Open Thread: Simply the Best


Just 12 more sleeps until it all starts again…

The Rangers are playing the Devils, while the Knicks, Nets, and Isles all have games of their own. Enjoy the thread.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. bexarama says:

    So who else is stuck inside on Saturday night because of, as I heard someone on local news call it, Snowtorious B.I.G.? Wooooo!

  2. WIlliam says:


  3. Evan says:

    Thanks to the ARCA race I just saw, I have the word “Danica” stuck in my head.

  4. We all anxiously await the arrival of pitchers and catchers, but the minute after they show up there, we start bitching about how boring it is and how nothing is really going on.

    My benchmark is that first Spring Training broadcast on either YES or CBS radio. That’s when it really starts for me.

  5. The two story lines the Yanks will try to push this ST will be ‘the 5th Starter competition’ and the ‘Who Plays CF?’ competition.

    Neither of which I’m buying into. Joba will be out 5th starter and Gardner will play CF. They don’t need some bogus competition top figure out who these guys are as players, they know already.

    • Hughesus Christo says:

      Why do you keep insisting that Granderson won’t be playing center?

      Gardner will start in left.

      • What are you basing your opinion on?

        • Mike P says:

          The fact that you don’t want your best outfielder shifting positions all season long?

        • Hughesus Christo says:

          The fact that All-Star CF Curtis “I just cost two of our best prospects our starting center fielder” Granderson isn’t going to be displaced by Brett Gardner or Randy Winn.

          • That’s nice, but I’m going with what Brian Cashman is saying.


            • Hughesus Christo says:

              Which is absurd. Everyone should tape this to their walls at home:

              “Nothing any Yankee official says in public means anything.”

              • That’s reasonable. In fact, lets just stop following the team news altogether, since Cashman controls the Baseball Ops, which includes the PR department.

                • Hughesus Christo says:

                  If you’re talking about team news that comes on the record from people employed by the Yankees…

                  I agree 100%

                • You really don’t want me to hold you to that. Because pretty much every time you discuss the Yanks, I’ll be able to trace the info discussed back to Brian Cashman. Then you will have to admit you believe none of it in order to be consistent. Which pretty much makes it impossible to discuss the team.

                • Hughesus Christo says:

                  I mean, it’s fine for it to spur conversation, but you can’t conclude your point with “But Cashman/Levine/Hal said…”

                  CashLevStein have no incentive to tell the truth about anything in public. They will only say things that serve their interests at the moment. I don’t see any benefit from guaranteeing or shutting off jobs to people, in public, two months before Opening Day.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              He didn’t say anything, he just acknowledged that they’ll consider putting Granderson in LF if they feel it makes the team better. All the evidence showed that Swisher should have been the starting RF last year, but they went with Nady anyway.

              • Good point, but IIRC those differences were fairly small. Playing Gardner in Left ruins what little value he has, his value is largely tied up in being a + defender. The team is significantly better with Grandy in LF and Gardner in CF, and I have to assume the Yanks will make a rational decision.

                • Slugger27 says:

                  The team is significantly better with Grandy in LF and Gardner in CF

                  theres really no way to definitively say that… the only way thats true is if gardner is MUCH better defensively in CF than grandy, and i just dont think thats the case

                  my guess is at most, gardner probably saves a few runs per season on avg more than grandy in CF, and thats not worth shuffling them from position to position since gardner almost certainly wont be an everyday starter

                • I know we don’t have a big UZR sample as of yet, but as Cashman said in the piece I linked that the Yanks believe he’s one of the best defensive CF in Baseball. His words, not mine.

                • BTW-Your point about the differential is a good one, but if you’re going to play both of them anyway and you get more value out of one configuration than the other, then you go with it. Grandy’s already said he’s cool with it either way.

                • Spaceman.Spiff says:

                  Gardner’s much more likely to be sitting more often than Granderson as when he gets cold or there’s a tough lefty pitching, Winn will take his spot. It makes no sense to have to jerk Granderson back and forth from LF and CF if that’s the case unless you’re A) sure that Gardner’s bat is good enough to be an everyday player and B) sure that Gardner’s defense is clearly, markedly better than Granderson’s in a significant way. I don’t think we can assume either A or B.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Gardner might not even be in the lineup on Opening Day. If Boston goes with Lester, Winn will probably play.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      The two story lines the Yanks NY media will try to push this ST will be ‘the 5th Starter competition’ and the ‘Who Plays CF?’ competition.


