Open Thread: A day off before the co-aces


Photo Credit: Tony Gutierrez, AP

The productive yet surprisingly stressful west coast trip is over, at least until the Yankees head back out there next week. They were able to enjoy an off day today before welcoming the Mariners into town, who are kind enough to throw Cliff Lee on Tuesday and Felix Hernandez on Wednesday. They were also nice enough to re-acquire Russell Branyan just in time for him to hit another homer off the restaurant in centerfield. Thankfully Seattle’s offense is so inept (.295 team wOBA) that it’s like having nine Yuniesky Betancourt’s (also a .295 wOBA) in the lineup, so the Yanks certainly have a chance.

Anyway, here’s tonight’s open thread. Stephen Strasburg takes on the Braves at 7pm ET (airing on ESPN2), and the Mets are playing the Marlins in Puerto Rico. The College World Series Finals (best-of-three) start tonight as well (7:30pm ET, ESPN), with Gerrit Cole and UCLA taking on Jackie Bradley Jr. and South Carolina. Talk about whatever you want, just be cool.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. I gotta say, I love those uniforms. Nice rich navy and solid gray with some light blue, silver, and white accent colors… the Mariners are one of the better dressed teams in the bigs, IMHO.


  2. Sorry if the answer to this is obvious, but it’s hard to keep up with baseball news in Ireland…

    Why is Phil starting tomorrow and Javy on Wednesday? Is it just because of the skipped start and the Yankees not wanting Phil waiting too long before starts?

  3. forensicnucchem says:

    So, who is this Stephen Strasburg I’ve heard 1 or 2 million people talk about today?

    Methinks it’s some fake person, like that ‘King James’ guy.

  4. Marcus says:

    I know MLB schedules are fairly difficult to coordinate, but it seems very strange that they couldn’t somehow figure out a way to keep the Yanks on the west coast for a few more days rather than make them fly back to NYC for one series, then back again to Oakland.

  5. JGS says:

    Well, eight Yunis and Branyan (.355 wOBA)

  6. So, what happened while I was gone?

  7. ESPN Rumor Central blurb headline:

    “Rangers eyeing arms, bats”

    :: head explodes ::

    It’s like a WSJ headline that says “Mutual fund managers look at stocks, bonds”

    • Except this time it has a very different meaning.

      “Arms” means that Tom Hicks is stockpiling assault weapons, because he doesn’t want to give up control of the team to some bankruptcy judge.

      “Bats” refers to Nolan Ryan’s idea that “pitch counts are baloney” despite mountains of medical evidence.

  8. bexarama says:

    Melky > Strasburg, whoah

  9. mike c says:

    i’m going with hughes/CC for the series win

  10. JGS says:

    Did Melky get a foot in there?

  11. Tom Zig says:

    Speaking of uniforms, does anyone own any non-Yankee jerseys?

  12. leon says:

    check out this die-hard kid yankees fan. classic!


  13. VO says:

    Ok so I am new to this twitter thing, what and why do people put the # in front of things. Second what are some good twitters I should add?

  14. Sutt just blew my mind. Dunn would make a perfect DH?! Where does this brilliance come from?

  15. forensicnucchem says:

    Just for the hell of it…

    If Adam Dunn was traded to the Yanks tomorrow, would you bat him 2nd for the great OBP or 6th for the power?

    I think I’d have to go with 6th and put Swish 2nd. Girardi’s head might explode with the back-to-back lefties in Cano and Dunn though.

  16. Mike Axisa says:

    How fuck. Gerrit Cole is a dead ringer for Badger from Breaking Bad.

  17. Operation Venditte says:

    So via MLBTR it says the Royals are actively pushing to trade Jose Guillen and the Yankees could be a prospective suitor oh and the royals are willing to eat salary (He’s due 6.39 million I believe)…What do you guys think? Honestly I dont want him if the Royals are eating salary their going to ask for a larger return.

  18. Ross says:

    Good news? Last time King Felix faced a AL team he gave up 7 runs in 6 innings to the Rangers.

    Bad news? He’s pitched back-to-back complete game 5-hitters.

    Hopefully he’s a bit worn out and the Yankee bats get to him. Not holding my breath, though.

  19. mike c says:

    any idea of what miranda’s trade value might be? id like to see cash try to make a deal for some of toronto’s young pitchers

    • Ross says:

      First of all, for Toronto to trade within the division the trade starts with Montero and goes from there, probably going to give up Nunez too.

      Second, why do we want a pitcher? You could argue this team needs help everywhere except the starting rotation.

