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CC Sabathia, Bullpen Coach Mike Harkey and Pitching Coach Dave Eiland watch Phil Hughes throw today in Tampa. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

That’s a great looking photo up there. The pitchers and catchers officially arrived at Steinbrenner Field in Tampa this morning and got right to work. We love to celebrate the return of baseball, even if it’s just for a few hours of bullpen work each day, and over the next few weeks, the team will start to take the field in preparation for Opening Day.

Meanwhile, for number-watchers, today was a big day. The Yanks finally filled in the holes on their active roster, and all of the new guys and some of the old ones have new numbers. With so many non-roster invitees in camp and so many numbers retired, the Yankees have guys wearing everything from 2 to Colin Curtis‘ 98 in camp.

The most symbolic change this year will be the number on Joe Girardi‘s back. For the past two seasons, the Yanks’ skipper has donned 27 in his quest for the franchise’s 27th World Championship. With the trophy secured, Girardi will wear number 28 this year in the hunt for his next trophy. Girardi will be set until the Yanks win their 31st World Series title. Elston Howard’s number won’t come off the wall.

Meanwhile, some of the late-winter additions not noteworthy enough to warrant a press conference as Number 14 Curtis Granderson did picked out their numbers. Randy Winn has 22 on his back. Most recently, Xavier Nady and LaTroy Hawkins had donned Roger Clemens’ old number. Looking to buck with the past, Javier Vazquez has 31, last donned by Michael Dunn. Those 33 Vazquez shirts from 2004 won’t come in handy. Another once and current Yankee, Nick Johnson, has opted for 27. He last wore 36 but didn’t want to fight Edwar Ramirez for it. Kei Igawa, the not-so-proud former owner of 27, will switch to 17, says Bryan Hoch.

On the minor league front, two dueling outfielders have numbers that should tell you about their chances of making the team. Marcus Thames gets the well-travelled 38 — five former Yankees over the last two years, including Brian Bruney and Ian Kennedy in 2009, have worn it — while Jamie Hoffmann has been saddled with 73. A number that high is usually the Spring Training equivalent of a red shirt on the old Star Trek TV show.

Also of note are a bunch of the Yanks’ top prospects. Jesus Montero and Austin Romine will wear 83 and 84 respectively. Zach McAllister and Jeremy Bleich have 80 and 82. The youngest guy in camp, Kyle Higashioka, born in April 1990, will wear 92.

Finally, we have the numbers that are obviously missing from the uniforms this spring. The Yankees have again held back Joe Torre’s 6, Paul O’Neill’s 21 and Bernie Williams‘ 51. Johnny Damon‘s 18 remains on the shelf and so does Hideki Matsui‘s 55. Of those numbers, the 6 and the 51 should probably be retired while the other three can be returned to circulation.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the evening. Some NBA trades involving the Knicks are going down. NBC’s botched Olympics coverage will be on. In local action, the Nets and Knicks both play at home at 7:30. Be good to each other.

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  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Dude. Suits are way too effing expensive. Seriously.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      http://www.kgstores.com

      You’re welcome.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      New York City is the capital of cheap clothing. Where did you end up going suit shopping?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Nitpick: New York City is the local capital of cheap clothing.

        China is the international capital of cheap clothing. Go to the source, my friend. I’m saving up to go to Beijing soon. Go to the market, buy raw fabric for pennies, take it to the tailor, and get a $1000 suit for $30 flat.

        My ticket will quickly pay for itself.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Banana Republic.

        I could have gotten something cheap, sure, but I’d rather just get something I figure is going to last a while.

        • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

          Next time check out Syms or a wholesaler. You can get the same quality for 25-50 percent of the cost. I like Banana’s stuff and have a suit of theirs, but you’re definitely paying for a label.

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

            Good advice. I asked some family members where I should go; they said BR so to BR I went

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Banana Republic is a waste. It’s literally like the worst possible place to shop for anything. You’re paying 40-100% more than you should for the quality of what you’re getting.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

                Hey man, I just followed the advice I was given. And I knew where it was and had to do it on some really short notice.

                • thurdonpaul

                  So if you were given advice to jump off a bridge…….im kidding :)

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  Crowdsource it next time. I’m sure your myriad Twitter followers know of some great deals on clothing in NYC.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  “Crowdsourcing” is an awesome new portmanteau. Great addition to the lexicon.

          • JGS

            Syms bash = amazingness

            got a tux there for $60

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    The most symbolic change this year will be the number on Joe Girardi’s back. For the past two seasons, the Yanks’ skipper has donned 27 in his quest for the franchise’s 27th World Championship. With the trophy secured, Girardi will wear number 28 this year in the hunt for his next trophy.

    Kei Igawa getting #27 is also symbolic.

    It means he’s in the past.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      IETC

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    #75 Ivan Nova

    Bad. Assssssssss.

    • thurdonpaul

      that was mean joe greenes number from the steelers, so yeah your right, Bad Ass

    • Accent Shallow

      “It supports my name, like a shelf”

      /Zito

  • chriskeo

    Jesus Montero and Austin Romine will wear 83 and 84 respectively.

    Would buying a Montero shirt with number 83 be a risky investment?

    /impatient’d

  • Thomas A. Anderson

    Paul O’Neill’s number is getting retired. I think that’s a pretty safe assumption at this point. The fanbase is never letting that one go.

    With pitchers & catchers reporting today, it did feel a tad bit warmer — for a minute, anyway. Then I stepped outside and got bitchslapped by Old Man Winter.

    *looks longingly at calendar*

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      I loved Paul when he played, but his 21 will be right up there with Reggie’s and Guidry’s numbers on the list of those that shouldn’t be retired.

      • bexarama

        totally. No one is saying retire 24 or 18 (for Scotty Bro).

        • DP

          In fairness, O’Neill deserves it more than those guys. Not that he deserves it in general, but more than those guys.

          • bexarama

            Why? I’m not trying to be obnoxious about this, I’m just genuinely curious as to why people think O’Neill’s number is more retirement-worthy than, say, Tino’s. They were all incredibly important parts of those dynasty teams. I love them all, and some day I will probably bore my future children silly talking about them. But don’t retire their numbers.

            • thurdonpaul

              Well for one thing Paul was there much longer then Tino, right ?

              • DP

                Exactly.

                • DP

                  Again, I would like to point out that O’Neill shouldn’t be retired. But he is (and should be) the 2nd most likely of the retired players from those teams.

              • bexarama

                Wow, how was I unaware Paul was on the Yankees as early as 1993? I thought he came over like just prior to 1994. My bad.

