Will Jeter cost the Yankees more than just money?

Only small personnel shifts remain for the Yanks
2010 Season Preview: Designated table-setter

As the season draws near, the big story isn’t whether or not the team can successfully defend their World Championship, but how the Derek Jeter‘s contract situation will play out after the season. And they say Yankee fans are too focused on the now. We’ve already discussed it ad nauseum here, addressing issues like the possibility that Jeter will ask for six years, or an ownership stake, and that extending him now would be a mistake. Mike Vaccaro came up with another angle today, saying that the Captain’s next contract has already cost them a shot at their shortstop of the future.

As you probably remember, the Yanks had their more than fair $8.5M offer to Cuban shortstop Adeiny Hechevarria rejected over the weekend because the 20-year-old had concerns about how he would fit into the organization with Jeter entrenched at his favorite position. He instead headed north of the border to Toronto, who paid him $10M and offered him a crystal clear picture of how he fit into the organization’s future.

Of course, in the grand scheme of things I doubt Jeter’s presence mattered. Chances are Hechevarria would have taken the extra $1.5M from the Blue Jays regardless of who the Yankees had at shortstop. After improving his defense considerably the last two years, there’s no immediate need to move Jeter off of the only position he’s ever played as a professional, so the need for a fill-in is lessened, at least at the moment. There’s always the chance of a Roberto Alomar fall from grace, but it would be a shock to everyone if things played out like that, Jeter and the Yankees included.

I’m not going to fret about Jeter’s inevitable extension costing the Yanks a chance at Hechevarria, there’s more than one way to find a shortstop of the future after all. And besides, this was a rather unique situation. Players with the kind of profile and hype as Hechevarria are the exception, not the rule. The organization seems to be making nothing but smart baseball decisions these days, so I”m confident they’ll find a more than adequate way to replace Jeter at short when the time comes. Whether that’s through the draft, or a temporary stop-gap solution, or a big money free agent signing, I don’t know. I would be surprised if they get caught off guard and end up having to run Ramiro Pena out there 150 games a year.

The Yankees and Jeter will reach an agreement on a new contract after the season, I’m 99.9999% sure of it, and chances are they’re going to overpay him (possibly grossly) for past contributions. It’s not an ideal situation, but the Yankees are one of the few teams able to overpay a homegrown star like that, plus the negative PR that would come from anything but a new deal would be staggering. Jeter knows this, and he also knows that New York is the best place for him, both in terms of marketability and where he is at this point of his career.

Photo Credit: Gene J. Puskar, AP

Only small personnel shifts remain for the Yanks
2010 Season Preview: Designated table-setter
  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Of course, in the grand scheme of things I doubt Jeter’s presence mattered. Chances are Hechevarria would have taken the extra $1.5M from the Blue Jays regardless of who the Yankees had at shortstop.


  • A.D.

    But maybe the next Latin prospect will, or the one after that, prospects who also might not be inclined to wait for Jeter’s skills to erode.

    Given that the vast majority of top latin prospects are 16/17 and thus at least 4 years away from the majors, this really isn’t a worry.

  • Jimmy

    I’d guess that if the Yankees offered $10M + $1, he’d be in pinstripes today.

    • http://yanksdraftsandprospects.blogspot.com/ Jake H

      If the Yankees valued him at 8.5 million why would they up their offer? That was how the old Yankees did business. Now they value a player at a $ amount and if they go over that they let them walk.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        I don’t think that’s what Jimmy was saying.

      • Shits and Giggles

        Reply fail.

      • Spaceman.Spiff

        I think Jimmy was trying to say, sure Hech can say he had concerns about his future at SS with the Yankees but if the Yankees had offered a higher contract than the Jays, he’d be a Yankee right now, regardless of his “concerns”.

        Cause money talks.

        • Jimmy

          That is what I meant. I think they say things like they “had concerns about how he would fit into the organization with Jeter entrenched at his favorite position” to make it look like they aren’t money-grubbers like the rest of us. For a few extra dollars from the Yanks, it would be “the Yankees are the only organization I ever wanted to play for, yada, yada, yada”. No problem with taking the money, just keep it honest.

