Game 96: You know Sergio?
ByAfter a month-long stint on the disabled list due to an oblique strain suffered while taking batting practice, sinkerball specialist Sergio Mitre is making his long awaited return to the starting rotation this afternoon. Well, I’m not sure how true that last part is, we’d all rather have Andy Pettitte out there. But until he comes off the disabled list (or the Yankees swing a trade), Mitre is the team’s best option for that rotation spot.
Joe Girardi said that Mitre will be limited to about 90 pitches today, but he’ll be paying extra attention once he hits the 75 pitch mark. That’s what Mitre threw in his last rehab outing, so if he starts leaving some pitches up after that point, you know why. Sadly, Jonathan Albaladejo was optioned to Triple-A to make room for Mitre. The Chad Ho Moseley monster just will not die.
The other big story of the game is Alex Rodriguez and the pursuit of his 600th career homer. My money is on him hitting it in the first inning today, a three run shot off Kyle Davies. Just like his 500th. Here’s the lineup…
Jeter, SS
Granderson, CF
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Cano, 2B
Posada, C
Thames, RF – eek
Curtis, LF
Pena, SS
And on the bump, it’s Sergio!
Game Notes: Brett Gardner had some kind of stomach issue but should be available off the bench, no biggie…Nick Swisher expects to be back tomorrow. Game starts at 1:05pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
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Gardner is not going to be available after all, according to LoHud. Gulp, hope nobody gets hit or gets hurt, our bench consists of Cervelli and Miranda today.
I’m sure Swisher could play in an emergency.
hope nobody gets hit or gets hurt, our bench consists of Cervelli and Miranda today.
I’m sure Juan Miranda could handle CF in a pinch, and Frankie Cervelli would make a fantastic emergency shortstop.
(Yes, I’m kidding.)
Yikes.
He has acid reflux. I’ve had that before, it’s really painful. It’s nothing that should keep him out for an extended period of time, though. But man, acid reflux is no fun.
People don’t realize how crazy unfun stomach problems are. I’ve been in the hospital with my issues before, ycch!
Yeah, man, that hurts like crazy. Though the fact he’ll be in an air conditioned hospital and not outside on a 110 degree day may help lighten the blow a tad.
I would recommend Bret dribk some milk, but on a hot day like this, milk would be a bad idea.
It’s so damn hot… milk was a bad choice.
(You totally posted that wanting someone to respond with that quote, right?)
I AM SOOOOOO MISERABLE RIGHT NOW, SAN DIEGO!!!
Oof, the last thing anyone needs is food poisoning.
Hot enough for you?
Jeter is dhing. Sorry I just ran through the lineup and was like “Wait… who’s dhing with Thames in rf…”
WE MISS YOU ANDY.
They said it’s 108 degrees on the field today… good lord.
Possibly soon-to-be-Yankee Chad Qualls has not induced(?) a single infield pop up this year.
Don’t even go there
Just observing. I mean not one.
You could flip Qualls. Lots of teams need bullpen help. However, you’d have to eat whatever remains of his salary. But, if that means Arizona won’t insist on Joba, that’d be cool.
That.
I think I’d rather take on the salaries of Qualls and Snyder (both of whom are overpaid but not ridiculously so) if it netted us Dan Haren without having to give up an actual quality piece like Joba.
I think I’d rather watch Quills with Geoffrey Rush than watch Qualls pitch for the Yankees.
3.66 xFIP. 53% strand rate. .445 BABIP.
Okay, okay. You have a point.
I suppose he’d be an upgrade over any of the members of the Chad Ho Moseley hydra, so it’s not a horrible move.
Exactly. I don’t want him as the setup guy but he’d definitely be one of our best 7. Although, he can’t go multiple innings so maybe not.
55.4% GB, 8.39 K/9, 3.98 FIP, 3.66 xFIP, .445 BABIP, LD rate, HR/9, HR/FB, velocity, etc all in line with career numbers.
He might be throwing too many strikes and scouts say he has confidence issue and didn’t always deal with adversity well.
It’s luck and some mental issues, the stuff is still there, I would take a chance on a guy like this.
I tried to do the cliff notes of this, but yeah.
or Jimmy Qualls
I like Dan Haren, I really do but I don’t think throwing in the towel on Joba for him is worth it. If they want 4 prospects minus montero romine etc then I think its a steal even if we eat most if some of the salary
Especially if we get cliff lee in the offseason
CC, Lee, Haren, Burnett, Pettite/Hughes would be insane
I would hope DiPoto would realize if we have to take on Qualls and Snyder that the haul from the Yankees lightens up — no Joba, maybe even no Noesi and definitely not Adams.
LOL…that was the first time I had seen that Geico commercial with Randy Johnson. Am I really out of touch?
Jay: What the f#$% is “the internet”?!?!?
Oh, they have the Internet on computers now.
Back in my day, internet was known as the inside of swimming trunks.
/Yesterday’d
That was some intense seed-cracking there by Pettitte.
Ricky: “Wet out there tonight.”
Shelley: “Huh?”
Ricky: “Wet… out there… to-night!”
Shelley: “Yeah.”
Ricky: “They say…”
Shelley: “Yeah?”
Ricky: “They say, it was so hot downtown this afternoon, grown men on the street corner were going up to cops begging the cops… to shoot.”
Lingk: (laughs)
Ricky: “They say you should not drink alcohol when it’s so hot.”
Lingk: “Who says that?”
Ricky: “Something I read. For they say it dehydrates you. They say you should drink water, but *I* subscribe to the law of contrary public opinion. If everyone thinks one thing, then I say bet the other way.”
Lingk: “Added to which you know they’re wrong.”
Ricky: “Well, that’s what I’m saying.”
Via MLBTR, Olney said ZMac and Nova + 2 more is what the Yankees offered. Do you think clearing out the AAA rotation is because our lower pitching prospects have appeared to be pitching out of their minds recently?
Also, Sergio saying “I’m gonna be here for a month pitching for Andy” made me feel sad.
Correction, that was Heyman and not Olney.
I have a question.
If the baseball overlords were to smile on the Yankees and provide them with the good fortune of getting Haren, would he still be eligible for the National League Pitcher’s Silver Slugger based on his batting from the first half of the year?
