Open Thread: Gere’d up
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With Richard Gere in full uniform as the honorary manager today, the Yankees took care of business and punished a few Double-A pitchers the Tigers sacrificed to the baseball gods. The Yanks had drawn eight walks by the time the rain really picked up and I stopped watching in the fourth. Nick Johnson drew two of those walks in a six run first inning, and Robbie Cano did a great job out of the fifth spot with a knock and a few steaks. Here’s the box score.
Anyway, here’s your open thread for the night. Most of the RAB Fantasy Baseball Leagues are drafting this evening, so feel free to mention your picks in the comments if you’re drafting tonight. I’ll have all my picks on Twitter, so you can follow my madness there. Otherwise you got the Devils and the end of Baylor-Duke to keep you occupied. Enjoy.
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Apparently according to Cashmoney the future of Joba hasn’t been decided yet when discussing the opnions of Eppler.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy
As a gut reaction to all this I was even debating if Epstein and his crew are actually deserving of the hype they get.
That’s not surprising coming from Cashman. He always says things like ‘so much can happen between now and then’ and that’s what he was saying there. But two of the guys who may have the most input, the pitching coach and the director of pro scouts, both made it pretty clear today where they stand. A GM will usually rely on his guys to give him a recommendation, and then make the final decision himself.
Maybe saying “the debate is over” is going too far, but it still looks like Joba will stay in the pen, unless things dramatically change.
Maybe saying “the debate is over” is going too far, but it still looks like Joba will stay in the pen, unless things dramatically change.
He’ll stay in the pen indefinitely in 2010. Not sure about 2011.
Yeah, you can draw up scenarios where it happens:
-Cliff Lee gets badly hurt and Andy retires
-Hughes bombs out as a starter
-Vasquez is bad here and Andy retires
I’m sure people can think of some others as well. All possible, not sure how likely they are. Put it this way, if everyone pitches to the back of their baseball card or thereabouts, he’s in the bullpen.
Let’s say Hughes has a 2009 Joba season. Perhaps better but not significantly. He built up innings so he’s good for around 200 and so should Joba.
Andy retires. Javy is re-upped. Do you go for Lee or let Joba start? They have to resign Mo and Jeter as well. Plus if Gardner sucks it up there’s Werth and Crawford out there.
Honestly Joba starting really helps this team.
Sigh formatting fail.
I go for Lee as long as he’s healthy. Joba isn’t a consideration one way or the other. I’ll worry about having too many pitchers instead of not enough.
Well it depends on how much Javy costs. If you are giving Vazuqez 3+ years and 13+M, I cant see them having 4 pitchers on the wrong side of 30 signed for at least 13M and at least another 3 years.
Steve, about your statement the debate is over, I wonder what you thought of this reading of the tea leaves: Cashman has been fighting a group inside the org about Joba, which is something that we know already. As he struggles at the end of 2009 and in ST, that group grows, and when the choice comes to Joba-Hughes, Cashman finally gives in and agrees that it should be Hughes. The B-Jobbers in the org believe they have won and the debate is over, but Cashman is more in “wait and see” mode, considering some of the circumstances you outlined (Hughes failing, the free agents option or Javy/Andy not working out). Fair?
Possible, even plausible, but Brian is always in wait and see mode. He should be doing Lotto commercials, because his answer to everything is “Hey, you never know”.
so I found this, and I know it’s from a while ago:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4755518
I just thought it was really interesting. What players would you pick?
Bexy, caption that photo for me.
I couldn’t think of anything funny ;_; I thought your comment was really damn good tbh.
Damn Blue Devils.
LaceDarius Dunn, Ekpe Udoh, and Tweety Carter were fast becoming my favorite new trio.
Baylor forgot about silly stuff like boxing out and checking your man on shots.
They had this game. Too bad.
I have an unhealthy hatred for everything Duke, except Krzyewski, which I find odd. Never the less, I was rooting hard for Baylor..
Go Mountaineers.
*Krzyzewski
Should’ve just gone with Coach k.
I find it difficult to ever root for a backward place like West Virginia.
I also find it odd that many Yankee fans are such unabashed Duke haters.
I also find it odd that many Yankee fans are such unabashed Duke haters.
