Open Thread: An Ace In Action

Report: Damon heads to Detroit
Happy Birthday to us!

CC Sabathia threw his first bullpen of the 2010 campaign today, tossing 35 pitches off one of the Tampa mounds to Jorge Posada. After a career high 266.1 IP last season, Sabathia took a grand total of three weeks off this winter before he started throwing again. “I can’t take too much time off or my arm just gets in a funk,” said CC, who was playing catch three times a week by early December. Dude is just a horse, but it good to see the Yanks scale back a bit and take it easy on the big guy.

Meanwhile, Joe Girardi indicated that Sabathia is likely to be followed in the rotation by A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte, and Javy Vazquez, in that order. Obviously, this is completely unsurprising. Looking at the schedule, I’m guessing the rotation will shake out like this during the first few weeks of the season:

April 4th: Sabathia
April 5th: OFF
April 6th: Burnett
April 7th: Pettitte
April 8th: OFF
April 9th: Vazquez
April 10th: Sabathia
April 11th: Burnett
April 12th: OFF
April 13th: Pettitte (home opener)
April 14th: Vazquez
April 15th: Sabathia
April 16th: Burnett
April 17th: 5th Starter

The Yanks can skip the fifth starter’s spot the first two times through the rotation without starting anyone on short rest of anything like that. Pettitte would get the nod for the home opener, something he’s more than qualified for. The first two weeks of the season were laid out pretty neatly this year, thankfully.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the evening. The Knicks are playing, plus there’s the Olympics, so have at it.

Photo Credit: Bryan Hoch, MLB.com

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  • bexarama

    Am I the only one that isn’t freaking out about how ridiculous David Wright saying the Mets were “the team to beat” in the NL East was? Yeah, I know, they’re the Mets. But the 2006 Mets won 96 games and beat second place in the division by 12 games, and Jimmy Rollins claimed Philly was the team to beat in 2007 spring training. I don’t expect the Mets to win the division, but I didn’t think Philly would win it in 2007 either (though Philly going into 2007 was IMO in a better place than the Mets going into 2010).

    Johan Santana saying he was the best pitcher in the NL East seemed pretty much like a shot at Halladay though, unless he was specifically asked “Who do you think is the best pitcher in the NL East?” in which case it’s understandable because, I mean, what was the guy supposed to say, “It’s Halladay, I’m not that great”?

    • RichYF

      link?

      • bexarama

        http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....0kRUODqTKI

        He didn’t even say “we’re the team to beat,” he said, like, “I expect to compete for the NL East.” Which, I mean, they have problems. LOTS of them. But they’ve got Wright, Reyes, Bay, and Santana, plus Beltran… uh, eventually. These are good players. They won 89 games in 2008 with a pretty similar roster.

        Johan:
        http://www.sportingnews.com/ml.....-nl-east-s
        So he was specifically asked by the media. In that case, not really a shot at Halladay.

        • DP

          The 2008 Mets also had Schneider who is an improvement on whatever crap they are throwing out at catcher this year, Delgado who was a VAST improvement over Murphy/Tatis, Church instead of Francoeur, full season of Beltran, and a weaker NL East.

          • bexarama

            Good point, though Schneider pretty much sucked/sucks. Not that Santos/whoever else they’re gonna use (Barajas??) doesn’t.

            • DP

              Schneider does indeed suck, however, I still view him as an improvement over Rod Barajas.

              • bexarama

                I may or may not have yelled “WHO THE HELL IS ROD BARAJAS” when Moose gave up a HR to him, and his OPS+ that year of a totally awesome 15, in the 2001 WS.

            • Accent Shallow

              So because we have Jesus, the Mets said “Give us Barajas”?

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

      if im a met i realize the only way to sell tickets is to stoke the fire with philly. cause every other game won’t be pretty, or close to sold out

      • dkidd

        they just gave up the 41st overall pick to sign rod barajas

        more good news for rebuilding toronto

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          They didn’t give up anything, it was a sandwich rounder.

          • dkidd

            oops

            thanks for clarifying

            /premature minaya bashing’d

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

          they didnt give up anything. type b free agents give the team that loses them a supplemental pick that is created. the signing team loses nothing

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Update: Waiting still sucks.