I believe so, yes.
PS: It’s extremely hot in Irondequoit today.
Oh dear…
How much of an upgrade would Snyder be over Cervelli (or Chad Moeller)? Or would we try to flip him as well?
I’d keep him. He’d be a nice insurance policy next season during the great Jesus Montero Callup Experiment. And then you can decline his option and let him walk after 2011.
Well, this is a fine start. Mitre won’t make it out of the second inning at this rate…
Well you can’t really say, at this rate, because as of right now, for this game, Mitre has an infinite ERA.
Your point is well taken though.
Damnit
Bah, stupid play Alex.
That is an out if Posada caught it.
I think Posada should have had it honestly
Meh. That was a good play. If Posada held onto the ball, he would have been out.
Game getting ugly very early
We lost the first inning. Noooo we are doomed.
It’s all over. Shut it down. Time to go home.
Well we know that whenever the Royals score first, the Yankees always lose.
**cough** July 22nd **cough**
That’s your interpretation. I didnt say we were doomed.
To clarify: I was mostly teasing, you know we’re cool.
We lost the first inning.
“We” haven’t batted yet, therefore “we” haven’t lost anything.
Oy vey.
Classic Jorge on that play. Gosh darn it.
How many errors does posada have in the last two weeks?
I have no idea where his brain is this series.
People were all over me earlier this week before this even started happening saying Posada isn’t that bad defensively. The guy is ridiculously bad.
You don’t like Posada.
We get it.
Again ill say it again. I like EVERY Yankee. I think he is a great hitter. So don’t put words in my mouth. But look at this way I’m the type of guy that looks at the present. He is getting progressively worse defensively. I also am not in love with Jeter and his first pitch groundouts.
I call Shenanigans.
I saw the posts. No one was “all over you.” Disagreement =/= people jumping on you.
And, like Meat Loaf said, you don’t like Posada, we get it.
Seriously dude, enough is enough. Even if Posada commits 1,000 errors, are you just gonna keep patting yourself on the back? There’s not like a reward for being right when others were wrong.
IF others were wrong, which is debatable.
Three million. DFA him.
Don’t worry A-rod’s 600th hr will make up the difference
Posada should have had him, but Alex made a bad throw. if he hits him in the chest, it’s an easy out.
neither of those runs should have scored.
The sac fly still would have scored him from 3rd. There only would have been one out.
The official scorer doesn’t think so (0 ER.) I missed the play, did Kendall advance to third because of the error?
i believe so. Kendall moved up when the ball got away.
it is posadas error ……made one the other day……getting worse if that is possible
Holy that shot just gave me vertigo rofl
yeah.. arod will be only the 4th player in MLB history to hit 600 HRs and take HGH
Ya, too bad he didn’t use something harmless like ‘the cream’ or ‘the clear’ or amphetamines.
I say again:
If HgH were readily available through the black market in the 1920s, Babe Ruth would have died of a massive HgH overdose.
Gardner would have tripled.
There you go grandy. <3 you.
BENCH GRANDY
The Grandy-Man!
It seems like he’s finally turning it around.
In your FACE, muffindick!
Hahahaha. Awesome. I haven’t laughed so hard at a comment in a long time.
Phil Coke would’ve… errr…
Wow, Granderson finally did something.
Real simple, knowitall nerd (since you wanna call me a “reactionary jerk” when last I checked YOU reacted to me like a jerk):
Granderson’s money 2011, 2012, and 2013. He’s not worth it. He can’t hit lefties. He barely steals bases. Name me the last time the guy threw out a baserunner at 2B, 3B, or homeplate. He has an OBP just over .300. His 2010 will be even worse than his 2009 for his worst season ever. But you keep thinking giving up Austin Jackson and Phil Coke was a good trade when all the Yanks had to do was re-sign Damon, give Jackson a start, or how ’bout this? Damon DH, Jackson LF, and if Jackson struggles, Damon LF full-time, DH would’ve been figured out (Posada etc.) Damon’s money is off the books after this season, Jackson can be traded or further developed, Coke can be kept, and Granderson can further stink it up with Detroit who would have zero takers for him.
LEAVE BRITNEY BEXY ALONE!
PS: Why do my HTML tags fail?
You can’t use the (s)(/s) tags, they don’t work. You have to use the full (strike)(/strike) tags.
Thank you.
No problemo, you stupid asswipe idiot.
/Cookiepuss’d
I thought I was a dumb cheerleader. Now I’m a knowitall nerd? C’mon, everyone knows you can’t be both of those.
If comics have taught me anything, I think it means you have superpowers: a dumb cheerleader whose secret identity is a knowitall nerd, or vice-versa, I’m not sure. But I’m fairly certain it means you can fly and have heat vision.
It also means you have perfect, massive, gravity defying breasts.
I’d point out that since April, Grandy and A-Jax’s numbers are practically the same, (and A-Jax has a .387 BABIP) but logic and reason are clearly not your strong suits.
We all know April games don’t count…LOL
Posada is a DH masquerading as an atrocious catcher we will unfortunately have to grin and bear for the rest of this season although maybe the Yanks will start Cervelli at C more when they have a much bigger lead over Tampa Bay and Boston.
Jesus Montero and Cervelli have to share catching and Posada has to be the DH next season, if the Yanks won’t/can’t get a veteran free-agent catcher or a new catching tandem.
Montero is paying his dues in AAA this year, he has to be given a shot next otherwise wtf is he with the Yankees for? You won’t trade him for Cliff Lee, you might not trade him for Dan Haren and if you don’t he’s with the Yanks for the rest of this season, you won’t call him up. What is he, a career AAA catcher? He can’t suck any worse than Posada defensively.
Muffindick for GM!
I didn’t get the muffindick joke at first. And when it clicked in my head I was literally laughing so hard I knocked something off my desk.
Wow, I just did the exact same thing.
What is he, a career AAA catcher?
Yup. A 20 year old career AAA catcher. Once again you’re absolutely correct.
This x 1,000,000.
I am nominating that for stupidest quote of the month (pending the creation of a stupidest comment of the month award)
Cookiepuss has become famous over the past few days. Not for any good reasons though.
Not at all. It’s one thing to be wrong or against the grain, but he’s a condescending asshole (well, tries to be) when someone disagrees with him.