This, I can’t root for the scrappy underdog in any other sport, heh.
Why is that odd?
Both powerful teams with great resources, history and prestige. Absolutely hated, though they share many of the same qualities.
Using that logic, most Yankee fans would be Steeler and Laker fans.
Yeah, I don’t get any sort of natural Duke-Yankees connection. They’re not geographically close, there’s no NYC-NC pipelines…
I didn’t say anything about being fans; frankly your comparison doesn’t hold up to the point I made. I just made mentioned of hatred. I just think it’s strange that Yankee fans would have this odd complex that other prestigious teams in other sports are somehow worthy of such hate. If there were a natural rivalry with a local team or a geographic point of merit, I could understand it. But there isn’t. They just fall lockstep into the national consensus that these teams should be disliked. And I don’t know why.
I say this as someone with a twin sister going to UNC Chapel Hill.
For the record, I never said I hated Duke. I just fell in love with Baylor, that’s all.
I don’t particularly hate them because of their success. It’s not like I hate UNC. TBH, I can’t explain why I dislike them so much. Just something about their players that rubs me the wrong way.
Fair enough. Honestly, I think it’s as simple as a ton of their players coming off as unlikeable. You could say the same for Coach K. I also know a ton of awful bandwagon Duke fans, which contributes to my hatred.
Are there that many? I mean, I went to Maryland so I have an excuse, and obviously all Yankee fans I meet hate Duke as well, but I never noticed it before college.
I went to MD also….Class of 80
English major, right?
No economics
when you ignore zoubeks travels every time he grabbed a rebound, things happen.
So the Padres have Garland as their #1 starter.
I don’t think I’m ever gonna complain about Joba in the pen ever again.
True enough its good to be rich.
That’s silly. Just because other teams have a shit rotation doesn’t mean you should forget about the squandering of resources and the potential damage of the team’s long-term goals. The team you follow, that is.
Do you say “Oh, Mexico has a 19.7% unemployment rate. I’m never going to complain about my financial/job situation ever again”? Of course not. It’s irrelevant, even if it adds some small sense of perspective.
Eh, I’m a proponent of always keeping things in perspective. Yah, it’s an issue, but it could be worse.
doesn’t mean you should forget about the squandering of resources and the potential damage of the team’s long-term goals.
I love how internet basement dwellers think they know more then the GM, pitching coach, manager and the scouts.
Definitely. I don’t know why you people think Kei Igawa is a bad signing. Cashman and crew got him and they all know more then you meaning the signing was a great one.
You don’t get ticketed when you park in the handicapped spots, do you?
IPK is Arizona’s #3.
That fact just proves how valuable starting pitchers and to waste a possibility at developing one more foolhardy.
I have all the confidence in the world in the Yankees’ rotation this year. But in looking at the young talent resigning with their teams (Hernandez, Cain, Greinke) and the pitching coming up through the Rays organization my confidence for the future takes a dip.
I knocked over an entire pan of sizzling mushrooms/onions, whoooooooops
I just finished dinner. Penne pasta with artichoke hearts, stewed tomatos, cici beans and a nice cream sauce. Yummy. I haven’t made myself a nice meal like that in forever.
ugh that sounds delicious.
Thankfully I had another pan and most of the stuff from the one I knocked over didn’t land on the floor. So I have a bunch for the week. Yay.
bexy as long as you didnt get burnt.
I did not, happy times. And thank you.
your very welcome.
Was on vacation; I’ve WAITED SUCH A LONG TIME TO SAT THIS:
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
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B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
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B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
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B JOBBERS WON; JOBA IN THE PEN!
Now, who was right?
Say*
Now, who was right?
We still were. The B-Jobbers were wrong, the team also being wrong does not make B-Jobbers right.
Furthermore, Joba going to the bullpen doesn’t mean shit. B-Jobbers were wrong because they valued the emotional over the analytical, the simple over the complex, the irrational to the rational.
B-Jobbers are wrong because they think Joba the elite bullpen pitcher is worth more to the team than Joba the average starter, and that’s incorrect.
Eric, why take the bait? He’s just being an ass.
Exactly. O:S in effect.
Sorry, distracted. Fantasy drafting/multitasking.
How’s your draft looking so far?