  • A.D.

    Now, the Yankees aren’t likely to find themselves in the quandary the Orioles created for themselves not long ago by refusing to believe that Cal Ripken would ever get too old to play

    More the issues was the O’s haven’t produced much in their farm outside of Bedard & Markakis leading up to very recent memory & they’ve basically been terrible since 1997, which didn’t have much to do with Ripken. Nice summary from BA on the O’s of late:

    Since Baltimore won the American League East and went to the AL Championship Series in 1997, the team not only hasn’t returned to the playoffs but also hasn’t finished above .500—and it hasn’t even been particularly close. If not for the complete ineptitude of the Royals and Pirates, more people might have noticed that the Orioles just completed their 12th straight losing season.

    • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

      “more the issues was”

      oh god…MY EYES!!!

    • Januz

      The Oriole situation is very similiar to the Clippers, and Islanders……… Bad Ownership. Theow in the fact this team plays 54 games against the Yankees, Sox, & Rays, does not help.

  • A.D.

    There would be far more merit to this idea (though author’s defense he shoots it down on Hechevarria) if he had taken less money to go to the Jays because he liked the prospects better.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size


      An extra 1.5M gets rid of a lot of dead hookers, lemme tell ya.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        This. Well not the dead hooker part(though true).

        But of course he takes the $1.5 million extra now. Let’s say he makes it in the big leagues, how old will he be when he’s a free agent again? It’s not like he signed a lifetime contract, and while it’s a tiny part, if he can get to the majors quicker with the Jays, he gets his next big payday quicker.

      • Rose

        An extra 1.5M gets rid of a lot of dead hookers, lemme tell ya.

        Mitch: I’ve never seen so many dead hookers in all my life!
        Bystander: Lord knows I have.

  • grouchonyy

    #2 (for DJ) Troy Tulowitski of the Rockies looks like an excellent replacement for Jeter. He has at least two years(probably three) before he reaches free agency. Give Jeter 3@25 per with a small ownership stake if he steps aside then as opposed to a mutual option.

    • http://yanksdraftsandprospects.blogspot.com/ Jake H

      He is signed through 2013 with an option for 2014. My guess is that he won’t be available until after the 2014 season unless he signs another extension.

      • Hey ZZ

        Hanley is also signed through 2014. Could be an interesting winter if they both hit FA.

        • JGS

          Yes but Hanley starts to get expensive after 2011, to the point where I wouldn’t be shocked to see his name thrown around next winter and him actually traded the winter after that. Even leaning on Loria to hand out bigger contracts doesn’t mean he won’t get around having to pay them

          • Hey ZZ

            Of course. Either way it is far to in the future to speculate. Even contract reasons aside who knows what kind of players these guys are in 2015. That is why I said could be interesting.

    • Reggie C.

      Troy hits free agency 2015. To detach him from the Rox would take a Montero level prospect to start with plus Hughes.

  • A.D.

    or an ownership stake

    Didn’t we essentially determine that this isn’t possible per MLB rules?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      We did. Player-owners are non-kosher in all three major North American sports leagues.

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        No doubt to protect the owners from their own stupidity.

        • Thomas

          That’s pretty much the exact reason. Many of the ownership rules came into effect when Ted Turner decided to manage a Braves game for publicity.

          • A.D.

            Was it for publicity, I thought he literally wanted to be the manager.

            • Thomas

              I think Turner says he really wanted to manage, I believe MLB was afraid others would do it for publicity/fun. IIRC

      • http://twitter.com/Cnight_UP Coach6423

        Jake (unveils poster), Do you think may is too early for a Roger Dorn night????

  • JohnC

    There are at least 3 good SS prospects in this June’s draft who are considered first rounders. Manny Machado, Yordy Cabrera, and Garin Cecchini. Any of those could be the Yanks SS of the future.

    • Bo

      Just like Carmine A??

      • Tom Zig

        Andrew Brackman will be the SS of the future.