I’m not condescending, asswipe.
You and many others are dishing out personal insults instead of civil discussion, I’m sending it back, and you can’t deal with it, so you further comment with snide, smarty pants, knowitall jabs at me to further show your inability to civilly debate.
I ask all of you IF MONTERO CAN’T CATCH AND WON’T BE WITH THE NEW YORK YANKEES NEXT SEASON, WHAT IS HE DOING IN THE YANKEES ORGANIZATION? If it’s for a trade, then do it i.e. trade him for Haren or whoever. If you’re not gonna trade him by the deadline a week away, his value is further decreased because it’s yet another potential deal with his name involved (media speculation and/or actual talks) and it doesn’t happen. The Yankees will save face and say Montero is too valuable when in reality everyone else will say “The other team didn’t want him.”
The very first time you commented, you rambled on and on about how useless a borderline HOF catcher was and suggested we carry like 6 catchers including Rod freaking Barajas. People very respectfully disagreed with you, and in your response to that you called everyone idiots. Despite your asinine arguments,
(evidenced by the fact that not a single person agrees with you) people try to be patient and respectful. And every time someone disagrees with you, you call them an idiot(s).
Stop using caps to make your point.
I’m not condescending, asswipe.
My eyebrow: raised.
IF MONTERO CAN’T CATCH AND WON’T BE WITH THE NEW YORK YANKEES NEXT SEASON, WHAT IS HE DOING IN THE YANKEES ORGANIZATION?
I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE YELLING ABOUT.
As for the rest of your comment, how do you know the Yankees’ plans for next year? He’s been on fire in AAA of late but he took so long to adjust, people were demanding he get sent DOWN about a month ago. If he keeps up this tear, he’ll probably get a September call-up, and I expect he’ll be up next year, doing at least some catching.
And Montero’s name was never brought up in the Haren talks, so I don’t quite understand the rest of your comment. And before you say I’m like a fly to honey on your comments, I do think you have interesting things to say/debate when you’re not being incredibly rude.
What? Not everyone here is insulting you, first of all. Yet you’re quick to make snide comments whenever someone disagrees with you.
If you want some type of respect, have respect for others.
Also, Montero will probably be a backup catcher/DH. Maybe more than a backup catcher, but the point is nobody knows if he can catch adequately. Scouts are saying otherwise though.
There has only been one trade where the Yankees offered Montero and the Mariners rejected the trade at the last minute. It wasn’t the Yankees.
Montero has possibly the best bat in the minor leagues right now. So even if he can’t make it as a fulltime catcher, his bat is too valuable to give up in any trade.
Nobody said he won’t be on the team next year. Who said this? No one. Stop putting words in people’s mouths. He has a chance to be on the roster next season and he will play.
Hey idiots
You’ve obviously been living under a rock the last few weeks, because Jesus Montero has been tearing it up with the bat in AAA. That warrants him being given a shot at catcher next year. Or, the Yanks should try to get a veteran catcher who can actually catch, but that would most likely be far more difficult.
Posada is an old, slow, atrocious catcher who will be even worse next year. Like I said and you people won’t admit like an alcoholic who won’t admit he’s that, Posada is a DH masquerading as an atrocious catcher. The only thing he is best for behind the plate is to mentor Montero like Girardi mentored him.
I asked is Montero a career AAA catcher RHETORICALLY (look up the word.) That’s me saying he should not languish in AAA.
The Yanks will have to replace Posada behind the plate at some point and he is most likely a goner to Yankee Pinstripes after next year, at least as a catcher. You let me know who’s his successor from the free agent market in 2012 who’s worth even a quarter of his current contract and then I’ll forget Montero. Until then shut up.
Montero should be the catcher with Cervelli getting some playing time next year, not Posada who should be the DH.
Stop calling people idiots. Only warning.
Did you know that most scouts believe Montero will not make it as a catcher in MLB? He can hit, but he’s possibly a worse defender than Posada.
Also, when you call people idiots it doesn’t help get your point across. Especially when your points are flawed.
Montero has been hot for about 2 weeks. He was bad early on. How do you know what he’d be if we brought him up? And why did you suddenly go from “bring him up now” to talking about 2 years from now?
And yeah, you’re gonna make a lot of friends here by calling people idiots.
Excuse me, EXCUSE ME.
1. I am not here to make friends or to gain your approval.
2. Montero is not worse than Posada because he is only 20 years old, it is too early to judge Montero as “worse than Posada.” Montero needs to play in the bigs. The longer he’s kept in the minors, the less his trade value, ok?
3. You people have been insulting me and talking condescendingly to me since I came on here, and I don’t and won’t back down.
4. When I come on here, I speak my mind and don’t direct it to anyone on here, then you people come on here with your sentence or two jabs or comments with nothing to back it up.
5. If Cervelli tears his ACL today, guess who gets the callup? Whoever the veteran is in AAA as I know and accept the scouting reports that Montero needs to play in AAA for the entire year. You people ever heard of winter ball
6. Hot streak schmot-streak. He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he’s hitting .235 BA with .295 OBP, he stinks, if he’s hitting over .400 and posting over .400 OBP, he’s on a hotstreak. Enough!!! He can hit. Start him with the Yanks next year or trade him by the deadline or in the offseason.
I am not here to make friends
Oh, Cookiepuss is a reality television contestant, that makes a lot of sense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w536Alnon24
1. I am not here to make friends or to gain your approval.
Good, because you’re doing a great job of making enemies and gaining disapproval.
Look, you say you want to have a civil debate and you’re only insulting others when they insult you first. It doesn’t work that way; you have to win people over with dispassionate reason instead of pick fights with them (even when they pick fights with you).
Your opinions are not popularly held opinions. That means you’re fighting an uphill battle. If you really want to have the civil debate you claim you do, you have to swallow some pride and explain your positions without taking umbrage or name calling.
The ball is in your court. If you disagree with the majority of the board and want to engage in a real conversation, you have to stop calling people names and talk to people with respect, and the board will forgive (and apologize) and move forward.
If you’re going to keep calling people asswipe and idiot, though, you’re not going to last long.
Montero is not worse than Posada because he is only 20 years old, it is too early to judge Montero as “worse than Posada.”