      • mike c says:

        bullpen support

        • Ross says:

          Who are you talking about then? When people talk about Toronto’s “good young pitchers” they’re usually referring to Cecil Romero etc who are all starting pitchers. Who is this young bullpen arm?

          • mike c says:

            fwiw heyman tweeted this last week http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyma.....6862553281

            • Ross says:

              Frasor and Downs are not young (nor good) and the other two are starting pitchers.

              • I’d be interested in Downs, he’s a decent LOOGY. At least, he’s a massive upgrade over Loone Bogan. Wouldn’t give up much for him, though, and as we both said, the Jays aren’t trading anyone to us without charging a premium, which makes it a nonstarter.

              • mike c says:

                really? i think downs could be a decent lefty bullpen option.. couldn’t be worse than chan ho park

                • Ross says:

                  He could be, but why trade for a 2nd LOOGY when you pay premium dollar since it’s Toronto?

                  I agree Chan Ho needs to be booted sooner rather than later, but Downs isn’t the guy to replace him. Chan Ho is a 1-inning-guy stuck in a long-man’s role.

                  • vin says:

                    “. Chan Ho is a 1-inning-guy stuck in a long-man’s role.”

                    That’s just because he’s being misused. Reminds me of when Marte first came back to the Yankees in ’08. Girardi used him to get multiple outs quite a few times, but with little success.

                    Right now, Chan Ho needs successful, short outings to get some momentum. He’ll get straightened out.

    • I don’t know exactly what Miranda’s trade value would be, but it’s not high enough to get one of Toronto’s young pitchers (intradivision, no less).

      Toronto’s not trading one of their young hurlers for anyone during a rebuilding process. They’re certainly not trading one of them to a division rival for a 1B/DH (that they don’t even need).

      • mike c says:

        yeah generally i would agree but they seem to be deep in young pitchers right now, and might be looking for a brighter option at 1B than lyle overbay… compound that with all of their low draft picks and they could probably afford to spare an arm for a bat

  20. JGS says:

    Four pitch walk for Strasburg–what a bust

  21. bexarama says:

    ESPN talking about the value of walks.

    Whoah. Whoah. Whoah.

  22. nathan says:

    Cole is unlucky

  23. I would love for Strasburg to pitch in the ASG…then see Cano take him so deep that the ball circles back around the globe before again clearing the fence and hitting a Red Sox fan in the face.

  24. So what’s everyone thinking about this “Predators” thing? I mean, it could be alright–watching people get fucked up by Predators for 90-120 minutes could be pretty cool. But, I’m sure they’ve fucked it up somehow.

  25. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    I live in Mississippi on the gulf. I can’t go fishing because of the oil situation. and now I’m blacked out from getting to see Strasburg pitch. FML

  26. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/.....id=5333971

    Did playing football turn Chris Henry’s brain into a suicidal one? Does the NFL have a serious problem on it’s hands?

    • nathan says:

      That report was a little scary. Playing football is a real death wish. The monetary benefits for the top players hides the so many flameouts who dont sniff the NFL or are bit part players, sacrificing your mid-life for that is just not worth it. But the game is too popular for anything constructive to happen.

  27. nathan says:

    UCLA defense is poor. Cole is getting burned.

  28. nathan says:

    Would hv so loved to see Strasburg v Heyward. The NL ROY will be a fun race to watch.

  29. Ivan says:

    For the all the ridiculous considerations for Strasburg to make the All-sta team, you know who might be the best young pitcher nobody heard of or talks about:

    Mat Latos. Yet not one “analylist” has said that Latos should be on the All-Star team…

  30. What a cluster fuck of a play.

  31. Aluminum bats are such a joke. Off the end of the bat and has enough juice to sail over the 1B head.

    BTW-Cole needs to use his fastball more. Nothing but breaking balls that inning. Last pitch was 97, use it.

  32. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=5337933

    Really? There’s never been a Puerto Rican manager before? That’s just odd. There’s obviously been numerous latino managers; it’s quirky that none of them thus far have been from the one part of Latin America that’s actually part of the United States.


  33. Boone had a .245 OPS against Sheets in 25 PA. Ouch.

  34. Dela G says:

    boy i always forget how good hudson is

  35. Dela G says:

    strasburg is effing unbelievable

    K’d 5 straight

  36. Dela G says:

    why did bobby cox allow hudson to bat? the guy was at over 100 pitches and they need to score runs


  37. That was one of the worst swings ever.

  38. Dela G says:

    boy looks like hudson has a different K zone than strasburg

    that looked like a strike 2 to me.

    oh well

  39. Dela G says:

    looks like the braves are rallying

  40. Mike Axisa says:

    Strasburg’s about to strike out the side. Watch.

