Jun
16

The similarities of Nick Swisher and Curtis Granderson

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For some reason I’ve detected a bit of fan angst towards Curtis Granderson. It’s not widespread or particularly vicious, but I’m actually a bit stunned that it exists at all. It seems like at least once a game I mention to Mike, or he mentions to me, how awesome Granderson has been. Yet he still has detractors. They all seem to spout the same lines about him, too. He can’t hit lefties and is a platoon player. He has bad instincts in the outfield. He strikes out too much. It has seemed to me that these claims are quite overblown when contrasted with the things that Granderson does bring to the table.

The more I thought about it, the more my mind kept going to the parallels between Granderson and another outfield trade acquisition, Nick Swisher. They were acquired in different manners: Swisher a buy-low guy without a clear role, Granderson a costly acquisition who was immediately installed as the starting center fielder. After that, though, the storylines seem to line up pretty well. Considering the shifting fan perception towards Swisher, I think we’ll eventually see the same for Granderson. Unfortunately, we might be looking at a similar timeline, which is to say a little over a full season.

Photo credit: Gail Burton/AP

In 2007 it looked like Nick Swisher was just hitting his stride. He had posted his second straight solid season, in which he bumped up his OBP 10 points over the previous season. The A’s, however, stood little chance to contend in 2008 and decided to cash in their Swisher chip, sending him to the White Sox for Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney. Swisher responded to his new environment by posting what was by far the worst season of his career. It was enough for both manager Ozzie Guillen and general manager Ken Williams to sour on him. When they called around for trades that winter Brian Cashman pounced.

Swisher responded by posting the best year of his career. His 29 home runs didn’t match his 35 from 2006, but he compensated with a flurry of doubles, which resulted in the best power season of his career. Combined with a .371 OBP it made for a .375 wOBA, better than his previous high, .368. Still, fans didn’t love Swish. He made a few bonehead plays in the field and on the basepaths that stuck in everyone’s craw, and that led to negative evaluations despite wildly positive results. It took an incredibly hot start this season for him to disprove the naysayers. It makes sense. After all, a .300 batting average can win over plenty of old school critics.

In the same manner, the Yankees acquired Curtis Granderson after a down year. It wasn’t quite his worst — his 2006 was a degree below his 2009. But it was certainly a letdown after his 2007 and 2008 seasons. Many fans looked at his 2009 season as representative of what he was as a player. He can’t hit lefties. He strikes out a ton. He hits for power, but that’s about it. An early season slump and a three-week DL stint didn’t help that impression.

Photo credit: Rob Carr/AP

Yet, as I mentioned in last night’s recap, Granderson has been quite excellent since coming off the DL. His early season slump set him back heavily — he was hitting .225/.311/.375 when he pulled up lame rounding second on May 1 — but as we’ve seen every single year of baseball’s existence, anything can happen in 91 PA. In fact, it happened to Swisher in 2009. In 92 PA from May 1 to May 27 he hit .127/.297/.225, quite a bit worse than Granderson’s initial cold streak. And, as mentioned above, Swisher recovered and ended with a career year.

Come to think of it, other than the platoon split the complaints about Granderson also pretty much mirror the complaints about Swisher. Both have a reputation for striking out, and while most objective measures both played good defense they had a reputation, at least in the eyes of Yankees fans, for playing sloppily in the field. All of this ignores the positives they bring to the game. I have had no problem with the defense from either, bonehead plays aside, and while strikeouts might be emotionally distressing and aesthetically ugly, they aren’t really that worse than other forms of outs. They’re just things that people tend to complain about.

Yet on the positive side, both possess power, and both are adept at getting on base. If a player can do both of those, he’ll have a spot on any team. And, as Swisher has shown, prime-aged hitters can indeed learn new tricks. Granderson has been just fine for the Yanks. If he transitions like Swisher he could get even better as the summer rolls along. And that’s not even getting into what next year could mean for him.

