Valentine’s Day Open Thread


There’s nothing to say about Valentine’s Day that hasn’t already been said. Some people adore it, some people hate it. It depresses some and excites others. Whatever. While Valentine’s Day happens but once a year, our open threads happen every night. I think that makes them a lot better.

If you want to use the open thread to rant about a current or former lover, go ahead. If you wan to profess your love for one of our esteemed commenters, this would be the time to do it. But really, anything goes. Enjoy it, folks.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Thomas A. Anderson says:


    Ranger fan gets completely shut down doing a jumbotron proposal.

    How does one recover from that? Oof.

  2. mustang says:

    Much love to the game of baseball it brings hate, pain, joy, sadness, happiness, anger and relief. In many way it’s not much different then a relationship.

  3. Wolfman was thoroughly disappointing.

  4. Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

    Percy Jackson was really good if you didn’t read the book and okay if you did.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Only okay? Did they change a lot from the book? The book was pretty good though.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

        It wasn’t even close to the book. Annabeth’s personality was never developed, there were no prophecies, there was no Ares…very, very different.

        I was pleasantly surprised by Grover though. They portrayed him more accurately than I thought they would.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          So Annabeth is portrayed only as an annoying bitch? And they take out a pretty big thing from the book from the prophecies. Those play a big role in each book. And they cut off a villain in Ares.


          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

            Annabeth is portrayed as this tough warrior chick. She is not an artichect and doesn’t really impress much with her ultra-Athena wisdom. We just have to go by the movie’s word that, despite doing nothing to prove it, she’s very wise.

            Oh, and instead of the characters starting at 12 years old, they’re 17.

  5. Is there any phrase in the world sweeter than “spring training starts this week”?

    I mean, besides “Yankees win!” and “due to the inclement weather, school has been closed”?

  6. Is it just me or is TNT’s broadcast all sorts of fucked up?

  7. bexarama says:

    Me: Oh, ESPN has something about baseball, I should watch it… nah, don’t turn it on, they’re just gonna be talking about how awesome Boston’s offseason was and it’ll just make me angry. (I turn it on anyway, because I am dumb.)
    ESPN, within two minutes of turning it on: Boston had the best offseason! They’ve passed the Yankees, best rotation and defense ever!

  8. Usher’s lipsynching is embarrassingly obvious.

  9. JobaWockeeZ says:

    JabbaWockeeZ better make another appearance this All Star Game. Or some other awesome crew.

  10. simplegirlsimpletastes says:

    So…im a simple girl with simple tastes, who loves sports, yet here I am alone on Valentine’s Day….

  11. W.W.J.M.D. says:

    You know what really grinds my gears? When someone talks trash about sports or how their favorite team is going to win, and then when they are wrong, they’re say, “oh, i dont really follow it that much, im just a HUGE fan.”

  12. Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:


  13. bexarama says:

    Oh noooo they just said the Yankees wouldn’t have won the World Series without missed calls :(

    • bexarama says:

      And that was Bobby Valentine. Who’s normally a non-idiot.

    • JGS says:

      ugh–which one, the one on Mauer or the one where Posada got tagged off third against the Angels

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

      I heard it in context, and he was 100% right about everything. His point was not to bash the Yankees (not that he was wrong, it’s impossible to predict what would have happened if, say, Mauer’s ball was a double, not that it matters now), but to point out that “the human element” the goal of umpires is to get the orrect call and if the don’t, they’re not doing their job and if we could we should use better means.

      • bexarama says:

        I was sort of spacing out, I admit, and I do think the umpiring is awful. But didn’t he say something like, “If not for the bad calls, the Yankees might not have won the World Series?” Which I think is patently untrue, and I think most would agree with me.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

          No, it was not untrue. What if the Twins had one that game, because Mauer’s ball was called a double? We have no idea what would have happened.

          It doesn’t matter, but it’s still true.

          • bexarama says:

            What if the Twins had one that game, because Mauer’s ball was called a double?

            If Mauer’s on second, Teixeira’s not holding him for the next batter, and he gets the ball. The chances of scoring with bases loaded, nobody out is higher than the chance of scoring for a guy on second, nobody out.

