Saturday Night Open Thread


Have at it.

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  1. Tampa Yankee says:

    Have at it.


  2. Accent Shallow says:

    How did Brackman look today?

  3. I asked this late in the game thread but everyone had already left:

    Romulo: ROM-you-low, Rom-YOU-low, or something else?

  4. Tom Zig says:

    So I started watching that Spartacus show. It’s……interesting.

    And the guy looks a lot like Johnny Damon

  5. bexarama says:

    I’m watching the repeat of the Yankees’ 30 Clubs in 30 Days to kill time before I go out and heh, they totally edited it to change what the guy said with the “the Yankees will lose the division on the last day to the Sox, but play them in a one-game playoff and lose, but win the WC” thing. They changed it to the Yankees coming in second in the division then beating the Angels in a one-game playoff to take the WC. Which, you know, could actually happen. Maybe they read this site. ;)

    • Tom Zig says:

      I don’t see the Angels after losing Lackey, Figgins and Vlad being close to the Yankees.

      • bexarama says:

        I very much agree. But, I can still see the Angels winning that division (though it’s no longer the Angels, and everyone else). Right now it seems pretty up in the air to me.

        • Mike Pop says:

          The Mariners me thinks.

          • bexarama says:

            It could definitely happen, but the back of their rotation is meh and their offense is still verrrry questionable to me.

            Gun to my head, I take Texas to win that division, actually.

            • Zack says:

              Yeah but Texas needs Harden and Hamilton to stay healthy, Andrus not experience a sophmore slump, hope Kinsler just had a down year, and have young arms in their rotation.

              But like you said, Seattle has 3 question marks in their rotation. And the Angels rotation has question marks too and they need Matsui to stay healthy, and have Wood produce.

              • bexarama says:

                I’m running out so let me make this quick but I agree with what you said. There are a lot of question marks for every team (well, Oakland is pretty much just bad unless a lot of their young players make huge leaps and Sheets pitches like 200ish innings along with them). I dunno, my gut is just telling me Texas for whatever reason. And with Andrus, it’s very much about the glove, not the bat.

                I am fond of Matsui, but he’s not really a difference-maker like Vlad was when he was fully healthy.

                King Felix is a stud, but it wouldn’t shock me if he wasn’t close to the beast he was last year. He’s a young guy, young guys struggle.

                • ROBTEN says:

                  He’s a young guy, young guys struggle.

                  True, he’s still really young, but with 4 1/2 years at the MLB level with 200 innings and 30+ starts over the last 4, I don’t think that any struggles this year could be chalked up to “growing pains” or “youthfulness” in the way that it could be with a pitcher like Joba or Hughes. Barring injury, with almost 1000 innings and 5 seasons at the MLB level, I think King Felix is much more likely to repeat or improve upon his resume at this point than he is to have a rapid season-long drop-off.

                  Of course, you just can’t predict baseball.

                • “He’s a young guy, young guys struggle.”

                • bexarama says:

                  Nostra-Artist: heh (I could say something here, but I won’t)

                  ROBTEN: I wasn’t trying to say that Joba and Hughes are Felix’s equivalents, though I knew what I said would be taken that way because I phrased it badly.

                • ROBTEN says:

                  I understand. I was just marking that at this point in his career, even though he’s young (24), his time in the majors puts him in a different conversation than other young pitchers. He’s even got a season and a half of innings on Lincecum (25/26) and Lester (26).

                  You’re right, though, in the sense that he could have an early career drop-off, like Eckersley did at 25/26, but I think it would be due more to workload than the struggles of a young pitcher–or, rather, having had such large workload at such a young age–which the Mariners have shown some concern about the past two springs:


  6. Hangoverologist says:

    Open thread this early?

    Anyway, yesterday I was at school and I was talking to this kid. The kid is a Red Sox fan and he says that the Sox are going to sweep the Yanks in the season series. He also said that the Sox have better pitching than the Yanks and that the offenses are about as equal. I pulled out a drawing I made in class of the 2010 Yankees and Red Sox. It is a chart that lists the advantages and disadvantages of each club.

    Pitching staff:

    CC >> Lester

    CC is only slightly better than Lester at this point, but there is enough edge in CC’s favor to make him better.

    Beckett > AJ

    AJ’s wildness is what takes him under on this side. The BB/9 will likely remain high as it’s been in his career.

    Javy >>>> Lackey

    Javy is insanely consistent and Lackey has not been healthy to start a season in the last two years.