Categories : Players
  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    There are so many fans that claim Swisher and Granderson are fourth outfielders. I’m just completely stunned at that.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      They are 4th outfielders………on an All-Star team.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Behind……

        LF-Damon
        CF-A-Jax
        RF-Matsui

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I think you mean:

          CF-Damon
          CF-AJax
          CF-Matsui

          • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist Carlosologist

            CF-Matsui

            I would pay money to see that travesty.

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              So, so much money.

          • poster

            I think you mean:

            SP-Damon
            SP-AJax
            SP-Matsui

            • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

              nah SP swisher >>>>>>>>>>>sp damon, sp matsui, sp ajax

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          Good point…..nay, GREAT point.

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Maybe Granderson should go back to being a switch hitter.

    I had to do it.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      I had to laugh.

  • Rose

    They were acquired in different manners: Swisher a buy-low guy without a clear role, Granderson a costly acquisition who was immediately installed as the starting center fielder.

    That’ll do it right there. Not saying I agree with it…but it’s hard for players to live up to the pedestal they are put on sometimes. When they sneak through the back door and perform the same way…it’s looked at entirely different.

    Not to mention, Nick Swisher came in and not only performed…but immediately helped the Yankees win a Championship. Meanwhile, Granderson came in and got injured and sidelined for quite a while and perhaps people forgot about him…or are still waiting for him to do something.

    I think he’s a great player…but it’s obvious that Nick Swisher has had a few more fortunate circumstances surrounding his play thus far (or unfortunate circumstances – however you want to look at his previous horrible season in Chicago).

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      I can’t believe that Curtis Granderson hasn’t won a World Series for the Yankees yet. What a slackerbum.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        (unwraps burrito, wipes down microwave)

        • Guy with a long (foot)

          Well its cause Kurtis Likes Men

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      When they sneak through the back door and perform the same way…it’s looked at entirely different.

      TWSS.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        You’re kinky. I like that.

      • Salty Buggah

        Maybe it’s a race thing….

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Curtis Granderson: the second most interesting man in the world.

  • Rose

    I don’t know about you…but Pee Wee is making his return – performing on Broadway in October. That’s where we’ll see Curtis Granderson show his stuff.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      I’m picking up what you’re putting down.

  • Sweet Dick Willie

    Also, since Granderson essentially replaced Damon, he has all that misguided Damon love to overcome, which is no small feat.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Even though he really didn’t replace Damon, he replaced Matsui. But whatevs, it’s like talking to a brick wall with some people.

      C’est la vie.

      • Chris

        He replaced Matsui in the lineup and Damon in the field. I think it’s hard for people to separate the two.

    • Kiko Jones

      I hated to see Damon and Matsui leave but Granderson was the only one of the main acquisitions I was happy about and still am. (Winn and Johnson confirmed my fears; jury’s still out on Vazquez.)

      Also, Granderson a sloppy fielder? What?! I must be watching a different CFer.

  • http://yanksdraftsandprospects.blogspot.com/ Jake H

    The Swish deal was amazing by Cash. While they had to give up a pretty good prospect in Jackson I think Granderson will be better in the short term. Long haul it’s up in the air. I don’t remember anyone complaining about Granderson when he hit that HR in Boston during the first series of the season.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      The Swish deal was amazing by Cash.

      You know, while Obama’s getting BP to pay for all the cleanup of the natural disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, maybe he can strongarm them into footing the bill for finally fixing the Chicago White Sox.

      Any franchise run by Ken Williams and Ozzie Guillen has to qualify as a Superfund site of some sort. Or possibly a takeover/bailout under the TARP monies.

  • A.D.

    For some reason I’ve detected a bit of fan angst towards Curtis Granderson. It’s not widespread or particularly vicious, but I’m actually a bit stunned that it exists at all.

