to Short Season Staten Island. We’re dealing with small sample sizes at these levels, though it’s interesting to see how well (and how poorly) some guys performed in the field. Despite his 29 errors, Carmen Angelini actually graded out really well in Total Zone. Whether that suggests there’s a flaw with TZ or with the completely subjective nature of errors is a discussion for another day.

Make sure you check out Sean’s first two entries, and check back in for the rest of the series.

Categories : Asides, Defense, Minors


  1. JMK aka The Overshare's Garden Apartment Complex says:

    They do a great job at PP. It is pretty strange seeing Angelini put up decent defensive numbers (at least according to TZ). I wonder if he put up similar numbers last year, or if there’s some correlation. If the numbers are far apart, it suggests it may have been a fluke (the number of errors would seem to imply this as well). 2008 saw Angelini with 273 outs out of 421 chances. He averaged out to a 0, or dead even.

    2009 saw him with a +12 at Staten Island with 143 POs in 200 chances. Charleston didn’t treat him as well: 66/111 equaling a -5. In short, even with a SSS, there’s no specific trend here. The errors suggest there’s something else wrong, even if his range is good. Throwing errors maybe? Simple transfer problems?

    Angelini is a strange case in general. According to Mike’s scouting report, he had good range to both sides, soft hands, and a strong arm. He had good speed and was “fundamentally sound.” In other words, he was a legit shortstop.

    Offensively, he supposedly was good at hitting breaking balls and had developing power. His main flaw might have been having his swing get a little long and being prone to the k. I don’t need to get into it, but the numbers don’t suggest those being the only flaws.

    I suppose the question is…what went wrong?

  2. Carmen Angelini doesn’t turn 22 until about the last week of this coming season.

    Sure, he should have already mastered Lo-A by now, but sometimes we forget how young some of these guys are. He still has a lot of time to put it together, if we keep the patience in him.

    • JMK aka The Overshare's Garden Apartment Complex says:

      No doubt. I have a lot of patience. Really, I do. But .218/.282/.283/.565 with a crazy-high amount of throwing errors doesn’t generally lend itself to breakout seasons.

      That’s Rich Aurilian-type offense with Knoblach-ian defense.

      Andy thinks he’ll bust out majorly this year. I can only hope so. Having a legit SS prospect in this system would be absolutely huge.

  3. JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

    Done. I need to get out of the “basement” at some point anyway. You’re still going strong with Arch Torq? You could blend something like tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Bangwagon Movie Quote. Perhaps something with a Steve B. ego crusher?

  4. Sean P says:

    Hey Mike, thanks for the shout out man, I appreciate it.

    Also thanks for everyone else who had nice things to say about PP. We really appreciate all your continued support.


  5. Christos says:

    I got the Pending Pinstripes iPod app

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