You do not know if Montero is better than Posada, defensively. It’s way too early to judge Montero as better than Posada. Read some scouting reports.
It gets really obnoxious when people aren’t willing to reason or listen to what others have to say. You’re assuming Montero is going to be a decent defensive catcher. You’re assuming we don’t want him on the Yankees next season.
You are arguing against things that absolutely no one is saying. Not a single person has said they don’t want Montero to catch next year. Not a single person has said they don’t want Montero to be the catcher of the future. Not a single person has said Posada is good defensively. What people ARE saying, which you completely refuse to acknowledge, because you are so smart, is that 1) Posada’s bat makes up for his lack of defense, and 2) IT’S FUCKING RETARDED TO CARRY THREE CATCHERS.
Montero is on a hot streak, and he’s 20 years old. That’s not a career Triple-A catcher. Also, you don’t know how bad or good Montero is behind the plate. You’re just assuming he’s better than Posada.
Cervelli is just a backup catcher by the way. Posada’s offense is a lot better than what Cervelli has to offer.
Posada’s offense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cervelli
Just to be clear: Posada’s a bad defensive catcher, so you want to replace him with Montero?
That doesn’t make much sense.
You mean, Montario.
Posada is a DH masquerading as an atrocious catcher
Mike Piazza: horrendous defensively, STILL one of the best catchers ever.
we will unfortunately have to grin and bear for the rest of this season
And next.
Yanks will start Cervelli at C more when they have a much bigger lead over Tampa Bay and Boston.
Maybe briefly, but as the postseason nears, no.
Jesus Montero and Cervelli have to share catching and Posada has to be the DH next season, if the Yanks won’t/can’t get a veteran free-agent catcher or a new catching tandem.
Um, no.
You won’t trade him for Cliff Lee,
False. They offered him for Lee, it’s the Mariners who backed out.
In your own words, you’re an idiot.
This.
Hey moron, the Mariners didn’t back out, Cashman didn’t pull the trigger. But you keep believing the Yankees front office spin machine where every time they don’t land big game, it’s cuz the other team pulled out, used the Yanks to get a better deal, or the other team wanted too much. Cashman and Co. are the biggest crybabies when they don’t get what they want. When you want Johann Santana, you MUST give up Hughes and/or Chamberlain. When you want Cliff Lee, you MUST give up Montero.
You have to give something to get something. The Yankees have sent so much crap to other teams the past decade, it is as difficult as ever for them to make a deal.
Where did you pull Mike Piazza out of, your ass? Yep. WTF does he have to do with this discussion? Piazza is a first-ballot Hall Of Famer and buries Posada in every way. He was the one Met I feared the most, I seriously doubt Posada is even in the top 10 Yankees the Mets feared the most when Piazza was a Met.
Rivera, Jeter, Williams, O’Neill, Clemens, A-Rod, Giambi, Martinez, Teixiera, and Mussina all scare/d Mets fans before Posada did. Piazza? #1 biggest threat to the Yanks in any regular or postseason game, hands-down. That you even invoked Piazza shows what an idiot you are.
I never said Cervelli would play more as the postseason nears, way to twist my words around.
“Um, no” Montero and Cervelli can’t share C next year WHY???
If Posada falls to injury in April and is out 3 months if not the entire season next year, who plays everyday, Chad Moeller? You serious? Who do the Yanks have on the farm to land an acceptable starting catcher? Montero? No team would want him by then and if you trade him and the return sucks, now you lost Montero, the trade acquisition after 2011, and most likely Posada after 2011. Then you need a new catcher for 2012.
Hey moron, the Mariners didn’t back out, Cashman didn’t pull the trigger
Have you read anything on this stuff? It’s been said pretty clearly all around baseball that the Mariners backed out of the trade at the last minute. We aren’t assuming this.
Also, you continue to insult others. Stop insulting people, or you’re going to get banned from RAB.
Cookiepuss says:
Hey moron,
Cookiepuss:
A tip: whatever you say in a comment after the words “Hey Moron” isn’t going to get read. You’re just wasting your breath. You think you’re “just dishing back out what people are giving to you”, but what you’re actually doing is painting a picture of yourself as a short-tempered thin-skinned immature person not worthy of having a grownup conversation with.
Have some people around here said things to you that you probably didn’t deserve? Sure, probably. Doesn’t change the fact that you’ve dug a hole for yourself with your childish over-the-top responses. This isn’t going to get any better until you show some humility and remorse, and if you do, perhaps the people who have ‘wronged” you that you feel justified in attacking will show some humility and remorse to you as well.
This.
But it’s difficult to reason with people who aren’t willing to reason.
-Almost every single sports news outlet reported Lee was on the way to the Yankees until Seattle backed out at the last minute to trade with Texas. You are 100% wrong.
-It’s laughably ironic you say the Yankees won’t ever give anything up, yet complain to the high heavens about how much they gave up for Granderson.
-Posada has been in the top 6 of AL MVP twice. He’s been second on the Yankees in OPS three times. I wasn’t even comparing him to Piazza except in the sense that a great bat can outweigh bad defense. Piazza was worse defensively than Posada (or almost anyone.)
-You made it sound like the Yankees were going to start phasing Posada out at catcher this year, which they won’t.
-Montero and Cervelli can’t share catcher next year because we have Jorge Posada signed as a catcher
-Yes, I’m totally series. I want Chad Moeller to be our starting catcher next year. Got me. Who plays every day at 3B if A-Rod goes down? You don’t build teams based on the possibility of someone being out for the year. If Montero continues to rake, his value goes up not down.
-Fuck you.
Now look what you has dones Cookiepuss
Dirty Pena is very, very upset.
Hah, I’m just going to leave picking apart his arguments to someone else from now on (it’s easy enough.) This guy annoys me way more than he should. I don’t think I want to turn this into a tommie-SGBL thing. (note: yes I do, but it’s not worth it.)
Understandably so. I have to stop responding to him too.
I’ve got a stiuation for you, Yankees trailing, with the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, who would you rather have at bat? The soft hitting, whiffle bat swinging Cervelli? Or the power hitting Posada? Or whoever the DH is? Say Miranda or Thames, or Trade fill in. I think the answer is obvious.