    Off topic, apparently the fact that I do crosswords in pen is badass.

    • bexarama

      that is badass

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

      waiting for……season opener?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        To find out if I get this job that I really, really want.

        Imagine how badly you’d like to go to the deciding game of a World Series in which the Yankees are playing, or how badly you’d love to have dinner or a beer with Mo, just the two of you.

        I want this job more.

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

          fair enough. good luck

    • RichYF

      On a scale from 1-10, you’re probably the biggest badass that’s ever posted on this board.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        …No way.

        I refuse to believe it. Unless you tell me why. Or unless your referring to my blatant self promotion which is, in fact, pretty bad ass.

    • http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

      I use pen. But I do the ones in the newspaper and pencil on newspaper is icky.

      …I also do the AMNY ones which are ridiculously easy haha.

    • pete

      all i heard was “pen” and “badass”.

      fuckin bjobber.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

        icwudt

  • Kevin G.

    Isn’t today RAB’s birthday?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Holy shitballs, it is. Three years and counting.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Holy, doesn’t this merry it’s own post?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          I’ll do one later tonight.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

        this post has yada yada yada something about socialism etc etc

      • Salty Buggah

        Hah, did you forget?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Completely.

          • Salty Buggah

            Did Joe or Ben remember? Or did you all forget?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              I’m pretty sure we all did.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                Keep this one in your back pocket if any of you 3 are married and forget an anniversary.

                “Honey, I’m sorry. Hey, you know that website I spend all day working on? I forgot it’s 3 year anniversary as well. “

                • Accent Shallow

                  “No, baby, the website didn’t make me sleep on the couch. Come on!”

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Hey, I didn’t say it would work. It’s a Hail Mary pass.

    • dkidd

      rab shares a birthday with kurt cobain!

      …and french stewart

      • bexarama

        and Livan Hernandez!

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I can’t wait to see Joe’s farewell letter.

  • Bxbomber

    CC is a horse, but even the top thoroughbreds need some rest. He is the wrong side of 30 and we do have LOTS of money invested in him the next few years. It’s good we’re taking it easy on him a little.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      CC’s 29.

      • DP

        Well 40 is the new 30, so CC’s actually like a 19 year old. Wrong side of 30 clearly.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Right, 29 is the wrong side of 30.

        It’s much better to be 33 or 35 and have all of the grizzled-veteran vibe going on.

  • Salty Buggah

    Heh, check out the Melkman’s beard:

    http://tweetphoto.com/11969594

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      ha.. Melk stayin fresh.

    • pat

      Not gonna lie, seein the melkman in another uni makes me kinda sad.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

        agreed. but if he grows a grizzly beard thatd be awesome…its a start

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        If by sad, you mean “happy he won’t be around to perpetuate the hacky mcheadfirstslide” thing he does from May-September, I’m right there with you.

        Just remember:
        April 2009: .327/.400/.571
        May-End of Regular Season: .268/.328/.399

        Average defense + below-average offense = replaceable.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m pretty sure he grew it hide his double chin.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

        ietcvm

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Mike you watching any of this college baseball on MLB Network? Anyone I should look out for?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Northridge and Southern? No.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        UCLA plays later.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Too bad Gerrit Cole pitched last night. Rob Rasmussen might start for them tonight, he’s a top three rounds guy this year.

    • http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

      I wish I had MLBN. I would love to watch some college baseball.

      I just discovered that Miami is ranked #12 and we are the 4th best team in the ACC. ACC has 6 teams in the top 15… that’s insane.

  • Ed

    Now that I see how the schedule plays out the first few times through the rotation, I could actually see both Hughes & Joba start the season in AAA. Give them each 2 starts in AAA to let them stay in shape. Hopefully they’ll dominate and get a nice confidence boost. Maybe even use it to extended the 5th starter battle a little bit longer by making them fight in AAA over who gets the promotion.

    Hughes has an option that they basically can’t use after April, and Joba has multiple that can’t get used after August, so there’s no reason to be conservative in that aspect.

    It also lets the team get a little more time to sort out the bullpen if desired, as they get two more spots for the first two weeks. I forget which season it was, but within the past few years I remember the team doing something like that. I think they put someone on the DL in spring training then activated him a week into the season in time for his first start.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    I feel like curling’s about to go mainstream, or something…

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Wow, Scotty B got Johnny D 8 mil with no deferred money. Not bad.