                I can understand the RETIRE #21 a little more now, though I think most of the people that want it retired want it retired because O’Neill used to argue called strike threes and beat up water coolers (I love you, Paulie.).

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          If anything, Graig Nettles deserves to have his #9 retired (or, co-retired since it’s already up there in dubious fashion) more than Paulie deserves to have his #21 on the wall.

          (h/t to the RAB regulars who have convinced me to start pimping Nettles. He’s underrated… more on this later.)

          Stop refusing to issue #21… start refusing to issue #11.

          Lefty Gomez and Red Ruffing >>>>>>>>> Paulie Walnuts

          Retire ASAP: #11, #15, #51
          Start issuing immediately: #6, #18, #35, #55

          • DP

            Charlie Keller. I am founding the “Why Doesn’t Anyone Know Much Less Appreciate Charlie Keller” club.

            WDAKMLACK?!?!?

          • JGS

            15 already is retired

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              I know. It should be retired twice, just like #8.

              Red Ruffing was the balls.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        This.

      • Repeat2010

        Paul O’Neill may not be a hall of famer but he certainly deserves his number retired somewhere, and it should be in the bronx. Bernie and Paul were the two out of the crop of now retired players from the dynasty years that should be retired. If Reggie is retired O’Neill is retired.

        What’s with all the bitterness about Torre, we won the ship post-torre and the guy wrote a book that no one talks about anymore, big deal…What we do talk about are the 4 championships and 1,000 plus wins we all enjoyed.

        Manager of a dynasty= Number retired
        He will go into the hall of fame wearing a yankee hat…done deal

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Paul O’Neill’s number is getting retired. I think that’s a pretty safe assumption at this point. The fanbase is never letting that one go.

      The Yankee fanbase: Stupid f#$%&ing idiots.

      Vulgarity added for emphasis. No, I disagree, I think #21 never gets retired. Nor should it. It’ll get issued eventually, to a great player that won’t drive the fanbase batty with their ignorant anti-intellectualism.

      My suggestion:

      #21 – Jesus Montero.

      Your mind is blown.

      • bexarama

        I very much agree with this.

        2, 42 – no-brainers.
        6 – would be a no-brainer if not for the little “he wrote a book that smeared Yankee management” thing. I won’t mind if they don’t retire it.
        51, 20, 46 – borderline; I think I’d whine if they didn’t, but I wouldn’t boo anyone who wore these numbers. Because that’s dumb.

        Paul O’Neill is like Tino and Scotty to me. I will always, always, always love him and appreciate what he did for the Yankees. But don’t retire his number.

        • JGS

          I wouldn’t boo anyone who wore 2 or 42 either (not that anyone will, or even should). That’s just silly

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Here’s the breakdown, IMO:

          Currently issued and should be retired the freaking moment the player retires:
          2, 13, 20, 42

          Currently issued but should be removed from rotation and retired:
          11

          Currently retired but should be re-retired:
          15

          Currently not issued, should be retired:
          51

          ——————

          Currently not issued but should be issued:
          6, 18, 21, 35, 55

          Currently issued and probably should be issued and NOT retired:
          46

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            Agreed on all counts, but I could be convinced Bernie’s number should not be retired. Could be. Injuries make it tough to say.

            • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              But. Teh. Fear.

              • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                Rae “Feared” Caruth will be in the NFLHOF some day. Maybe you’ll find that article on a certain blog some day. Maybe.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  /teaser’d

                • ColoYank

                  tsjc – where do you stand on # 49?

                  And you’re right, Red Ruffing and Lefty Gomez are two of the top five pitchers in Yankee history. Ruffing at #2 right after Ford.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  tsjc – where do you stand on # 49?

                  Whatever happened, happened.

                  /Lost’d

                • ColoYank

                  Guidry’s number – retire, or no? I’m on the fence, and it hurts my ass.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  It’s already retired. Moot.

                  We’re not actually going to ever unretired a retired number, so… whatevs.

          • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

            6 should be retired after Jesus uses it and retires.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Here’s my thoughts on #6:

              It should probably be retired. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon, for obvious reasons. So, start issuing it now, and later, when the time is right, it’ll go up on the wall.

              Fun Fact #2: Seven different Yankees wore #3 after Babe Ruth did. The earth continued to spin on its axis with no great incident.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                Oh #6 will be retired, no doubt.

                In about 25 years after Montero retires having hit 600 HRs wearing it.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  No.

                  I’m not getting on the “Give Jesus Montero #6″ bangwagon with you.

                  I’m starting the “Give Jesus Montero #21 and End the Paul O’Neill Ridiculousness Once and For All” bangwagon.

                  No offense.

                • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                  While STILL being a catcher.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Come to the dark side, Eric.

                  It is your DESTINY!!!

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?

                  /RobotChicken’d

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    #53 Juan Miranda

    Wear it well, amigo. Wear it well.

    Sincerely,
    El Comedulce y Leche Suckmynuts

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Marcus Thames gets the well-worn 38 — five former Yankees including Brian Bruney have worn it in two years

    Bruney wore it for 1 year. He had #33 when he came to the Yanks.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Not really a misplaced modifier, but just a confusing turn of the phrase. I’ll fix it so people understand that five Yankees in two years — including Brian Bruney — have worn 38.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He was saying five pitchers (including Bruney) have worn it in the last two years.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      ahhh ok, I just misread it. ditto that.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      He also wore 99 because he thought he’d be a better pitcher. Seriously.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Ricky Vaughn style.

        • JGS

          or Turk Wendell

  • bexarama

    are Andy, Javy, and Mo there? I haven’t heard a word about any of them.

    • DP

      Mo is always there, for Mo is everywhere.

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Javy is there. http://bit.ly/bQj5Kd

      I haven’t seen any mentions of Andy or Mo. Slackers.

      • pete

        “vazquez concerned with only winning”

        but…the spreadsheets…

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Javy was smart not messing with the #36. He didn’t want to “play catch” with Edwar. Last dude to do that ended up looking like a raccoon.

  • Zack

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/ne.....;type=lgns

    Cavs landed Jamison for Ilgauskas (who will be bought out and resigned by Cavs i’m assuming) and a 1st round pick in a 3 team trade. I love NBA trades.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      The real winner in that trade:

      The New York Knickerbockers

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Exactly. No Amare. Jamison is good but he doesn’t put them over the top.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          And, they’re locked into his money.

          Fun Fact: Antawn Jamison is four full years older than Amare Stoudamire.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        I guess there is a possibility though that Jamison is used in a piece for Amare.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          No, there’s not.

          • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

            Why not?

          • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

            I’m not big on the Olympics but I’m looking forward to the Half Pipe semis tonight.

            • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

              lol… wrong spot. I actually tried asking you “why not?” in regards to Jamison but that wouldn’t post.

              • Zack

                “And, they’re locked into his money.

                Fun Fact: Antawn Jamison is four full years older than Amare Stoudamire.”

                Source: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  What Zack said.

                  /cleverlyselfreference’d

              • Nady Nation

                The Suns wanted an expiring and a promising young cost-controlled player in exchange for Amare. Jamison provides none of those qualities.

                • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

                  Yeah but the money has to match. The only worthwhile chip Cleveland had was Hickson. Hickson for Amare doesn’t float. Now that Antawn is there, maybe he fits into the equation.
                  He’d fit in well in Phoenix’s system.

                  I don’t see the Cavs giving up on Amare to get Antawn.

                  My Miami Heat and the Cavs were top contenders for Amare, considering all the Heat have to give are B-Easy and a pick, I don’t consider the Cavs out of it.

                • Zack

                  “He’d fit in well in Phoenix’s system.”

                  That doesnt matter. Owner wants to cut payroll and doesnt want Amare to opt out and get nothing in return. To get Amare you need to give up a player with a big EXPIRING contract, a young player and a draft pick.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  What Zack said again.

                  Robert Sarver would never EVER EVER EVER sign off on paying 33 year old Antawn Jamison 33M over the next two years.

    • Arman Tamzarian

      Does Drew Gooden have some disease? This makes 10 teams in years?

      • Arman Tamzarian

        7 years

    • Nady Nation

      Truly unreal. On the plus side for Knick fans, if the Cavs do not make the Finals this year, Lebron will most likely leave. With this trade, the Cavs roster is pretty much set for next year, as they will have about $45M tied up already. They’ll be able to go over the cap to resign Lebron and his Bird rights, but that’s about it. And Jamison will be their 2nd best player at age 34. Let’s go Celtics, Hawks, and Magic.

      • Jerseys_Finest_85

        hes going to e nets you know hes friends with Jay Z right. And dont tell me that doesn’t mean anything watch and see haters. He aready throws the ROC up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cecala

    Curling has to be the funniest olympic sport. They have this giant contraption for measuring which rock is closer. It is probably the least exciting sport but they use terms like “The Hammer” to build it up. I will say that Melanie Robillard on the German team is hot.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5.....ave-it.jpg (safe)

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Curling is ridiculous.

    • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

      I tuned into it a couple of days ago and it’s fairly addicting. I was pleasantly surprised by that.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Phil Hughes not wearing a hat? Talk about disrespecting the game. He must have been hanging out with Joba.

    CC’s looking pretty svelte.

    • Nady Nation

      Steve, you like the Nate deal?

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Seriously I love it. Eddie House can do one thing, shoot, and he hasn’t been effective this year. Nate can get the ball past midcourt, and for all of his negatives, some need to be taken with a grain of salt, he has played for the Knicks his whole career. With Kg, Pierce, etc. and Doc coaching him, I think he’s a great pickup. I hope they just throw him in there with the 2nd team and tell him to score.

        I still want to see them trade Ray Allen, or more appropriately Ray Allen’s contract. It’s too valuable, and they are too flawed, to get nothing for it.

        • Nady Nation

          Yea, I agree. I think he’ll be solid instant offense for a team with vets that can police him and tell him to cut the shit. Hopefully the Celts throw in that future first rounder, which is being rumored.

          Now please, get healthy and knock out the Cavs.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            I bet they did throw in the first rounder.

            Veteran teams like the C’s are constantly selling off those low first rounders to avoid the guaranteed contract, which they’d hate but which we need (to help us fill out our 15-man roster with non D-League players).

            Nate for House and a 1 makes more sense than just Nate for House by himself. For all parties involved.

  • thurdonpaul

    When the regular season starts will RAB have that little NY box back (or something similiar) in each post so we can see what we have read previously ?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Yes, we’ll have something to that effect.

      • thurdonpaul

        Awesome, thanks.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Most pointless Olympic sport?

    • JGS

      they need to revive obstacle swimming

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Doesn’t matter. They’re all useless. Find a hat and pick.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Hockey?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Most pointless Olympic sport?

      All of them except track and field.

      Athletics: the only real Olympic sport

      • ColoYank

        Amen, brother.

        You don’t mind my calling you “brother,” do you?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          No problem.

          ———

          Linc: What do you mean, “you people”?
          Alpachino: What do YOU mean, “you people”?

      • Accent Shallow

        The Greeks wrestled, too.

        You think they should all be naked?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          No.

          Only the women.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Any sport where you need a judge to decide who wins.

    • ColoYank

      Rhythmic gymnastics.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        With all those 16-year old girls? Yes.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          /lesterthemolester’d

    • ColoYank

      Anything with a snowboard.

  • Reggie C.

    When does the Nate Robinson-Eddie House trade become offical?

    Does House take minutes from Duhon? Not that that’s of any issue, but does House have a future on this team when Tony D. might be better already? I simply haven’t kept up to date on my NBA this year.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      House is just a shooter, nothing more. Frankly, swapping House for Nate does basically nothing for either team. It’s a non-trade. Both players are marginal scoring options and horrid defenders, they just score in different ways.

      I see why the Knicks did it (Nate’s a ballhog and a malcontent), I don’t get why the Celtics did it. Swapping House for Nate doesn’t make you better or worse… it makes you the same.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        So wait, Eddie House is a Knick? Oh shit but his wife and teh Brandon Laird!!!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          OH SHIT THAT MEANS NOW THE YANKEES HAVE TO TRADE LAIRD LIKE HOW THE CLEVELAND BROWNS HAD TO TRADE BRAYLON EDWARDS TO THE JETS!!!

          /stupidmediotnarrative’d

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Eh, they both have tremendous liabilities. Nate has never accumulated an assist at any level of basketball. He’s more likely to shoot a behind-the-back 3 into his own basket than he is to pass. However, if he gets hot, he’s way more of a scoring option than House.

        House is a better shooter and fit for the team, IMO. He’s a better shooter and his wife gives old men boners.

    • Zack

      House can just shoot, if he could run an offense Boston wouldnt move him.

      Eddie House has a future with whoever pays him this offseason.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        That.

        House won’t take minutes from Duhon, but he will replace the minutes that Larry Hughes/Al Harrington got as the 2/3 swingman outside shooting floor spacer in D’Antoniball.

        And he’s a better shooter than anyone on the team not named Gallinari. Solid pickup.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Who’s glad they didn’t google elephant walk while at work today?

