May
28

Yanks have two kinds of players on their summer shopping list

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According to Jon Heyman, the Yankees’ shopping list for the summer includes two kinds of a players: a relief pitcher, and a hitter to presumably replace the perpetually injured Nick Johnson. Yesterday we heard they were likely to look for a versatile outfielder, which I guess could help form some kind of four-headed outfielder/designated hitter monster. As for the bullpen … meh. I hate trading for relievers just because they’re so volatile. Why give up an asset for complete unpredictability?

Is it just me, or does it seem like a summer rumor season started a little early this year?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    It ain’t you, but it’s also later in the season than I think we realize.

    • Brad Toughy

      It’s June in a few days. I’ve realized that once I started fulltime work, time seems slower. When I was in college and then out of it and unemployed, I’d wake up one morning and wonder where the last 2 months had gone.

  • pat

    Mike, it gets late earlier around here.

  • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

    it was 90 degrees a couple days ago….

  • WIlliam

    It’s the Oswalt talks that have got things going ealry.

    • WIlliam

      *early

  • Poopy Pants

    Why would they need to replace Nick Johnson? He has a really high OBP.

    • yoo-boo

      They are just exploring several options. It is natural to do that when you have a weak link.

      Vazques struggling prompting Yanks to look for new starter.
      Johnson being on 60 day DL prompting Yanks to look for a solid OBP hitter.

      No matter what people say, Yanks stay with in house craps until July or August. That is final.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        No matter what people say, Yanks stay with in house craps until July or August. That is final.

        Unless you work for the Yankees you don’t know that. And I doubt you work for the Yankees.

    • TheLastClown

      Because the only OBP he’s got right now is On Bench Percentage. And you’re right, it’s 1.000.

      Plus he’s going to need to rehab the wrist. I wouldn’t count on too many contributions from NJ this season, unfortunately.

      • mustang

        This “Because the only OBP he’s got right now is On Bench Percentage. ” is too funny !!!

  • wi-Fi Guy

    Lance Berkman for DH !

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      No thanks. He’s fighting injury issues of his own and we really can’t afford to trade for him and have him break too.

  • http://twitter.com/j_sprouse2213 (The Real) James

    i’m not a big fan of trading for relievers normally….but i’m not on the (chan) HO Train or the Serge Wagon and we really don’t know when/IF we’ll get Ace back.

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      Melancon, Hirsh, Nova (later), McAllister (later), Albaladejo, etc etc. Just throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

        This is the approach I believe should be taken to the bullpen in general, except Albaladejo. I just wished that they tried this when Tyler Clippard was still on the 25 man. Unless they get an actual good reliever (there’s very few in baseball, maybe 15 that are different than the fungible group of relievers) or a good relief prospect, I’m pretty against trading for a reliever.

  • Andrew Brotherton

    What about Carlos Quentin? I think he would make a great get for an extra outfielder/DH.

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      I was going to say something about how he’s too good for a deal like this, then I remembered it’s the White Sox. We can probably get him for a similar package we got Hinske for.

    • DJH

      That’s a great buy low option right there. Plus it would involve Cashman dealing with Kenny Williams and that’s always a good thing.

    • mike c

      manny = better

  • o

    NJ over Damon that was great/

    • Alex S

      its wasn’t NJ over Damon. It was NJ over Matsui and Granderson over Damon. and Matsui isn’t exactly tearing it up this year .238/.311/.394

      • Doug

        neither is damon actually: .276/.380/.417 (.218/.322/.372 in may)

  • FIPster Doofus

    It’s a real shame Johnson got hurt. He was OBPing through the roof despite a poor average and it was only a matter of time before he started hitting.

    • Slappy White

      Its always a shame NJ gets hurt, unfortunately he always gets hurt

  • Slappy White

    I know its off topic (sorry) but ESPNNY is reporting ARod not in lineup tonight. Does anyone know why ?

    • yoo-boo

      he has been DFAed to make a room for Granderson. He gets rest.

      Granderson will bat 2nd hole. Oh my fucking god, Yanks are toast.

    • pat

      Traded for Heath Bell!

  • yoo-boo

    It is official. Winn is gone.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Off topic police. And I know when they start a thread about it you’ll be whining about how slow they are here.

  • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

    I think it’s you working for MLBTR and whatnot. All these national outlets. Sellout!

  • Mr. Sparkle

    I hate trading for relievers just because they’re so volatile. Why give up an asset for complete unpredictability?

    Good point. Can anyone remember the last decent mid-season addition to the Yankee bullpen that was acquired via trade? I can’t think of one offhand. I doubt it will happen this year either. The wild card seems to have especially killed off the possibility of shoring up a bullpen mid-season. GMs hang on to strong bullpen guys like they’re gold…and rightfully so. You’re not getting help on the waiver wire or via a cheap pickup. Anyone who might actually have an impact will be costly.

    • Tim

      Graeme Lloyd in ’96. Terrible in the regular season, unhittable in the postseason.