            Of course, the “what-if” game is silly, because maybe, if Mauer gets a double, the pitcher is shaken up and gives up a home run the next batter. Or maybe he goes “oh crap, focus” and gets the next three guys out.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

              Fallacy of the predetermined outcome; we have no idea what would have happened. All we know is that what did happen is that we won the game, and if something changed, like that Mauer double call, we have no idea if we still would have won.

              • bexarama says:

                Yeah, I think that’s what I was trying to say in the bottom paragraph. Here’s what we do know about the situation:

                1. Damn, the Twins got screwed on that call.
                2. The Twins still managed to get into a situation with a higher chance of scoring than “guy on second, nobody out” and couldn’t score.

                I am not a huge believer in momentum, though. Dunno about you.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Neither am I; that doesn’t change the fact that we won the game and if circumstances changed we have no gurantee that we would have.

            • JGS says:

              the next batter was Jason Kubel, who was 1-14 with 9 strikeouts for the series. That at bat was his one hit. Given fresh circumstances, he probably strikes out

              but who knows? More importantly, who cares?

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                1. That wasn’t the point of Valentine’s comment.

                2. It’s fallacay of the predetermined outcome. Could he have gotten a single? Yes. Hit a HR? Yes. Struck out? Yes.

                The thing is the best possible overall outcoome DID occur (we won the game), and if any of the circumstances change we have no idea if that outcome would be repeated.

                • JGS says:

                  but to say the Yankees wouldn’t have won it all without bad calls is stupid–they never even faced an elimination game. Sure, he likely said “might not have won” instead of “would not have won”, but had the calls all been right, the Phillies might have all forgotten to show up and forfeited.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  He was peaking very fast and merely trying to make a point, which he did very well. When asked again, I’m sure he’d change it to might have won. You’re all reading waaaay too much into this.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Oooh, peaking should be speaking. My bad.

                • bexarama says:

                  To be fair, because I started it by making that comment, I’m really really tired, not entirely paying attention, and should probably be asleep, but I can’t fall asleep aaaargh.

                  It IS dumb that he said we had to use instant replay more, which I agree with, then complained about A-Rod’s home run off of Hamels, which was only called a home run because of instant replay.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Yeah, you’re right, it was pretty stupid to talk about A-Rod’s HR off Hamels. Messed up on that one.

      • Cue another replay discussion…

        Seriously, though, replay needs to be improved/more widely utilized. There’s a very simple way to do it, too.

        • Woops, I forgot to say what my replay proposal is. Anyway, every play but balls and strikes is reviewable. An extra umpire, or independent replay official, is in the TV booth or literally anywhere in the stadium with a TV. He’s wearing a headset that allows him to communicate with the crew chief. As soon as he sees a play is wrong, he contacts the crew chief and the call is overturned.

    • Riddering says:

      Valentine was on fire with his plea for expanding technology in baseball.

      That being said, I don’t think Mauer’s double would have kept the Yanks from the ALCS.

  14. Jose says:

    I was going to say that Valentine’s day is the most worthless holiday, but then I remembered Columbus Day.

    Why do people need a set day to be romantic? The true romantics know how to wow their significant other on any day of the year.

    • Columbus Day is pretty worthless.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

        Day off of work=not worthless.

        • Jose says:

          I have bad news, that could begin to change in the coming years.


        • Essentially celebrating the beginning of genocide = worthless.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

            You see it as celebrating th beginning of genocide; I see it as celebrating a day off of work.

            Besides, I look at it as Leif Eriksson day, the TRUE first European to discover America who also has a national holiday on this date.

            • You see it as celebrating th beginning of genocide; I see it as celebrating a day off of work.

              You’re not celebrating a day off from work, though. Because of a “celebration”, you get the day off from work and there’s a big difference.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                Whatever. It’s still a day off of work. If they called it Adolf Hitler day I’d still take the day off of work if they allowed me too. That doesn’t mean I’m actually celebrating the day.

                • I get what you mean; still, there needs to be a closer examination of why we celebrate holidays. On days like Veterans’ Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, MLK Day, etc., schools should be in session for half-days that are intensely focused on the reason for celebrating said holiday.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  It wouldn’t happen. Parents of said children would revolt.

