Link dump: Dead money, regressing starters, standing room
BySome lunch time links while we make you wait another two hours for something on the fifth starter situation.
The Mets are shopping Gary Matthews Jr.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Teams that are paying money to other teams
At FanGraphs, Steve Sommer takes a look at teams that are sending 10 percent or more of their overall payroll to other teams. The Blue Jays lead the way at $16 million, or 23 percent of their payroll. In pure dollar terms, though, the Dodgers are paying out the most, $16.6 million. You can check out the whole list here. The Yankees are only shelling out $4.5 million in that regard, a mere 2 percent of overall payroll.
The year-after effect for young starters
At ESPN’s TMI blog, Tango examines young pitchers who break out and then regress the following year. Clayton Kershaw, Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, and Felix Hernandez qualify this year, and Tango warns that they could regress just like their predecessors. Check out the accompanying table for more recent examples. Also keep this in mind when you think about Joba Chamberlain. He pitched excellently in the rotation in 2008, but pitched markedly worse in 2009. To that end, Zack Greinke had a 5.80 ERA in the season following his breakout, in which he posted a 3.97 ERA.
Jeff Sullivan at Lookout landing takes on the question and makes many fine points. To my mind, this is the best way to argue with stats. To categorically dismiss them is foolish. We can learn plenty by a player’s results. We can learn a lot more by thinking, in specific terms, what the stat might not be telling us.
Everything you need to know about Standing Room Only tickets
Ross at NYY Stadium Insider writes at length about the Standing Room Only tickets the Yankees have offered for the 2010 season. If you’re thinking about getting these slightly cheaper tickets, definitely read over his post.
Other links
I found a lot worth reading, so…
- If you watch nothing else today, watch this Ichiro catch.
- Dan McCutchen wins the 5th starter role for Pirates. Who says the Yankees can’t develop pitching?
- Jason Giambi knows how to party. Looks like he’s got plenty of that $120 million left over.
- Can a bracelet improve your performance? I think J.C. Romero put it best. “If you think it helps you, it probably helps you.”
- Friend of RAB Jonah Keri did a podcast with Bill Simmons. Definitely worth the listen.
- If you have an iPod Touch or iPhone, check out Batting Goggles. It has tons of information on each batter. This includes, most prominently, a breakdown of how they fare in each section of the strike zone.
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I’m having a brain fart right now. Who are the Yankees paying for? Melky?
$5K for Melky, $4M for the Kei-man. It’s dead money, meaning money paid to players not the 40-man. Not necessary just money paid to player on other teams.
Gotcha. Thanks Mike.
Good to see Julio Lugo still haunting Theo.
It says only 3.35 million for the Red Sox. I thought they owe Lugo his full salary.
I think it’s because Milwaukee is paying Bill Hall.
There’s a big difference between the Sox continuing to pay Lugo and us continuing to pay Igawa, however.
There’s a possibility (remote, sure, but still extant) that Igawa can still contribute to our ballclub. Lugo cannot.
Listing them both as “dead money” seems fair, but listing them both as “money paid to players on other teams’ rosters” as FG does is wrong.
Agreed. It is a little misleading to say the least.
Plus Kei indirectly helps the by teaching young pitchers how to handle yourself in the face of continued adversity and disappointment (I kid).
Lugo helps them by not playing there.
Same as Igawa helps the Yanks
Lugo hit .284/.352/.367 for the Sox before they cut him. That is significantly better than any of his replacements did, and not much worse than Scutaro will do
will this happen to Gaudin if no team takes him off waivers?
According to the way FG does their calculations, yes. But I agree with TSJC – the way they do the calculations is misleading.
(investigates)
The Fangraphs number of 4.5M we’re paying to “other teams” is bullshit (or at least, not properly stated).
They’re sourcing Cot’s Contracts. Check out how Cots generated it’s number:
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....60040.html
“Former players” and “Players playing for other teams” and “Players no longer on the 40-man” are not equitable concepts.
Our number shouldn’t be 4.5M, it should be 0.5M. Kei Igawa is not a “former player”, nor is he playing for another organization.
Or maybe they’re secretly letting us know that the Yankees pulled a Beatles circa 1966 and that the guy playing in Scranton really isn’t Kei Igawa, but a look-alike and pitch-alike replacement.
/the walrus’d
so so so because last year was a regression year does this mean Joba is gonna post like a 3.01 ERA this year?!?!?
Also, your commentary on the first item is a thing of beauty. Good thing Reyes is coming back…
From the Mets/Matthews Sherman article:
That’s just sad. F-Mart can’t play CF? Already?
Man, that team is chronically screwed.
It seems like some kind of sick joke. He has been playing there in the Mets system since he was 17. With Beltran out they should definitely stick him in there and see what comes out.
Whats funny about the Mets trying to trade Gary Mathews Jr.?