  6. Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

    I’m hang an arguement with some from RAB who’s on the opposite extreme. This poster believes the Yankees never makes mistakes.
    The original lohud post: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-1229528

    The arguement so far:

    Poster # 1

    “Sam are you speaking from your own worry and/or disappointment here?

    I don’t mean to be so cavalier in my approach here but we’re talking the New York Yankees. The alpha and the omega is that if the Yankees felt Damon’s presence, in any way, shape, or form, was so instrumental to the Yankees winning – he’d be here.

    Good Lord.”

    But that would mean that you believe that the Yankees NEVER make mistakes-and as much as I think they’ve made the right move in not signing Damon, the type of thinking “if they needed him, they’d have him” is innaccurate, because that would imply the Yankees always make the right move, every time, and that simply isn’t true.”
    Poster # 1:
    “Check it out. I believe the Yankees make the right move, all the time, and I believe they especially made the right move this time. If the players don’t pan out, oh well. The Yankees have the best information there is, far more than you and I and the rest of us here all put together from nation to nation could ever hope to have. The organization can only do so much. It’s up to the player to produce. There is many a slip between the cup and the lip. For instance, injuries can intervene.

    I think nothing pleases GM armchairs as much as being able to say I TOLD YOU SO! As if their knowledge was superior to the organization’s. I don’t buy it. It’s more than the organization throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks. So I will always believe in the moves the organization makes. They do it with the closest there could be to perfect information. What happens with that move is always a question mark.

    May I submit to you two of the most desired players in the recent past – Carl Pavano and Jose Contreras. The baseball world died to have both of them. You know the rest. Did the Yankees make a mistake? I think not. Things didn’t work out. That’s life.”


    “If you really believe that it’s impossible for the Yankees to make mistakes, then there’s no argument.

    The Yankee however are run by humans, so I don’t believe that to be true.

    While I think that they made the right move regarding Damon, tof course they can make mistakes. Kevin Brown was a mistake. Pavano was a mistake (one good year slipped amidst years of mediocrity). And Kei Igawa was a ridiculous, boneheaded decision.

    Is it possible to argue that Pavano and Johnson were not mistakes? Sure. But that would mean that you believe the Yankees to be infallible…and they’re not . They’re human. The most glaring proof of this is Kei Igawa.”

    Poster # 1:

    “I guess I just think it’s far too easy for fans to become disgruntled and point fingers when things don’t go their way. I disagree with you again. Those players were not mistakes because the Yankees did a poor job of scouting. If that were the case, the Yankees would have been the only players and that was hardly the case. Pavano and Contreras were both courted heavily. Neither worked out. That doesn’t move me. The day the average fan becomes the arbiter of what was a good move and what wasn’t a good move is the day I stop following the game. Unless you’re (meaning the fan) prepared to give a thesis on why a move was the wrong one, I don’t bother listening.

    I guess I’m saying the weakest excuse in the book that any fan can make is that an organization made the wrong move based solely on the fact that the player didn’t produce.



    “You know, more than one team can make mistakes.

    Kei Igawa is the definition of “boneheaded, ridiculous mistake”.

    But you’re comment was, basically, “If the Damon could help the Yankees they’d have him.”

    I like that the Yanks didn’t get him, like I said, but that doesn’t mean the move was necessarily the correct one. It’s okay to have the opinion “I wouldn’t have made that move”, because the Yankees are not ALWAYS right. They’re human, too.”

    Poster # 1:

    “And Igawa is the definition of “boneheaded, ridiculous mistake” why Wait?

    I am asking Wait her answer to this question. I know Igawa isn’t a forum favorite.

    Thank you.”


    “Because every scout almost universally disliked Igawa, because everybody who actually saw him pitch knew he was terrible, and because he wasn’t even on the radar of e=any other team but the Yankees.