    Andy >>> Matsuzaka

    Andy’s consistency is what makes him better than Matsuzaka, but the injury risk is the same with both of them.

    Phil/Joba >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bucholz/Wakefield

    The kids are still young, and Bucholz and Wakefield have been injured often enough to not make an impact.

    I also wrote how the Yanks’ infield is much better than Boston’s by a mile offensively. Defensively, Boston leads us by a hair.

    The outfield is a wash, IMO.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Phil/Joba aren’t that far ahead of Buchholz/Wakefield. I don’t even know if either of them are further along than Buchholz at the moment. Buch is a stud.

    • bexarama says:

      I’d be willing to say the Sox’s pitching is better than the Yankees’. It’s top-heavy (TWSS!) and if one of Beckett, Lackey, or Lester goes down, ruh-roh, but that’s a darn good pitching staff. At this point I’ll say Lackey > Javy (though it could go either way) and Andy = Dice-K (that hurt to write). Phil/Joba are pretty much equal to Buchholz… I will say to Mike Pop that if he’s a stud, then so are Joba and Phil.

      The offense? Yeah, that’s where this argument is silly. Yankees by a mile, at least on paper.

      Also, a series sweep? It’s eighteen games. An eighteen-game sweep would be insane. It would have to involve insanely bad luck by one team. I mean, the Orioles sucked against Boston last year, a lot, but even they won 2 games out of 18. Since they introduced the unbalanced schedule, there’s never been a team that swept another team in the 18-game season series.

      • Mike Pop says:

        Oh yeah, never denied Hughes/Joba are studs. Love them too man! I just think some Yankees fans act like Buchholz isn’t very good. But he’s going to be a very good pitcher in the MLB I think.

        • bexarama says:

          I generally think so too but the no-hitter aside, Hughes and certainly Joba have more success as a starter than Buch does. At this point in their careers, I think Joba has a sliiiight lead over the other two, but I can see them all being very good MLB starters in the future.

  7. Manimal says:

    Id say Wake/buck = Joba/Hughes. Lets be honest, they are both extremely inconsistent.

  8. billbybob says:

    Any reviews of Alice and Wonderland? I was considering seeing it later.

  9. J.R. says:

    Anyone who watched the game and the batting practice that Allbie out, knows that he punched his ticket to Scranton.

    But damn, Melancon looked pretty good.

    • Zack says:

      “knows that he punched his ticket to Scranton.”

      And what is he’s great for the rest of ST? That’s why you dont make those comments after the third ST game.

      • J.R. says:

        Did you watch his performance? And in reality he wasn’t a serious consideration to head north with the team. Close to the top of people to be called up though.

        • Zack says:

          I know it was a brutal performance, didnt say it wasnt. I just think its dumb to try and claim that he’s not going to make the team after 0.1 IP of spring training- just like no one is saying Boone Logan just punched his ticket to the big leagues after 2 IP and 2K.

          I just find ST story lines/assumptions/whatever annyoing.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      I imagine regardless of Albaladejo’s performance, he is the first in line to get DFAd and follow Bruney, Veras and Edwar in their footsteps.

  10. AJ says:

    Boston: it sucks when most of your fans care more about the failures of the Yankees than the success of their own team.

  11. Zack says:

    Jets cut Jones to save money and trade Rhodes for performance (money too I guess), but they keep Gholston (3.48m this year). Really?


  12. Jake H says:

    So just got an offer on our house. We have 32 day to find a new house and move. We are screwed.

  13. Cecala says:

    Rangers need to keep their 4th line on more, they are having the best chances out of all the lines.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      The Fire Sather rally is tomorrow, I wonder how it will turn out.

      • Rick in Boston says:

        I’d love for Sather to go, but the options that Dolan will consider aren’t that pretty. Unless he can get Maloney back from Phoenix, Sather’s successor will probably be Messier, who has zero background in player personnel and development.

        The Rangers are rebuilding in a much more competitive way than the Knicks, without having a Crosby/Ovechkin available in free agency. Sather continually has messed up free agency, so maybe it’s a good thing. But at least he’s drafted well, although his only two offensive guys are either still in college (Kreider) or have died. Right now, the Rangers sit in the eight spot for the draft – but I have no idea how good the draft is.

        Does anyone?

  14. Tom Zig says:

    Yogi Berra asks Evan Longoria for an autograph. Imagine that. What an honor.

  15. Tom Zig says:

    Am I allowed to quote things that are behind the insider wall? Or is that frowned upon?

