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		<title>By: Morning Bits: Damon, Affleck/Damon, PECOTA &#124; The iYankees Blog - A New York Yankees Blog</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-781061</link>
		<dc:creator>Morning Bits: Damon, Affleck/Damon, PECOTA &#124; The iYankees Blog - A New York Yankees Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kabak over at RAB takes a two-part look &#8211; 1, 2 - at PECOTA&#8217;s projections for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: YankeesVine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Around the Yankees Galaxy - 2/22/10</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780971</link>
		<dc:creator>YankeesVine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Around the Yankees Galaxy - 2/22/10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a good look at what we might be able to expect from Yankees hitters and pitchers in 2010.&#160; The thing that I like about PECOTA is that they offer several [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a good look at what we might be able to expect from Yankees hitters and pitchers in 2010.&nbsp; The thing that I like about PECOTA is that they offer several [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What the Good Book says: Yankee pitchers &#124; River Avenue Blues</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780383</link>
		<dc:creator>What the Good Book says: Yankee pitchers &#124; River Avenue Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the arrival of Baseball Prospectus 2010 at my doorstep on Friday, I spent some time yesterday look at the Yankee hitters and how PECOTA projects them to perform this season. While these are rough estimates of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the arrival of Baseball Prospectus 2010 at my doorstep on Friday, I spent some time yesterday look at the Yankee hitters and how PECOTA projects them to perform this season. While these are rough estimates of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780276</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP&#039;s PECOTA did a poor job on many of the Yankee hitters in 2009, for example, missing badly on Jeter, Posada, Cano, Matsui and others.  They were dead on with A-Rod, projecting him at .282/30HR/98RBIs, but that was before he had the hip surgery, which means A-Rod matched their projection, even though he had a near career-ending injury.  

We need to look no further than Jeter in 2008 to find and area where PECOTA does not excel.  As we know, Jeter had an off year for him in 2008, chiefly caused by a couple of non-age-related injuries, including being hit on the hand by a pitch that substantially hurt his hiting in the early season.  PECOTA for 2009 projected off his 2008 numbers and his age, projecting a further decline.  Not a good assumption.  

I think we&#039;ll see the same break down in PECOTA projections for A-Rod is 2010 as we saw with Jeter in 2009.  Next year A-Rod should be the healthiest he&#039;s been since 2007, as his hip started bothering him in late July 2008, impacting his hitting the last two months, and of course the surgery limiting him in 2009.  I wouldn&#039;t project a return to 2007, but a .300/.400/.600 season is more likely than what PECOTA will project for him this upcoming season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BP&#8217;s PECOTA did a poor job on many of the Yankee hitters in 2009, for example, missing badly on Jeter, Posada, Cano, Matsui and others.  They were dead on with A-Rod, projecting him at .282/30HR/98RBIs, but that was before he had the hip surgery, which means A-Rod matched their projection, even though he had a near career-ending injury.  </p>
<p>We need to look no further than Jeter in 2008 to find and area where PECOTA does not excel.  As we know, Jeter had an off year for him in 2008, chiefly caused by a couple of non-age-related injuries, including being hit on the hand by a pitch that substantially hurt his hiting in the early season.  PECOTA for 2009 projected off his 2008 numbers and his age, projecting a further decline.  Not a good assumption.  </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll see the same break down in PECOTA projections for A-Rod is 2010 as we saw with Jeter in 2009.  Next year A-Rod should be the healthiest he&#8217;s been since 2007, as his hip started bothering him in late July 2008, impacting his hitting the last two months, and of course the surgery limiting him in 2009.  I wouldn&#8217;t project a return to 2007, but a .300/.400/.600 season is more likely than what PECOTA will project for him this upcoming season.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780271</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing 2009&#039;s OPS+ to career OPS+ is a flawed approach. The best predictor of how a player will perform in any given season is his most recent season.  Teixeira, as one example, is now at the peak, posting OPS+&#039;s of 149, 152 and 149 the past three seasons. His career OPS+ is not relevant since most players career OPS+ will be lower than their most recent season(s), that is until they hit their later years and they are in decline.