      • Zack

        Marte too, postseason success came the year after being traded mid-season.

  • Gonzo

    I really can’t think of a good DH or Reliever that I would require good prospects. If it is C or maybe B level prospects sure, but not A.

  • Mattchu12

    Even though it’s too early to really to predict the market, I’d love to see Matt Thornton or Billy Wagner in our bullpen. I’ve always wanted a left that could get both lefts and righties out, but was extra nasty on the lefties. Too many great left handed sluggers in the AL East to risk it.

    Niether the Braves or the White Sox offer the bat we’re supposedly interested in, but I think that we’d be a lot better off promoting Jesus Montero if he heats up than acquire a new bat. Have Montero and Posada share the catching and designated hitter duties, with Frankie Cervelli on the bench as a backup.

    1. Jeter – SS
    2. Swisher – RF
    3. Teixeira – 1B
    4. Rodriguez – 3B
    5. Cano- 2B
    6. Posada – DH
    7. Granderson – LF
    8. Montero – C
    9. Gardner – CF

    Tell me that lineup, with a CC-AJ-Hughes-Andy-Vazquez rotation, Cervelli-Russo-Pena-Thames bench, and a bullpen with arms like Rivera-Joba-Thornton/Wagner-Robertson-Marte bullpen isn’t one of best (if not the best) overall teams in baseball. We don’t need a bat, we might not even need an arm, but we definitely don’t need a bat.

    Especially if this Miranda/Thames platoon produces some solid results. Thames can crush lefties as a DH and I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Miranada, the dude has some serious power.

    • Zack

      I can tell you that without those additions the team is still one of the best teams in baseball.

      There are some problems though:
      1. Montero isn’t ready for the majors
      2. Braves have to be out of the WC in July, no guarantee that happens, they still have a quality rotation, and in the NL that gives you a chance. Plus it’s Cox’s last year, they’re going to be buyers to try and make it.
      3. Sox have a 3m option on Thornton, and will probably non-tender Jenks, even if they dont it’s unlikely they’d move Thornton

      • Mattchu12

        I agree 110%, this team is one of the best in the majors.

        1. So far, that appears to be the case. Promoting Montero is 100% contingent on him heating up and making some strides as a player. Having said that, I am not sure his bat has much more developing that the Major Leagues would hamper. It’s more about his defense I’d say.

        2. Just pointing out a quality lefty I’d love to have in the bullpen. It’s far too early to say that who is going to be a contender and who isn’t, who will be available and who won’t be. The Braves are likely to be contenders from where I am sitting, but I’d think they would be willing to move Wagner as their pitching is a strength as you noted and the do have Takashi Saito. They need a bat, I don’t know if we will have a bat to give them, but I would think they’d be willing to move Wagner to get one.

        3. Almost the same story here as stated above. White Sox just don’t have a chance as far as I’m concerned with the Twins in the AL Central and the Yankees/Red Sox/Rays/Rangers/Angels looking like far better Wild Card candidates. Just rumors support this theory, but like I said with Wagner, it was more looking at the kind of reliever I’d want to acquire.

  • Michael Kay but not THE

    it seemed like from 96-03 as we headed to the middle of the summer was when all of the big sluggers like Juan Gone, McGwire, Sosa, Canseco, Justice, Fielder, Matt Williams and even lower level sluggers like Henry Rodriguez & my personal favorite Lee Stevens (purely for how ridiculously excited a friend of mine was when he picked up Lee Stevens for his fantasy team and thought he had saved his season) would be at least on the block till the deadline.

    Even knowing what I know about most of those guys now, I kinda miss when those kind of “exciting” bats were attainable to a stale lineup, no matter how temporary the drought is. Carlos Quentin could probably be had for a respectable offer, but no one of any magnitude is likely to be acquired for a minimal package unless the Red Sox need to fleece the Pirates or Indians for someone.

    Hopefully the Thames/Miranda platoon can get it done at DH.

  • mikeyPie

    Good grief…please stop copying Cashman when refering to human beings as “asset’s”.

  • mike c

    javy for manny or ethier. a 5th starter that we can’t use in the playoffs is something we don’t need. especially when we have 4 other sick starters to work with

  • dalelama

    None of this will matter unless the Captain, Tex, and Arod start earning their big salaries by boosting their production.

  • mike c

    “Why give up an asset for complete unpredictability?”
    when your asset is one of the worst starters in the AL, unpredictability may be better

  • Brad Toughy

    If the Nationals fall back somewhat in the tight NL East, does Adam Dunn make sense for the Yanks. He’s a masher who the Yanks could hide at DH. He fits the Nick Johnson OBP school of thought but adds some power to the mix with a tad more durability.

  • Carl Robinette

    BRAD. HAWPE. BABY.

  • jesse

    As a Nationals and Yankees fan, I’ve always liked Austin Kearns. he could fit in at DH or as a backup OF

    • jesse

      Never mind, I should have looked at his BABIP first.