    The Yankees are human. THEY MAKE MISTAKES. NOBODY’S PERFECT.”


    It’s like arguing with a wall.

    • whozat says:

      Dude, just walk away. That trisha woman is willfully ignorant, uninterested in evidence, extremely aggressive, and seems to use nothing except logical fallacies in her “arguments”.

      Oh, and she’s a lawyer. How wonderful for her clients.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

        She keeps asking me for Couting reports, then tld me notto shout.

        I’m trying to resist the urge to kill myself.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

          should be scouting, told, and not to.

          • Mike P says:

            Tell her to read about the madness of crowds, information asymetry and irrational expectations before coming back to you. Hopefully, it’ll take a while!

        • “She keeps asking me for Couting reports, then tld me notto shout.”

          Wow, she’s got you so unnerved you’re speaking in gibberish.

          I think you’re in love.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

            Maybe I would be if I’d met her, knew her last name, or wasn’t seriously pissed off.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

              I just posted this:

              Quoted directly from the Yankee Years (Written by Verducci):

              “Even before the Yankees were announced as having…the winning bid, an AL GM…said, “He’d better stay out of the AL.”

              “The Yankees fell in love with Igawa, valuing him higher than anybody else.

              “How was it possible they could bid nearly the same amount (as Matsuzaka) for Igawa who, though a strikeout champion in Japan, gave up too many home runs and walks, and rarely broke 90 MPH with his fastball?”

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                The next line of discussion:

                “Yeah, quoting from “The Yankee Years” definitely convinces me of the veracity of the statement.

                What a riot.”

                “So, I can only quote from the publications you okay now? Gotcha.”

                trisha, quoting some who made this statement with no sources backing him up (whozat already posted her name):

                ““Kei Igawa was considered as one of the top Japaneese pitchers at the time he was courted.”

                Thank you.”

                “So, DeSaint says something, it’s believed with nothing to back it up, but I need sources, and when I produce one, it’s ridiculed?”


                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Sometimes, you’re a dick.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  BTW, don’t take that comment too seriously. Just joking. :-)

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Am I coming on too strong for you?

                • JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

                  You realize, at the core of this, you’re arguing about metaphysics to someone with a God complex, right?

                  There’s some illiterate moron at TYU I tried to have a conversation with. He thought Jeter should receive a 7 (!) year deal for his next contract. I, and many others, mocked the statement for obvious reasons.

                  I figured, “OK, this guy has a 9th grade education (seriously, I’m not making this up), I’ll make my argument simple, humorous (or what I think is funny), and chock full of easy-to-understand analogies.” It did no good.

                  Now, I could waste my time responding to him again or I could say, fuck it. It’s just not worth it.

                  I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again: there’s no victory in arguing with the willfully ignorant.

                  [sidenote: I love you TYU guys, but some of your commenters are insane. I always feel like I have to be nice and put things delicately. It's an uncomfortable feeling. If I don't have to, let me know. I'll speak in more colorful tones.]

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  I’m aking the plunge: LoHud=gone forever.

                  I am never visiting the LoHud comments again. The people there are TOO STUPID.

                  Anyway, the idea is that she believes the Yankees are God. I disagree. That’s basically it.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:


                • JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

                  I put it up around the same plane as MLBTR, ESPN, Youtube comments.

                  The articles and news can be good, though. But PLEASE, DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS!

                • JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

                  You’re having a rough go at spelling tonight, aren’t you RRR?

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  I always do when I’m seriously pissed.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  As for the Igawa deal…At it’s heart, it was the Yankees offering too much money and too many years to a guy even the most optimistic scouts were saying had the ceiling of a fifth starter. Nobody else bid anywhere close to the Yankees, and that’s because even based on potential Igawa wasn’t anywhere near as valuable as the Yankees thought. This was a BAD MOVE.

                • JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

                  I’ve still yet to find a place other than RAB with top-notch commenters. I like going to iYankees, TYU and dropping by to check out the articles but find commenting there rather thankless as a whole.

                  Chris at iYankees generates some really good content, but there’s not a lot of activity going on there with the community, and the activity there is is rife with idiocy.