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      Probably not a good idea, even though people would be interested.

    • If you want to be on the safe side, just rephrase it.

      • Tom Zig says:

        Ok fair enough.

        Here is my rephrasing:

        Buster Olney pretty much says that the Yankees should just end the 5th starter debate now and just stick Joba in the pen because that’s what is “almost certainly” going to happen. But he doesn’t disagree with the idea of having him as a starter in ST to get innings.

        Here is my thoughts:

        Why would the Yankees go through all that trouble last year just to stick him in the bullpen now? Sure Joba’s performance the other day was bad, but it was his first appearance (in relief, no less) of the spring. Just give him a chance. That’s all I want to see happen. Is that so much to ask for?

  16. YankeesJunkie says:

    How can anyone say that Matsuzaka is equal Andy. Matsuzaka walks way to many people and he got so lucky in 2008.

  17. AJ says:

    Fantasy baseball draft tonight. Any tips?

  18. Spoken, at dinner tonight, by my 87 year old grandma:

    “I cut class my senior year to see the Dodgers win the pennant”

    I have the coolest grandma, ever.

  19. bexarama says:

    Goose Gossage needs to not talk any more, really

    Also, heh, Mike (can I call you Mike?), did I inspire that last Tweet of yours? Whoops. But he did look really good! I do, however, recognize that it means pretty much nothing, as does the fact that Joba and/or Hughes didn’t look really good.

    • Slugger27 says:

      “when i got a one inning save, i felt guilty”

      what a jackass

      • bexarama says:

        When I was inducted into the Hall of Fame, I was told that I had 53 saves with seven-plus outs. I was told that Mariano had one and Trevor Hoffman had two. So I think that says it in a nutshell.


    • ROBTEN says:

      Gossage, like many people, is comfortable with the familiar. While his comments are fairly banal what I do think is interesting about them is that their tone reflects what I would argue is a tendency in American culture that has become increasingly fearful about anything different, even if it is beneficial in the long term.

      Of course, the problem is that this comfort with the familiar will often result in contradictory beliefs, like the way that anti-stat people will still often point to more familiar stats (avg, rbi, etc.) in ranting against the dangers of sabermetrics.

      Or, in this case, “aggressiveness” in the bullpen is good (Joba), except when it is not (K-Rod). I’d like to think in asking one of the follow-up questions comparing K-Rod and Joba, that even the interviewer seems to realize that it is ultimately a matter of degrees which separate K-Rod’s actions on the mound from Joba’s. The real difference, in other words, is not a player’s “make-up,” but ability. But, whether or not he intended this, I think the question and answer show it.

      Fortunately, Cashman reiterated (once again) today that while moving Joba and Phil to the bullpen might be good in the short-term, it would hurt the long-term needs of the ball club.

      Or, to paraphrase (and slightly alter) Stephen Colbert from a few weeks ago: just because something is happening doesn’t mean that it is the only thing that has ever happened or will ever happen.

    • Drew says:

      I think Phil Hughes is a starter for sure.
      He can go deep into games.
      He’s a power pitcher and he also knows how to pitch, with a nice curveball.
      [I think] He’s got a good head on his shoulders. Personally, I think Joba is a relief pitcher.

      [I think]He’s got that makeup, that aggressiveness. I think that he is more valuable in the bullpen. I think that he would be a great relief pitcher.

      Joba as a starter in the big leagues;

      5.14 innings per start.

      Phil as a starter in the big leagues;

      5.03 innings per start.

      Bear in mind Joba’s are slightly skewed because of last year’s “short start” games.

      So.. basically he’s just talking out of his ass with zero factual basis behind his opinion. He just “thinks” a lot of things.

  20. Cecala says:

    A lot of thought was put into this thread’s body…

  21. YankeesJunkie says:

    So does anyone know how severe Joe Nathan’s injury is? Also, if it is serious enough to miss time will the Twins ship of the AL Central.

    • Hangoverologist says:

      It’s elbow stiffness. I think it’s similar to the one D-Rob had in August and September. Nothing too serious. He should be good to go by Opening Day.

      • Drew says:

        Too early to say it’s not serious. They’re certainly hoping it’s not serious but will not know until they see how it recovers. After surgery you expect some soreness so.. could be routine, could be worse.

  22. Omar says:

    Apparently Ben Roethlisberger likes to slap women around, I’m guessing that nothing comes of this. Y’know because he plays the game the right way, and he’s a competitor and all.

  23. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


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