Spring Training Game Thread: Hughes & Joba battle it out


Photo Credit: Kathy Willens, AP

Two games, two walk-offs so far for the Yankees. Of course, they were on the wrong end of it yesterday, losing to the Roy Halladay and the Phillies. If people in Philadelphia want to consider that revenge for the World Series, then be my guest. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

The battle for the fifth starter’s spot will resume today after Chad Gaudin, Sergio Mitre, and Al Aceves stated their case on Wednesday. Phil Hughes will start this afternoon and toss two innings before giving way to Joba Chamberlain and his two innings. Next time out, Joba will start and Hughes will relieve. Apparently they’re just going to alternate each time out.

Here’s today’s starting nine, which isn’t far off from what we’ll see on Opening Day…

Jeter, SS
Granderson, CF
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Posada, DH
Thames, LF
Cano, 2B
Swisher, RF
Cervelli, C

Scheduled Pitchers: Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Jeremy Bleich, Grant Duff, Dustin Moseley, Hector Noesi, David Robertson, Kevin Whelan

Also scheduled to play: Reegie Corona, Greg Golson, Reid Gorecki, Juan Miranda, Jesus Montero, Eduardo Nunez, Kevin Russo, Jorge Vazquez, Jon Weber

First pitch is scheduled for 1:05pm ET, and you can watch on either YES or MLB Network. Also, make sure you join in on our live chat, which you can find after the jump.


  1. Phil Hughes will start this afternoon and toss two innings before giving way to Joba Chamberlain and his two innings. Next time out, Joba will start and Hughes will relieve. Apparently they’re just going to alternate each time out.

    This deliberate spring training arrangement obviously means something incredibly important, and we should read shitloads of information into it and extrapolate it to mean several theories we’ve long held about the 2010 Yankee roster configuration are totally true.


  2. Dela G says:

    not a good start so far

    yanks down 1-0

  3. The Evil Empire says:

    Highes gives up a HR; Joba wins.

  4. mryankee says:

    Highes did not look great in terms of velocity and command in the 1st, the home run was wind aided by 3-4 sharp hit balls. Of course its his 1st start in spring training.

  5. BigBlueAL says:

    First game thread of 2010 for me baby yeah!!

  6. BigBlueAL says:

    Price has been 95-97 with his fastball so far in the 1st inning, jeez.

  7. bexarama says:

    No, Michael Kay, A-Rod didn’t do so well in the postseason because of that last game in Tampa. (facepalm)

  8. The Evil Empire says:

    Look at David Price’s fastball, now that’s a guy who belongs in the rotation.

  9. BigBlueAL says:

    Anyone read the what I thought was a really stupid, annoying article today in the Daily News by Bob Raissman about Arod??

  10. bexarama says:

    It was stupid, but he also had a decent article a little while ago about how the whole steroid overkill thing actually put the fans on A-Rod’s side.

  11. bexarama says:

    If anyone’s listening to Francesa while watching the game (yeah yeah I know, but he’s interviewing Yankees), Mo rules. /obvious statement’d

  12. theyankeewarrior says:

    Did Hughes seem to be nibbling/missing his spots to Navarro or did he just have a good AB?

  13. BigBlueAL says:

    Robbie smoked that one.

  14. Lazy Nick Swisher walks again. He must really hate running!

  15. dkidd says:

    re the picture above:

    i wonder if dave eiland practices his “watching pitchers throw” pose in the off season

  16. BigBlueAL says:

    Hey Ben, who usually does the Yankee book reviews, you, Mike or Joseph?? I only ask cause I was just checking stuff out on Amazon last night and I came across the new book about the 1995 ALDS series between the Yankees and Mariners and the few people who reviewed it at Amazon said it was a great book especially for Yankee fans so I was curious if any of you have/plan on reading it and writing a review about it.

    Looks like an interesting book maybe worthy of purchasing.

  17. Paul Canales says:

    I can’t get over how skinny Swisher now is.

  18. Paul Canales says:

    Did Swisher even get tagged? I’m not even sure.

  19. Mike HC says:

    I am oddly too excited to have seen Joba and Hughes pitch

  20. Of course he threw harder out of the bullpen! Just…what?!

  21. Reggie C. says:

    Damn. I thought Thames was fast enough to cut it off.

  22. Aj says:

    That’s it! It’s over! Joba back to the pen!

  23. Thames looked like he was lightly jogging.

  24. Bill R says:

    Joba and Hughes to the Pen!!!! They both suck! I want Gaudin!!!!