Rod Barajas!! The shitty, shitty catcher who is being pilloried in the same town as Posada! OBVIOUSLY he’s the answer!
To quote myself: Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy talk, more crazy talk, totally crazy talk, ROD BARAJAS?!?!??!
Our original introduction to Cookiepuss.
Sigh, I’m gonna miss that guy when he’s banned.
3 run homer off Davies would be something memorable. reanactment of 500
So…hows that Granderson?
that didn’t look like he swung
Wouldn’t it be kinda awesome if Davies threw at A-Rod here?
I haven’t seen a good baseball brawl in a while.
I’d throw at him, esp. after surrendering 500.
Eh I’d rather avoid injury/suspension.
Maybe if Shelly Duncan was up there? Eh even then, no point to risk injury when they’re up in the division.
Three run shot, right here, right now.
About that…
That’d be kinda difficult with only one guy on base
There are three types of people, those who can count and those who can’t…
Haha, I’m going to assume that you were making fun of Steve when you said “there are THREE types of people”
LOL Angelo, nah not making fun of Steve. Just that the whole situation just reminded me of the quote.
+1
Oh, I was being sarcastic. I’ll try to be more obvious next time.
I figured, haha.
600 Alex!
Dumb text poll.
Can someone explain muffin dick
Take a good look at “Cookiepuss”
ohhhhhhhh looooooool
Peter Griffin: Hey, what’s your friend’s name?
Al Gore: Dick Armey.
Peter Griffin: [laughs] No, seriously, what’s his name?
Al Gore: [beat] … Dick Armey.
Peter Griffin: [bursts out laughing]
Al Gore: [laughs] Oh, oh, I just got that.
Peter Griffin: Hey, Armey, what’s your wife’s name, Vagina Coastguard? [continues to laugh]
It is very easy to judge a player in a reactionary manner in response to a few plays, handful of at bats, or a couple outings.
Over a 162 game season though and in Jorge Posada’s case a 13 year career those small missteps along the way do not define who he is.
What happens most often is that there is a middle ground between the two extremes of responses.
Jorge is certainly not a good defensive catcher but his bad plays/mental mishaps the past few days are not representative of who he really is as a catcher.
Of course, but crazy, illogical fans will say otherwise.
Well, Mitre’s keeping the ball on the ground.
Good job Mitre, the more balls on the ground, the less we have to see of Thames in the outfield.
Amen to that.
I read “the more balls on the ground” and giggled like a schoolgirl.
Balls on the ground
Balls on the ground
Lookin’ like a fool with your balls on the ground
Damnit, beat me to it.
Wow, Thames with an infield hit.
He had to sacrifice a few chickens and goats to the deity of his choice for a crazy lucky hit like that.
Ha, funny you should say that. Thames always reminds me of Pedro Cerrano (because of how ridiculous he looks whenever someone throws him a curve.)
Creepy time in the top of the third!
I’ve said this before, but Michael Kay stalking Kim Jones would make a great “ripped from the headlines” episode of Law & Order: SVU
Eating meat in the clubhouse. Hmmm.
This was my initial thought.
Surely this has to do with the hot tub with the 12-man capacity. (Yes, this exists in the Yankee Stadium clubhouse. Um, whooooah.)
Bex we all know what you would with access to that hot tub.
Such a naughty cheerleader superheroine.
Nerd, you forgot nerd.
Also Carlosologist, aren’t you like 10? Have you even had “the talk” yet? ;P
It’s “knowitall nerd.” Dummy.
Really?
Jeter gave BG acid reflux.
Has Kay had a conversation with Kim Jones this year that hasn’t been creepy?
Nope. It’s been the creepiest third inning all season.
I did not see the other two comments on the same thing
Nope, not that I know of.
Creepy Kay is creepy Kay.
Boy…Jeter’s just got no range out th– Oh, wait.
“Past a diving Pena” … Doesn’t quite have the same ring as Jeter
I’m sure if Pena could hit, it would flow better off of the tongue.
Come on, boys! The way you’re lollygaggin’ around there with them
picksbats and themshovelsballs, you’d think it was a hundert an’ twenty degree. Can’t be more than a hundert an’ fourteen.I HIRED YOU TO LAY SOME TRACK, NOT JUMP AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF KANSAS CITY F#$%&S!!!
(Bonus points for the quote being apropos for today’s game.)
Mitre blows!
Boy, if you would have told me two years ago that I’d miss Brett Gardner’s arm in LF… I’d have told you you were crazy.
I have seen this game about 10 times in KC. The Yankees POUND the Royals for 3 out of 4 but one of those games we start half of the AAA roster and someone like Mitre pitches. When Arod was trying to get 500 it was Igawa, and nobody is focused. Mitre is reminding me of that start against the White Sox last year. This is truly pathetic so far. Good thing we come back to win a 1/3 of these.
Hughes started when A-Rod hit his 500th.
Mitre is reminding me of that start against the White Sox last year.
He no-hit them for like six innings, no? I wish this was like that!
This game is lame, it’s also the top of the third.
ya you misread what I said, no biggie. I said when he was TRYING to get 500. It was a 4 game series in KC and Arod hit 499 off Meche to right center on a 91 mph cutter way out and down on Meche’s like 135th pitch of the game, then we broke it open and he k’s against Dotel in his last AB. That was game 3 of the series. The next night Igawa pitched in the get away game and Arod didn’t have a hit and Igawa threw like 20% of his pitches for strikes and nobody played hard, it was very ugly, especially cuz i had to BEG a friend to drive me to KC for the game. I wish it was like that game. Check out this box score for a reminder of the game I was talking about. I was all excited for Costas and Katt as announcers too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=290731104
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=270726107
there’s the kc game…see what i mean about the lineup too?
also Kaat*
Ohhhh, sorry. My bad, I did misread that. I forgot 499 was off the Royals (in KC) too.
did you check those box scores?? the only cool part was up until last year with the new renovations to the K, anything besides those 4 or 5 rows way down for family friends etc, tickets right behind the dugouts or the plate were under $30 a piece….even for premium games. In my only YSII appearance it was like $500 EACH for the two tickets behind the radar gun. WORTH IT.
Hey guys–did you know that it’s hot at Yankee Stadium today?