                  Chris, Matt, Moshe, Baker’s Man(“Artist” Steve) all put up a lot of great articles and insight. The quality of conversation is generally tolerable, but I find there are far too many B-Jobbers than there should be.

                  There are a few wise, interesting commenters, no doubt. But way too many logical fallacies and wandering minds for my liking.

                  I kind of feel bad; more intelligent discussion should be had when quality articles go up. Unfortunately, I don’t have the patience to argue with scores of people who govern their beliefs on narrative and personal feelings, and not on statistics, trends and scouting. Kudos to those who are willing to express the value of budgets, metrics, advanced stats, scouting reports, market forces and the overall business side—kudos to them for trying to show some the way. I’ve tried and just don’t have the stomach for it.

                  RAB is the only place where evidence, a critical eye, and logically valid arguments are the norm, and not a mere exception to the madness.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  I have to agree.

                  Speaking of Moshe he just popped up on lohud. We should see him soon hopefully.

      • Slugger27 says:

        trisha sounds like a stripper in a nightclubs name as much as mystique and aura

  7. Hughesus Christo says:

    Giants, anyone?

    I see Taylor Mays dropping down draft boards lately… anyone else think that’s a good pick? Giants could use an enforcer over the middle, and hopefully Phillips is your coverage safety next season.

  8. Evan says:

    Wow, Prust is a lucky man.

  9. AJ says:

    Can the argument be made that A-Rod is as good an overall player or better than Pujols? Based on defense, difficult position at SS and 3B, speed, higher ceiling with power (50+ three times, steroids non-withstanding), arm, etc? Just for thought.

    • AJ says:

      Obviously Pujols is the better offensive player and younger. But I’m talking about the whole package.

      • JGS says:

        Albert: Career 173 wRC+ with a 189 (2003, .462 wOBA), 188 (2008, .458), 184 (2009, .449)

        A-rod: Career 153 wRC+ with a 179 (2007, .449 wOBA), 177 (2005, .438), 169 (1996, .444)

        Pujols’ career low wRC+ is just one point less than A-rod’s average

        • bexarama says:

          does someone know if there’s somewhere where I can find the top wRC+ listed by year, all-time, etc.? I know it’s on Fangraphs, but I can’t find some easy list of the top wRC+ in 2009, 2008, 2007, etc.

    • Slugger27 says:

      pujols has him beat on offense and defense, and i dont think arm and speed can make up for that

      but if youre lookin at arods years at SS while with SEA and TEX, then u can certainly make that case… but not in 2010

    • pete says:

      I think A-Rod’s peak was, total-package-wise, about as good as you’re going to get from anyone, ever. Pujols is ridiculously consistent, and always better than everybody else, but he’s not Bondsian offensively. Right now or even whole career, I’d take pujols. But I’d take A-Rod’s best years, just on account of his being a defensive wizard, tremendous base stealer, and even better HR hitter (steroids, again, nws) than pujols. You may never see a SS again who is both a top-3 offensive player at any position, and a top-3 defensive player at his position.

  10. Slugger27 says:

    i love that the fangraphs home page still has the yankees win probability for game 6 on it, and that it hasnt left since that night

    even when nothing on the site has been updated, going there is never a waste because of this

  11. I want to kick something around for a piece I’m working on. It’s Called “Extra man on the bench or arm in the pen?”.

    Dave Cameron recently did a “Platoons and Bullpens” piece on Fangraphs where he discussed the value of the 25th man. Then Dave Pinto did a post called “Fewer pitchers” where he tossed out the idea of Joba AND Hughes in the pen, with Aceves/Gaudin as the 5th starter.

    But in building this roster, would you rather have an extra arm in the bullpen (as most teams do these days) or some guy with a huge platoon split that you could pinch hit with late in games?

  12. JMK, to answer your TYU question above, you don’t have to feel like you need to tip toe around anything. I have no idea what would have ever given you that thought. I LOVE getting a good debate going, both here and over there. Just keep it civil and stay on topic, nobody wants a thread to degenerate into liquid shit. But most sports fans love a good debate.

    • JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura says:

      Gotcha. I wrote more up above in response to RRR’s conundrum.

