Spring Training Game Thread: Home and home


After winning a 2-1 game in Lakeland yesterday, the Yankees and Tigers travel to Tampa this afternoon to complete a home and home set. The game is on YES at 1 p.m., so enjoy baseball on TV for the second day in a row. This time you’ll get to see the A lineup. It’s going to be a treat to watch this season.

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Nick Johnson, DH
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Curtis Granderson, CF
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Brett Gardner, LF

Pitching: Andy Pettitte

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Oh it’s the A+ lineup. Love it.

  2. bexarama says:

    I’m never gonna see Andy. Ever.

  3. Mike Axisa says:

    Wait, so now they’re making Marte a starter! What a mess!

  4. Did Michael Kay really just suggest taht Damaso Marte was the most valuable player during the playoffs?

  5. bexarama says:

    Awwww this is so nice :)

  6. Wow; Ryan Klesko was a lot better than I remember him being.

    .279/.370/.500 career, 128 OPS+, 162 averages of 26 HR and 92 RBI.

  7. Mike HC says:

    Damon gets the mini standing ovation. I expect an even bigger one for his first game back at Yankee Stadium.

    • MikeD says:

      I remember reading an article by some Boston writer in the last month that suggested that Yankee fans would boo Damon on his first trip back to the Stadium and he was instructing us (you know, “us” Yankee fans, because we always take advice for Boston beat writers) that we shouldn’t do that. What an idiot. Red Sox fans would boo Damon, Yankee fans will give him a nice ovation in appreciation for what he did.

      • bexarama says:

        to be fair, there was at least one NY writer that said Boston fans should boo Pedro Martinez when he came back as a Met. I remember FJM mocking that article.

        Ewww did I just do the whole “objective Yankee fan!!!” thing? I normally hate that. Ignore this post.

        • MikeD says:

          Oh, I know there are plenty of jerk NY writers too. The ovation that Damon had just received reminded me of the Boston writer’s article and how off base he was. When I read it, I thought there was zero chance that Yankee fans will collectively boo Damon on his first trip back to the Stadium.

  8. Isn’t what Singleton just described about Leyland something every manager should/probably does do?

  9. I hope IPK crushes the NL.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Same man, I’m a big fan of his. People were too worried about upside and not value when evaluating him I think.

      • YankeeJosh says:

        If the Yankees were seriously considering Joba being in the pen beyond 2010, they shouldn’t have traded IPK. He’d be the perfect 6th/7th starter for the Yankees this year.

        Now if Hughes struggles or injuries hit, the Yankees depth is Hirsch, Mitre and Aceves. Not inspiring.

        FTR, I was not a fan of the Granderson trade (hope I’m wrong) as I don’t love Grandy’s waek numbers against lefties and hated giving up 2 MLB ready kids for a player I’m not sold on.

  10. ultimate913 says:

    This is the ideal situation to start off a game. Jeter getting a single and Johnson walking.

  11. OldYanksFan says:

    I have a topic to put to the board:
    Next year, Cano’s contract year, he makes $10m.
    He ain’t cheap anymore.
    Then the Yanks have the options for ’12 and ’13, at $14m and $15m.
    Those are premium dollar figures.
    We know Robbie can be great, but his lack of patience, hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness, makes him a bit of a question.

    K. Russo has a decent bat.
    Can he play 2nd base?
    Might he be a back up plan for Cano?
    What kind of OPS+/wOBA does Cano need to post this year and next to make him worth 2/$29m?

    Since his glove and baserunning are right around average, his whole value is in his bat.

    Whaddayathink? Might Cashman let him walk after this year?

    • Drew says:

      We know Robbie can be great, but his lack of patience, hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness, makes him a bit of a question.
      Robbie is great.
      He is an impatient hitter because he can hit anything he wants.
      He will hit with RISP and get MVP votes this year.
      He doesn’t eat cornflakes.
      The only question is exactly how great he will be.