                • VO says:

                  That’s not a terrible idea, but how much could they really teach. After a certain point of schooling it will be pointless because they have already learned it.

                • Mo forbid their children actually learn anything about the day they’re celebrating.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  What VO said too.

                • Fair enough, VO. But, if there’s enough curricular variance for regular subjects, there could be for holiday subjects. Not everything about each holiday is appropriate for all ages (I doubt we’d be teaching 1st graders about the mustard gas attacks of WWI), so different things could/would come at different times.

                • VO says:

                  That’s true but, most of it is taught in the curriculum as is. I’m not against the idea itself, but I just don’t really think it would work in the broader picture. Like you said how long could you talk to first graders about WW1, there is only so much you can say to a certain age group.

                • Word. It all comes back to one thing: Columbus Day is fucking worthless.

                • VO says:

                  Well, if you really want to get into that. The argument could be brought up that if Columbus hadn’t landed in America none of us could be here right now.

                • I just think it’s not worth making a big deal out of a) “discovering” a land that already had a bunch of people in it and b) the eventual/systematic destruction of said peoples.

                  That argument could be made, but it’s also unlikely that, after 500+ years, no one would’ve found the American continents.

                • Jose says:

                  He said Columbus Day is worthless not what Columbus did was worthless.

                  The day itself is because it celebrates a controversial figure who lead to death of millions of Native Americans. Not to mention he wasn’t the first to come to America. The day is arbitrarily set, it rotates based on a Monday, not an actual date.

                  We would still be here right now even if Columbus had never done that. It would just have occurred differently.

                • VO says:

                  I’m not saying I disagree with you. I’m just stating an argument that could be made. But overall the day is fairly worthless because, as Jose said it isn’t even on the actual day.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  Fallacy of the predetermined outcome again. I’m not arguing for or against the character of Columbus, but would WE have been here? Who knows? People probably would have been here, though controlled by who, with what government, and what people (Asian? African? European? Middle Eastern?) we have no idea.

                  So whether WE-that is, us, who are writing on this blog-whether we would exist is impossible to figure out. The world would have been different-that much is certain.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                  I myslf celebrate Leif Eriksson day. He was the REAL first European to discover America.

                • So whether WE-that is, us, who are writing on this blog-whether we would exist is impossible to figure out. The world would have been different-that much is certain

                  I agree with this, but you’ve got to admit it’s pretty damn unlikely that no Europeans, Asians, or Africans would’ve ventured West/East to find the Americas.

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:


                  But alternate history is extraordinarily complex. History can be altered on mere whims. The Haitians won their revolution thanks to a freak icestorm that made Napoleon unable to send out another fleet of ships to attack the island. I’m not going to attempt to figure out what WOULD have happened had Columbus not dsicovered the Bahamas. Far too difficult.

                • I had a conversation about something like that w/
                  Stryker once; I forget what it was, though.

  15. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Ugh They should have brought JabbaWockeeZ back. Better than Shakira…

  16. ticktock says:

    anyone know if there will ever be another NHL game for the psp?

  17. DP says:

    Is anyone else watching the Winter Olympics?

    /shows self out

  18. ticktock says:


    yeah i was there. Greatest show ever

  19. Jake H says:

    baseball tonight is the worst show. Yankees got worst this offseason? They aren’t going to be as good offensively? How do these guys have jobs is beyond me.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

      Yankees got better this offseason, but they probably will be a little bit worse offensively. They’ll still be the best in the league though.

      • Mike Pop says:

        I think the overall numbers won’t be as good as last year. But I think everyone also has to take into account that Damon and Matsui weren’t very likely to replicate their 2009 numbers and Johnson/Grandy are likely to equally produce or produce even better numbers than the former two in 2010.

        holy run on sentence.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

          We’re talking about the offense being worse than they were last year, not worse than they would have been with Matsui and Damon on the team this year. I think Cash has made all the right moves, but I still don’t think our offense will be quite as good unless we get some killer years from several players.