So far:
C-Yadier Molina (9)
1B-Michael Cuddyer (OF eligible) (6)
2B-
SS-Asdrubal Cabrera (SS eligible) (5)
3B-Pablo Sandoval (1B eligible) (2)
OF-Carl Crawford (1)
OF-Adam Lind (4)
OF-Michael Bourn (8)
UTIL-
SP-Yovani Gallardo (3)
SP-James Shields (7)
RP-
RP-
P-Randy Wells (10)
P-
P-
From what I’ve seen so far, I think Axisa’s got you beat. Still, not bad. We’ll see how the rest unfolds.
Love the Cabrera pick. Dude’s really underrated. Same with Bourn. Actually, your whole outfield could rack a lot of points.
We still were. The B-Jobbers were wrong, the team also being wrong does not make B-Jobbers right.
No, you were wrong. I love the fact that you guys who thought he would start have egg on your face.
We still were? LOL. He is in the pen, you are WRONG.
I wouldn’t be this strong about it, but the ” egg on your face” thing is kind of right. Regardless the guy is in the pen when a lot people thought he wouldn’t be and being put there by the leader (Cashman) of the “the rational, analytical, complex” movement is funny.
How close to Mo like does a reliever have to be to be more valuable than the average starter?
pretty much equal.
that’s the thing: by Fangraphs WAR, Mo, however awesome he is, is generally not as valuable as an average SP
It is hard to believe that it is hard to replace an average starter because by definition they are average. While replacing Mo would seem to be near impossible.
I hate to say this because Mariano might be my favorite Yankee ever, but he is so valuable only because he’s done what he’s done for like fifteen years (and in the postseason). From individual year to individual year, other closers do what he does, and most closers do close to what he does. Replacing him is not impossible.
(Whenever I have to be all objective about Mo like this, my heart kind of throws up a little.)
There won’t be another Mo for a generation. At earliest.
That said, there will be another closer for the Yankees. However, the pool of relief pitchers is a lot wider, the likelihood of one fluking into a great season is a lot higher, the pool of free agents is a lot more fluid, the commitments required to land them are shorter, and the contracts commanded by them are smaller.
League-average starters cost a lot of money on the free agent market and teams are locking them up earlier and earlier. Jason Marquis got 2/15 this offseason, and he’s a mediocre starting pitcher in the NL. You can get a real high-end reliever for that money.
Bottom line, solid performance over 200 innings just helps the team win a LOT more games than stellar performance in 60.
It wasn’t so much about who would be right as what was the right thing to do.
And that’s all I’m gonna say because I have decided I will not comment on Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes unless it is to talk about their 2010 performances because fruuuuustraaaation
O:S
No need to be an ass about it.
+1
And until now most so call B-Jobbers have been very cool about it.
http://morganensberg.wordpress.....tors-away/
Really good read from ex-Yanks Morgan Ensberg. It was linked on THT this week.
BTW-Don’t let the title throw you, it’s just an attention grabber. The piece is thoughtful and worthwhile.
His entire blog is really fantastic. I like it a lot. Really insightful.
Fantastic article.
Alan Horne tore his rotator cuff and he’s out for the year. Too bad for him.
Yeah. Just holding hope for Chris Garcia at this point.
Why? We have other high ceiling arms to get excited about. Brackman looked good this spring, Z-Mac is almost ready, Melancon is ready, and Jose Ramirez was a breakout candidate last year. Plus, someone will take a big step forward that were not even considering. We may even see Betances later this season.
I think the context is clearly the always-injured-been-in-the-system-for-four-plus-years guys that I’m holding hope for, the other being Chris Garcia. Not sure why you seem critical of the statement. It’s not like my statement was “Alan Horne and Chris Garcia are the only pitching prospects worth even checking in on.”
I’m as bullish as anyone regarding Brackman, but let’s not read too much into his Spring. Z-Mac, while a nice arm in the upper minors, doesn’t profile as more than a back-end arm in the rotation. That’s important, no doubt. But we’re not talking a Hughes or Joba-type player. We’re more in IPK territory.
Melancon is a reliever. His impact will always be limited; that’s the nature of his position. Jose Ramirez, while an exciting prospect, is 19 and has YEARS to go. Again, let’s temper our expectations.
Betances will be one to watch, no doubt.