They aren’t paying him anything… The Angels had to swallow most of that contract. The Mets could simply release him if they want…
Because they picked him up with plans to use him during the regular season. It’s hilarious how inept their management is right now.
I’m already anticipating the Mets trading him to the Reds for Brandon Arroyo, who promptly puts up a 6.40 ERA, 9-15 W/L record.
Meanwhile, Pagan crashes into Francoeur in the outfield on Opening Day, Beltran-Cameron style, knocking them both out for the year, and Beltran re-tweaks his hammy in his final minor league tuneups and doesn’t return until August. Left with zero OF depth (since they dealt away Matthews), they bring back Carlos Delgado, shift Murphy to RF, and trade F-Mart to the White Sox for Juan Pierre.
Classic Mettastrophe.
Corollary: Arroyo is then signed to a 3 years/$36M deal after the year.
Which Minaya would see as a steal. You look at pitchers like CC/Lackey/Burnett getting these 5-7 year deals, and I pull off Brandon Arroyo for only 3 years, that’s shrewd.
Brandon Arroyo?
Is this some inside joke I’m missing?
Don’t know if this is the first mention of Brandon, but:
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-703076
Tim McCarver made that mistake a ton during the 2004 playoffs.
http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/w.....m_McCarver
is it wrong that if it says “sonsofsamhorn” I basically put it in a DO NOT CLICK ON THIS mental folder?
That damn Sam Horn!
I think A-Rod called him that, too, after the collision/swipe. hehe
http://m.naplesnews.com/news/2.....d_calling/
Pagan knocking out Francoeur would probably HELP the Mets
Heh.
Because…
1. They’re on the hook for $2M of his salary, and chances are they’ll have to eat at least a portion of it to trade him.
2. They traded a useful reliever in Brian Stokes to get him.
3. They probably won’t get someone as good as Stokes in return.
Other than the innings which they can surely find elsewhere*, how is Brian Stokes that valuable? In 2009: 4.63 FIP (3.97 ERA, 104 ERA+), 1.564 WHIP, and an ugly 1.18 K/BB in relief (1.51 career). He has been worth -0.3 WAR over his career, maxing out at 0.4. Last year he was worth -0.2. That 2009 FIP and WHIP are better than his career average, and he’s 29 so it’s not like he’s still developing.
* I hope. Who knows, with the Mets system.
and he’s 29 so it’s not like he’s still developing.
Poorly stated on my part. He may still be developing pitches and control and whatnot. But in baseball years, he is running out of time a bit.
They’re not getting anything better than Brian Stokes in return and they need bullpen arms. So instead they’re going to panic and probably keep Mejia in the bullpen,
Krod- closer
Escobar- injured
Feliciano- lefty specialist
Igarashi- unproven
Parnell- throws hard, still potential
Green- righty specialist
Calero- minor league deal, apparently no other team trusted his shoulder
Exactly. The joke is really on the Angels. Not on the Mets. The Mets traded for him to be a 4th OF and maybe step in for CF if Pagan fell on his face.
Given that the Mets didn’t get a deal for Matthews, how is he more valuable now….
he isnt.
Joe’s comment underneath the GMJ article may be my favorite thing EVAH.
“It’s just some rubber and that little disc,” Manuel said. “I don’t feel anything, no. But you never know. When I was a hitting coach, if a guy thought he was having success because of something, I didn’t say anything. Let him think it.”
Hmmm…no?
I know that a lot of people would say that its fine if it doesn’t hurt anyone, but a little less superstition and “fuzzy” thinking would be nice.
/Apply directly to the forehead’d
Damnnnn… that catch. Wow, too bad it was just during ST.
As some of you may know, Yankee farmhand Kyle Anson retired a few weeks ago. Wat we don’t know is why. Well, it’s not because Romine, Montero, Cervelli, Rivera and Pilittere are ahead of him on the depth charts. It’s not because of his career .706 OPS.
It’s because he hates Tony Franklin’s guts.
http://www.trentonian.com/arti.....670770.txt
How about he was 26 and wasn’t even a mediocre Double A player. He should have just retired and said nothing instead of burning his Yankee bridges. Dumb.
So is the Yankees farm dead now, I mean Anson was the best 10th catcher ever!!!
Thank you so much for the piece on the “Standing Room Only tickets”. I purchased standing room only tickets online for one of the Mets games and I had no idea what the set-up was there was no information on it at the Yankees site.
Again another “wonderful” job by the Yankees tickets office on keeping their fans informed and satisfy with their purchase.
Great help thank you again.
It’s unbelievable that we have to go to blogs to find out about this kind of information.
pretty sure that catch by ichiro was set up by a bad jump… looks cool but really not a great play
Bad jumps turning into good looking plays=Why people think Tacoby is a good CF
The Yankees are only shelling out $4.5 million in that regard, a mere 2 percent of overall payroll.
Heh…using their logic I’m surprised we don’t have to include luxury tax too…
Oh…. Sports .. lol.
Nice link farm you got there .
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