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    I would think the Yankess have 3-4 years to solve this problem internally. if not, then they should be able to sign away Red Sox great and Future HOFer, Jed Lowrie.

    • Sean

      on the topic of internally internally….what’s the deal with the Angelini kid in the minors?–he was supposed to be the next coming when he was drafted…NYY gave him the full treatment (visit to the stadium etc)…I know he had a real rough start in the minors and i haven’t heard a word about him since–non-prospect? too young to tell?

      • A.D.

        He’s sucked it up for 2 years

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        So far he seems to be a practice player. Plays great at instructs and practice, but it comes time to play actual games, he just can’t put it together.

      • Accent Shallow

        He hasn’t hit, and he’s made a ton of errors. He’s still young enough to turn it around and become a useful player, possibly even a starter, but he’d better do it soon.

        At this point, though, I doubt he’s in the Yankees’ long-term plans. If they’re looking for someone from the farm to replace Jeter, it’d be someone who’s progressed.

      • Reggie C.

        Some kids shouldve gone to college first and developed alongside similarly talented peers. Angellini is one of those kids.

        • Bo

          And there arent talented peers in Class A and rookie ball??

  • Reggie C.

    If there’s someone in baseball who can tune out the contract extension noise its Dj. I think he gets 4 yrs if he replicates last season’s offense/defensive rejuvenation.

  • mustang

    Cashman took a wasteland of a farm system and made it into something useable. He managed to turn over this team while keeping it competitive and bring home a championship. I may rip the guy for this move or that move, but overall the guy is a genius. When the time comes Cashman will find a replacement for Jeter I have no doubts.

  • Geek

    Hechevarria is at this point, a prospect. How much does anyone really want to gamble on that?

    A-Rod and Jetter are close in age and do you really want to spend a huge amount of money on a issue 3 years from now, I think not.

    I am sure the Yankees know what they are doing, and the writers have to fill space on the page.

    • Bo

      So you never want to sign a prospect for a lot of money because its all a gamble??

  • ned

    Of course Jeter will cost the Yankees, and it will be good and bad. They will overpay him on a yearly basis, but more important to their future, they will guarantee him too many years.

    He is a great player, but he can’t stay that way forever, no matter how much we want him to. People say Jeter will do the right thing when the time comes because “he always has”.

    That is debatable and until it happens, we don’t know. If he wanted to be classy and do what’s best for the Yankees, he would take a series of 2 year contracts. I have no problem if he is overpaid.

    The Yankees need to develop a real plan for the SS position. Right now they seem afraid to, in spite of their recent attempt to sign Hechevarria- I know the guy probably took the extra cash from Toronto. Knowing pro players, most go for the money no matter what they say philosophically.

    The Yankees and Jeter need to sit done and work out a real plan together. The past is littered with too many superstars who hung on too long, and whose egos tarnished their careers and their teams. I’m not saying Jeter will do this, but I’m not saying he won’t.

    • whozat

      “The Yankees need to develop a real plan for the SS position. Right now they seem afraid to”

      Please show any evidence of this, that they’ve been “afraid” to. Please discuss how your evidence can’t be explained by the following confounding factors:
      1) high-upside shortstops in the draft are extremely valuable and likely to be snapped up by other teams, making it tough to find one that way
      2) Latin American signings are even YOUNGER than drafted kids, so you’d only start seeing kids signed in about 2006 showing up in AA now, and their physical development can push them off SS pretty easily.
      3) Teams usually only acquire high-upside prospects in trades when they ship a valuable veteran to a contender late in the season, or trade a somewhat young guy in the offseason. The Yanks haven’t been in a position to do this in years.
      4) prospects bust. To “develop a plan”, you have to gamble on young, athletic players like Angelini and CJ Henry and wait. Sometimes none of your gambles work.
      5) You’re working with limited resources, and there were bigger problems over the last several years than covering SS in 2013.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        My false narrative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your silly facts

    • CS Yankee

      I don’t think the Yankees have been afraid to plan for SS. In fact they previously have drafted SS’s, have Arod on the team, and are not in dire straits in this position.