  25. BigBlueAL says:

    Joba getting rocked.

  26. Reggie C. says:


  27. Paul Canales says:

    Woah, back to back triples. Cool.

  28. Jose says:

    So does this game mean that Mitre will become the fifth starter?

  29. Rose says:

    Francesa: If you’re the owner what would have Joba be? Starter or Reliever?
    Mariano Rivera: If I were the owner or manager?
    Francesa: Owner first…starter or reliever for Joba?
    Mariano Rivera: If I were the owner? He would be my 8th inning guy.
    Francesa: What about if you were the manager?
    Mariano Rivera: 8th inning guy.

    On WFAN just now.

    Note: Mariano Rivera isn’t the owner nor manager and probably never will be.

  30. The Evil Empire says:

    David Price = future ace

    Joba = 5th starter

    Hughes= 3rd starter

  31. JackISBACK says:


    Obviously Joba can’t handle pitching out of the pen either, SEND HIM DOWN!!

    Ok realistically, Joba looks pretty decent today. His fastball seems decent (90-92), but his slider isn’t there.

  32. These three make for a dreadful booth. TV=muted.

  33. Paul Canales says:

    Maybe Cano should come in relief of Joba

  34. Salty Buggah says:

    Haha, some dude just told me that Hughes should be a starter because Joba, while eating innings, cannot pitch well and had a 5 ERA going into June 09. I told him he had a 3.62 ERA going into August. People love to talk while being uninformed

  35. theyankeewarrior says:

    Where was Joba’s fastball sitting today? And what did it top out at?

  36. bexarama says:

    Cervelli is just looking for vengeance against the Rays for ’08.

  37. Reggie C. says:

    Very nice play by Cervelli. Good speed too. Makes up for swinging through that gimme-92 mph FB earlier.

  38. Paul Canales says:

    Nice one Cervilli!

  39. Salty Buggah says:


  40. ShuutoHeat says:

    My man crush on Cisco continues to grow.

  41. Paul Canales says:

    Wow, that kid is something else.

  42. Jeremy Hellickson is a very solid young SP prospect. I’m impressed.

  43. JackISBACK says:

    Is Jesus Montero going to bat in this game? Thats like my biggest reason to watch ST games to be honest.

    • The Evil Umpire says:

      That’s like asking “is Jenna Jamison going to have a sex scene in her next movie?”

      • JackISBACK says:

        Didn’t she retire?

        I might even buy this year because of Montero.

        • Have you seen Jenna Jameson recently? She looks like a cat.

          If she hasn’t retired, she should. Watching her have sex with someone would be decidedly unerotic. She’s damn near Joan Rivers.

          • JackISBACK says:

            A little anecdote: Somewhere in December, I went to the car dealership to have my car serviced, and I’m sitting in the waiting room, and the TV in there has Oprah on. And I’m basically the only one sitting in there. On comes Jenna Jameson on Oprah, and some old guy who works there comes by, notices it, and literally runs to some other guy to tell him about it. 2 minutes later, pretty much EVERY guy from the dealership is there in the waiting room watching, it might have been the most male watched Oprah ever.

            But yeah, I’m pretty sure she’s retired.

            Speaking of losers no one wants to touch, Kei IGAWA is on!

  44. We’re doomed to be bottom-dwellers in the AL East this year.

  45. BigBlueAL says:

    Damn, how the hell did Jeter not catch that??

  46. bexarama says:

    Am I allowed to say this is an ugly game while recognizing that the game means absolutely nothing and it’s better to lose like this now rather than on August 17th?

  47. ShuutoHeat says:

    we’re doomed!!! doomed I say!!!
    /jumps bridge

  48. BklynJT says:

    Put in Montero!

  49. Whelan might make a good handball player. He seems good at wildly bouncing balls.

  50. Igawa sighting! Yes! Our Hiro is here!

  51. bexarama says:

    Bringing in Igawa with the bases loaded is just hilarious.

  52. Reggie C. says:

    BJ upton looks kinda scrawny. I understand sinewy strong … but he just looks skinny.

  53. theyankeewarrior says:

    Sean Rodriguez for MVP

  54. ultimate913 says:

    Igawa for Cy Young.

  55. JackISBACK says:

    Is there a player more over-rated than Upton? Really, all the talent in the world, and he keeps sucking except some spurts that keep giving people hope. He’s the Jason Giambi of athletic players.