  • JM

    My 2010 prediction: Mariano Rivera gets first career homerun off of…
    Francisco Rodriguez.

    • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

      Fernando Martinez will try to make a jumping over-the-wall catch but will… drop the ball!

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        Oh, and the bases will be loaded, of course. In fact, the umpire will award Mariano a fifth RBI for the man standing on deck.

    • bexarama

      Jonathan Papelbon
      (Why Papelbon would be pitching in a situation where Mo would be batting, I don’t know. But MAKE IT HAPPEN.)

      • pete

        Mariano batted in detroit a couple years ago, if i remember. his first career regular season AB. 3 pitch strikeout. 2nd AB? line drive out to center. 3rd? walk, RBI. Also got his 500th save that game.

        • bexarama

          His first career regular season at-bat was in Philly (so interleague) but it was indeed a three-pitch strikeout. Ryan Howard hit something like 15 home runs off of Moose in this game but the Yankees still won.

          http://www.baseball-reference......6200.shtml
          (okay, two HRs.)

          • pete

            huh. well he definitely have an at-bat in detroit a few years ago. I think farnsworth gave up a walkoff hit in the 11th or something and Pudge Rodriguez scored the winning run. Could be a diff. game though. But Mariano has had an atbat in detroit. that much i know

            • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

              nope. he didnt. he had 1 ab previous to this yr when he got the one in atl and ny.

              and it was philly.

              • pete

                dammit. why do i have this memory? i’m going to chalk this up in the “pro stats” column.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    MASN: Brian Cashman: The Orioles are a sleeping giant

    http://masnsports.com/2010/02/.....s-are.html

    Sleeping Giant may be a bit much (unless he means San Francisco) but I think it’s fair to say there are no easy games in the AL East this year. The O’s will score, and even Toronto will pitch if they get healthy.

    • Mike Pop

      Yup. In 2011, the Orioles will be a very scary team I think.

    • Reggie C.

      No doubt. I think it’d be silly to not recognize the young talent emerging: Markakis, Jones, Tillman, Matusz, Reimold, and Weiters.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Markakis, Jones and Weiters could really be bad-ass heart of the order in a few years. Just as Alex and Jetes are getting past their prime, those guys will be entering theirs.

      • DP

        Not to mention Bell, Erbe, Snyder, Arrieta, and Britton on the way…

  • Reggie C.

    T-MAC!

    Still some life in those old legs yet!

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

      he is getting me to watch a knicks game on tv for the first time in probably 4+ yrs

      • Mike Pop

        I hope he plays well enough to warrant a one-two year deal offer from the Knicks for next year. Not a large contract but a good paying one.

        Hopefully, him never being out of the first round will make him want to join the 1 or 2 great free agents the Knicks are bound to bring to NY in the next couple years.

        (this coming from a Nets fan)

  • http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

    Finally got my Yankee tattoo today.

    http://i46.tinypic.com/sx2kpu.jpg

    I am in love.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      If you could find a Yankee fan with a foot fetish, he would pretty much be your slave.

      • Mike Pop

        Too easy.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Jorge Posada — .263/.355/.445 VORP: 16.7 WARP: 1.6
    The key stat here for Posada is the way PECOTA pegs him as a prime candidate for a collapse. He’ll turn 39 in mid-August, and his collapse rate is an alarming 37 percent. Comfortingly, though, his attrition rate is nearly the same. We’ll probably see something of a decline from Posada, but hopefully, it’s closer to an attrition dip than an all-out collapse. The Yanks are penciling him in for 120 games behind the plate. That might be optimistic, but BP is high on Francisco Cervelli’s defense as a caddy to Jorge.

    Ben got me thinking today. If Jorge’s still OPSing .800 at age 39, you’re going to live with his defensive deficiencies. But if his bat drops off significantly from there, and let’s say Cervelli’s OPS is around .700, you get to a point somewhere in which you value Cervelli’s glove more than Jorge’s bat. I’m just not sure where it is.