    /Raises hand

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    It’s so annoying how I keep hearing about the 5th Starter competition in the media and in other Yankee non-RAB blogs is that Hughes is soooooooo much better suited for being the 5th starter.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Ha. I was listening to WFAN the other day on the way to work. It was Horseface Jones and some other dude on air. Some dude called up and said that he’d love to see the pitcher that doesn’t win the 5th spot go down to AAA and work, as a starter, until a spot opens in the rotation.

      They basically laughed at the dude, said he was crazy, then hung up.

      • Zack

        Don’t listen to WFAN for any baseball analysis that goes beyond W/L, RBIs, Rs, and ridiculous trade proposals.

        • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

          Hell try avoiding the radio unless you are looking for breaking news or something. I mean there’s Francesa so you want to avoid that station at all costs so you don’t hear his voice.

          There’s ESPN and it’s better but still pretty meh.

          • bexarama

            The one time in AGES I was listening to WFAN live, I caught the ANDY PETTITTE IS A STAHTING PITCHAH!!!! thing.

            • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

              Heh lucky. I had to see it on Youtube. It was ridiculous. Francesa is easily the most annoying radio host. He doesn’t listen if you argue with him and his “arguments” are the most faulty things ever.

              Unless you want to get stupid, don’t listen to Francesa.

    • bexarama

      It’s because he doesn’t have that bull in a china shop mentality, or something.

  • bexarama

    MLB Network named Torii Hunter the #1 CF of the decade?

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      Huh weird. They didn’t name one of the grittiest players every in Jacoby Ellsbury.

      • bexarama

        That’s because naming Godcoby to #1 CF is like naming Mo to #1 relief pitcher. Duh.

        (I love Torii, but… Edmonds, Beltran, Damon, Cameron, Andruw Jones, Griffey Jr. early on, and yes, even Feared Williams?)

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          In Torii’s defense, the names you just named didn’t have a good 10-year decade, they each just had a good 7 year portion of the decade next to a 3 year stretch of sucking due to being old (or, in the case of Beltran, being too young and not accumulating stats).

          • DP

            I agree, I think Hunter is the right choice there.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Actually, let me amend that: Beltran was good all decade long.

              He should be #1. Torii’s a solid #2, though.

          • bexarama

            I see what you’re saying, but there are really very few players that excelled for that entire decade, and these are generally guys that are the elite players of the game, like A-Rod.

            • andrew

              Yes, and Torii is one of those guys who did excel for the whole decade. Hence, he was named #1. I would’ve gone with Beltran, but he, Hunter and Cameron were the only ones who lasted in CF for the whole decade.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                I would’ve gone with Beltran, but he, Hunter and Cameron were the only ones who lasted in CF for the whole decade.

                Repeated for emphasis.

        • JGS

          I was about to say it’s gotta be Beltran, then I look at the stats again.

          Edmonds–140 OPS+, +7.5 UZR
          Hunter–109 OPS+, -14.1 UZR
          Beltran–122 OPS+, +27.4 UZR

          considering the UZR era didn’t begin until Edmonds was 32 (Beltran was 25 at the time), this one isn’t even close

          • bexarama

            Edmonds was siiiiick. People forget how awesome he was.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Here’s the problem, though:

            Jim Edmonds, 2000-2005: 878 games, .292/.406/.584 153+
            Jim Edmonds, 2006-2009: 338 games, .248/.339/.450 103+

            Is Jim Edmonds the best CF of the first half of the decade? Hells yes.

            Best CF of the entirety of the decade? Probably not, no.

            • JGS

              It might have been enough though. WAR has Beltran leading 41.7 to 31.3, but that only goes back to 2002, taking away two of Beltran’s worst years and two of Edmonds’ best, and the swing would probably put Edmonds in front despite not playing in 2009 and being somewhat less than awesome for the last few years

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                But what I’m saying is, no matter how awesome those first six years were, the fact that Edmonds was only good in 6 years, then pretty average in three more, and not good enough to find a big league contract in the final year is probably enough of a disqualification.

                • JGS

                  perhaps–it’s certainly a mark against him. Edmonds is a defensible choice though. Hunter is a bit of a tough sell

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Hunter is a bit of a tough sell

                  No, he’s not.

        • andrew

          I really don’t think Hunter is a terrible choice. I would’ve gone with Beltran, but I think you’re fantasizing about the 90’s with a lot of those names you bring up. (Bernie, Griffey, Jones)

          Griffey – Not only was he not that productive most of the decade, but he stopped playing CF regularly in 2006.

          Bernie- Absolutely not. Didn’t have an above average year after 2002.

          Jones – Good for half the decade.

          Cameron – consistently solid, but never really broke through.

          Edmonds – only an asset for the first half of the decade

          Damon – i would probably have Johnny 3rd behind Beltran and Torii.

          I see Beltran as the only one with a legitimate case, and maybe Damon.

          Beltran and Hunter were the only two who played CF for the whole decade

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Fun Fact #3:

            WAR, 2000-2009
            Johnny Damon: 37.2
            Mike Cameron: 35.7

            Oh, and… Johnny Damon is no longer a centerfielder. Mike Cameron still is.

            • andrew

              Well then looks like my rankings of Beltran, Hunter, Damon and Cameron as my top four isn’t too bad. I could give Cameron a bump for his better defense and sticking in CF the whole time, but I’m biased!

    • Hangoverologist

      Probably because of the SPECTACULAR PLAYS. Nothing more.

    • bexarama

      Dear everyone,

      I was stupid and didn’t realize Torii Hunter had come up as early as he did. I suck.

      Sincerely,
      bexarama

      PS. Edmonds would still be my #1, just because I value a crazy peak like he had over Hunter.

      • bexarama

        Eh. Beltran/Edmonds. You could make an easy case for either.

        I guess I should be proud that MLB Network didn’t name Ichiro their #1 right fielder, center fielder, and left fielder of the decade. Heh.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        All I heard was:

        bexarama says:

        Dear everyone…I suck.

        Tommie: very aroused.

        • bexarama

          Ahaha, I knew that was going to be your response.

          And you’ve actually done a good job convincing me that Torii was pretty worthy of that, hmm. Maybe because the sabermetric people are always whining about all the Gold Gloves he gets and stuff, and because I pretty much agree with them, I tend to underrate the people a lot of sabermetric guys underrate (I’m really bad about this and Jeter, and I love Jeter :( ).

          • DP

            Underrated/overrated doesn’t necessarily imply good/bad. For example- Nick Swisher is underrated whereas Josh Beckett is overrated. I’d still rather have Beckett.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            And you’ve actually done a good job convincing me…

            Bill Clinton (Darrell Hammond): That’s right. I’m not gonna trash John McCain just because he’s a Republican, or a war hero, or a great friend who’s hilarious and cool. I will not. I will not. I, for one, respect those things. Still, there are many things we disagree on. For instance, Sen. McCain likes the show “C.S.I.” Whereas, I love… “Californication”.

