Open Thread: USA vs. Ghana

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I have to admit, the World Cup has sucked me in. USA and Ghana meet in second round today, with the winner advancing to take on Uruguay while the loser goes home. Game starts at 2:30pm ET, and can be seen on ABC. Chat about it here if you want.

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  • Brad Toughy

    Pretty drunk rendition of the national anthem!

  • deuce bag poster

    U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

  • Brad Toughy

    Under/over for disallowed US goals set at 0.5

    • deuce bag poster

      Over.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Damn giveaways.

  • Mike HC

    AT least they are used to playing from behind. The USA does not even start trying until they face some adversity.

  • Brad Toughy

    So much for Ghana not scoring in regular play.

  • Across the pond

    Not a great start at all – but they’ve started bad in all their games so far. Just need to keep it to 1 before the half

  • Across the pond

    US desperately need to settle down. Get the ball down and keep it for 5-10 minutes. Need to take the sting from Ghana’s attack.

  • http://www.twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

    as a child of ghanian parents, its always good to see ghana doing well

  • Gonzo

    I’m surprised no one said there is a RAB curse on this game.

    • VO

      /jinx’d

  • Brian in NH

    love the world cup…hate the roller coaster ride it gives me. USA is starting to look a little more settled since the ghana goal

    • Across the pond

      Yeah signs of life now. Need to be a bit more careful in possesion, Ghana are looking very dangerous on the counter

      • Brian in NH

        I just don’t need them waiting until the 91st minute to score again :-/

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Seems like Ghana has way too much space when they have possession.

    • Across the pond

      They’re moving the ball very quickly. Pulling US all over the place

    • VO

      I agree we need to tighten down the defense, they said the ref hasn’t given out many yellow cards, so there shouldn’t be much of a worry on playing tight defense.

    • Brian in NH

      Ghana definitely is the faster and more athletic team here.

      If all best athletes in the US played soccer instead of basketball and football then we’d probably be dominant. Que sera…

      • futbol

        maybe good but i won’t say dominant. USA athletes aren’t exactly good at teamwork.

        • deuce bag poster

          Not like the French!

        • Brian in NH

          teamwork is socialist and communist!! that must be why all those leftists european and south american counties are good at soccer!!

          but seriously…imagine a team full of guys with the athleticism of people like lebron (or any of our top ballers) or the guys who roam the secondary in the NFL. Its not that they are just fast, they are fast and strong and incredibly skilled with their bodies in some very impressive ways. I bet if LeBron (or even tiger woods for that matter) grew up playing soccer 24/7 instead of being groomed for basketball or golf then maybe we’d have a much better team.

          • futbol

            That’s true.

  • cjc

    well Bradley just basically said way to fuck me now get out to Clark his tournament is over now confidence shot

  • cjc

    fuck gotta score that damn

  • Across the pond

    Crap that was a great chance to get back in this game. Poor miss.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Robbie Findley = not a good striker

    • 24fan

      Is Findley good enough to play as much as he has? I only watch the World Cup, but having watched every game he has been one of the least impressive US players.

  • Brian in NH

    nice save by howard…defense is struggling again like all the other games

  • deuce bag poster

    That was a good save by Howard.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    US game is too slow, esp. as Ghana’s defense is struggling when they play fast. Too much lateral passing.

  • deuce bag poster

    Terrible first half. Yeesh.

  • Across the pond

    Poor half. US look tired, not closing down the ball quickly enough in midield even though they have the extra man in there.

    Possesion wise they’ve been bad. Way too narrow, making it simple for Ghana to keep them out and when they lose the ball Ghana have all the wings to attack.

    They’ll need to spread Ghana about to give themselve more time on the ball. They need to attack Ghana’s fullbacks, thats their weakness.

    They’ve kept it to 1 though so they should take heart from that but they need to up the pace.

  • Brian in NH

    for all you haters out there who are anti world cup a friend just sent this to me via stumbleupon

    http://exiledonline.com/why-so.....up-idiocy/

    a little dated (from 98) but even the hair styles one still holds true since i believe the greatest concentration of faux hawks in the world at any time is at a soccer event.

  • Pat D

    Haven’t been aggressive enough on offense and have been sloppy, at best, on defense. Need to put this together pretty quick.

    In more important happenings, seeing Bill Clinton and Mick Jagger sitting together has to be some kind of wonderful.

    • Across the pond

      What are the commentators saying on TV over there?