This is news to me.
Aren’t you the one that’s friends with Cito Culver? Just wondering if you’ve heard anything from him.
I’m a big Yankee fan, but I’m sorry: I don’t want my car to be white with blue pinstripes. That looks horrendously stupid.
I was in Monterey, Ca. for the Fourth of July weekend. Saw this white car with a black and teal Yankees theme. WTF.
NJ’s career is now over.
I heard they’re gonna start packaging him in bubble wrap and and packing peanuts on road trips.
Nick Johnson = Frank Vitchard
I would have laughed if NJ got hit by that bat and suffered another fractured wrist.
Who is this Nick Johnson guy?
Ramiro Pena is apparently not satisfied with sucking, he wants to take some people out.
Nick Johnson has another set back. After trying to avoid the bat from Ramiro Pena his cleat gets stuck in the dugout floor and he breaks his knee.
oh no….don’t hit nick johnson….
So, Jeter, what the hell?
I have bad news tsjc, you owe someone $1 over that Nick Johnson bet.
Indeed. It was a ballsy bet by me, and that’s what happens when you’ve got big balls; sometimes you get them caught in the subway turnstile.
LOL
Good thing they will never remember the bet. You sly dog.
Is that Granderson in the Turkey Hill commercial?
Mitre is getting squeezed.
Dustin Moseley anyone?
I wish we had Joba ready and stretched out at AAA.
I thought it was Spike Lee, myself.
Whee, here come the trolls.
So a coincidence that Pettitte announced today that his groin feels good and he expects to be back sooner than expected? Perhaps the Yankees wanted that out so teams they’re negotiating with know they’re not desperate? Then again, if they watch how Sergio is pitching today…
betemit and ankiel why not
Dare I say the name… Tim Redding?
Singled and doubled to death. I really expected better from Mitre today, but this is almost completely non-competitive.
So did I, although wasn’t overly optimistic. He pitched well in Spring Training and the early part of the year, but he’s been off and he wasn’t sharp in his rehab assignment. He’ll get better. I doubt he can get worse that what we’ve seen today!
Maybe Cash will realize trading Joba for Haren isn’t that bad of an idea.
I AGREE!
What bothers me the most about that is that it wouldn’t surprise me to see Joba make that look like a bad trade as soon as 2011. I understand that you have to provide players with upside to nab an established star, but Joba isn’t some guy in A+ or AA — he’s had MLB success.
If they don’t believe Joba is anything more than a reliever, which right now appears to be true, they have to pull the trigger on that trade. Doesn’t matter what he does with Arizona after the fact, if you see him as a long-term reliever, make that deal.
Dan Haren anyone?
I just jizzed in my pants.
That’s why Tex’s friends call him whiskers.
That was a better play by Tex than the one in the playoffs to save Robertson when the bases were loaded.
You know the one.
but what was more important…
When Kay said, “reflexes like a cat!”, I laughed like crazy for no reason.
Does anyone else see us losing as a positive? This could add a sense of urgency to the front office to get Haren. I really don’t see how we can’t land Haren now…we have two sure-fire starters in CC and Pettitte that we know will throw a great game every time we go out. Haren can make it three with this roster.
No, I see losing and forcing the Yankees to give up valuable assets for Haren to be a negative.
Having Mitre hold the fort until Pettitte returns and winning would be a positive.
Joba isn’t necessarily the most valuable asset anymore. Nova is good, not incredibly valuable either.
Also, not sure what game you’re watching? Mitre isn’t holding the fort. He’s given up 6 runs.
I said Mitre holding the fort “would” be a positive, not “is” a positive.
I would personally pull the trigger on the Haren deal if it’s Joba/Nova/another mediocre prospect. I just don’t see being forced to make a trade because your 5th starter is horrible as any sort of positive.
Tex made a great play. Oh wait, he does this all the time.
This game isn’t going well. We may need to start considering some of the trades Pete Abraham proposed-
Joba and Robertson for David Ortiz
David Robertson for Mike Lowell
The Yankees need a DH claims Abraham. These proposed trades were 2 days after he declared the Red Sox the favorite to win the division.
I really hope you’re not serious.
Pete Abe proposed David Ortiz + 2 prospects for Joba and Montero at one point, I believe.
When did he do that? When covering the Sox of the Yankees. Obviously meant as a joke…I hope.
Yesterday.
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....sox_a.html
Pete Abe when from bad to worse ever since he left LoHud. He’s gotten in fights with people in his comment section and comes off as completely unprofessional. Also, he clearly knows next to nothing about baseball.
I agree with Wes.
I remember Giambi used to make plays like th…
forget it…
Mitre sucks! I mean he is awful!
Mitre was seriously not ready today. Nova should have gotten the start. He is HORRIBLE. O wait here comes Dustin Moselsey. He should have been DFA. We have the highest payroll in all of baseball and MItre is our starter and Mosely is coming in.
You forget that Mitre was in the pen and is only starting because Pettitte is hurt.
No i don’t forget that. I just am disgusted. We are in first place but we really aren’t clicking. Our bullpen needs a TON of work and honestly dustin mosely shouldn’t be in the bullpen. Think about this: Gaudin was DFA by the Atheltics and he is in the best team in baseball’s bullpen. Surely, that doesn’t make any sense. WIth the highest payroll our bullpen shouldn’t have holes.
Every team in baseball has holes. The bullpen does have holes, but it’s more of an issue with consistency.
it doesn’t matter what your payroll is, every single team in baseball has legitimate concerns. every last one. And every team in baseball history has had legitimate concerns, and every team in the future of baseball will have legitimate concerns.
With the amount of money they charge for seats, you expect stars on the field. WOuld you want to be there today against the royals for a lot of money with Mitre and Mosely pitching in the 100 degree heat if A-Rod wasn’t pursuing 600? No.
So you mean there are no stars on the field? You’re complaining about the last man in the bullpen? Really?
If you don’t like the prices, don’t go. There will be a dozen others behind you to buy those same tickets.
I have season tickets. Made me sign a 2 year contract so that isn’t an option.
They didn’t make you do anything.
But i can voice my opinion on it and recommend others not to do it.
I can always tell those fans that are not going……………
get real…….ifyou pay more for something you expect more…………..you pay alot do not give me diner food…mitre, mosely are diner food.
