Spring Training Game Thread: Home and home

Joba's future as a reliever
Long: I expect big things from Brett Gardner

After winning a 2-1 game in Lakeland yesterday, the Yankees and Tigers travel to Tampa this afternoon to complete a home and home set. The game is on YES at 1 p.m., so enjoy baseball on TV for the second day in a row. This time you’ll get to see the A lineup. It’s going to be a treat to watch this season.

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Nick Johnson, DH
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Curtis Granderson, CF
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Brett Gardner, LF

Pitching: Andy Pettitte

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Joba's future as a reliever
Long: I expect big things from Brett Gardner
  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Oh it’s the A+ lineup. Love it.

  • bexarama

    I’m never gonna see Andy. Ever.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      I have his autograph on a business card. Pfft!

    • NYY626

      I feel your pain :(

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Wait, so now they’re making Marte a starter! What a mess!

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      ietc

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Did Michael Kay really just suggest taht Damaso Marte was the most valuable player during the playoffs?

    • Hey ZZ

      1/2 of his appearances in the WS came in the 8th inning.

      How could he not be the MVP?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        List of things more important to a team’s success then their 8th inning specialist:

        1.) Heart

        [end of list]

        Sincerely,
        Nomar Garciaparra

    • Cecala

      I think the worst thing Kay ever said was during a game last year. He was like, “The Yankees are like a sandwich shop, theres a new hero ever day!” My friends and I were all just like Why did he say that ughhh!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Meh, I’ll take “cheesy” over “flat out wrong and horrendously stupid” anyday.

  • bexarama

    Awwww this is so nice :)

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Wow; Ryan Klesko was a lot better than I remember him being.

    .279/.370/.500 career, 128 OPS+, 162 averages of 26 HR and 92 RBI.

    • Mike Pop

      Oh yeah? Well he only hit .236 in the postseason. Bum.

      • bexarama

        I remember him dropping the pop-up in Game 4 of the 1996 World Series, too. Clearly the postseason was in his head.

  • Mike HC

    Damon gets the mini standing ovation. I expect an even bigger one for his first game back at Yankee Stadium.

    • MikeD

      I remember reading an article by some Boston writer in the last month that suggested that Yankee fans would boo Damon on his first trip back to the Stadium and he was instructing us (you know, “us” Yankee fans, because we always take advice for Boston beat writers) that we shouldn’t do that. What an idiot. Red Sox fans would boo Damon, Yankee fans will give him a nice ovation in appreciation for what he did.

      • bexarama

        to be fair, there was at least one NY writer that said Boston fans should boo Pedro Martinez when he came back as a Met. I remember FJM mocking that article.

        Ewww did I just do the whole “objective Yankee fan!!!” thing? I normally hate that. Ignore this post.

        • MikeD

          Oh, I know there are plenty of jerk NY writers too. The ovation that Damon had just received reminded me of the Boston writer’s article and how off base he was. When I read it, I thought there was zero chance that Yankee fans will collectively boo Damon on his first trip back to the Stadium.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Isn’t what Singleton just described about Leyland something every manager should/probably does do?

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I hope IPK crushes the NL.

    • Mike Pop

      Same man, I’m a big fan of his. People were too worried about upside and not value when evaluating him I think.

      • YankeeJosh

        If the Yankees were seriously considering Joba being in the pen beyond 2010, they shouldn’t have traded IPK. He’d be the perfect 6th/7th starter for the Yankees this year.

        Now if Hughes struggles or injuries hit, the Yankees depth is Hirsch, Mitre and Aceves. Not inspiring.

        FTR, I was not a fan of the Granderson trade (hope I’m wrong) as I don’t love Grandy’s waek numbers against lefties and hated giving up 2 MLB ready kids for a player I’m not sold on.

  • ultimate913

    This is the ideal situation to start off a game. Jeter getting a single and Johnson walking.

  • OldYanksFan

    I have a topic to put to the board:
    Next year, Cano’s contract year, he makes $10m.
    He ain’t cheap anymore.
    Then the Yanks have the options for ’12 and ’13, at $14m and $15m.
    Those are premium dollar figures.
    We know Robbie can be great, but his lack of patience, hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness, makes him a bit of a question.