    I feel like it has some to do what you said, and more so the success of IPK, AJAX, and Coke…namely AJAX

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Austin Jackson, month by month:

      April, 2010: .364/.422/.495 (.530 BABIP)
      May, 2010: .297/.336/.396 (.395 BABIP)
      June, 2010: .220/.235/.280 (.275 BABIP)

      Regression to the mean is a bitch.

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        Austin Jackson’s season….as a haiku.

        The leaf gently falls
        From the branch of the oak tree
        Straight to .250

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          (golf clap)

          I take back all of those mean things I said about FSU. Except for the parts about inbreeding.

      • Salty Buggah

        His OPS on the season is down to .764 now, yet he still he has a .418 BABIP & a 29.2% LD% on the year. Since both are probably unsustainable, even though they’ve regressed a lot, should we expect A-Jax’s number to drop even more?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      It’s terribly annoying when people who didn’t really care about A-Jax before are now like CASHMAN GOT RID OF THE FUTURE!!!! and/or haven’t shown up to talk A-Jax now that he’s in a terrible slump. For the record, I don’t think the Grandy trade was highway robbery like the Swisher trade. But I think Granderson is going to be a great player for a number of years which I think we’d all be happy with.

      • A.D.

        Oh I agree, I don’t agree with the reason, but people watch Baseball tonight and say:

        ZOMG AJAX is out hitting Granderson and playing GG defense, AND we gave up Coke and IPK??????

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

        Yeah up until that point I would have accepted a bench player for Ian Kennedy and been happy.

      • Kiko Jones

        Agreed, bex.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      IPK is doing fine in the NL West. Look what happened last night when he pitched against an AL East team.

      Just saying.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    For shame, Joseph. You broke the first rule of sports journalism: never make cross-racial comparisons.

    Granderson’s not like Nick Swisher, he’s like, um… Marquis Grissom. Or possibly Hal McRae.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Joe has been spending too much time at baseball-reference. Among Grandy’s most similar batters: Brad Hawpe, Michael Cuddyer, Kevin Mench, Jayson Werth and Craig Wilson.

      Looks like they didn’t get the memo either.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        At least Jayson Werth and Craig Wilson sound like they might be black guys.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

          A friend of mine wanted to acquire JJ Hardy, until he found out that he wasn’t black…he was shocked. I laughed my ass off.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Maybe that’s why Sox fans aren’t very keen on signing Werth?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

      Curtis Granderson is more of a rich man’s CJ Henry if anything. You can tell Brett Gardner really taught him how to play the game the right way. More of these “athletic” types can learn a lot playing next to a guy who gets every ounce of his talent that he can.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        ICWUDT

  • CountryClub

    And Granderson has been good in the field. I guess I shouldnt say that, because I dont know what the metrics say. But he appears to be doing well with the naked eye. We had heard a lot about him misjudging balls last yr.

  • http://www.lessthismorethat.com/author/ddarrell Jamal G.

    If you include Baseball Prospectus‘ EqBRR data into fWAR (don’t forget to subtract EqSBR if you want to factor in EqBRR into fWAR), Curtis Granderson was right there with Grady Sizemore as the top CF in MLB from 2007 to 2009. In this period, Sizemore accumulated 15.8 fWAR and Granderson amassed a flat 15 of his own. Considering that 8 fRAR over a three-year period (0.267 fWAR per season) amounts to a virtual wash, the two AL Central center fielders were “1A” and “1B” for the crown.

    The sad thing about the defense is that his reputation was hurt because of a couple misplays down the stretch in 2009. He let a couple balls go over his head in Comerica and during the one-game playoff at the Metrodome, and that led people to question his defense.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

    For some reason I’ve detected a bit of fan angst towards Curtis Granderson. It’s not widespread or particularly vicious, but I’m actually a bit stunned that it exists at all.