    • MikeD says:

      The Yankees aren’t going to let a young 2B who hit .320 with 25 HRs walk, especially as he’s heading into what should be his peak seasons.

      Robbie’s contract is more expensive than it probable would be if it was negotiated today, but that’s not something that will bother the Yankees.

    • ultimate913 says:

      But RISP!!!!11111eleven!!!

    • We’ll see how the next two years go; by that time, Russo may not even be in the organization. As for what Cano will have to produce like: basically like he has in the last 3-4 years.

    • Whaddayathink? Might Cashman let him walk after this year?



    • Dirty Pena says:

      hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness,

      Small sample size, and huh?

      Anyway, last year Cano was 4.4 WAR, which was worth $19.6 million. If Cano’s wOBA is above .360, he’s definitely worth it.

      • Dirty Pena says:

        Meaning he’s been around or above .360 three of the past four years, not that he HAS to be above that.

      • OldYanksFan says:

        Robbie’s career wOBA is at .349, although one very bad year might have that number misleading, with a 2.7 WAR/year average.

        Is the going rate for 1 WAR at $4m?
        So at $14m and $15m, he needs to have a 3.5 and 3.75 WAR to ‘break even’?

        I am NOT selling Russo and I like Robbie.
        I am just not confident that he will continue to improve, and stay at his 2009 level. He has been cheap, and a steal for a while, but now his salary is getting up there.

        Jus sayin’ he will have to perform very well for 2 years or he might be on the block.

        I guess if need be, they can turn down the option and re-negotiate, and eat the $2m buyout.

    • Cano’s an average defensive player. His hitting with RiSP is concerning but it’s nothing conclusive, his “flakiness” isn’t something anyone should worry about.

      Are you legitimately arguing (or merely pondering) that the Yankees would drop arguably the second or third best 2B at around true market value because Kevin Russo seems to have a decent bat? Cano is a great hitter regardless of his impatience (he makes fantastic contact). He’s provided around $20 mil. in value the past two seasons.

      Cano’s going to give you an OPS+ of around 125 for $14.5 million at 2B? No way will those options not vest.

  12. ultimate913 says:

    Ha. Ken just had a icwudt moment.

  13. bexarama says:

    I swear, if there’s a place going through a drought, they just need to take Andy Pettitte there. And, poof, rain!

    I could also make a truly disgusting joke here (though not as disgusting as the talk of Cincinnati Hot Pockets and whatnot from yesterday) but this is a family website so I will not.

  14. I know it’s meaningless, but you know Alex wants to go way deep here. I’d love it.

  15. Mike Pop says:

    I can’t believe they’re not IBB A-Rod.

  16. Dirty Pena says:

    Is it just me or does it seem like Johnson is scoring from 2nd on every single and 1st on every double?

  17. bexarama says:

    Johnny Damon would have scored from second on that single!!!! Wait, what?

    (dude the Yankees won 4-1 in that game)

  18. Mike Axisa says:

    Yay Robbie with RISP.

  19. Alex S says:

    and they said he can’t hit with RISP……pshhhh

  20. I can’t wait til this happens against real pitchers.

  21. Now, that’s a great stat for Swish (the full count percentage thing) but I’d also like to know the league average for that same stat.

  22. MikeD says:

    I don’t understand why Pettitte didn’t start this game. I heard what Singleton said, but it doesn’t makes sense.

    Have Pettitte start, have him pitch against live batters until the rain comes, then pull him out of the game as soon as it starts raining and then have him complete his innings under the stadium, as he’s apparently doing right now. The Yankees can then go to their relief pitchers in the real game if the rain stops. At least this way Pettitte would get an inning, maybe two, against live batting.

  23. bexarama says:

    that rain is LOUD

  24. Drew says:

    Well that was fun for a while…

    Game over.