There&#039;s a possibility that a group of players, such as Cano, A-Rod, Granderson and Winn, will exceed their 2009 OPS+s for a variety of reasons, while others, such as Swisher, Tex and Johnson maintain, and others, such as Jeter and Posada, post declines, but probably not significant declines. Jeter is a highly consistent hitter, who cranks out 120+ seasons with ease when healthy. My guess is his OPS+ comes in somewhere between his career 121 and his 2009 132.

There is almost assuredly someone in the group of Yankee hitters who will have a bust year due to injury or age compared to his 2009 season.  Perhaps Posada, perhaps someone else.  There is also somebody in here who will have a bust-out year compared to 2009, perhaps a Cano, who is entering his age 27 year; or an A-Rod, who will be healthy for the first time since 2007; or Granderson, who had a down year last season, but is still just 29.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing 2009&#8242;s OPS+ to career OPS+ is a flawed approach. The best predictor of how a player will perform in any given season is his most recent season.  Teixeira, as one example, is now at the peak, posting OPS+&#8217;s of 149, 152 and 149 the past three seasons. His career OPS+ is not relevant since most players career OPS+ will be lower than their most recent season(s), that is until they hit their later years and they are in decline.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a possibility that a group of players, such as Cano, A-Rod, Granderson and Winn, will exceed their 2009 OPS+s for a variety of reasons, while others, such as Swisher, Tex and Johnson maintain, and others, such as Jeter and Posada, post declines, but probably not significant declines. Jeter is a highly consistent hitter, who cranks out 120+ seasons with ease when healthy. My guess is his OPS+ comes in somewhere between his career 121 and his 2009 132.</p>
<p>There is almost assuredly someone in the group of Yankee hitters who will have a bust year due to injury or age compared to his 2009 season.  Perhaps Posada, perhaps someone else.  There is also somebody in here who will have a bust-out year compared to 2009, perhaps a Cano, who is entering his age 27 year; or an A-Rod, who will be healthy for the first time since 2007; or Granderson, who had a down year last season, but is still just 29.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780234</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It annoys the fuck out of me that smart people are still claiming that Granderson will need a platoon mate. In his career he&#039;s looking at a .731 OPS outside of Comerica against lefties. The problem was Comerica, not lefties. And he&#039;s going to crush the ball in Yankee Stadium. Just watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It annoys the fuck out of me that smart people are still claiming that Granderson will need a platoon mate. In his career he&#8217;s looking at a .731 OPS outside of Comerica against lefties. The problem was Comerica, not lefties. And he&#8217;s going to crush the ball in Yankee Stadium. Just watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780154</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said in another thread about 20 minutes ago, the Yankees have Derek Jeter, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Robinson Cano, Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson and Jorge Poasda. If you think the pennant race is going to hing on &lt;strong&gt;needing&lt;/strong&gt; another bat, I don&#039;t know what to tell you. That&#039;s just not what&#039;s going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said in another thread about 20 minutes ago, the Yankees have Derek Jeter, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Robinson Cano, Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson and Jorge Poasda. If you think the pennant race is going to hing on <strong>needing</strong> another bat, I don&#8217;t know what to tell you. That&#8217;s just not what&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780150</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically it means the Yanks will be looking for a bat in July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically it means the Yanks will be looking for a bat in July.</p>
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		<title>By: steve (different one)</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780069</link>
		<dc:creator>steve (different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they have Hoffman pegged for .261/.332/.399, then why would it be a &quot;curious&quot; selection?   wouldn&#039;t everyone be thrilled with that from a rookie?   you&#039;d have a cheap 4th OFer for the next 3-4 years, all for a guy you were probably going to non-tender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they have Hoffman pegged for .261/.332/.399, then why would it be a &#8220;curious&#8221; selection?   wouldn&#8217;t everyone be thrilled with that from a rookie?   you&#8217;d have a cheap 4th OFer for the next 3-4 years, all for a guy you were probably going to non-tender.</p>
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		<title>By: bexarama</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/what-the-good-book-says-24129/#comment-780063</link>
		<dc:creator>bexarama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though, 2009 Yankees: 131 OPS+

We were scarier. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though, 2009 Yankees: 131 OPS+</p>
<p>We were scarier. <img src='http://riveraveblues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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