    Ian Kennedy has a 3.5something ERA, Boone Logan is worse than Phil Coke, and Austin Jackson had a good month. The Swisher trade set a new standard for trades that Brian Cashman makes. Whereas Granderson’s had some tough luck on hard hit balls and got injured, and the Yankees were in second place for a while. It’s the way shit goes, Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez were huge parts in winning a championship so you can’t get mad at them…so Granderson’s the new goat now that Vazquez has had a few good starts.

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist Carlosologist

      Nope, Javy is still the goat until after 28.

      • http://Twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

        Unforgnunatley, yes.

        • http://Twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

          Ugh, stupid iPad.

          UNFORTUNATELY, yes.

          /ipadspellingfail’d

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            That was really epically bad spelling. Like I want to use unforgunatley on a daily basis.

  • Mike HC

    Nice article. I definitely think you are on to something here.

    Both players are very good, but not great, jump off the screen type of players. So it can take a little while, seeing a player everyday, before you really appreciate that they bring to the table.

    The WS didn’t hurt Swisher’s cause either.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      But but but remember the time he made an out in the playoffs?????

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      The WS didn’t hurt Swisher’s cause either.

      That’s the funny thing. Because Swisher shows up and they win a WS he’s viewed in a better light, but Swisher was absolutely terrible in the playoffs. .128/.255/.234 and was so bad he was benched for Game 2 in lieu of Jerry Hairston.

      But hey, he’s a gritty winner.

      • Mike HC

        For me, emotions is part of being a fan. Not everything comes down to cold hard numbers. So, yea, for many fans, including myself, the sole act of winning a WS as a member of the team can make you a fan favorite for life.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          I agree that Swisher is remembered better for being part of a World Series team, but doesn’t necessarily make him better than someone else who hasn’t. (Though because he’s Nick Swisher, he is better than everyone else)

          The extreme case of this being Scott Brosius vs. A-Rod before last year. We all have fond memories of Brosius because he was part of a few title winning teams, but even if A-Rod played here for 15 years and never won a title, he’s still that much better than Scotty Bro.

          • Mike HC

            I didn’t mention anything about one person being better than another. Just talking about fan reaction to a player pre WS ring vs fan reaction post WS ring, while making no other changes.

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              Sorry, I wasn’t trying to say that’s what you were saying, but I can see how it looks like that. I totally agree that once you have a ring, fans will like you better. (I don’t know about Javy, can’t wait to find out).

              • Mike HC

                hahah. That will be interesting. That has been one of the more interesting soap operaish side plots of the season. The fans reaction to Javy on an inning to inning basis.

                • Mike HC

                  sub plots, but i guess side plots might work

          • Mike HC

            And I am more of a fan of Scott Brosius than A-Rod for many different reasons. I understand that A-Rod is the far better player, but that does not change the fact I have more fond memories of Brosius than A-Rod for whatever reasons.

            • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

              arods 15 inning walkoff homer against the red sox, his hoer off papelbon, his hr in hsi first at bat of the seasno last year already give me mroe fond memories of arod than brosius.

              and this is coming from someone who loved scotty bro and hated arod. arod’s steroid admission really made me rethink my position.

              • Mike HC

                fair enough. I like A-Rod too and have many fond memories. I remember one year, early in the year, he hit a laughable amount of game winning or tying homers for like two straight months. I have never seen anything like that, and doubt I ever will.

                Maybe it just has to do with my progression as a fan. That 1996-2003 lets say dynasty was during my sports fan prime that set the mold for me. The members of that team will always be my favorites, even Leyritz.

                • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                  and all my epicly bad typos in the above comment give me fond memories of my grade school days before spell check

                  • Mike HC

                    ha, I barely noticed to be honest. I read it just fine.

                • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                  As long as you’re not gonna say like “Scott Brosius is a better player than A-Rod” I don’t think people would have a problem with you liking Brosius more personally. That’s what makes the world go round.

                  • Mike HC

                    Exactly.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              And I am more of a fan of Scott Brosius than A-Rod for many different reasons.