Chris Garcia has more talent than anyone in the minors not named Andrew Brackman in terms of his “stuff”. And he’s in the high minors. If he can stay out of the doctor’s office, he could legitimately make a huge impact in the rotation. He’s a guy worth holding out hope for.
Gotcha. Personally, I’m hoping they move Garcia to the bullpen. He just hasn’t held up as a starter.
Yeah, the question now is not about talent or ability, but durability. It’s more specifically, what’s better for his arm—pitching every 5th day in a regimented routine or more sporadically but less taxing in terms of “mileage”.
I’d like to see them give him 2010 as the final year as a starter and if there are injuries, that’s it.
Still, that’s playing with fire. The ‘pen might be safer.
I don’t know enough about biomechanics or physiology to say which is the best option.
Some doctors will say relieving is more taxing on the arm. But small power pitchers are put in the bullpen routinely, because starting is thought to put too much torque on their body.
In any case, the starting thing hasn’t worked out for Garcia. With his stuff, he could be fast-tracked to the bigs if he switches to the bullpen. But I know that they want guys to start in the minors who they view as relievers long term for development purposes. Trouble is, if he can’t stay on the field he can’t develop. I’d switch him ASAP.
Yeah, it’s a tricky spot. Sounds like it could make for a good blog post, Artisteve. Hint, hint.
Hahaha! Thanks, but I leave the prospects up to my buddy EJ. Feel free to steal it.
Word. I think I will. I’ll try to find some articles and books on pitching mechanics and injury.
Sigh.
He’s done for . . . forever. He hasn’t pitched much since being drafted in 04. He had the one good year in 07, and other than that it’s been one DL trip after another.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....orne.shtml
Had TJ twice, and there have always been whispers about his conditioning. He’s the type of pitcher the Yanks wouldn’t draft anymore, or at least wouldn’t waste a good pick on.
+1.
Wow.
I hear he made this sacrifice so Christian Garcia can be healthy.
Seriously, that really sucks for Horne. I was looking forward to seeing him in the Bronx.
Matt Cain was just signed to a three year, 27 million dollar extension.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....nsion.html
One less free agent option come 2012.
One
less free agentmore trade option come 2012.Fixed that for ya.
I’m not sure about that. Who would the Yanks trade to SF? The Giants are poised to contend within the next couple of years, and I don’t think they would trade their second best pitcher unless they were really far out of the race.
I’m just messing around.
Pass on Cain. Doesn’t strike out a ton. Meh career BB rate. Unsustainable LOB percentage. He’s a good pitcher but I don’t want him in the AL East.
Though at this point if we can straight up trade Joba for him I might like that. Since developing is pretty much a weak side for the Yanks.
it is a weak side for all contending teams, especially those who contend every year
it is a weak side for all contending teams, especially those who contend every year
Was curious, so I took a look at the 2009 playoff teams. How many SPs did each wholly develop who played a valuable role in their 2009 regular season?
BOS (2): Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz
LAD (2): Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley
PHI (2.5): Cole Hamels, J.A. Happ, Brett Myers(?)
LAA (4): Jered Weaver, John Lackey, Ervin Santana, Joe Saunders
MIN (4): Scott Baker, Nick Blackburn, Kevin Slowey, Brian Duensing
COL (2): Ubaldo Jimenez, Aaron Cook
NYY (1): Joba Chamberlain
STL (0): [Wainwright started with Braves]
Having fun in my 20-team draft, but we’re seriously going to be scraping the barrel here in a fee rounds
‘Gere’d Up’? uhhhhh I gots ‘Mike’d Up’ copyrighted, bozo. Yous will be hearin from mah lawyahs.
…on the fan.
How unbearable have you’ve been when it was decided Joba is going to teh almighty eighth inning?
Duh Yankees finally put dah Jobber where he belongs.
I know some of you were disappointed in the content of Life last week, but to me it’s pretty sick.
As an avid fisherman I’m really looking forward to the second episode tonight.
I definitely was disappointed in the content of my life last week.
Thank you, and don’t forget to tip your waitress!
Drew, what do you fish for? Fresh or saltwater?
Bass man here.
Saltwater only. Everything from yellowfin to fluke.