      Irish analysts were still somewhat optimistic of US chances

      • Brian in NH

        a little optimistic since the US has had a penchant for scoring late…and the US looks a little lively but they aren’t super positive about it i don’t think

      • Pat D

        They did say that Ghana played better in the first half but that there was a long way to go.

  • deuce bag poster

    You have to fucking score there.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      That’s a difficult shot, but nice built-up play.

      • deuce bag poster

        All he has to do is chip it over the goalie. Easier said than done, obviously, but you have to make that play in the World Cup.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          He was like 2 or 3 yards away from the goalie and hardly had an angle to chip the ball over the goalie.

          • deuce bag poster

            I disagree. That was a very makeable play. You’re in the World Cup, and your team is down by one. Make that play.

            • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

              Have you ever played soccer? Doesn’t matter if this World Cup, that is not an easy shot.

              • deuce bag poster

                Yes, I played soccer. It’s not an easy shot, but it was very makeable and in the World Cup, you have to capitalize on opportunities like that.

  • Across the pond

    Lively start. Another great chance missed though.

    I like Bradley as a manager, he’s not afraid to make chances before its too late.

  • Across the pond

    This is much better, starting to expose Ghana at the back. Bradley is really starting to control the midfield. Need a bit more from Donovan though.

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Boy Bob Bradley’s pre-match alignment adjustments sure paid off.

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Altidore needs more seasoning in the EPL. He’s not ready for this yet.

  • Brian in NH

    Wow that was a scary moment where the Ghana player seemed to have a wide open space towards the net

  • deuce bag poster

    Penalty kick!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Penalty!

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Nailed it.

  • Across the pond

    GET IN! Smashing pen

  • deuce bag poster

    YES!!!!

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    YES! Clinical finishing by Donovan.

  • Brian in NH

    bout friggin time we got a goal!!

  • MrJigginz

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • deuce bag poster

    BTW, there was no penalty. But I’ll take it anyway.

  • Across the pond

    They really need to keep pushing. They have Ghana on the ropes here.

  • SF Yanks

    I’ve hated soccer my entire life but that was awesome. I’ll be watching for as long as US is in it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’ve never really been a fan, but it hooked me in last week.

      • deuce bag poster

        I got hooked after the Slovenia game.

      • SF Yanks

        Too bad all I understand is, ball in net = good

        Maybe that’s all I need to know.

        • Across the pond

          It’s all the counts anyway

  • VO

    Sorry I’m late but.
    *clears throat*
    GOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • deuce bag poster

    The Ghana goalie is playing outstanding. Really a superb job.

    • Across the pond

      and he’s like 3rd choice keeper for a crap team.

    • Brian in NH

      I agree. he has been impressive in this game.

  • Across the pond

    This US team is one good striker away from being a very top team in world football.

    Maybe Altidore can be that player in the future but right now he’s just a bit raw.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      They also need a good full-back. Bocanegro is more of a left back and DeMerit and Onyewu are not good enough.

      • Brian in NH

        I think that Onyewu is on the team because people like to call him “gooch”

        maybe he could land some sort of sponsorship deal with Gucci and Schooly D

      • Across the pond

        Good point, but they are at least disciplined enough to keep their team in a game.

        The lack of a true finisher to put away all these chances is a killer. They should be 3-1 up now.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          They will have big problems against the top strikers. Imagine DeMerit against Suarez and Forlan of Uruguay.

          But I agree about the striker lacking. What is Eric Wynalda doing these days?

          • deuce bag poster

            I like how you say “will” and not “might”. Absolute faith in the U.S. FTW.

            • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

              LOL. I’m not even American. You could substitute Suarez and Forlan for other fast strikers like Torres, Villa, Messi, Higuain, Robinho etc.

              • Across the pond

                Where you from?

                In fairness to DeMerit, those forwards would and do routinely destroy better defenders.

                You’re right though, its an area of worry.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I’m from Germany.

                  And Bocanegra is not the solution either, it seems.

              • Across the pond

                You can add Gyan to that list :(

    • Rob Has no Innings Limit

      I agree about Altidore. He’s got the size, pace and skill but he drifts in and out of effectiveness and loses his touch here and there. He’s only 20 so here’s hoping he gets some seasoning with Hull City or better yet, signs on with a club that hasn’t just been relegated.

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Bradley had more room to work with than he realized there…

  • deuce bag poster

    U.S.A. has trouble holding onto the ball.