    If they were BOTH at .700, then it’s an easy call. Cervelli catches every day unless a pitcher (Andy) prefers Posada. But let’s say Jorge’s around .730-.750, it’s July and it’s obvious to everyone that it’s not just a slump. Do you pull the trigger? I guess the real question is how much value to you put on a Catcher’s glove?

    • Jose

      I wish there were more metrics for catchers.

      To answer your question, if both Posada and Cervelli had the same OPS, they would still start Posada.

      • whozat

        They would. The question is what SHOULD they do.

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

          Don’t be so sure. The manager has already sat Jorge in the playoffs and was a defense-first catcher himself.

        • Jose

          Would I bench one of the greatest Yankee catchers for a kid whose benefit based solely on defense is immeasurable using advanced stats? Absolutely not.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            The Yanks aren’t nostalgic. If the were, Matsui and Damon would be on the team.

            • Jose

              That is completely different from this situation. Posada is making a metric shit ton compared to that of Cervelli. The Yankees have financial reasons alone not to let him ride the bench.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                Sorry, but it’s not like he’s a LF you can stick out there and hope nobody hits the ball his way. Were talking about a Catcher, a position involved in every defensive play. You can’t live with a bad defensive catcher who can’t hit, either. The pitchers wouldn’t stand for it. Jorge himself said just yesterday “I want to play everyday as long as I’m not hurting the team.” If he can’t block AJ’s curveball in the dirt, he’s hurting the team. No matter how much he makes.

              • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                Why? He makes the same amount of money whether he plays or not. In the highly unlikely event that Cervelli and Posada are putting up similar offensive numbers, Cervelli’s defense might earn him the job. He’s miles better as a catcher than Jorge as this point in their respective careers.

                It’s an interesting question, but I highly doubt it will happen.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Yeah, it’s the toughest position to quantify.

        But CC raved about Cervelli, and the Yanks will cater to him with the money/years they have committed. AJ’s issues are well known, Andy loves Jorge and doesn’t have the type of blazing stuff that would give him problems. With Joba, they will probably go with whichever combo works better. Vasquez, I have no idea.

        Bats being equal or close, I think Cervelli catches a lot.

        • Jose

          I think the organization sees him as nothing more than a backup. I just can’t imagine Cervelli catching a lot unless Posada really falls off the offensive cliff.

          • whozat

            Yes. And if his bat was equal to Cervelli’s, which is one of the assumptions that’s being made here, that would mean he had fallen off the offensive cliff.

            • Jose

              Let me rephrase. My consideration of Posada really falling off a cliff is him having a lower OPS than Cervelli. If that happens, only then do I believe they would consider benching Posada.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Yeah, that’s the question. Jorge with a .725 OPS in July would represent a huge drop off from his career .859 OPS.

    • Mike Pop

      Nostra, didn’t you predict a Jorge Posada decline a few months ago at TYU?

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Sort of, I asked the question if he’s poised to decline based on his walk and SO rates, both of which went in the wrong direction last year. It’s not like I was the only one, many of the Sabermetric sites asked similar questions. I think Bill James had him as one of his top regression candidates for 2010.

  • Mike Pop

    Now they got Justin Tuck trying to recruit LeBron.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    Hey Mike. As a rabid Yankee/Longhorn fan, please give me some hope that Workman could fall to 32 in the draft. Short of an injury what would need to happen.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      As of right now, it won’t happen. He’s a top 20 pick. Taylor Jungmann will probably go top five next year.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Eric

        There looks to be an absurd college pitching class in 2011. Jungmann, Gray, Meyer, Purke (DES), and of course, he who must not be named.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Danny Hultsen too. Then of course there’s Anthony Rendon on the offensive side.

          • Johan Iz My Brohan

            Gerrit Cole too, right?

            • pat

              aka he who shall not be named

            • whozat

              “and of course, he who must not be named.”

              Indeed.

  • Ivan

    I would luv to have Westbrook on the Knicks.

  • Steven

    That Thunder/sonics vs. knicks game was really really good. I haven’t seen basketball like that in a while in the nba

    • Mike Pop

      Kevin Durant, dude is only 21 and is one of the best in the game. Can’t wait to see what he has in store for his career.

  • bexarama

    Have there been really annoying ads on Baseball Reference for the past week or so for anyone else?