      Please realize that Jeter talent comes along every few decades to the position at best…enjoy what we have while we have it. BP has only 8 SS listed in the top 100 (none in the top 18).
      Look at the current MLB SS’s…what, maybe 5 total studs?

      Yankees would be fine with a 4 year deal with a couple of 1 year options (easily obtainable). Let the Cap’t get 3,500 hits and solidify the Yankees having the greatest SS of all time. He’ll have 6-8 rings and mosst of the hardware obtainable by then.

  • Beamish

    There is no way Jeter signs a contract for less than 6 years. If Alex get paid through age 42 then Derek get paid through age 42. That is where the real over-payment will come in.

    Absent some gimmicky 1 year at $50 million, plus indefinite mutual options at $5 million per year; he will sign for 6 years at $20-25/year.

    • http://www.audiencesounds.com/ Templeton “Brendog” Peck

      that will never happen. this isn’t drayton moore or ed wade here.

    • ned

      I agree with you that he probably wouldn’t sign a short contract.

      The difference between him and ARod is that Jeter sees himself as “The Short Stop”, while ARod, in spite of his ego, sees himself as “The Player”.

      ARod was willing to forgo his ego and switch from one of the top SS in MLB to play 3B; winning the WS and his pursuit of the HR record were more important to him- of course being overpaid didn’t hurt.

      I guess the question is whether any of these overpaid superstars will keep their egos in-check. Will Jeter accept less and if necessary switch positions? Will ARod DH? Will Posada ever willingly step aside?

  • r.w.g.

    I really don’t want the team to extend Jeter beyond two years.

    Just goes to show how absolutely dreadful and MORONIC that 10 year contract to Alex Rodriguez was. The idea of giving a 37 year old shortstop “just” a two-year deal is unthinkable.

    We all better hope Alex is like the best old-as-dirt player ever and that Jeets is right behind.

    • http://nytimes.com Gardimentary

      We also had better hope that Arod doesn’t take anymore steroids.

      • r.w.g.

        I’m more worried about the contract now because he’s not taking steroids.

        • Accent Shallow

          But we don’t have any evidence that he was taking anything post-2003, and MLD did implement tough testing in 2005, prior to his huge 2007.

          Now, maybe he still is on something regardless, but we’ll never know unless he fails a test or confesses.

          • r.w.g.

            The Union was tipping drug tests.

            • Accent Shallow

              Got a cite for that?

              • r.w.g.

                It was reported by Sports Illustrated. You seriously don’t remember this?

                Why do people feel the need to defend Alex when someone makes a steroid comment?

                Let me just get my side out here.. I don’t care about steroids. They weren’t being tested for and everyone looked the other way. Nobody was breaking any baseball rules and pitchers were juiced, too.

                I’m 100% convinced Alex was using since high school. I’m pretty sure he copped HGH off that doctor in Canada. And I don’t think for one second he’s alone.

                Manny got nailed for his fertility drug that he was using to cycle off steroids because the moron got the script in his name.

                The only angle I care about at all when it comes to steroids is whether or not expected production should actually be expected.

              • r.w.g.
    • Hey ZZ

      What an awful time to be a Yankee fan. We have to suffer with Derek Jeter, the best SS in baseball last season at age 35, on a guaranteed contract for the next 4+ years.

      • r.w.g.

        Is this a joke post?

        He’s 36 years old right now. I don’t care what he did last year. It’s nothing but a memory and a banner. He got himself $21MM in the bank for 2009.. he’s already been compensated for it.

        I don’t want to pay him for his age 35 season when he’s 39. Paying for past performance FTL.

        • CS Yankee

          r.w.g. is clueless (at best) to belittle Hey ZZ post.

          Jeter netted maybe 10M$ to the bank.
          You didn’t pay for jack?%#@ of that
          He is top 3 in the game at his position at 35/36

          Let the man make his coin, he has earned it in everyway possible.

          • r.w.g.