  41. No doubt Cole has been victimized by by some seeing eye hits and shoddy defense (including his own) but he’s still pretty wild. Falling behind a lot of hitters despite walking just one. On the plus side, he has a nice, quick easy delivery and just oozes stuff. Easily sits at 94-97 with his fastball, good hard breaking ball and another pitch I can’t quite figure out. If it’s a slider, it’s not sliding all that much, at least not consistently. But at his age, you don’t expect him to be a finished product. He’s still raw, but what an arm.

  42. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Good one Desmond!

  43. Reggie C. says:

    Can someone decipher the NY Knicks’s strategy?

    Having the Dolans fly out to Cleveland to speak with Lebron is to appeal strictly to Lebron’s plan to become the first billionaire athlete. There’s no way the Dolans can or should speak of the actual Knicks team.

    I’ve heard the GM Donnie Walsh will be out in LA to speak to Amare.

    If we miss out on ‘Bron and subsequently Bosh … is there any way we can sign both Amare and Johnson and then swing a trade for Tony Parker?

    • Yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

      idn how the knicks are going to attract lebron and bosh here we need a star point guard in my opinion hopefully we can trade for parker or paul or even monta ellis. I can see the knicks trading chandler and curry for ellis and den signing lebron and bosh.

    • Dirty Pena says:

      Actually, I’d love to hear TSJC’s opinion on this. He’s very optimistic, but I’m not really seeing much right now.

  44. Dela G says:

    man steven strasburg should seriously choke bitches

    how can your SS have 19 errors and it’s not even the end of june??

  45. Kevin says:

    Check it, Mariano’s Wikipedia entry is the featured article of the day:


  46. Carlosologoist in Humid Ass Colombia says:

    I´m a bit late on the uniform topic, but why do some home teams have the names on the back. Personally, I´ve never been a big fan of having the name on the back when you´re playing at home. Since you`re playing at home, everybody knows who you are. No reason to put a name on it. That´s why the Yanks uniforms are the best. Bitches know who you are at home AND on the road.

  47. http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/28/.....pel-video/

    Gives a whole new meaning to ‘Two-way Forward’ huh?

  48. JGS says:

    Man, Strasburg really sucks as this whole tRA+ thing

  49. Kiersten says:

    Reading comments on boston.com really brightens up my day.

      • Kiersten says:

        I could go on and on, but I’ll just highlight a few. These are from Shaugnessy’s latst 2 columns.

        OK enough is enough, sox are so close of taking first place.Now we need theo to go out n make some blockbuster go after a catcher now like suzuki or montero we need a catcher anyway get him now!. Need a 2baseman get jose lopez from Seattle he’s available. they can hold this team together till everyone gets back to health!


        The Yankees have been inconsistent;

        (if having the best or second-best record in baseball all season is inconsistent, I hope we’re inconsistent every year)


        truly heartbreaking. Pedroia is the heart of the team. I’m still surprised that the sox aren’t behind the Orioles right now considering all the injuries.


        Some players, such as Pedroia, Cameron, and Randy Moss, are character players. They come back faster than expected from injuries or play through the injuries. Others, such as Ellsbury (who has the same injury that Moss had) and Lowrie take much longer than expected to come back from an injury.

  50. Dela G says:

    i hate hate hate aaron heilman. that d-bag cost me and my fantasy star dan haren to not get a win

    ugh super sucks

  51. Carlosologoist in Humid Ass Colombia says:

    I fear for the game on Tuesday. Lee has only issued four walks all season. Wednesday the Yanks might have a shot.

  52. phughesisgod says:

    Oh this is pitiful. Apparently, its ok to say Evan Longoria can become the next Derek Jeter off of an argument with BJ Upton which apparently solidified his ascension into being Rays leader for the next how ever many years. Shaking my head at Buster Olney and Steve Berthiaume.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Berthiaume talked about something other than ‘The Nation’?

    • Pete says:

      wow. Longoria may be the next “Jeter” (except, if we’re being honest, better at playing baseball), but it’s not because of his argument with BJ. It’s because he’s really freaking good at baseball, doesn’t take roids (as far as we know), and seems like a pretty good guy.

  53. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    That Ubaldo guys is really good.

  54. Total Dominication says:

    Ubaldo has lost sole possession of the era lead, he’s at this moment tied with JJ.

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