              … There’s lots of different ways I can respond to this, but all I’m going to say is:

              YOU’RE MY BOY, SCOTTY BRO!!!!!!!!

              • Mike HC

                I don’t know what that means.

                And just to avoid any possible confusion with you, it is not because he is white. I like Straw, Sojo, Bernie, Posada, Justice and many others from that team more than A-Rod too.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                  It’s just my silly little way of poking fun at the excessive Scott Brosius love. I like the guy too for the same reason you do (He’s a Yankee who was part of great teams and had big moments).

                  Some people take it overboard, though, doing exactly what you say you don’t do: think he was better than ARod for stupid “intangibles” reasons.

  • Kevin

    All I have to say:

    Austin Jackson: .308 BA, 4.5 UZR

    Ian Kennedy: 88.1 IP, 3.57 ERA, 1.200 WHIP

    Phil Coke: 31 G, 3.18 ERA

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      I’m convinced.

    • Mike HC

      Because Cashman made that trade with only the first two months of the 2010 season in mind.

      And not because he was looking for what was best for the organization for the next 5 years.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      M-my God. I thought Curtis Granderson was pretty good but now you have convinced me otherwise.

    • poster

      Well, you’ve done that. You’ve completely erased every good thing Curtis Granderson has done for the Yankees. I’m going to go off and cry now that my lovely, unrealistic dream of having a trade where both sides have players performing well has been shattered.

      • poster

        done that=done it

  • nathan

    I dont think the Yanks gave up too much quality in the Granderson trade. I did feel though IPK had no chance to pitch for us, he was wasted in this trade as a lesser prospect than IPK may have gotten us Granderson.

    Now, the Javy trade — still cant get over Vizcaino being thrown in that one.

    • rbizzler

      Arodys wasn’t really thrown in, more like he was the centerpiece of that transaction.

  • Poopy Pants

    Maybe b/c Grandy is being outperformed by Gardner and Cervelli so far?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Many people are being outperformed by Gardner, he’s having a great season.

    • poster

      He’s not being outperformed by Cervelli.

      • Poopy Pants

        He certainly is. Look it up.

        • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist Carlosologist

          Granderson’s wOBA: .343
          Cervelli’s wOBA: .329

          I don’t see your point.

          • poster

            This.

        • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

          cervelli ops+: 98
          granderson ops+: 111

          you fail

          • poster

            And this.

        • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist Carlosologist

          /oaktag

          • Mike HC

            hahah, whipping out the old school insults now.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Grandy>>>>>Cervelli in both FG’s WAR and B-Ref’s WAR as well.

          But I’m guessing Poopy Pants is a batting average kinda guy.

          • rbizzler

            Or a clutch-hitting kind of guy. Or maybe Poopy is really Michael Kay…

          • poster

            And this as well.

  • Dan

    And where would Kennedy have thrown those innings here? Where would AJax and his rapidly descending .308/.352/.412 play?

    AJax and Coke are 1.7 WAR combined, Granderson, despite missing 3 weeks is already at 1.6, which is more than IPK has in his entire MLB career.

    • Mike HC

      very true as well. The Yanks had two good players who didn’t really have a spot on this team, and could thrive elsewhere. He traded those assets for our starting centerfielder for the foreseeable future with power and speed. All teams involved helped their team.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Yep. Again, I don’t understand the mentality that the trades have to be ABSOLUTE HIGHWAY ROBBERY to benefit the Yankees. There can be a situation where every team benefits and I think that’s a good thing.

        • Pete

          definitely – in fact, I think it’s the tougher trades that better show a GM’s abilities – obviously, the ability to swindle a deal like the Swisher trade is a good ability in a GM, but anybody would have chosen to make that deal, whether or not he/she managed to pull it off.

          It’s much more indicative of a GM’s ability to assess value when the two sides are closer and/or there’s no real winner/loser. Most trade’s are not of the “highway robbery” variety – they’re of the “hey let’s see if we can’t help one another out” variety. I think it took a fair amount of cognitive prescience on the part of Cashman to see Granderson’s value to the Yankees as being higher than Kennedy’s and AJax’s, and using that understanding to get a deal done.