      I guess it’s just that it’s waaaaaaay less cutthroat over there and generally, the commenters just aren’t as wise as those here.

      No slight on you guys, of course. Just how I see it.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        Of course they aren’t. One thing that happens when commenting sections get as big as they do here- the better commenters begin to police the comments for idiocy. At a smaller site, you might find yourself and maybe one other smart dude against one idiot, which does not really give you a position of strength. Someone says Jeter on a 7 year deal here, and 30 comments instantly rip the guy. It is a powerful way to keep comment quality up.

        • Right, and lets not pretend this place doesn’t get infested with imbeciles from time to time. Wait until the Yanks lose 5 in a row and hang out in an RAB game thread. It gets pretty ugly. But as you said, the regulars do a pretty good job of policing.

      • Nah, none taken. Many of the people who post over here are bloggers in their own right, or are good enough posters to blog if they were so inclined. We get a fraction of the traffic RAB does, so I don’t expect the community to be as strong at this point.

        But our content is pretty solid, miles ahead of where it was a year or so ago, and I do think we’re one of the better fan blogs out there. At least of the ones I’ve seen. But RAB is still the reigning champ, and I’ve said that here a bazillion times.

        • Moshe Mandel says:

          Agreed. I’m quite proud of our content over the last few months. I think the must-have fanblogs are RAB, TYU, Pending Pinstripes, i-Yankees, IIATMS and Fack Youk. There are other good ones, but those are the ones where I think you will find original, unique content daily.

  13. DP says:

    Can anyone explain why the 1938 Yankees played 157 games (or at least why Gehrig and Crosetti were credited as such?)

  14. JobaJr says:

    Leta Go Yankees bumb bm nmh!!!!!!!

  15. bexarama says:


    In the case of Rodriguez, however, there is no gift wrap. He is fading to black because (as opposed to Griffey) the skills haven’t abandoned the man — the man has abandoned the skills. At 34 and preparing to return from the disabled list, Rodriguez is still one of the game’s two or three most-feared hitters. And yet, whether he plays for another season or another decade, Rodriguez is done. Finished. Kaput. Over. Gary Coleman.

    According to the material leaked from Selena Roberts’ new book, A-Rod: The Many Lives of Alex Rodriguez, he is not merely a liar, a fraud and an egoist, but a cheater of the first degree, whose remorseful “confession” during spring training was little more than a well-choreographed one-man interpretation of Justin Timberlake’s Cry Me a River. Turns out A-Rod might have been using steroids since high school, and that he was involved with HGH after becoming a Yankee. In other words, like Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds before him, the glowing awe that once accompanied Rodriguez has — poof! — vanished.

    Less than a year ago, people were not merely speculating how many career home runs he would hit (800? 850? 900? 950?), but also how his name atop the all-time list would return Aaron-esque decency to a record book poisoned by Bonds’ regrettable presence. Rodriguez was the Brad Pitt of baseball — the pretty boy with chops who could carry a big-budget adventure through the summer.

    a. Jeff Pearlman is a pretty darn good writer, but he is pretty frequently awful when asked to write about the Yankees.
    b. Pretty much everyone hated A-Rod *before* the steroid thing.
    c. Do I even need to get into the Selena Roberts book?
    d. hahahaha A-Rod’s done hahahaha.

    • AndrewYF says:


      His theory as to why A-Rod was batting .233 at one point during the season: he just flat-out stinks.

      Funny that he never wrote another article – period – on A-Rod.

      He might be a terrific writer, but to me, he’s just another dishonest, intellectually vapid journalist who can never admit that he’s just. plain. wrong.

      Why is it so hard for journalists to admit fault? They’re like 13 year olds, but no one’s holding their feet to the fire, so they’ve learned they can simply get away with it.

      • Slugger27 says:

        journalism of almost all kinds is dying…. theyre just trying to stay afloat

      • bexarama says:


        In other words, how can anyone with a human head actually attend, say, a Yankees-Royals or Yankees-Orioles or Yankees-Rays or Yankees-A’s or Yankees-Mariners or Yankees-Rangers or Yankees-Twins or Yankees-Anybody Except The Red Sox or Mets game and truly, strongly, lovingly, audibly root for the Yankees to win?