            Seth Meyers: Well, there might be qualities about John McCain you respect, but do you honestly believe that Gov. Sarah Palin is prepared to be Vice-President?

            Bill Clinton (Darrell Hammond): Look… sometimes women will be uncomfortable doing something at first…

            I have found, with enough persuasion… they will come around.

            http://www.hulu.com/watch/3686.....ll-clinton (safe)

  • Salty Buggah

    Need some opinions on what I should get:

    The official WS shirt, now only 18 bucks. And it comes with a free WS towel.
    http://bit.ly/dDamPn

    or

    The championship roster shirt, $16
    http://bit.ly/cUbWhV
    or

    The “got rings” shirt, $13
    http://bit.ly/caCQo7

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      I like understated, so I’d pick Option #1.

      But that’s me.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Ditto.

    • bexarama

      definitely #1

    • Salty Buggah

      Thanks for your input everyone. I agree that #1 is probably the best option.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    The Yanks gave Montero #83 because that’s how many HRs he plans to hit in his rookie season.

    He’s going to do a Girardi with the numbers, but instead of Championships, his version will be new Single Season HR Records.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      Jesus could do that as a September call up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      He catches like Berra(#8) and hits like Ruth(#3), so 83 is totally appropriate. Sorry for showing the numbers of those players, like anyone on here doesn’t know them…..so I will end..

      /Salty’d

      Sorry, Salty.

      • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

        IETC.

        And I might be warming up to 83 for the Jesus.

      • Salty Buggah

        Heh, I think you messed up the joke. I’m supposed to explain someone else’s joke, not make my own and explain it. You were supposed to build off of The Artist’s comment.

        • Salty Buggah

          whoops, should’ve said Nostra-Artist’s comment

          • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

            I thought the whole meme was that you explained your own jokes? Where the hell is Mondesi?

  • Alex K.

    Now I have to get a NEW stitched Igawa jersey?! Dammit!

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    With every passing hour, I grow more worried the Knicks will somehow not shed either Jeffries, Harrington, Hughes, Curry or Dolan.

    And if the Bulls fuck the Knicks one more time…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Patience, young padawan. It shall happen. Morey and Walsh are just haggling over the lottery protection of the 2012 pick we’re sending them.

      We’ve got the best offer on the table, and they’re motivated to use McGrady’s contract to get two decent assets (namely, Jordan Hill and a first rounder).

      You shall not be disappointed. I feel it.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        I think I’ve been conditioned as a Knick fan to assume some other team will come over, piss in my cereal and fuck my mother while I ate said cereal.

        It’s like being a Met fan.

        If we get Boston’s first-rounder, even more reason to pull the trigger. It would be great to get lottery protection, but frankly, I don’t care that much (even though they’re asking for a fucking ransom, as they should). The goal is to get as far below the cap as possible.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          I think I’ve been conditioned as a Knick fan to assume some other team will come over, piss in my cereal and fuck my mother while I ate said cereal. It’s like being a Met fan.

          My advice: Grow a pair.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            It’s a psychological issue, not a physiologic issue.

            That you have any confidence is amazing.

            I don’t believe in curses or any of that bullshit, and Walsh has done a solid job putting together a semi-competitive team while getting below the cap, but it’s like having PTSD.

            I still have lucid dreams where I walk into a gym and I see Jared Jeffries, Starbury, Jeffries, Jerome James, Randolph, Eddy Curry, Isiah, and Dolan.

            I’m holding an AK-47 and they’re all tied up.

            Poof! I’m awake.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              …it’s like having PTSD. I still have lucid dreams where I walk into a gym and I see Jared Jeffries, Starbury, Jeffries, Jerome James, Randolph, Eddy Curry, Isiah, and Dolan. I’m holding an AK-47 and they’re all tied up. Poof! I’m awake.

              Memries
              Don’ live like people do
              Dey always ‘membah you
              Wedder tings is good or bad
              It’s just de memories dat you ‘ave
              De Beenie Man a sing-say ‘EY!
              Bwoy stop liv’on inna de pass
              Just remember when man ah ride ‘orse
              Now yuh dead dat mean yuh soul loss
              Juss like a serpent, snake on de graas

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQyq3vhFhY (NSFW)

              • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                That was just awful. I’m distressed knowing people willingly spent money to hear that.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Not a reggae fan, huh?

                • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                  Not necessarily. I like Slightly Stoopid, Pepper, Damien Marley and a few others. On a whole, no, it’s not really my thing.

                  But that song in particular was grating.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  As a man who regularly talks about listening to Justin Beiber…

                  Glass houses, stones.

                • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura
    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      The Magic get…..Nobody! Because they’re the most complete team in the NBA, bitches! (maybe another point guard would help…but I digress, Bitches!)

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Really? You really think they’re the most complete team in the NBA? They’re good but…no.

        • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

          Sorry, but…yes.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Dwight Howard is too nice. He needs to stop smiling and goofing around and start openly bitching out his teammates for not getting him the ball every single freaking possession.

          Dwight, you’re possibly the most talented big man in the past 30 years, including Shaq in his prime. Start acting like it.

          There’s entirely too little Howard and way too much Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson in the Magic offense for me to respect that team yet.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            I honestly can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              I’m actually dead freaking serious.

              Is Dwight Howard the balls? Yes. Is Dwight Howard also waaaaaaaaaay too passive and only playing to like 60-70% of his potential? Also yes.

              Dwight Howard is like David Robinson with better athleticism. He’s now been in the league 6 full years. He’s never yet averaged more than 21 points a game. He’s currently averaging 18.0 ppg.

              Think about that for a moment.

              Dwight Howard should be dominating. He’s not. He’s not selfish enough. You’re the best player on the court. Act like it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

            As a Knick fan, the only team that you can’t respect is the Nets.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Good point.

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Ha. Shaun White is so sick wit it.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    Holy lord are the Bulls and Knicks playing a sloppy game. Way more turnovers than points.

  • bexarama

    The 2003 Red Sox were a dumb team. Baseball’s Seasons: 2003 is pretty freaking awesome so far, though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      It’s great until the end. Bruce Willis is a ghost the entire time.

      • bexarama

        Haha, I fully plan to turn it off after the section on the ALCS is over.

        Oh YES I really wanted to relive the six-pitcher no-hitter of the Yankees by the Astros >:(

        • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

          They would show the Yankees for FIVE SECONDS in the ALDS and are giving the Sox hours of praise…

          • bexarama

            Dude, Cowboy Up. They shaved their heads. They were so awesome!!!!