            He’s already made his coin. His tax rate isn’t my problem.

            You’re right. I didn’t pay for any of it. It’s impossible for me to know where the money I spent on 15 games (plus $10 sandwiches and $7 beers) went to pay Derek’s salary or the cotton candy guy’s.

            It doesn’t matter. You aren’t comprehending the overall point. Having huge money tied up in Jeter for a long time during his decline phase limits the ability of the team to make a roster move to improve the team in the future if they need to.

        • Hey ZZ

          Then what exactly would you do? You lowball Jeter and he walks. Who do you replace him with? Ramiro Pena?

          It is very easy to sit back and say I do not want to pay for past performance. Then come up with a better alternative for the NYY.

          • r.w.g.

            This is exactly the point I was making in my first post that you jumped on me for.

            If the team didn’t give Alex 3-4 years more than they needed to, they wouldn’t be in this position of having to match those years with Derek.

            • Hey ZZ

              Derek Jeter would be getting more than a 2 year contract regardless of A-Rod’s contract situation.

              • r.w.g.

                Anything more than 3 years and I really hope he’s wearing another uniform.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  But if he demands 4 years and you let him walk, who are we replacing him with at short? We have no internal candidates. Here’s your winter of 2010-2011 free agent SS market:

                  Alex Gonzalez TOR
                  Christian Guzman WAS
                  J.J. Hardy MIN
                  Cesar Izturis BAL
                  Derek Jeter NYY
                  Julio Lugo STL
                  Edgar Renteria SF (if his option isn’t picked up)
                  Jose Reyes NYM (if his option isn’t picked up)
                  Jimmy Rollins PHI (if his option isn’t picked up)
                  Ramon Vazquez PIT

                  You don’t want to overpay for Rollins either, who was never that good and who is already declining offensively. Reyes is a mystery of health maladies and spotty production as well. Hardy is a shell of himself, Guzman is a Jekyll and Hyde…

                  Who is our 2011 SS if you let Jeter walk?

                • r.w.g.

                  Well, there are a number of avenues you could pursue.

                  First thing you do, is don’t worry about replacing that production at SS. You could throw Ramiro Pena out there and sign Brad Hawpe for LF. Trade for Lance Berkman for LF. Get a big bat in LF on a short term contract and just get someone who can play good defense at SS.

                  Gut the farm for Tulowitzki or Ramirez.

                  Every one of these scenarios can have holes poked in them, but we really don’t know what situations will present themselves until the NYY are actively looking and trying to make them happen.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Given some of the options you presented (such as trading valuable prospects for Berkman, Tulowitzki, Ramirez) or signing an offense-intensive LF like Hawpe (who is HORRID defensively) and putting an offensive black hole like Peña in SS…

                  … overpaying Jeter a year or two is starting to sound way more palatable in comparison. I’d rather give Jeter 6 years than gut the farm to trade for someone else’s elite SS, and I’d rather give Jeter 6 years than make Ramiro Peña our everyday SS.

                • r.w.g.

                  You could trade for a stop-gap like Jack Wilson, some Japanese team could post someone.

                  There are options we don’t know about because right now other teams don’t think the Yankees need a SS and the Yankees aren’t looking.

                  I threw Hawpe’s name out there because he’s available for just money. Yeah, he can’t play defense but I’m not convinced 37 year old Jeter is going to be any better. Hats off the Captain for the remarkable turn around on D, but we don’t know how long the turn around is going to last.

                • Hey ZZ

                  The alternative scenarios you presented is one of the main reasons I was originally “mocking” to borrow a word from you. Many Yankee fans are complaining about Jeter’s impending contract situation. Yet, they provide no reasonable or sound alternative.

                • r.w.g.

                  Gutting the farm for Tulowitzki sounds awesome to me, actually.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  What are you prepared to give up to get Tulo?

                  He’s the face of the franchise, signed to a reasonably priced long term extension, and he’s not a 30+ year old pitcher who’s a constant injury/decline risk. He’s not yet entered his athletic prime. He’s already an MVP candidate. Colorado also not going broke or cash strapped. They’re contending right now and have no need to rebuild or reload. They’ll want and demand a big league star AND a legit future star AND a few quality prospects.