  • deuce bag poster

    What shitty, shitty luck.

  • Brian in NH

    Free Kick!

  • deuce bag poster

    What in the world was up with that free kick?

    • Rob Has no Innings Limit

      Tried a low, driven ball on goal to maybe get a juicy rebound in the box, but it was a bit long for that and poorly taken.

      • deuce bag poster

        It was a bad kick at any rate.

        • Rob Has no Innings Limit

          Precisely.

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Poor effort from Dempsey. 30m is a little long for a driven kick.

  • Brian in NH

    not sure if i wanna see this go all the way to PKs. I can’t handle that kind of pressure.

    • Across the pond

      If it does, take some comfort in the fact that Howard is damn good at stopping them!

    • Rob Has no Innings Limit

      I hate PKs. It’s a prolonged disgrace that FIFA allows games to end that way on the world’s biggest soccer stage.

      • deuce bag poster

        This.

      • Brian in NH

        Something akin to MLB having a home run derby to decide the world series after like 12 innings

  • Across the pond

    Looks like we’re heading to extra time. US look the fitter side so that’s promising

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    I do not like this.

    • deuce bag poster

      No worries.

    • Across the pond

      Have faith. US are the ones trying to win this.

      • Rob Has no Innings Limit

        Well I more meant the late corner kick surrendered, but that passed harmlessly enough.

        • Across the pond

          Oh right sorry, was a little on edge with that myself.

  • Across the pond

    SHIT

  • Pat D

    Just terrible.

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Horrible, horrible defending.

  • deuce bag poster

    So. This game. Sucks, eh?

  • Across the pond

    What is it with this team and first halfs? They’ve gone back to how they played for the first 45

  • deuce bag poster

    The Ghana goalie is just kicking ass.

  • deuce bag poster

    10 minutes left.

  • deuce bag poster

    This corner may be our last chance. Not optimistic.

    • deuce bag poster

      I’m calling this one. It’s over. What a disappointing game by the U.S.

    • Across the pond

      Still time left.

      • deuce bag poster

        The U.S. has no urgency. It’s ridiculous.

        • Across the pond

          Its not ridiculous, its tiredness

          • Jose the Satirist

            This

            • deuce bag poster

              Ugh, whatever. I’m in a bad mood.

          • deuce bag poster

            Ghana didn’t seem to tired there, did they?

            They need more urgency. Need it.

            Ugh, I’m in a bad mood. What a loss.

        • deuce bag poster

          WOW, I hate heartbreaking misses. Hate them.

          • deuce bag poster

            Just wide…just over…just missed…

            So fucking annoying.

  • Brad Toughy

    The US has led for a whopping 206 seconds in this World Cup.

  • Jose the Satirist

    Tough loss. Ghana knew how to burn the clock once they got the second goal.

    • deuce bag poster

      If we’re being objective, U.S. didn’t play very well. Their only goal was a PK. That being said, the Ghana goalie played one of the best games by a goalie I’ve ever seen.

      • Jose the Satirist

        2nd half they were miles ahead of their first half.

        • deuce bag poster

          Yeah, definitely. First 15 minutes of the second half especially, then they were about evenly matched. Terrible overtime.

  • deuce bag poster

    What a shame. What. A Shame.

  • Across the pond

    Hard luck. That’s a tough loss but absolutely no shame in that performance after the first half.

    They should have won the game in normal time, but thats football.

    • deuce bag poster

      A couple times they had chances, but I think, looking at it objectively, that they were outplayed. They had a terrible first half, a great first 15 minutes or so in the second half, and then they were more or less evenly matched with Ghana. Overtime they were way outplayed.

      U.S. has nothing to be ashamed of, but I don’t think it was solely a hard luck loss.

      • Jose the Satirist

        1st half the US was outplayed. 2nd half I really think the US was better than Ghana. They went from only around 37% possession to over 50% by the second half. Once OT came, Ghana scored a goal very quickly and just had to play clock burner. US wasn’t really horrible, there attempts just didn’t pan out. I say this completely objectively.

        • deuce bag poster

          U.S. wasn’t embarrassed by Ghana or anything. Definitely not. But I think that in the second half they dominated for the first 15 minutes or so and thenplayed about an evenly matched game. Bad OT.

        • Across the pond

          I agree. Normal time was very equal. Ghana dominated the first half but the US were more than equal in the second half.

  • Pat D

    Well at least I can go back to not caring now.