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	<title>Comments on: Sergio Mitre and the value of a roster spot</title>
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		<title>By: White Mike from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/sergio-mitre-and-the-value-of-a-roster-spot-23617/#comment-770714</link>
		<dc:creator>White Mike from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO, It wouldn&#039;t hurt Edwar to eat some steak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO, It wouldn&#8217;t hurt Edwar to eat some steak.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/sergio-mitre-and-the-value-of-a-roster-spot-23617/#comment-770705</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reading the comments above yours can often help you avoid making embarrassingly boversimplified statements like this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reading the comments above yours can often help you avoid making embarrassingly boversimplified statements like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Zig</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/sergio-mitre-and-the-value-of-a-roster-spot-23617/#comment-770701</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we add the Gyroball to http://www.knowyourmeme.com/ ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we add the Gyroball to <a href="http://www.knowyourmeme.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.knowyourmeme.com/</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter (O.G.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter (O.G.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even putting his name in the mix for the 5th starter spot seems like an insult to hughes, joba, ace and gaudin. 

Mitre just isn&#039;t good. No reason to sugar coat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even putting his name in the mix for the 5th starter spot seems like an insult to hughes, joba, ace and gaudin. </p>
<p>Mitre just isn&#8217;t good. No reason to sugar coat it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Dick Willie</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/sergio-mitre-and-the-value-of-a-roster-spot-23617/#comment-770699</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Dick Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mexican gangster is always stretched out.  

No problemo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mexican gangster is always stretched out.  </p>
<p>No problemo.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s theoretically possible to get more options. I can remember Cashman commenting in the past that he was exploring that with someone, but I can&#039;t remember the case.

More importantly though, players are extremely unlikely to voluntarily sign up for more options. Options are really only beneficial to players that aren&#039;t ready for the majors yet, as it lets them get their development time in while giving them higher priority to make the majors when there&#039;s an opening. When you get to the borderline guys like Mitre, they&#039;re generally better served not having options. It forces the Yankees to either keep him in the majors, or release him, at which point he&#039;d most likely sign on with another team and stay in the majors.

His contract is guaranteed, so he&#039;s getting paid the same if he&#039;s in the minors or if he&#039;s released. Time spent in the majors accumulates service time, which gets him closer to full free agency and gets him increased retirement benefits (which is huge for a fringe player). He&#039;s much better off playing in the majors on a crappy team than sitting in AAA hoping to get another shot in the majors or a World Series ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s theoretically possible to get more options. I can remember Cashman commenting in the past that he was exploring that with someone, but I can&#8217;t remember the case.</p>
<p>More importantly though, players are extremely unlikely to voluntarily sign up for more options. Options are really only beneficial to players that aren&#8217;t ready for the majors yet, as it lets them get their development time in while giving them higher priority to make the majors when there&#8217;s an opening. When you get to the borderline guys like Mitre, they&#8217;re generally better served not having options. It forces the Yankees to either keep him in the majors, or release him, at which point he&#8217;d most likely sign on with another team and stay in the majors.</p>
<p>His contract is guaranteed, so he&#8217;s getting paid the same if he&#8217;s in the minors or if he&#8217;s released. Time spent in the majors accumulates service time, which gets him closer to full free agency and gets him increased retirement benefits (which is huge for a fringe player). He&#8217;s much better off playing in the majors on a crappy team than sitting in AAA hoping to get another shot in the majors or a World Series ring.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Dick Willie</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/sergio-mitre-and-the-value-of-a-roster-spot-23617/#comment-770695</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Dick Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This.

The Yankees have so many options, that if Mitre is seeing significant time, it means he&#039;s earning it.

If he sucks, well, the Yankees have so many options that Sergio pours himself a tall glass of Pinstripe DFA Ale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This.</p>
<p>The Yankees have so many options, that if Mitre is seeing significant time, it means he&#8217;s earning it.</p>
<p>If he sucks, well, the Yankees have so many options that Sergio pours himself a tall glass of Pinstripe DFA Ale.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well let&#039;s count them:

93 mph fastball
88 mph fastball
cutter
slider
worse slider
curve
worse curve
changeup
other changeup

he throws a lot of pitches. that they all suck doesn&#039;t mean he doesn&#039;t throw them. calling 6 of them &quot;plus&quot; is a bit of a stretch though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well let&#8217;s count them:</p>
<p>93 mph fastball<br />
88 mph fastball<br />
cutter<br />
slider<br />
worse slider<br />
curve<br />
worse curve<br />
changeup<br />
other changeup</p>
<p>he throws a lot of pitches. that they all suck doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t throw them. calling 6 of them &#8220;plus&#8221; is a bit of a stretch though</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/confused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/confused</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the one thing is that if it is only a spot start we&#039;re talking about, then having Aceves, Mitre, and Gaudin all in the same pen means you can probably get at least 7 innings without going to your &quot;true relievers&quot; without overextending anyone or anything. If somebody goes down long-term with injury, though, then it&#039;s a different story. That&#039;s why I want Hughes starting in AAA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one thing is that if it is only a spot start we&#8217;re talking about, then having Aceves, Mitre, and Gaudin all in the same pen means you can probably get at least 7 innings without going to your &#8220;true relievers&#8221; without overextending anyone or anything. If somebody goes down long-term with injury, though, then it&#8217;s a different story. That&#8217;s why I want Hughes starting in AAA.</p>
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