    K. Russo has a decent bat.
    Can he play 2nd base?
    Might he be a back up plan for Cano?
    What kind of OPS+/wOBA does Cano need to post this year and next to make him worth 2/$29m?

    Since his glove and baserunning are right around average, his whole value is in his bat.

    Whaddayathink? Might Cashman let him walk after this year?

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      We know Robbie can be great, but his lack of patience, hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness, makes him a bit of a question.
      Robbie is great.
      He is an impatient hitter because he can hit anything he wants.
      He will hit with RISP and get MVP votes this year.
      He doesn’t eat cornflakes.
      The only question is exactly how great he will be.

    • MikeD

      The Yankees aren’t going to let a young 2B who hit .320 with 25 HRs walk, especially as he’s heading into what should be his peak seasons.

      Robbie’s contract is more expensive than it probable would be if it was negotiated today, but that’s not something that will bother the Yankees.

    • ultimate913

      But RISP!!!!11111eleven!!!

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      We’ll see how the next two years go; by that time, Russo may not even be in the organization. As for what Cano will have to produce like: basically like he has in the last 3-4 years.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Whaddayathink? Might Cashman let him walk after this year?

      (thinks)

      No.

    • Dirty Pena

      hitting with RISP, and overall flakiness,

      Small sample size, and huh?

      Anyway, last year Cano was 4.4 WAR, which was worth $19.6 million. If Cano’s wOBA is above .360, he’s definitely worth it.

      • Dirty Pena

        Meaning he’s been around or above .360 three of the past four years, not that he HAS to be above that.

      • OldYanksFan

        Robbie’s career wOBA is at .349, although one very bad year might have that number misleading, with a 2.7 WAR/year average.

        Is the going rate for 1 WAR at $4m?
        So at $14m and $15m, he needs to have a 3.5 and 3.75 WAR to ‘break even’?

        I am NOT selling Russo and I like Robbie.
        I am just not confident that he will continue to improve, and stay at his 2009 level. He has been cheap, and a steal for a while, but now his salary is getting up there.

        Jus sayin’ he will have to perform very well for 2 years or he might be on the block.

        I guess if need be, they can turn down the option and re-negotiate, and eat the $2m buyout.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Cano’s an average defensive player. His hitting with RiSP is concerning but it’s nothing conclusive, his “flakiness” isn’t something anyone should worry about.

      Are you legitimately arguing (or merely pondering) that the Yankees would drop arguably the second or third best 2B at around true market value because Kevin Russo seems to have a decent bat? Cano is a great hitter regardless of his impatience (he makes fantastic contact). He’s provided around $20 mil. in value the past two seasons.

      Cano’s going to give you an OPS+ of around 125 for $14.5 million at 2B? No way will those options not vest.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        We’re swarming today, guys. You gents must be all antsy about RAB fantasy coming up.

        • Dirty Pena

          I sure am. Premier League FTW

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          I have a draft tonight, too, but not in an RAB league.

  • ultimate913

    Ha. Ken just had a icwudt moment.

  • bexarama

    I swear, if there’s a place going through a drought, they just need to take Andy Pettitte there. And, poof, rain!

    I could also make a truly disgusting joke here (though not as disgusting as the talk of Cincinnati Hot Pockets and whatnot from yesterday) but this is a family website so I will not.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      He’s like lil wayne.

    • pete

      *cincinnati bowtie

      it’s an alabama hotpocket

      • bexarama

        thanks. I knew that wasn’t right but I didn’t really care to check. Haha.

      • http://yanksgoyard.com Andy_C_23

        I just urbandictionaryed those two phrases…wow. Just, wow.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I know it’s meaningless, but you know Alex wants to go way deep here. I’d love it.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      That’ll do.

    • bexarama

      you know Alex wants to go way deep here.
      TWSS

  • Mike Pop

    I can’t believe they’re not IBB A-Rod.

    • pete

      with the bases loaded? or was this a joke…

      • Mike Pop

        joke.

  • Dirty Pena

    Is it just me or does it seem like Johnson is scoring from 2nd on every single and 1st on every double?