                  Take whatever the price point was for the Jays/Indians trading away their various 28-32 year old Cy Young winners, and DOUBLE IT.

                  Start with Cano + Joba/Hughes + Montero, and then keep going, because that’s not enough.

                • r.w.g.

                  Yeah I’d go Cano, Joba/Hughes, Montero, McCallister, Romine/Higashioka, and Murphy/Heathcott.

                  If at all possible, Cano is the player I would try and keep out of the deal.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  That’s just crazy. Tulo is the shit, but giving up all that isn’t a sound organizational strategy.

                  Way too expensive in prospects. Be patient; sign Jeter to an extension (which won’t be 6 years long). Things will work themselves out.

                • CS Yankee

                  Hawpe is a stick and former pitcher…throws above 90…but is really, really, really poor OF…maybe bottom 5 of regulars in the game.

                  Tulo is bigger, stronger than Jeter and can throw up Grandy-type numbers while playing the sixth position. He would of replaced Helton as the Rox poster child except he has a near-Sheff attitude.

                  Jeter for 4 more, with 2 one year options. My point was I don’t care what he costs the corporation as I’m not the majority stockholder. Bad money is spent throghout sports to draw revenue and win.

                  Jeter has produced like few others in the game, first rule in Vegas…”don’t bet against a streak” and since we have house money…let’s just all enjoy the ride.

                • r.w.g.

                  I hope you’re right, tommie.

                  I love Derek and everything he’s done and I’m sure I’m projection my fears of a 40 year old Alex Rodriguez batting .245 with shit range at 3B on to DJ.. I just hope you’re right.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Tulo is bigger, stronger than Jeter and can throw up Grandy-type numbers while playing the sixth position. He would of replaced Helton as the Rox poster child except he has a near-Sheff attitude.

                  A.) Tulo’s “attitude” didn’t dissuade them from giving him a phat extension and making him their new poster child anyway.
                  B.) http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/couldof.html (safe)

                • CS Yankee

                  Well, they are a well run org

                  Matt Holliday was offered much more, but they felt that if they couldn’t get him long term tied up for around 100M$, they would trade him. They haven’t had to spend that money (as of yet).

                  Beane was praised for the trade at the time (everyone knew he would recycle him come July) but the Rox improved in several areas (both short & long term). Meanwhile, Billy had to sell low and was left getting much less from the Cards due to Matt’s so-so start. Hollywood will be much kinder to Billyball though.

                • CS Yankee


                  Read your link…thank you!

                  It is a fact that I’m more spoken than written. I’m trying to get it right.

                  I’m more of a data, numbers, operations minded guy. Friends know me either as a businessman, baseball junkie, or flyfisherman…not so much as a “wordsmith”

                  Don’t give up on me and toss me a barley-pop if I get it right.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              But your point is based around a dubious premise: That Derek will insist on a 6 year contract because he will demand to be paid through his age 42 season just like Alex.

              Where is the justification for the certainty of that premise? I don’t recall seeing Derek or Casey Close pull a Johnny Damon/Scott Boras and say “If you’re going to offer a contract that’s a single day shorter than 6 years, don’t bother offering anything at all”.

              Would Derek like to get a 6 year contract? Sure, of course he would. Does that mean he wouldn’t sign a 3/4/5 year deal if that’s the best that he and the team could realistically to agree to? No, it doesn’t.

              Alex’s contract may play a large role in the Jeter negotiations, it may play a small one, it may play no role at all. It’s tough to say. Not remotely as set in stone as you’re portraying it, though.

              • r.w.g.

                Okay, thank you tommie for a genuine response and genuine criticism instead of calling me clueless and waxing poetic about DJ’s tax bracket.

                You’re right. I am basing my premise off Jeter asking to be “awarded” similarly in some fashion to Alex. If this isn’t the case, then I don’t have anything to worry about.