    • Mike HC says:

      Does the fact that BJ Upton is an inconsistent player, make you think Justin Upton might be the same. Flashes of brilliance, but rarely puts together full great seasons? Or am I selling both of them short?

      I’m thinking like the Rush brothers in basketball, just more talented. Everyone thinks the next Rush will be better, but they are all busts for the most part. Not to say the Uptons are busts, just that everyone thinks they both should be better than they actually are.

      • Because they’re related? No. Look at Justin’s numbers.

        • Mike HC says:

          Serious question. When trying to project a players future, ultimate talent level, scouts many times look to comparable players to see how they turned out. I know the Upton Brothers skill sets are a little different, but the fact they are brothers has to be a pretty solid source of comparison. Should that play no role in the projection?

          • Hughesus Christo says:

            Only after Justin has a labral reconstruction.

          • It depends how closely their skill sets are aligned, not the fact that they are related. Perhaps you can use it as anecdotal character information and a bit of (presumptuous) genetic projection, but generally speaking, non-related players with more similar skills are better comparisons.

            If the two siblings are near exact in their skill sets, it’s a more apt comparison, but not strictly because of their parents being the same.

      • Hughesus Christo says:

        Justin Upton is God.

      • The Upton brothers’ baseball talent and ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Rush brothers’ basketball talent and ability

      • JackISBACK says:

        I’ve thought of it, but Justin just seems to be more talented and just better at baseball. I think of Justin and BJ as Peyton and Eli Manning. Where Justin would be Peyton, that great talent that can put it together very early. While BJ is sort of like Eli, where there is potential, but the results are just never there, always inconsistent. Similar to Eli, he could go out an put up a top performance next year, and no one would be surprised, and at the same time he can be horrible, and no one would be surprised.

        But having owned BJ in fantasy leagues the last two years, this guy just doesn’t seem to have any consistency.

      • Steve H says:

        No. What about the Giambi’s? Or Dimaggio’s? Or Ripken’s? Or Griffey’s? Or Arnold and Danny Devito in Twins?

        • Mike HC says:

          Yes, but as I wrote above, the Uptons are far closer, and comparable as players as those brother combinations. So when looking at comparable players, BJ Upton’s career trajectory should be a pretty close comparison in my opinion, even though their skill sets are off.

          Maybe Justin is better than BJ Upton, but can still be inconsistent and never really put it all together, but still be better than BJ

    • You can make a good argument that Giambi was underrated. As for BJ, yeah, he might be. He has the physical skills but hasn’t quite put it all together. Giambi is not a good comparison.

  56. Rose says:

    Does Sean Rodriguez have a shot at the cycle?

    Sean Rodriguez > Alex Rodriguez

    Pudge Rodriguez

  57. ultimate913 says:

    A-Rod is the suxxor. He K’d when he is supposed to hit a 7-run grand slam. Dere is no wai he can be da centaur of centaurssssssssssss,s.

    • bexarama says:

      I was actually shocked that he didn’t hit a home run there. After all, a ST game where the Yankees are down by 7 runs is pretty much the definition of meaningless and we all know A-Rod only hits HRs when it’s meaningless!

  58. Rose says:

    Chamberlain: 1.1 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 5 ER = (SAFE)

  59. bexarama says:

    Kei Igawa for the fifth starter!!!!

  60. Andy says:

    Anyone know why can’t we get updated box scores during spring training games?

  61. I think Igawa is now the dark horse favorite for the 5th spot.

  62. BigBlueAL says:

    Definitely agree with a couple of comments above, Igawa has the inside track for the 5th starter’s spot. Or at the least as the 8th inning guy.

  63. Riddering says:

    Dammit, Cano, that should have been a triple.

  64. Rose says:

    The best is this line:

    Whelan: 0.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 0 K, — ERA

    Hilarious. The guy was so bad his ERA isn’t even calculable.

  65. bexarama says:

    Longoria sucks defensively! Why didn’t he make that play!
    /if Rays fans were Yankee fans’d

  66. Hughesus Christo says:


  67. ShuutoHeat says:

    Cervelli!! /swoons

  68. JackISBACK says:

    Thats a bloop hit in Comerica!

  69. ultimate913 says:

    You’re Cashmoney. Cano has a .350(avg)/.440(obp)/.610(slg) during the 2010 season. Do you listen to offers? If so, what would it take for you to consider it? Or do you try to extend him right then and there? Or do you continue with your “rules” and let the contract expire?

  70. bexarama says:

    Yankees on Deck talk? YES!!!