With the amount of money they charge for seats, you expect stars on the field.
No.
With the amount of money they charge for seats, YOU expect stars on the field.
I simply expect a team in or near first place and a team that is a legit contender for a title every year, and that’s what the Yankees have given me every year for the past decade and a half (including this current 2010 team, as is).
if they charge the prices they do, they should look to improve the team in every way, right? SO with that I want them to sign Lee next year without question. That is why i wanted AJ, CC, TEx, and at the time sadly Lowe or Sheets.
if they charge the prices they do, they should look to improve the team in every way, right?
No.
How much they charge is not a function of how much they do what you personally want them to do. How much they charge is only a function of what market rate they can charge. Your personal views or wishes are irrelevant.
Moreover, there are other fans who also pay those ticket prices who want them to do things other than what you want them to do. If the Yankees player personnel decisions offend you, stop buying tickets. Simple as that.
You’re right, I’ve decided. It is unacceptable to have a team that isn’t something roughly equal to this:
C: Johnny Bench
1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Joe Morgan
SS: Honus Wagner
3B: Alex Rodriguez
LF: Barry Bonds
CF: Willy Mays
RF: Hank Aaron
DH: Babe Ruth
SP: Bob Gibson
SP: Roger Clemens
SP: Tom Seaver
SP: Steve Carlton
SP: Greg Maddux
RP: Goose Gossage
RP: Bruce Sutter
RP: Dave Righetti
RP: Catfish Hunter
RP: Dennis Eckersley
CL: Mariano Rivera
Not being able to field a team that good is disgusting.
thanks for the sarcasm. you dont get my point
He’s definitely exaggerating but that also sounds something along the lines of what you were saying.
We get your point, and disagree with it.
You’re a Yankee fan who pays high ticket costs and thus wants the team to get every possible superstar they can to justify your high cost of fandom.
We’re also Yankee fans who pay high ticket costs, but we want the team to simply build a championship caliber club in the smartest and most sustainable way possible, whether that means acquiring superstars at every position or giving some positions to lower-paid, less-heralded but still effective role players.
Your way is not by default better than our way, or vice versa. Your way is probably less sustainable and less feasible than our way, though.
i agree with the logic and my comment was blown out of proportion. what i meant to say, it is hard to interpret writing on the internet, is I as a fan and paying customer feel the Yankees should put the best team they can on the field, do you agree? Now what i meant was that we shouldn’t have rejects of the A’s in our bullpen. We should have either a young arm up to get a chance or we should go out and get a proven veteren reliever we can trust.
I get that, I really do. The problem is, there just aren’t that many consistently reliable relievers in existence, vet or not. The yankees could have Papelbon, K-Rod, Valverde, and Rafael Soriano in their bullpen every year and they’d probably have a middling bullpen every couple of years.
As a fan and paying customer feel the Yankees should put the best team they can on the field, do you agree?
Yes, I agree.
Now what i meant was that we shouldn’t have rejects of the A’s in our bullpen. We should have either a young arm up to get a chance or we should go out and get a proven veteren reliever we can trust.
The problem with that, though, is that you have to look at the big picture. Could our team be improved by DFAing Gaudin and going and making a trade for Octavio Dotel or Rafael Soriano? Sure, that would improve our team. What would be the cost in prospects, though? What players would we not pursue because of the salaries and roster spots taken up by Dotel or Soriano? Are there pitchers who would have been in Gaudin’s spot if not for injuries, and are they returning soon?
It’s more complex than just “We are the Yankees so Chad Gaudin should never be on our team.”
You’re correct in the abstract, but you’re oversimplifying a bit.
O i definately agree Pete that there aren’t maybe relievers out there so I think the first thing is to look within the organization.
you do not get it ….i want what……………. the yankees say is their standard……………to win each year or the year is not successful……….that is the yankee standard and the jeter way
But the reason the payroll is so high is unrelated to the pen — Mariano is the only one of them making serious money, and I don’t think anyone has any complaints about him.
Not to mention, buying a pen through free agency isn’t a great idea — just ask the O’s how that worked out.
(Now, if you’re going to talk about how much Chan Ho Park sucks, you have my 100% support. At least Gaudin/Moseley have upside/roles)
I know you hate CHoP beyond anything and I understand that, but explain how Gaudin is better than him. Really.
Or Moseley…
Gaudin has shown the ability to be a useful (>95 ERA+) starter and longman over the past several years. That’s probably not good enough to crack the Yankees’ rotation, but it’s a useful pitcher to have around. Not to mention, he’s on the right side of 30, and is right now cheap as hell.
The only one of those points that Park has in his favor is the $$$, and even that is more than league minimum.
Really? You’re disgusted over a game in June? The Yankees are 61-34. Yeah, their bullpen is nothing special, but it’s basically middle of the road. There are far worse bullpens in baseball.
The reason the bullpen is flawed is because Cashman will never give out more than 1 year deals to relievers. We could have had Rafael Soriano a while back or Dotel and wouldn’t have to consider trading for them.
Soriano has never been a free agent.
Why would you give 36-year-old Dotel multiple years? And when has a multi-year deal for a middle reliever ever worked out, for any team. Name three. I’ll wait.
That.
Cashman’s “horribly flawed” bullpens have been the among the best bullpens in baseball the past two years. It just takes half a season or so to sort the wheat from the chaff, but Cashman’s strategy to give Girardi lots of wheat and chaff options that are easily fungible is a sound strategy.
2 years is long-term?
Did you ever say two years?
i said cashman won’t sign anyone for the bullpen unless its a one year deal with an option. i was trying to say giving someone two years once in a while wont hurt. BRing up the young arms and DFA Gaudin, Mosely, and Park if you aren’t goin to sign relievers
Stanton, Nelson, Mendoza
I just am disgusted.
You’re disgusted with first place and the best record in baseball? I understand recognizing the team’s not perfect, but disgusted? C’mon, man.
WIth the highest payroll our bullpen shouldn’t have holes.
Believe it or not, even the Yankees can’t just go out and buy a bullpen of, IDK, Soria, Mo, Kuo, insert other awesome closers here.
…and we’re in first place. Get perspective.