                I just don’t like the idea of having 50-60 million tied up in 40 year old Alex and Derek. That could be the late 60s all over again.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I just don’t like the idea of having 50-60 million tied up in 40 year old Alex and Derek. That could be the late 60s all over again.

                  Ah, gotcha.

                  (looks up late ’60s Yankee teams to see which aging, overpaid superstars with declining production hamstrung the Yankee payroll that r.w.g. is speaking of; can’t find any such players who fit this description; is confused)

                • r.w.g.

                  No, tommie.

                  The team would be bad. The late 1960s reference implies that the team would be bad.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Okay, gotcha.

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        I’m sure you’ll be saying that when 39-year-old Jeter can’t man his position too. Even Cal Ripken knew when to move off short.

        • ned

          But where is he going to move to? ARod is at 3B, Tex is at 1B, and Jeter has no OF experience.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            Jeter has no OF experience.

            Experience: something you never have until just after when you need it.

            Yes, he has no OF experience. Move him there anyway. He’ll get it.

            • Hey ZZ

              Jeter may be more valuable to the Yankees as a poor defensive SS but with his offense at that position than in a corner OF spot.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                True, he might. All depends on exactly how good or bad his defense would be at SS or in LF when he’s age 38/39/40. Time will tell.

                • Hey ZZ

                  Yeah. Either way at SS or LF I just do not see him or his contract dragging down the Yankees.

        • Hey ZZ

          Who is to say Jeter cannot man his position at age 39? All we heard for years was Jeter was done at SS and at 35 he comes up with an incredible defensive performance. All we heard last year was the Yankees cannot win a WS with such an old SS.

          There will be a defensive drop-off from his performance last year, but he is still producing at a very high level offensively to compensate for that. Cal Ripken was not even close to the player Jeter was at 35. Ripken put up a 3.4 WAR at age 35. In fact, from 31 on he was an average player at best.

          The 5th highest WAR from a SS in 2009 was Marco Scutaro. There is an dearth of talent at SS in MLB and will probably remain that way for the foreseeable future.

          If Jeter is 39 and playing SS for the Yankees, I will be a very happy Yankee fan.

          • Jimmy

            And in case you don’t remember, Mo has been getting old for the past 5-6 years.

    • Bo

      Why does it matter?

      They could give Jeter a 20 yr contract and it wouldnt matter. Dead money on contracts have not stopped the Yankees from operating and improving. They have a 5 mill starter sitting in Scranton the past 3 yrs. They dont care.

  • Hey ZZ

    **There will most likely be a defensive drop-off…**

    • Hey ZZ

      damn. reply fail.

  • mryankee

    This is what part of what Oppenheimer and crew are paid for is to find someone to replace Jeter.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Yes. You are correct. Well said.

    • Bo

      They’ve done a fantastic job of adding premium bats to the system the past decade thru the draft.

      Might be time for some new blood in that dept

  • Mike R

    I’m not even going to read this article. Vacaro is an absolute air-head. Do you think that if the Yankees really had THAT much faith in Hechevarria they would have gave him an extra 1.5 Million. My bet is Hechevarria didn’t want to play in New York because anyone who knows anything know that Jeter has ENORMOUS shoes to fill. That being said, Hechevarria is definitely a PROSPECT, hence the word he hasn’t showed anyone anything that amazing. I’d be surprised to see this guy turn out to be much of anything. If he does turn out to be a good player, more power to him. Derek Jeter’s my shortstop, no matter what it takes. It’s a shame that someone is actually getting paid to right articles on how Jeter is hurting the Yankees future at shortstop. If he retired now everyone would claim that Jeter screwed the Yanks, give me a break Vacaro, you’re garbage.

  • Rick B

    Even if the yankees finish in dead last for the final 3 years of Jeter’s next contract because he is old, fat, slow, refuses to move from shortstop, goes blind in one eye and can’t hit, the manager doesnt bench him because he owns the team, and he is taking up the entire payroll by himself I will still be thankful for the 5+ championships that we probably couldnt have won without him.