            • bexarama

              I also like how they spent time detailing all the Sox home runs in Game 1 of the ALCS, and then just mentioned that the Yankees tied it up in Game 2. (I’m probably being paranoid. Oh well.)

              Posada’s “bring it on” thing against Pedro really never gets old, though.

              (Aaaagh shut up Dan Shaugnawhatever CHB)

              • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                From the way their narrating the thing if I didn’t know anything of baseball history I would think the Sox would win with this presentation.

                • bexarama

                  My mom just said the same thing.

                  AAAH KEVIN MILLAR NO ONE CARES.

                • bexarama

                  They were literally playing sad music during the end of the Aaron Boone game.

                  Oh, and another great blast from the past with my mom, live from when we were watching the Boone game –
                  Joe Buck: And for the Boston Red Sox, more heartbreak.
                  My mom: WHO GIVES A SH-T?!

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        BTW-If you were planning on seeing “Surrogates” don’t. You’ve already seen it 50 times.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          How bad are we talking about? Should I delete it from my Netflix queue?

          I mean, technically, it’s essentially free to me at this point. I’m already paying for the service.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            If you’ve seen anything with Bruce Willis, you’ve seen it already. The same formula he’s been doing since the 80’s.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Gracias.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    Salmons not playing is NOT because he’s in a deal for T-Mac.

    -According to SI’s Chris Mannix

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      The Bulls won’t swing the TMac deal because they won’t surrender a Jordan Hill-level talent and they’re attempting to unload Kirk Hinrich’s deal, which makes Jared Jeffries’s deal look like a non-guaranteed 10-day contract in comparison.

      Knicks package >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bulls package

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Shani FTMFW

    • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

      *Joba fist pump*

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    The Yankees will do another team outing, similar to last year’s afternoon of billiards. “We will do something again,” Girardi said. “Plans are subject to change, but our plan is to do it the day before our first game here.” Girardi said he hasn’t decided what the team will do, but suggestions of paintball and bowling left him feeling uneasy because he wants something with virtually zero injury risk. Nothing that involves running through the woods or swinging heavy objects.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....very-year/

    Anyone want to hazard a guess?

    Mine is that Alex takes the whole team to Le Trapeze or Checkmates, since the doormen know him so well.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Satin Dolls.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Did they shut the Gold Club down?

        /Ewing’d

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      Girardi should get the team some steaks and blowjobs then proceeding to go out for pussytubing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Mons Venus for Beer Pong. An oldie but a goodie.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Every time you mention the Mons Venus establishment, I think of Bart, Milhouse, Nelson, and Ralph going to see the movie Naked Lunch and coming out afterwards saying, “I can think of at least two things wrong with that title.”

  • Nady Nation

    If the Cavs win the title will it:

    A. ensure that Lebron stays
    B. allow Lebron to leave knowing he gave Cleveland it’s long awaited championship
    C. have no effect on his decision

    My vote is unfortunately for A, although I will pray for B and C.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      C

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    My favorite new list to ogle:

    http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/top500.htm

    We should have an RAB party this May-ish when Alex becomes the 20th member of the 100 WAR club. Rarefied air.

    • bexarama

      Holy crap A-Rod.

      Why is Manny so low (well, relatively speaking)? The defense?

      • bexarama

        Also, Mariano Rivera has been more worth more wins over his career than Andy Pettitte. That’s kind of insane.:
        http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/top500p.htm

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Wow, that one surprises me.

          I’ll have to eat my words from an arguement earlier when I said I’d take Andy’s career over Mo’s.

          • bexarama

            Do they use a different formula to determine WAR on that site? Because Andy’s 2009 has a 3.3 WAR on Fangraphs and a 1.8 WAR there. Actually, now that I’m looking, they have to have a different formula or whatever, because all the numbers are different. Hmm. =/

            /dork’d

      • bexarama

        The only people that are on that list and higher than Teixeira (#408) that have been playing as long as he has, or for a shorter amount of time, are Utley (#359) and Mauer (#391). (fistpump)

      • Dirt

        Holy crap Pujols…

        • bexarama

          I am no longer surprised by anything Albert Pujols-related.

    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      good find. This is fun.

      Bagwell Hall of Famer?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Yes.

        • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

          agreed

    • DP

      I think we should wait til the end of the year. It’s like a RB breaking a record. You gotta clear it by 10 or so yards so you don’t lose yards and go back to 2nd.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    “I’m not concerned that we don’t have the players to do it; I’m concerned exactly how we place them. There is a ton of talent in that room. We have very good hitters up and down that lineup, but you want to try to find the right mix. … The concern is exactly where we put them, not that we don’t have the right pieces. I believe we have the right pieces.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....ugged.html

    Girardi said his #1 concern is the lineup, and since lineup jiggering really doesn’t make much difference, that tells me just how loaded the team is this year.

    So who’s your 1-9? I’ll start:

    1-Jeter
    2-Granderson
    3-Tex
    4-Alex
    5-Johnson
    6-Posada
    7-Cano
    8-Swisher
    9-Gardner

    That my lineup facing Righties. Johnson hits #2 facing a Lefty and Grandy drops down to 8th with everyone else moving up a notch. I like the protection Tex gives Grandy, I like his speed at the top of the lineup, and his OBP is .367 facing Righties (Johnson .394). Some SB will make up for the .027 difference in OBP, so Grandy will be running.

    I’m not married to this lineup, but I want to smooth Curtis’ transition to the Bronx, and defensively I would put him in Left. So offensively, I want to make things easy for him.

    • bexarama

      I am pretty much obsessed with the idea of Nick Johnson batting #2 just because with Jeter and Johnson being on base as often as they are in front of Tex and A-Rod… oh. my. goodness.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        So was I, but I really want to get Grandy going. In my plan, he’s playing LF. And again, a few SB’s make up for 1 base every 40 ABs.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Then, one request:

          If you prefer Granderson over Johnson as the #2 hitter because you think he can be productive there, leave Grandy as the #2 against lefties too.

          Grandy #2 instead of Johnson I don’t agree with, but I see the argument. Flipping Grandy or Johnson depending on the handedness of the pitcher is needless disruption of rhythm, though. Don’t outsmart yourself.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            I’m not flipping them, Grandy goes to the basement against Lefties until he proves otherwise. But for a marginal difference in OBP facing Righties, I prefer Grandy’s speed.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              I’m not flipping them

              For all intents and purposes, yes, you are.

              Grandy goes to the basement against Lefties until he proves otherwise.