      • Jake H says:

        I think that they will be around the same offensively with better pitching. Damon and matsui had great years but I think the odds of them repeating those performances were 5% at best.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

          I agree, but I’m also not sure that Grandy and Johnson will produce the value offensively that Matsui and Damon did LAST year. Remember, we’re comparing this year’s offense to last year’s offense, not this year’s offense to this year’s offense with Damon and Matsui instead of Grandy and Johnson.

          • Jake H says:

            True but also keep in mind that they will have A-Rod for a full season. No Cody Ransom or Pena playing the first 6 weeks.

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

              We’ll have A-Rod for a full season, but Jorge will probably decline, maybe even significantly, and Jeter will probably decline slightly, just because he had such a fucking awesome year last year.

          • It’s likely that both Johnson and Granderson improve this year, considering their new offensive environment and new home park.

            Johnson probably won’t hit 25+ home runs (a la Matsui), but he’ll get on base a lot and with Tex/A-Rod behind him, that’s very valuable. The CF offense gets an instant boost from Granderson, who could very well see his power improve by being in a new park.

            • Mike Pop says:

              I’m interested to see if Granderson does actually keep the CF job. Gardner is better fit for CF. I really don’t care either way, but it’s something to keep an eye on.

              • The numbers say Gardy in CF and Grandy in LF, but I won’t min if they keep it as is. If you switch them, and Gardner doesn’t stick, you’ve presented with a potential (albeit small) problem. And though it’d probably be small, it’d be a problem nonetheless.

            • Jake H says:

              09 WAR stats
              Damon 3.0
              Granderson 3.4
              Nick 2.4
              Matsui 2.4

              So if they do the same for each players it is a .4 increase.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

                We’re talking offense. WAR takes defense into account, and I agree the defense will improve, and the pitching, and the team overall.

      • They’re downgrading in LF offensively, but improving in CF and it’s basically a wash at DH. They may get a little regression from Jeter and/or Posada, but I doubt it’s anything too drastic.

    • bexarama says:

      One thing I’ll say about ESPN: at least they didn’t say the addition of Vazquez made the team worse like SNY did.

  20. bexarama says:

    ESPN bein’ B-Jobbers.

    • Shocking. It will never end. Even if they disagree, the fact that they can’t see that it makes no logical sense to put Chamberlain back into the bullpen after ’09 makes my head spin.

      • bexarama says:

        And they were praising what he did in the bullpen during the playoffs. What, like giving up that game-tying home run to Pedro freaking Feliz? (Yeah, I know I’m boversimplifying that. It’s a SSS. I gotta boversimplify here.)

        • Yeah, based on the playoffs, neither Hughes nor Joba looked great in the bullpen.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

            I disagree; bexerama even admitted it was boversimplification. Take out that 1 HR, and Joba looked quite good. Actually, he looked quite good even WITH the HR.

            • He did give up 9 hits in 5.4 innings. His control was great, though: 1 walk and 7 strikeouts.

            • bexarama says:

              Yeah, I was pretty much boversimplifying on purpose, just to mock ESPN. I was impressed that he came right back to strike out the next guy after that HR. That doesn’t mean “PUT HIM IN THE BULLPEN!!!” though. To me, and this may be my confirmation bias speaking, he doesn’t seem to use his pitches economically. I hope he can learn to do that better, and he’s very young so obviously he’s got a good amount of time to learn how to do that. If he does, he’ll be great.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Were they saying to put Hughes in the rotation over Joba?

    • VO says:

      Even if Joba makes the hall of fame as a starter, at his induction ceremony they will be saying “just imagine how good he could have been out of the pen.”

  21. I texted Mike A earlier, because I was out, but I told him some very, very disturbing news. Joba and Josh Beckett were hanging out together today at the race. Somehow I bet their conversation included what a douche Youkilis is.

  22. ultimate913 says:

    I’m looking at the single season records for games played in a season and the leader is Maury Wills with 165 games played in 1962. What the ****? Weren’t there always 162 games in a season? I can see 163, with a playoff game at the end but how the **** is 165 possible?

  23. Mo's Savant says:

    Heh, check out what someone did to Jason Bay’s Wikipedia page.


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