Ah. I prefer largemouth bass, though I occasionally go for stripers, fluke, and bluefish in the salt.
I got Tex in the first round (12th/14 picks) and The Justin in the second round. I’m happy thus far.
The Justin in the second?
Wow. He went 18th in mine. (I had the 19th pick
)
My first ever fantasy team with the 20th pick (The RAB Championship League
C: Matt Wieters
1B: Jose Lopez
2B: Martin Prado
3B: Chase Headley
SS: Elvis Andrus
OF: Matt Holliday
OF: Grady Sizemore
OF: Rajai Davis
Util: James Loney
SP: Justin Verlander
SP: Josh Johnson
RP: Scott Downs
RP: Mike Gonzalez
P: Ian Kennedy
P: Barry Zito
P: Joel Pineiro
BN: Rafael Betancourt
BN: Ian Desmond
BN: C.J. Wilson
BN: Brandon League
BN: Ronald Belisario
BN: Lyle Overbay
My first time so I just gave it my all. The relief pitchers were picked late. My bench and starters will be tinkered with but if anyone has comments on the team overall, that would be helpful.
“It appears the Yankees are about to engage in a bidding war for another highly touted Latin free agent, this one 15-year-old Mexican pitcher Luis Heredia. Heredia, a 6-4, 190-pound righthander reputed to have four plus pitches — fastball, slider, curve and changeup — drew a rash of scouts recently, including the evaluators from Yankees, Dodgers, Rangers, Mariners and Blue Jays, who most recently posted the winning bid for Cuban defector Adeiny Hechevarria for what sources said was $6.5 million for the shortstop. The bidding for Heredia will be a little different in that his rights are owned by the Veracruz team in the Mexican League. A signing date of July 2, which is within the required 45 days of Heredia’s 16th birthday, has been set.”
New York Daily News
Interesting stuff here.
The hell? A 6’4 15 year old? He’s almost a foot taller than me in the same age!
No way…
Yankees appear to have the inside track too since their Mexican scout ran the Mexican league that the player is playing in. He is suppose to have a lot of ties there.
I don’t want to imagine how this kid will grow when he goes further into puberty…
Anyways I’m always for any good IFA’s to replenish the farm so why not?
I agree.
6’4 190.. 15 years old.
Holy shit.
Okay, here’s the team I got, w/round number:
C–Weiters (8)
1B–Tex (1)
2B–Cano (3)
3B–Chipper (5)
SS–Yunel (7)
OF–The Justin (2)
OF–Dunn (6)
OF–C. Gonzalez (11)
UTIL–Nolan Reimold (13)
UTIL–C. Quinten (16)
BN–Swisher (18)
BN–J. Hairston (22, yay super sub)
SP–Carpenter (4)
SP–Jered Weaver (9)
SP–Brett Anderson (10)
SP–Oswalt (14)
SP–Jonathan Sanchez (15)
SP–Lilly-hammer (19)
SP–Laptop Thief (21)
SP–I.P.K. (23)
RP–F. Cordero (12)
RP–M. Gonzalez (17)
I was pick 12 for odd rounds, pick 3 for even rounds.
Only a 14 person league?
Yeah, it’s not an RAB league.
Oh and I got Arroyo in the 20th round.
Is this team not as good as I thought it was? It’s not standoutish anywhere, but it’s solid all around. Thoughts?
Here’s how I fared as The Greenies of the RAB 140 in The RAB Baseball League Two™
C: Carlos Ruiz
1B: Kendry Morales
2B: Ben Zobrist
3B: Alex Rodriguez
SS: Ryan Theriot
OF: Torii Hunter
OF: Jason Kubel
OF: Franklin Gutierrez
Util: Magglio Ordonez
BN: Lastings Milledge
BN: Kaz Matsui
BN: Francisco Cervelli
SP: Josh Beckett
SP: Randy Wells
RP: Andrew Bailey
RP: Netali Feliz
P: Mark Buehrle
P: Andy Pettitte
P: Wade Davis
BN: Ricky Romero
BN: Brandon Lyon
BN: Vincente Padilla
I can’t complain. These leagues are insanely deep.
That’s pretty good, considering how deep the league is.
I’m happy with it. Offensively I’m good on HR/BA and should be cool with more capricious stats like runs/RBIs.