              The best way for him to prove otherwise is to hit in the same spot in the order regardless of whom is on the mound.

              Seriously, I’d totally be much more amenable to getting on board with Granderson as the #2 hitter if he’s the #2 hitter in all situations.

              Batting Grandy #2 against righties and #8 against lefties and Johnson #5 against righties and #2 against lefties is just asi-friggin-nine.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Batting Grandy #2 against righties and #8 against lefties and Johnson #5 against righties and #2 against lefties is just asi-friggin-nine.

                Tell us how you really feel.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Tell us how you really feel.

                  http://razzball.com/wp-content.....arting.JPG (safe)

                • bexarama

                  If that picture doesn’t scream “Hall of Famer” I don’t know what does.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  You were saying something that sounded intelligent, but I couldn’t hear it over the sound of my farting.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      There’s no amount of stolen bases that will make up for 27 points of OBP. Johnson’s the perfect #2 hitter for this team. The more ducks on the pond for Tex and A-Rod, the better.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I disagree. You’re talking 1 base every 40 ABs. Or less than 1 run a month. I think Grandy’s speed will make up for that, and then some. Both in scoring when Nick would wind up on 3rd and by being in scoring position when Nick wouldn’t be.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Everyone is in scoring position when Tex and A-Rod are at the plate.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            OK, I’ll refer you to my TSJC reply below.

            Damn, I’m sending everyone all over the place tonight.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          A stolen base has a run value of 0.16 runs. (Source)

          If NJ’s 27 points of OBP equal one extra run a month, Granderson would have to steal at least six bases each month to make up for it (6.25 in reality). That means at least 36 steals a year (ten more than Granderson has ever had in a season) just to break even.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Right, but Grandy’s a plus runner and those are aggregate numbers. In his specific case, it makes more sense than it would with a runner with average speed. On the flip side, Johnson’s a sub par runner. So the spread between the two players is big once they’re on the bases, and the difference between their ability to get on base is fairly small.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              27 points of OBP is not small. The Mets’ team OBP was 27 points less than the Yanks’ team OBP last year, and they scored 247 fewer runs.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                The also hit the fewest HRs in the majors. Their lack of run scoring wasn’t solely attributable to .027 of OBP, as your comment (seems, at least) to imply.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  The Phillies’ team OBP was 28 points less, and they scored 95 fewer runs. And they hit the second most homers in baseball.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Fine, but the point is largely moot anyway. It’s not like Johnson doesn’t hit in my lineup. He does, so his OBP will be in there.

                • camilo Gerardo

                  Good debate, boys. Nostra, you pretty much tapped out. Ax man Gano!

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                And… it’s not 27 points of OBP.

                IT’S FIFTY-EIGHT POINTS OF OBP.

                http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-777366

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Off topic. If you want to discuss the merits of your idea, we can do that elsewhere.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Jete
      NJ
      Teix
      Al
      Cano
      JoPo
      C-Grand
      Swish
      Grit/Hoff/Winn

      Same lineup everyday, 9 hole not withstanding.

      • DP

        Switch Granderson and Posada for me.

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          Everyday? Unless Grandy hits lefties well he shouldn’t be 6th or back to back with robbie, imo.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Both Robbie and Nick hit lefties just as well as righties, so we should have no qualms putting Curtis next to either of them in any lineup configuration.

            • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

              Right, which is why you really don’t have to worry about stacking up Lefty batters when it comes to Nick.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                No argument there.

            • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

              Unless Curtis hits lefties better than he has the past 4 years I don’t think he should hit 6th everyday.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                The #1-5 is locked in to Jeter-Nick-Tex-ARod-Posada. The #9 is locked into whomever plays on any given day from the WinnGardThamHoff quadfecta. That leaves #6, #7, and #8 for some grouping of Cano, Swisher, and Granderson.

                I personally think Cano gets #6 out of loyalty and expectation. Granderson and Swisher thus are left with #7 or #8.

                Flip a coin. Doesn’t matter.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      That my lineup facing Righties. Johnson hits #2 facing a Lefty and Grandy drops down to 8th with everyone else moving up a notch.

      I disagree.

      Fewer moving parts is a good thing. Nick hits both lefties and righties equally well. He’s an OBP machine. He’s a PER-F#$%ING-FECT #2 hitter.

      Lineup v both righties and lefties:

      1-The Blazing Copper Horse
      2-Nick the Stick
      3-I Wanna Tex You Up
      4-Nails CentiWAR
      5-Urine Trouble
      6-The Lazy Dominican
      7-Swishahouse
      8-My Man, 100 Grand
      9-WinnGardThamHoff

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Read my reply to Mike. Grandy will score when Nick won’t. More than makes up for the 1 base every 40 ABs.

        Now you could argue that Nick being on base for the power guys behind him would add up to him scoring when Grandy was never on base to begin with. Which is true, but you hit more singles and doubles than you do HRs, and Grandy can steal 2B and score on a single. And/or score from 1B/2B on a double when Nick would get stranded at 3B. I think the latter will happen far more often than the former.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Nick’s career OBP: .402
          Curtis’s career OBP: .344

          In a 650 PA season, that means Nick’s getting on base 261.3 times. Granderson gets on base 223.6 times. That’s 38 more baserunners on the year. That’s more than a baserunner a week.

          I’ll still take Nick, thanks.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            But Nick is teh brittle.

            http://tinyurl.com/yzaddcd

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Facing Righties.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              No.

              First rule of engineering: Less moving parts is better.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                Pffft, you’ve obviously never met a chemical engineer.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                First Rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Why not just put Gardner as the lead-off?

      I keed.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Will Grandy really be running, though? Frankly, I don’t want him running in front of Tex/A-Rod. With hitters like that behind him, is the extra base really going to be worth it? He’ll be able to score from first on any XBH anyway.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Depends on the pitcher and catcher, obviously. But even starting the runner can mean he scores from 1B where Johnson doesn’t.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    I wonder if Jorge has seen the play Urinetown.

    • bexarama

      That show is the balls.

      Little Sally: I don’t think too many people are going to come see this musical, Officer Lockstock.

      Lockstock: Why do you say that, Little Sally? Don’t you think people want to be told that their way of life is unsustainable?

      Little Sally: That, and the title’s awful.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Saw it on Broadway a while ago. It was great.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    As the Knicks collapse. It’ll be nice to see what Friday’s team looks like.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    TSJC, with regards to your Dwight Howard comment above, he’s Bill Simmons’ take. I know he’s not too highly regarded around these parts, but he’s dead on here (and he really knows his NBA shit).

    Fact: Howard has played every game this season.