  • bexarama

    Johnny Damon would have scored from second on that single!!!! Wait, what?

    (dude the Yankees won 4-1 in that game)

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Yay Robbie with RISP.

  • Alex S

    and they said he can’t hit with RISP……pshhhh

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Bueno Robbie.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I can’t wait til this happens against real pitchers.

    • ultimate913

      The thing is though, no pitcher is real when facing this lineup.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Now, that’s a great stat for Swish (the full count percentage thing) but I’d also like to know the league average for that same stat.

  • MikeD

    I don’t understand why Pettitte didn’t start this game. I heard what Singleton said, but it doesn’t makes sense.

    Have Pettitte start, have him pitch against live batters until the rain comes, then pull him out of the game as soon as it starts raining and then have him complete his innings under the stadium, as he’s apparently doing right now. The Yankees can then go to their relief pitchers in the real game if the rain stops. At least this way Pettitte would get an inning, maybe two, against live batting.

  • bexarama

    that rain is LOUD

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Well that was fun for a while…

    http://www.weather.com/weather.....e/USFL0481

    Game over.

    • MikeD

      Mariano in the game. You’re right. Game over.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    But I thought Robbie didn’t hustle?!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Was that heads up baserunning by Cano? A hit with RISP and a smart baserunning play in the same inning? Madness!

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Gardy really drove that one.. heh

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Robbie with TEH WHEELZ!!!

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    It also helps that Jackson was running while he caught the ball/couldn’t get into a crow hop fast enough.

  • Mike HC

    Yanks obviously have the book on Austin Jackson. Run on his arm early and often.

    • Mike HC

      although the weather obviously is playing a major factor.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      We’ve got the benefit of excellent advance scouting with regards to young Mr. Jackson, I’d say.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    At what point do we just start feeling bad for these MiLers?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Who’s on the mound? Weinhardt? I think that was the name of my freshman dorm at NYU.

    • bexarama

      NEVERRRR MWAHAHAHHAA

  • Mike Pop

    Gotta be relentless.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    NJ clogging those bases again…

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Calling a TEX grand-slam- Edwar all over again!

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Or, maybe not.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Can Tex work the walk from both sides of the plate in one inning? Can he?

    (moves to edge of seat)

  • Mike Pop

    Mariano doesn’t mind the rain.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Can he pitch the second?

      • Mike Pop

        The 8th and 9th innings are the hardest to pitch. It’s science.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          Stay away from me with those stats! You’re one of them!

  • ultimate913

    I thought this debate was over about 14 years ago. Mo is NOT a starter.

  • Mike HC

    And we have a Mo sighting. This guy doesn’t even give up any runs in Spring either. I miss Mo already and he might pitch another decade, ha.

  • Mike Pop

    Good thing Joba is going to the 8th, Mo might be losing it.

  • bexarama

    haha the Tigers walked as many batters in one inning as Mariano walked in all of 2008. lols

  • Mike HC

    Tigers starting rotation looks pretty strong this year if things go well.

    • Mike HC

      I guess every team looks pretty strong in the spring if things go well.

      • Mike Pop

        Unless your favorite team is thinking about Farnsworth in the rotation.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          Or is playing north of the border.

          • bexarama

            Or has Fausto Carmona as the #2 starter.

  • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

    Cano showing some raaaaange.

  • Reggie C.

    Mo for the third? SP depth is a tad thin.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Good thing that one stayed in the park, otherwise A-Rod would be stat-padding again.

    /practicing memes for opening day’d

    • Mike Pop

      A-Rod hits grand slams when only a solo home run is needed.

  • Vinny the Bull

    Every time Granderson runs, it looks like he’s stutter stepping. But nice play.

  • Vinny the Bull

    Rice Krispies on your TV set.

  • Zack

    Chances Leyland is stupid enough to let Magglio’s option to vest for next year too?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      30%.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Leyland’s job is to win. If Mags is the best hitter aside from Miggy, he’ll probably play every day.

      • Zack

        I get that, except Raburn was actually their 2nd best hitter last year, limited playing time yes- but he deserves ABs.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Hahaha, what the hell was that DirecTV commercial?

