Comments on: Heyman: Jeter could ask for six http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 17:59:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: bexarama http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792699 bexarama Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:38:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792699 Also, <i>The other was a mess from day 1 in NY and probably because of the guilt he had knowing that his regular season accomplishments weren’t real.</i> A-Rod's numbers with the Yankees: .300/.401/.567/.968, 152 OPS+. He averages 44 HR per 162 games. If that's a man who is a mess because of his guilt, I'll take nine men who are messes because of their guilt. Also,

The other was a mess from day 1 in NY
and probably because of the guilt he had knowing
that his regular season accomplishments weren’t
real.

A-Rod’s numbers with the Yankees:
.300/.401/.567/.968, 152 OPS+. He averages 44 HR per 162 games. If that’s a man who is a mess because of his guilt, I’ll take nine men who are messes because of their guilt.

]]> By: bexarama http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792698 bexarama Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:36:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792698 <i>In 2005, Mariano Rivera should have won the MVP. That doesn’t get you just a little bit?</i> Mariano Rivera is likely my favorite or second favorite player in the history of the game. He has never deserved an MVP (or even a Cy Young); the closest he ever got to deserving one was 1996. He's a relief pitcher. He's the best relief pitcher in the history of the game, but he's still a relief pitcher that, in a very busy year for him, will only affect 80 or so innings over the course of a season. If you disqualify A-Rod, there are still tons of players I'd choose as MVP over Mo for that year. <i>Arod has one guilt-free Oct, and all is forgiven?</i> There wasn't really anything to forgive because I always enjoyed having one of the greatest players in the history of the game, steroids or not, on my favorite team. In 2005, Mariano Rivera should have won the MVP.
That doesn’t get you just a little bit?
Mariano Rivera is likely my favorite or second favorite player in the history of the game. He has never deserved an MVP (or even a Cy Young); the closest he ever got to deserving one was 1996. He’s a relief pitcher. He’s the best relief pitcher in the history of the game, but he’s still a relief pitcher that, in a very busy year for him, will only affect 80 or so innings over the course of a season. If you disqualify A-Rod, there are still tons of players I’d choose as MVP over Mo for that year.

Arod has one guilt-free Oct, and all is forgiven?
There wasn’t really anything to forgive because I always enjoyed having one of the greatest players in the history of the game, steroids or not, on my favorite team.

]]> By: Snakes on the mother effin plane http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792423 Snakes on the mother effin plane Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:26:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792423 "B) No, it DID actually take a stroke of negotiational genius to sign Tex, CC, and AJ; I don’t think Steinbrenner could have/would have signed all three of them himself. There were numerous overlapping entities (Red Sox, Angels, Braves, Giants, Dodgers, Orioles, Nationals) that all had significant interest in one or two of those three players. Cashman negotiated with the three of them and extended offers to the three of them in an order that kept the markets for all three of them alive simultaneously but kept the Yankees in the lead for all three players. That wasn’t easy." Mmmmm yeah not so much. Paying the most is always the easiest and it's something we do quite well thankyouverymuch. “B) No, it DID actually take a stroke of negotiational genius to sign Tex, CC, and AJ; I don’t think Steinbrenner could have/would have signed all three of them himself. There were numerous overlapping entities (Red Sox, Angels, Braves, Giants, Dodgers, Orioles, Nationals) that all had significant interest in one or two of those three players. Cashman negotiated with the three of them and extended offers to the three of them in an order that kept the markets for all three of them alive simultaneously but kept the Yankees in the lead for all three players. That wasn’t easy.”

Mmmmm yeah not so much. Paying the most is always the easiest and it’s something we do quite well thankyouverymuch.

]]> By: Snakes on the mother effin plane http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792421 Snakes on the mother effin plane Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:24:22 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792421 Yup I think someone forgot to follow Gretzky's career to the end... Yup I think someone forgot to follow Gretzky’s career to the end…

]]> By: Snakes on the mother effin plane http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792411 Snakes on the mother effin plane Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:19:15 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792411 True. They end up foul in the stands the other way. True. They end up foul in the stands the other way.

]]> By: cr1 http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792396 cr1 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:08:47 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792396 Just to be boring and refer to the actual post, where was the put-down of Rodriguez in the Heyman squib? Just to be boring and refer to the actual post, where was the put-down of Rodriguez in the Heyman squib?

]]> By: Doug http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792271 Doug Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:11:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792271 Here's what you do: he wants 6 years? he gets $15M per; 5 years? $17M per; and so. So he can pick from: 6/90 5/85 4/76 3/63 2/46 1/25 Here’s what you do: he wants 6 years? he gets $15M per; 5 years? $17M per; and so.

So he can pick from:
6/90
5/85
4/76
3/63
2/46
1/25

]]> By: Jake http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792251 Jake Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:28:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792251 No, I'm not. And I think you know that. Steroids can't give you balls. Actually, they make them smaller. That's really the difference between the two players. One has always been ready. The other was a mess from day 1 in NY and probably because of the guilt he had knowing that his regular season accomplishments weren't real. In 2005, Mariano Rivera should have won the MVP. That doesn't get you just a little bit? Arod has one guilt-free Oct, and all is forgiven? I'd love to do business with this crowd. No, I’m not. And I think you know that.

Steroids can’t give you balls.
Actually, they make them smaller.

That’s really the difference between the two
players. One has always been ready.

The other was a mess from day 1 in NY
and probably because of the guilt he had knowing
that his regular season accomplishments weren’t
real.

In 2005, Mariano Rivera should have won the MVP.
That doesn’t get you just a little bit?

Arod has one guilt-free Oct, and all is forgiven?
I’d love to do business with this crowd.

]]> By: TLVP http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792206 TLVP Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:16:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792206 This is getting out of hand. I'm a huge Jeter fan, but to suggest that he should get 6 years is just bad business. Frankly anything more than 4 years is absurd. He'll be a 40 year old SS who doesn't hit for power. Iconic or not - such a player doesn't get a 6 year contract, and nor does he get $25m/y. At best he keeps his current salary. If he want's six years give him 90/6 and tell him the alternative is 80/4. The Yankees would not look cheap if they offered him that, and he would look greedy and stupid if he rejected it. This is getting out of hand. I’m a huge Jeter fan, but to suggest that he should get 6 years is just bad business. Frankly anything more than 4 years is absurd. He’ll be a 40 year old SS who doesn’t hit for power. Iconic or not – such a player doesn’t get a 6 year contract, and nor does he get $25m/y. At best he keeps his current salary.

If he want’s six years give him 90/6 and tell him the alternative is 80/4.

The Yankees would not look cheap if they offered him that, and he would look greedy and stupid if he rejected it.

]]> By: Jake http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/heyman-jeter-could-ask-for-six-24605/#comment-792124 Jake Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:01:42 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=24605#comment-792124 Rose never gambled while he played, BUT you have a damn good point. Rose was also one the biggest asses to ever play the game. Still, we have not seen anything like him since. If you were old enough to have seen him, you'd agree that he changed the like no other. Arod isn't getting in the Hall, and not because he doesn't have my vote. If Big Mac doesn't get voted in because he juiced, then neither does Arod. Same story. Rose never gambled while he played,
BUT you have a damn good point.

Rose was also one the biggest asses to
ever play the game. Still, we have not seen
anything like him since.

If you were old enough to have seen him,
you’d agree that he changed the like no other.

Arod isn’t getting in the Hall, and not because
he doesn’t have my vote. If Big Mac
doesn’t get voted in because he juiced,
then neither does Arod.

Same story.

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