    Fact: A whopping 75 players have attempted more field goals than he has, including Jason Thompson, John Salmons, Danilo Gallinari, Luis Scola, Carl Landry, Raymond Felton, Andrew Bynum, Jamal Crawford and Kenyon Martin.

    Fact: He’s 109th in the league in field goal attempts per game, tied with Ryan Gomes at 9.6. Ryan Gomes!

    Fact: Teammates Vince Carter (14.9), Rashard Lewis (11.9) and Jameer Nelson (10.3) all average more field goals attempts than he does.

    Fact: He leads the league in free throw attempts (10.4 per game), so realistically, that means Howard is getting about 14-15 scoring touches per game. Not even four a quarter.

    My take: He’s too nice of a guy. It’s both the best and worst thing about him. If you ever played basketball, you know there’s one rule with big guys: Make sure they touch the ball enough. If they don’t get enough touches, they get cranky. They stop running the floor. They stop setting good picks. They stop crashing the boards. Big guys are like women — they need affection, they need to be stroked every so often, and if you ignore them, they start to resent you.

    In Howard’s case, nobody in Orlando has to worry about keeping him happy. He’s always happy! He’s a good soldier. In a roundabout way, he’s avoiding the responsibility of carrying an offense every night. This is easier. He gets to run around, jump over guys, ram some dunks home, block some shots, flex his muscles, smile to the crowd and concentrate on his strengths. Of course, he will never, ever, ever get better this way, and if you look closely at his stats these past three years, he is what he is: 18-19 points, 13-14 rebounds, 3 blocks, 60 percent shooting. Alpha dog pedigree, sidekick mindset. Too bad.

    And he even did it all FACT: style, which I know you love.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Spot on, well done, Simmons. The moneyshot, repeated for emphasis:

      …so realistically, that means Howard is getting about 14-15 scoring touches per game. Not even four a quarter.

      I hate the NYC press corps, because they’re full of idiots, but if Dwight Howard was a Knick, they’d all be screaming bloody murder constantly about Howard not getting enough touches, and they’d be right. They’d be calling for D’Antoni (or whomever was the HC) to be fired immediately.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Maybe Ron Jeremy should demand his players get Dwight the ball more.

        /that joke never gets old

    • Reggie C.

      Bill Simmons is a fantastic writer. His podcasts are hilarious and though his love of the RS is annoying, I gotta say, he’s insightful.

      • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    Meet the Knicks, Greet the Knicks.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Klaw on the WEEI today (http://audio.weei.com/m/290604.....w-espn.htm)

    After he hung up, Michael Holley was saying that some guys just know how to drive in runs, so Wade Boggs is a better hitter than Reggie Jackson, but Jackson drives in more runs. I texted them “Reggie Jackson knocked in 16% of all baserunners in his career, Boggs knocked in 15%. RBI are all about opportunity.” They read the text right away on the air, and he says it helped prove his point because Jackson hit in the .260’s and Boggs hit in the .320’s, yet Jackson was still more productive.

    Fail.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Carl Everett and Jesus rode dinosaurs in the 1740s.

      Wait, what?

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      WTF? That arguement makes no sense at all.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Every story I ever hear about WEEI makes me glad that I’m not immediately and constantly subjected to it in my local radio area.

      Listening to WEEI (or it’s NYC cousin, WFAN) is probably a violation of the 8th Amendment.

      • bexarama

        Sports radio is pretty much the same everywhere, utterly terrible.

        I will say Boston sports radio is a liiiiittle bit more likely to call the Red Sox an unstoppable awesome dynasty team when they win three in a row, and then a terrible team that will finish under .500 when they lose three in a row than other sports radio talking about their respective teams. A little bit.

      • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

        WEEI is faaaaantastic during a Sox losing streak. I’m sure nowadays it’s unbearable.

        • bexarama

          I expect it’s a combination between “we’re the best team evah!” and “OMG WE’RE NOT GONNA SCORE ANY RUNS!!!!”

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    To all those tuned into the NBA, do you think the Celtics will end up trading Ray Allen(‘s contract)?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Nope. Don’t see it.

  • Reggie C.

    DAMMIT DANILO.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      I come to expect these things.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        This year: irrelevant.

        Watch how much better Danilo and Wilson instantly become when they start playing with a true stud and are merely #3 and #4 options.

        • http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/nyspringsteen.jpg E Street Shuffle

          exactly. Even this year we’ve seen flashes of brilliance from Wilson and the rooster. Next year when we hopefully have a somewhat superstar they wont be guarded by the opponents top players meaning they’ll perform even better

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Time for bed, I’m falling asleep. Thanks in advance to Mike, TSJC and whoever else disagreed with me on my lineup for helping me write my morning post. Gotta have the counter arguments built in, I hate one sided pieces.

    • camilo Gerardo

      You’re theyankeeU????? I’ll be sure to read your post. Granderson’s speed may help him stay out of the DP, and his CS rate is pretty good at 20%. 2009 was definitely an outlier for him, and i think if you are batting him 2nd v RHP, do it v LHP as well. It’s a good position for him to get less breaking balls for balls

      • Moshe Mandel

        He’s one of theyankeeu.com writers (unless you mean the Twitter guy, in which case that’s me). Steve (Artist) writes our morning post every day.

  • Peter

    While RAB claims Nick J. will wear 27 (“Another once and current Yankee, Nick Johnson, has opted for 27.”), the Yankees website roster has Nick wearing 26, and no one on the active 40-man roster wearing 27.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      It’s a typo.

      Nick’s wearing #26. Igawa got #27.

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        It’s not a typo. Click through to read the Bryan Hoch article to which I linked. Nick originally had 26 but switched it to 27 yesterday. The official site hasn’t been updated yet.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Ah, gracias.

          I like these moves.

  • JH

    I’ve been waiting for the Yankees to retire Paul O’Neill’s #21 since the day he retired following the 2001 World Series.

    I don’t mean to go overboard here, but your suggesting it might or could be returned to the rotation offended me.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      I don’t mean to go overboard here, but your suggesting it might or could be returned to the rotation offended me.

      I don’t mean to go overboard in response, but your being offended at it offended me.

      • JH

        I was being hyperbolic. Just haven’t heard a Yankee fan suggest it shouldn’t be retired before. I thought most of us took it for granted Paul would get his day at the Stadium.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          I think your survey size probably isn’t big enough. There’s tons of Yankee fans who love Paulie but don’t think he was good enough long enough to merit having his number retired. That’s a very special honor, and Paulie’s pretty far down that list of guys who should be honored in that way.

          • JH

            I respect your POV, but I hope you’re wrong. I’ve been looking forward to it for a long time.