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      One word: amazing.

    • bexarama

      I love that commercial

  • Souter Fell

    That Posada commercial totally missed the obvious line: Jorge’s dad never misses a pitch, even if Jorge does.

  • Reggie C.

    Now this guy is a REAL pitcher. Max Scherzer’s debut against the Yankees makes the game more interesting.

    • Mike Pop

      Yeah, always been a big fan of Scherzer.

      Should be a really good pitcher someday.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Nice line for Weinhardt: 1.2IP, 0H, 0R, 0ER, 4BB, 0K.

    21.6 BB/9

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Scherzer has two different color eyes? Looks weird as hell.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew
      • bexarama

        omg that might be SFW but it is NSFL(ife)

      • Mike Pop

        AHHHH! What a freak!

        /Curb Your Enthusiasm’d

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          You lovin that freak book Mac?

          • Mike Pop

            I love when they’re at Danson’s house, being so loud and obnoxious. Such a funny episode.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        That’s not Scherzer but Wagner Mateo.

      • http://yanksgoyard.com Andy_C_23

        Marilyn Manson?

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    1 for 2 with a walk in the third inning: not a bad line for a hitter.

  • bexarama

    that was the weirdest double I ever saw. But, yay NJ!!!!

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      Clogging the bases again…

    • bexarama

      oh God please don’t get hurt baby

      • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

        It’s gonna be a long year for you at this rate! ;-)

        • bexarama

          heh, that was a reference to Andy, not NJ. Though I am paranoid every time NJ bats/fields/sits/does anything other than sit in a bubble

          • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

            OK, got you.

  • MikeD

    So we don’t have Pettitte start the game when it’s not raining, but we bring him when it is raining Now I get it.

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      They did address this. He was throwing inside to minimize the injury danger, now they bring him back out for one inning just to get some reps against live hitting.

      It’s the best of both worlds…but I would’ve done it the other way, agreed.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Real nice Nunez, real nice.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Not his fault.

  • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

    What a frickin’ Posada-ish baserunning play.

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      Take it back, it was a Posada-ish umpiring call! :-)

  • bexarama

    OMG that replay KILLED ME

  • Reggie C.

    Ehh… Nunez is going to have a rough time living this down. I’m not even sure what happened.

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    The umpire said it was an out. Fuckin ass.

  • Vinny the Bull

    Ump fail.

  • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

    Heh. This is hilarious!

    • bexarama

      I knowwwww, I can’t stop laughing

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Long single for Cano.

  • Yankee1010

    Nice to see the umpires in postseason form …

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      IETC

  • YankeesJunkie

    Best single EVER!!!

  • Hey ZZ

    Was that Marty fucking Foster again? This guy needs to be banned from umping Yankee games.

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Ha, I have Sterling and Suzyn on in the other room, they’re still trying to figure out what happened..

    “NOW REEGIE CORONA IS ON FIRST!!”

    • Reggie C.

      “GOODNESS GRACIOUS!”

      • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

        “GOODNESS GWACIOUS!”
        FTFY

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Dude end the game b4 someone gets hurt.

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      $$$. Not gonna happen. They’re gonna try to get it through the top of the 5th so it’s a legal game.

      They should at least delay it…oh, they finally are. Good.

      • J.R.

        Its a spring game, they dont care if its official or not

        • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

          My point was this: it’s about the money.

          It’s extremely difficult to make up a Spring Training game, so if it’s rained out, they have to refund the tickets to everyone.

          That‘s why they desperately want to get through the top of the 5th (with the home team ahead) and make it an “official” game: so they don’t have to refund the gate.

  • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

    *a legal an official

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      Reply FAIL.

  • Accent Shallow

    Just turned on the Mets game to get my baseball fix, and was rewarded with a Nick Lowe reference.

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      Cool!

      Or was it the oh-so-obvious “Cruel to be Kind”? In which case it’s not so cool, but rather predictable…

      • Accent Shallow

        Announcer: (chuckles) In the heart of the city. . . where the alligators roam

  • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

    Well, that sucks.

    Later, guys.