Pitching is dependable. Should have the Ws and be about average in ERA/Ks/Whips. Saves who ever really knows?
I’m in your league (Morales inWonderland) – and I like your team.
I like my team as well, I’m heavy on pitching with Felix, Wainwright, Garza and Josh Johnson but short on hitting (Adrian Gonzalez and then nobody).
First time playing, so if anyone has suggestions I’d love some help. Should I look to move one of my top 3 starters for an elite bat? Or sit put and hope to work the (very very thin) waivers and find some sleepers?
You’re the bastard who took Zito right before I was! HAH I can’t get over how deep the league is, it makes me say crazy things like that.
I’m looking at your team now. You have a damn solid rotation, I haven’t checked out anyone else but that is hard to top.
Yeah I had the back-to-back picks and most of the hitters were gone by the time my second time around so I went hard for pitchers. Unfortunately my hitting is quite shallow.
Yo, Jesus, Mo and Joe Dimaggio here
Good luck to you, and you should have accepted my deal, lol!
Hey, I stand by what I said–gimme a closer and we’ll talk =)
So yes to you’d deal Teixeira if I work a closer into the deal?
For Johnson AND a Closer, I might. Might. It’d be hard to give up my first overall pick, and my main power guy.
RAB League # 3, 10th pick
C – Joe Mauer (1)
1b- Aubrey Huff (14)
2b- Rickie Weeks (6)
SS- Jimmy Rollins (2)
3b- Mark Teahan(10)
OF-Nelson Cruz (4)
OF-Jay Bruce (8)
OF-Rajai Davis (11)
Util- Adam Kennedy (15)
Be-Xavier Nady (16)
Be-Orlando Hudson (17)
Be- Chris Getz (21)
SP- Chris Carpenter (3)
SP- Carlos Zambrano (9)
RP- Jonathon Broxton (5)
RP- Brian Wilson (7)
P- Tim Hudson (12)
P- Ted Lilly (13)
P- Octavio Dotel (18)
Be- Nick Blackburn (19)
Be- Latroy Hawkins (20)
Be- Rafael Betancourt (22)
Not the best, but not too bad, I hope.
Your OF is pretty good, and your relief guys are solid.
i don’t know about you but I feel like Rollins is an overdraft. He hasn’t been too good lately and if you count BA and OBP, he is pretty bad in those categories.
Maybe I am wrong though
Remember, though, there were 20 people in this league.
i realize that but at 30, maybe there was someone better. I don’t get to see their draft so I don’t know for sure, just surmising.
A 20 team draft is crazy. By like round 9, I am like going through the scrap heap and by round 17, it is just crazy. Lot of fun though and my team is fairly strong and I had the 20th pick which was annoying cause I got like two picks and then waited for forty picks and then went again.
RAB league the same as Evilist Empire
Mark Teixeira
Matt Wieters
Andre Eithier
Rajai Davis
Colby Rasmus
Ian Stewart
Adrian Beltre
Miguel Tejada
Dexter Fowler
Akinori Iwamura
Ben Francisco
Delmon Young
Jamey Carroll
Dan Haren
Wandy Rodriguez
Stephen Strasburg
Matt Palmer
John Lannan
David Robertson
Kenshin Kawakami
Garret Andersen
Casey Kotchman
Make sure you scavenge the waivers for saves!
Actually, there are no waivers. Salvage them from FA is what I meant.
Most importantly, i have teh Jesus!
For a 20-team league, that’s a damn good team.
Light on pitching though.
I’m glad you approve. And yeah, I know my pitching’s an issue, which is the exact opposite of what it usually is.