        • Mike HC

          Yea. It also opens the door for future trading possibilities. Billy Beane ripped off other GM’s (and snickered behind their backs about it) so often, that GM’s got scared to even deal with him at all. Happy customers are repeat customers.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            Happy customers are repeat customers.

            That’s what all my hoes always say.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      AJax and Coke are 1.7 WAR combined, Granderson, despite missing 3 weeks is already at 1.6, which is more than IPK has in his entire MLB career.

      TRUTHBOMB’D

  • Pete

    To be universally loved by Yankees fans, you have to be either Derek Jeter, Whitey Ford, or Lou Gehrig. I’d be willing to bet that you could find a decent number of fans who had complaints about every single other yankee, ever.

    • poster

      2 words:

      Don Mattingly

      • Jim

        And Yogi. But point taken.

  • forensicnucchem

    Ok, it’s late, but I’ll admit I’m one who has some ‘angst’ toward Granderson still. For me, it has nothing to do with what was traded for him (at least 2 of the 3 were addition by subtraction in my mind) or who he replaced, it’s a combo of the two things you note (not the defense); the K’s and the split’s.

    It’s not so much the total number of K’s, but the manner in which he gets them, where he looks so completely overmatched many times (all players do sometimes, he just seems to have more stick out in my mind like that). And though his K% is near Swisher’s, Swish has the much higher walk rate which can negate some of the bad memories of the K’s.

    But, the main thing for me is the split’s. Being almost a total zero against lefties is a huge black mark against him as an overall player and an impact player in my mind. Like we did with Howard in the WS, he can be compromised in almost every late game AB by the other manager bringing in a lefty. That has a huge effect on the team’s lineup construction and his usefulness in close games. It also obviously affects even more when the opposing starter is a lefty. It’s just extremely frustrating (and in the long haul damaging to a team) to have an ‘up-the-middle’ starter who really should be platooned in about a third of the AB’s over the course of a season. Sure, there will be times where he gets a big hit off a lefty, but as we’ve seen, there will be many more times where he looks almost like a little leaguer out there flailing against a lefty.

    Maybe in time the good will outweigh the bad in my eyes and memory (I will admit his terrible first month (outside of the first series of the year) amplified my thoughts and feelings) and the issues above won’t seem as bad. I just think it’s something that takes some getting used to.

    Sorry for the book…

    • Mike HC

      Every player has their weaknesses, but look what he can do to a guy like Halladay. As bad as he is against lefties, he more than makes up for it against righties. And the potential for him to improve against lefties, while staying the same against righties, provides an even larger potential for value.

      • forensicnucchem

        Of course every player has their weaknesses, but one that accounts for about 1/3 of their season is an enormous one.

        I also don’t think he ‘more than makes up for it’ against righties. He hits righties well, but it doesn’t erase his numbers against lefties.

        Also, it’s been 7 seasons. At some point the ‘potential’ to improve against lefties is a myth and he just is what he is.

  • Brian in NH

    I loved Swisher since the moment he set foot on the mount last year.

    • Brian in NH

      *Mound not mount lol…he’s not riding horses…

  • Tom

    there really should be no shock involved when seeing fans are growing frustrated by granderson. he doesnt make consistent enough contact, he is awful versus lefties, plays a solid CF and is fast. Fact is, granderson is a piece, not a centerpiece, similar to Melky who had already won a championship and similar to AJax who is 6 years younger. The trade was pointless, there was no glaring need in CF since we had just one the WS with CF’s who were younger and going to improve. Swisher brings more versatility to a lineup because he is a switch hitter and can play 1st base as well. People have got to stop bringing in made up statistics, like BABIP. And granderson did not replace matsui in the lineup, that would be Robbie Cano.