        Uh, because I was born about five minutes outside of the Bronx, my mom was a die-hard even through the sucky years and took me to Yankees games for as long as I can remember, and I’ve grown up loving the team. That could be how. It’s fandom. It’s not logical.

        • bexarama says:

          aaaand you guys already talked about this:
          Nice article, though

        • pistol pete says:

          I’m a Knick fan and a Ranger fan, that’s how it’s easy to root for the Yankees. Great franchise, great history, and frankly I don’t care how much they spend as long as they play by the rules and they do. In fact they subsidize many other franchises with revenue sharing and the luxury tax. Go Yanks, raise the best players and the ones you can’t raise go get, let’s repeat in 2010.

      • DP says:

        I know. I know. Shut up. Typical media idiot. Go back to college. Enough with the steroid talk. I’ve got it.

        Shoulda stopped right there.

  16. Big Juan says:

    I was having a discussion recently about the best way to evaluate a hitter. The guy I was talking to was positive that average was clearly the best way. I was arguing for OPS, because of it’s ability to account for not only the hit, but the quality of the hit, as well how frequently a player reaches base.

    For fun, I looked at the career leaders in OPS (http://www.baseball-reference......reer.shtml) and AVG (http://www.baseball-reference......reer.shtml). There are great hitters on both lists, but I think it’s fairly clear by this data that OPS is most representative of great hitting.

    Not that RABbi’s don’t know this, but I thought it was interesting.

  17. Hooray for eating a 24 oz. porterhouse for dinner. Yumtastic.

  18. Drew says:

    Anyone watching UFC 109?

    • I never got the appeal of UFC and just never got into it.

      • Tom Zig says:

        it’s wrestling…but REAL.

        I never got into it either, but I will watch it at a bar or a friend’s house if they order it on PPV.

      • Drew says:

        Eh, fighting will always have a huge niche in the world. In the past, boxing filled that niche, now that boxing is pretty much out of the picture, many people view UFC as the answer.

        There’s something about two dudes beating the shit out of each other that is appealing to a lot of people. IMO, UFC answers that bell.
        I’ve been watching for almost ten years now and love it.

        The quality of fighters can be lost if you don’t frequent the ppv cards. In many cases, these are world class professional athletes born and bred to fight. To call it entertaining is an understatement.

  19. DP says:

    I’m sure most people here have seen this but wow is this awesome…


    • bexarama says:

      I generally can’t stand ESPN, but damn can they put together one hell of a montage. That one’s amazing, and so’s this:

      I know what every baseball thing there is from/the significance of it, sad.

      • DP says:

        Hah, if you think that’s sad you are in the wrong place. There’s only about 3 or 4 of those highlights total I don’t recognize. I am lucky enough to have been at two: Barbaro and Boone(!!!!)

        • DP says:

          Also, THIS is the best sports montage ever:


        • bexarama says:

          Haha, well, I don’t really care about non-baseball sports other than football, honestly. VERY JEALOUS of the Boone thing ;_;

          Fun story: My dad is about 99% sports-ignorant, but in a random drawing at work, he won free tickets to Game 3, 4, and 5 of the 2001 World Series. AND HE TURNED THEM DOWN. Oh, and he let me know this when he called me the day after Game 7 to congratulate me on “the Yankees’ four-peat” because he’d fallen asleep after the Yankees had taken a 2-1 lead. Needless to say, this phone call made me rather upset.

          • DP says:

            My Boone story is somewhat similar (in the opposite way.) My dad’s straight off the boat Irish so the only “American” sport he really cares about is basketball. My brother and I are die-hard Yankees fans simply because him and my grandpa owned a bar and they basically had to show the games, so we caught the Yankee fandom from the patrons (though it was the early 90s- who knows why we chose the Yankees) Anyway, at his work, it was basically the same set up as it is for buying playoff tickets (you go for Yankees home game 1, 2, 3, 4- which is real game 1, 2, 6, 7) Obviously everyone went for the first two, so he little competition for, and got the game 7 tickets. Needless to say, the best sporting event I have, and probably ever will, go to.

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