Premier League™
C Geovany Soto (9)
1B Kendry Morales (2)
2B Aaron Hill (3)
3B Mark DeRosa (8)
SS Yunel Escobar (7)
OF Ryan Braun (1)
OF Adam Dunn(4)
OF Adam Jones (5)
Util Drew Stubbs (14)
SP Jered Weaver (6)
SP Kevin Slowey (10)
RP Leo Núñez (13)
RP Jim Johnson (21)
P David Price (11)
P Johnny Cueto (12)
P Derek Lowe (15)
Bench Jeff Francoeur (16)
Bench Aaron Rowand (17)
Bench Jarrod Saltalamacchia (22)
Bench Joe Saunders (18)
Bench Madison Bumgarner (19)
Bench Freddy Sánchez (20)
CentWAR Centaur™ of The RAB Premier League™
1. (16) Carl Crawford
2. (25) Pablo Sandoval
3. (56) Yovani Gallardo
4. (65) Adam Lind
5. (96) Asdrubal Cabrera
6. (105) Michael Cuddyer
7. (136) James Shields
8. (145) Michael Bourn
9. (176) Yadier Molina
10. (185) Randy Wells
11. (216) Frank Francisco
12. (225) Maicer Izturis
13. (256) Rafael Furcal
14. (265) Octavio Dotel
15. (296) Justin Smoak
16. (305) Ian Kennedy
17. (336) Fausto Carmona
18. (345) Jeremy Hellickson
19. (376) Jeff Francis
20. (385) Kelly Johnson
21. (416) Desmond Jennings
22. (425) Pedro Alvarez
Charlie Hayes Mays of the Premier League:
1. (12) Miguel Cabrera
2. (29) Felix Hernandez
3. (52) B.J. Upton
4. (69) Matt Wieters
5. (92) Gordon Beckham
6. (109) Jay Bruce
7. (132) Joakim Soria
8. (149) Stephen Drew
9. (172) Stephen Strasburg
10. (189) Chad Qualls
11. (212) Nolan Reimold
12. (229) Phil Hughes
13. (252) Wade Davis
14. (269) Dexter Fowler
15. (292) Chris Tillman
16. (309) Brad Lidge
17. (332) Edwin Encarnacion
18. (349) Colby Lewis
19. (372) Kosuke Fukudome
20. (389) Fernando Rodney
21. (412) Brett Wallace
22. (429) Gaby Sanchez
I like your team (particularly the first five picks and 12-16) but I think you really overreached on Bruce, Soria and Qualls.
Yeah, I wish I didn’t do the Qualls one, especially had I known I’d get Lidge 6 rounds later. I think Bruce is a nice post-hype sleeper and he wasn’t going to last til my next pick.
Really? I think 109-131 is a bit high for him, though he possesses upside.
That’s much better than it looked earlier. Lots of high-upside/high risk players. A ballsy draft, TSJC.
Well, I’ve got balls. Big ones.
I would expect no less. Your middle is a bit soft but the back end alone (21 + 22 are fucking steals) could yield huge dividends.
Trade me Smoak for Penny. Do it.
I had the eighth pick in the seventh league. Took Kemp with my first pick.
C: Geovany Soto
1B: Matt LaPorta
2B: Felipe Lopez
3B: Chone Figgins
SS: Jimmy Rollins
OF: Matt Kemp
OF: Jayson Werth
OF: Hunter Pence
UT: Mark Teahen
UT: Elijah Dukes
BN: Marlon Byrd
BN: Drew Stubbs
BN: Mark Ellis
SP: Javier Vazquez
SP: Matt Garza
P: Phil Hughes
P: Ian Kennedy
P: Brandon Webb
P: Johnny Cueto
P: Tyler Clippard
P: Sean Burnett
P: Clay Zavada
P: Jarrod Washburn
Obviously, I’m hoping for good years from a few of Garza, Webb, Hughes, Kennedy, and Cueto.
Completely punted saves. Not thrilled with the bench or the back end pitchers because I had to leave and turned on AutoPick.
Thoughts?
You might struggle in power and you’re banking on a lot of rebound or breakout years. Still, good potential and solid speed.
C—Jorge Posada
1B—Adrian Gonzalez
2B—Alberto Callaspo
SS—Clint Barmes
3B—Scott Rolen
OF—Nyjer Morgan
OF—Nick Swisher
OF—Matt Diaz
UT—Troy Glaus
SP—Josh Johnson
SP—Adam Wainwright
RP—Ryan Franklin
RP—David Aardsma
P—Felix Hernandez
P—Matt Garza
P—Tim Hudson
BN—Barry Zito
BN—Robinson Tejada
BN—Gaby Sanchez
BN—Lyle Overbay
BN—Chris Davis
BN—Jesus Montero (just because!)