  71. Hughesus Christo says:

    Jack Curry isn’t cool enough for these ST interviews. He should be wearing a suit at all times. I’m looking forward to the return of sexual tension theater with Lil’ Kim.

  72. Hughesus Christo says:

    I have waited long enough. WHERE THE MITRE IS JESUS?

  73. BigBlueAL says:

    Im gonna miss David Cone on YES this season.

  74. Furkmaniak? Hah. He must be a furry.

  75. Drew says:

    The Melkman delivered two hits today. Nice

  76. ultimate913 says:

    Did anyone notice the “ICWUDT” moment?

  77. bexarama says:

    “bowels of the stadium”? ew.

    Bring the smart please, Curry.

  78. bexarama says:


  79. Drew says:

    Oh shit teh Jesus is in!



  81. Drew says:

    Ice Cold, Weber then Jesus?

  82. I still don’t get why Corona is on the 40-man. Anyone care to explain the rationale?

  83. JackISBACK says:

    Honestly, does Jesus look huge or not? I mean the top of his helmet when he was crouching was at like shoulder height of the batter.

    But from catching standpoint, he looked good. I was half hoping the guy on first would steal, just so I could see his arm, and how fast he is with his release.

  84. Drew says:

    Are you shitting me. I don;t give a shit about an interview right now.

  85. Hughesus Christo says:

    I don’t know about you guys, but Jesus looks pretty small IN THE TOP RIGHT OF MY SCREEN BECAUSE THEY’RE INTERVIEWING CERVELLI.

  86. Drew says:

    He’s got a little Swisher bit wiggle.

  87. BigBlueAL says:

    Damn, Montero just turned 20 this past Nov?? Shit.

  88. Alex S says:

    darn i wanted to see Jesus pick up a hit

  89. bexarama says:

    Don’t you dare hit the Jesus!!!!


    (wanted to see Zeus shed some Tampa blood there)

  91. If that guy managed to injure Montero, I would personally find a way to set his family on fire.

  92. ShuutoHeat says:

    ….Even Cerve was trying to speed up the interview so we can see Jesus in his all glory. But Curry kept up with his onslaught of questions.

  93. Yo, don’t kill the Jesus.

  94. bexarama says:

    That tumble on the bag was almost as funny as Sean Rodriguez’s fielding earlier.

  95. BigBlueAL says:

    Michael Kay and his self-deprecating humor.

  96. Drew says:

    So what exactly does Tino add to the broadcast that Kenny cannot? Makes no sense to me.

  97. Furmaniak coughs up the (hair)ball.


  98. Hughesus Christo says:

    Mystique and Aura decided to head down to Tampa for spring training this year. They were tired of all the snow.

  99. Gorecki is going to ruin this because he has virtually no talent and is entirely composed of grit.

    I’m calling it.

  100. JackISBACK says:


    I just want to see Jesus bat again.

  101. See, Joba was just pitching to the score.

  102. Damn, nice play by whoever that guy was.


  104. This Duff guy’s going to be a mainstay in our bullpen.


  105. JackISBACK says:

    He didn’t block that ball, BUST!!!

  106. You walked a guy named “Furkmaniak”?

  107. Bases empty grand-slam or you’re a bust, HeyZeus.

  108. JackISBACK says:

    My day is ruined!

  109. Mike HC says:

    If Montero is mashing in AAA, and Nick Johnson gets injured, two things which are at least decently possible, will Montero become the Yankees DH for the foreseeable future?

  110. JackISBACK says:

    Obviously, a pissed off Jesus injured Swindle for striking him out! You don’t anger Jesus, RJ!

  111. Tom Zig says:

    So I didn’t read all 350+ comments but are people actually freaking out? Or is it just you knuckleheads screwing around?

    • We’re all screwing around but I’m sure some fans out there think it’s 2012 on the Mayan calender.

    • bexarama says:

      Some people are genuinely freaking out. It’s worse in other places, I’d think (I saw, on another site, someone saying Dave Eiland was the worst pitching coach in the majors and that there’s “no excuse” for what we saw from Hughes and Joba because of what Price and Hellickson did). But I think most people here have things in perspective.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      Personally, I’m not thrilled with where the velocity was at for both Hughes and Chamberlain, but I’m sure it will go up a few ticks as they build up arm strength. It’s hard to get upset at all no matter what happens when it’s this early.

      I’m sure no one’s really freaking out, just mocking anyone who might be freaking out.

  112. bexarama says:

    OMG the Yankees have a losing record. Fire everyone.

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