  25. But I thought Robbie didn’t hustle?!

  26. Mike Axisa says:

    Was that heads up baserunning by Cano? A hit with RISP and a smart baserunning play in the same inning? Madness!

  27. Drew says:

    Gardy really drove that one.. heh

  28. It also helps that Jackson was running while he caught the ball/couldn’t get into a crow hop fast enough.

  29. Mike HC says:

    Yanks obviously have the book on Austin Jackson. Run on his arm early and often.

  30. At what point do we just start feeling bad for these MiLers?

  31. Mike Pop says:

    Gotta be relentless.

  32. Mike Axisa says:

    NJ clogging those bases again…

  33. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Calling a TEX grand-slam- Edwar all over again!

  34. Can Tex work the walk from both sides of the plate in one inning? Can he?

    (moves to edge of seat)

  35. Mike Pop says:

    Mariano doesn’t mind the rain.

  36. ultimate913 says:

    I thought this debate was over about 14 years ago. Mo is NOT a starter.

  37. Mike HC says:

    And we have a Mo sighting. This guy doesn’t even give up any runs in Spring either. I miss Mo already and he might pitch another decade, ha.

  38. Mike Pop says:

    Good thing Joba is going to the 8th, Mo might be losing it.

  39. bexarama says:

    haha the Tigers walked as many batters in one inning as Mariano walked in all of 2008. lols

  40. Mike HC says:

    Tigers starting rotation looks pretty strong this year if things go well.

  41. T-Dubs says:

    Cano showing some raaaaange.

  42. Reggie C. says:

    Mo for the third? SP depth is a tad thin.

  43. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Good thing that one stayed in the park, otherwise A-Rod would be stat-padding again.

    /practicing memes for opening day’d

  44. Vinny the Bull says:

    Every time Granderson runs, it looks like he’s stutter stepping. But nice play.

  45. Vinny the Bull says:

    Rice Krispies on your TV set.

  46. Zack says:

    Chances Leyland is stupid enough to let Magglio’s option to vest for next year too?

  47. Mike Axisa says:

    Hahaha, what the hell was that DirecTV commercial?

  48. Souter Fell says:

    That Posada commercial totally missed the obvious line: Jorge’s dad never misses a pitch, even if Jorge does.

  49. Reggie C. says:

    Now this guy is a REAL pitcher. Max Scherzer’s debut against the Yankees makes the game more interesting.

  50. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Nice line for Weinhardt: 1.2IP, 0H, 0R, 0ER, 4BB, 0K.

    21.6 BB/9

  51. Drew says:

    Scherzer has two different color eyes? Looks weird as hell.

  52. Riddering says:

    1 for 2 with a walk in the third inning: not a bad line for a hitter.

  53. bexarama says:

    that was the weirdest double I ever saw. But, yay NJ!!!!

  54. MikeD says:

    So we don’t have Pettitte start the game when it’s not raining, but we bring him when it is raining Now I get it.

  55. Mike Axisa says:

    Real nice Nunez, real nice.

  56. What a frickin’ Posada-ish baserunning play.

  57. bexarama says:

    OMG that replay KILLED ME

  58. Reggie C. says:

    Ehh… Nunez is going to have a rough time living this down. I’m not even sure what happened.

  59. Drew says:

    The umpire said it was an out. Fuckin ass.

  60. Vinny the Bull says:

    Ump fail.

  61. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Long single for Cano.

  62. Yankee1010 says:

    Nice to see the umpires in postseason form …

  63. YankeesJunkie says:

    Best single EVER!!!

  64. Hey ZZ says:

    Was that Marty fucking Foster again? This guy needs to be banned from umping Yankee games.

  65. Drew says:

    Ha, I have Sterling and Suzyn on in the other room, they’re still trying to figure out what happened..


  66. Drew says:

    Dude end the game b4 someone gets hurt.

  67. Accent Shallow says:

    Just turned on the Mets game to get my baseball fix, and was rewarded with a Nick Lowe reference.

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