***
I’m pleased with my pitching staff, but my offense is certainly less than impressive. Only one real power threat and only one real SB threat and a couple of black holes.
Overall, I like my team and hope I do well.
Ok, I’ll give you Teixeira for Johnson, Aardsma and teh Jesus
Looking over these drafts makes me so excited for League 6′s draft. It’s also a good resource to see where people generally reached or got awesome value, plus the range of strategies. Never done a 20-team league. It looks freakin’ insane. When people are getting upset that Zito went one pick before they chose, you know it’s wild stuff.
So psyched. And best of luck to the other leagues!
The Overshares FTW!
I WAS GOING TO RULE THE WORLD WITH BARRY ZITO, GOD DAMMIT!
Now you shall witness as I unleash his unbeatable wrath on the rest of the league!
I’d never even played before, but players got drafted that aren’t even on teams 40-man! By about round 15, we were scraping the bottom of the barrel. But I guess when I look at my team, yeah it’s a little weak, but so are the other 19, lol.
Good luck to you in your league sir!
What if you have to draft Gardner?
Montero’s Angels–RAB Premier League(TM)
1. (1) Albert Pujols 1B
2. (40) Brian McCann C
3. (41) Mark Reynolds 1B,3B
4. (80) Ricky Nolasco SP
5. (81) Ian Stewart 2B,3B
6. (120) Elvis Andrus SS
7. (121) Julio Borbón OF
8. (160) Nick Swisher 1B,OF
9. (161) Max Scherzer SP
10. (200) Kevin Correia SP
11. (201) Nick Johnson 1B
12. (240) Conor Jackson 1B,OF
13. (241) Trevor Cahill SP
14. (280) Matt LaPorta 1B,OF
15. (281) Mat Latos SP
16. (320) Matt Lindstrom RP
17. (321) Jeff Clement C
18. (360) David Freese 3B
19. (361) Troy Glaus Util
20. (400) Bud Norris SP
21. (401) Tyler Clippard RP
22. (440) Ty Wigginton 1B,3B
Did Dave Eiland decide the position eligibility for all the RAB fantasy leagues yet?
In another league 12 team roto, hits ops r rbi hr sb w k s whip K:bb
5 Chase Utley, Phi 2B
20 Troy Tulowitzki, Col SS
29 Ryan Zimmerman, Was 3B
44 Adam Lind, Tor OF
53 Adam Dunn, Was 1B
68 Josh Beckett, Bos SP
77 Ricky Nolasco, Fla SP
92 Manny Ramirez, LAD OF
101 Jake Peavy, CWS SP
116 Carlos Beltran, NYM OF
125 Brad Hawpe, Col OF
140 A.J. Burnett, NYY SP
149 Miguel Montero, Ari C
164 Nick Swisher, NYY 1B
173 Mike Gonzalez, Bal RP
188 Octavio Dotel, Pit RP
197 Mark Buehrle, CWS SP
212 Nick Johnson, NYY 1B
221 Brett Gardner, NYY OF
236 Phil Hughes, NYY SP
245 Ben Sheets, Oak SP
260 Matt Guerrier, Min RP
269 Franklin Morales, Col RP
284 Daniel Bard, Bos RP
293 Mike Adams, SD RP
and for RAB tier 2 (some autodrafting here=\)
1. (7) Matt Kemp
2. (34) Zack Greinke
3. (47) José Reyes
4. (74) Carlos Lee
5. (87) Clayton Kershaw
6. (114) Rickie Weeks
7. (127) Chipper Jones
8. (154) A.J. Burnett
9. (167) Nick Swisher
10. (194) Nick Johnson
11. (207) Josh Willingham
12. (234) Mark Buehrle
13. (247) Hideki Matsui
14. (274) Brett Gardner
15. (287) Travis Snider
16. (314) Daniel Bard (auto draft begins!)
17. (327) Wade Davis
18. (354) Ramon A. Ramirez (yeah, oops)
19. (367) Ramón Ramírez
20. (394) Justin Masterson
21. (407) Hideki Okajima
22. (434) Rod Barajas
somehow you ended up with like the entirety of Boston’s ~epic depth~. Congratulations?
Can you not read? It autodrafted those players.
Is it just me, or does Richard Gere look like Hideki Matsui in 20 years in this photo?