Calm down. It’s one game. And it’s not over. Tex just hit one out so we’re only down 5 now.
If I was A-Rod I wouldn’t hit it today
Paulie loves his ice cream.
Is this going to be a case of asking Mitre to take one for the team and give us six innings? The Yankees can certainly come back from six runs down, but not wiping out the bullpen may pay better dividends in coming games.
Tex hit a screamer over the RF porch.
Cano told A-Rod to move up too. A-Rod you suck.
wowza
Wow… punch to the gut. Should be first and second with no out…
Yeah, god, get this Posada bum out of the lineup, Cervelli is so much better with his 1 home run the last 2 years!
/muffindick’d
Listen, you idiot moron asswipe shithead, Posada is horrible and you know it. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.
/Muffindick’d
The royalty checks roll in…
Thanks, Poopy Pants. It was a great name, you’ve earned it.
Off topic from game but Olney tweets that yankees and dbacks have not talked recently and were never close to anything… And also says Dbacks are now talking with tigers
So I was thinking about how underrated Dan Haren is. How has he stacked up against some highly touted pitchers over the last 5 years (using Fangraphs WAR)?
Dan Haren: 24.0 WAR
King Felix: 22.8 WAR
Johan Santana: 22.3 WAR
Justin Verlander: 22.2 WAR
That’s funny, I was thinking about him having a poor home run rate, in Oakland, of all places. I suppose I can give him credit for that not getting much worse in Arizona.
FIP used to calculate WAR on Fangraphs is park-adjusted. So the park shouldn’t have an impact on performance.
NOOO JOBA is the bestest ever! We can’t trade him. He’s tooooo valuable.
Now that’s a stadium shot.
Man…if it weren’t for that diving play at chort.
“short”
That double play….Kay just finished my words.
Way to go Jorge. The bat is something you can’t get on him for.
If you told me there would be two HRs this inning, I would have bet one was by A-Rod.
Would be funny if every player in the lineup gets a homerun EXCEPT for AROD.
Didn’t that pretty much happen when A-Rod was going for 500? Like, the Yankees set a team record for HRs in a game, and like 6 or 7 Yankees hit HRs, but not Alex? Heh.
might have been the record for most different yanks to do it, but the team record was set or at least tied back in ’06 against the white sox when they hit 8 HRs
Walk of slam by Alex.
I hate sinker ballers. Mitre you pitch worse than a Meat-tray would. Haren is not who the Yanks should be targeting. Let the Tigers have him. The guy they need is sitting in the opposing dugout at the Stadium………Zach Greinke. He is younger, a power pitcher and makes less than Haren. Montero, Joba, and 3 other prospects for Greinke and Soria. The dynasty would extend.
What about Greinke’s social anxiety disorder?
Ya, he could never pitch in NY. He wouldn’t allow it.
Montero, Joba, and 3 other prospects for Greinke and Soria.
Fuck and no.
I just remembered why I’ve been avoiding game threads lately.
This Game Thread is particularly bad.
Generally I avoid them. I need my monthly dose of stupidity, however.
Though I agree, this one is extra stupid. My guess is cause the trade deadline is near. The trade deadline ALWAYS brings out the stupid.
Perhaps it’s still around, but it seems to me that it might be time for a renewed commitment to O:S.
I mean, I enjoy discussing the issues with people that don’t agree and even when people are “snarky” it’s almost always clearly in good fun, but once it devolves into name-calling, YELLING, ridiculous trades, and statements of how much a first-place team “sucks” then it just becomes tiring to read through.
I’d approve, but O:S seems like a fantasy. It only works with legends like Bo, and even then, there’s always someone who can’t help themselves. I’m sure I’ve been guilty more than once of breaking O:S, but yeah.
Wow, it seems like Guillen just murders the Yankees every time he comes here.
Yankees score, Mitre gives it right back. The epitome of a pitcher who doesn’t belong.
As long as that doesn’t push the Yankees to acquire Guillen, I’m ok with it.
Guillen has so much talent. If he ever got his head straight, he would be a guy i would want the Yankees to get. It is true he kills the Yanks
Joe Posnanski is a Royals fan (and a smart one). Ditto Rob Neyer.
They both detest Jose Guillen and would love to invent a time machine to be able to go back and keep him from ever cursing their beloved franchise with his horrible non-production. They’re right.
Guillen blows. He’s an offensive negative. With the rate he makes outs, his homers and RBI are the most hollowest HR and RBI in the league.
Stay far, far away from Jose Guillen.
I fully agree, but it’s not totally incorrect to say that he has a lot of talent; he has power, and I do remember him once throwing somebody out at third from the warning track in the RF corner when he was on the Pirates, which was pretty sick. In essence, he’s Andre Dawson-lite (or very lite), which is to say, not valuable.
I think he’s just a rich man’s Jeff Francoeur.
On the bright side, Jose Guillen has a 1.3WAR this year. That’s something (not great, but no terrible.)
Scary enough, he’s only been worth 7.6 WAR for his career. I thought he was better than that.
According to fangraphs
Why was Kay so excited about that?
When was the last time someone went second deck in left at yankee stadium? That was a shot.
No Idea. Acts like no one went 2nd deck before.
It went all the way into the second deck in left. Opposing team or not, that’s an impressive shot.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=6836643
Girardi as usual stays with Mitre to long. He gave up 5 to a bad team, so you run him out there to be ineffective longer.
Big picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one game
This is ah must win game.
True. but you are trying to win games. Mitre was not going to go that much longer so why don’t you start the inning with a fresh pitcher?
Because every inning Mitre pitches is one that somebody else doesn’t have to.
Maybe he gets lucky and gets a couple ground balls. You can’t kill the pen when we don’t have a day off for 2 weeks.
I think the lithium and or prozac are working. Plus I think CC, and AJ would nurture him. Assuming they sign Lee as well(I’m thinking Pettitte retires) He would be the numer 3 on the staff. I mean look at this @#*%*$^! rotation on paper
CC
Lee
Greinke
Burnett
Hughes
Please use the reply button in the future. Thank you.
Lay off the crack pipe. It’s bad for you
Too bad Greinke hates being recognized in malls in KC. NYC would not suit him at all.
I like Greinke and would love to add him.
But not for Montero. I’m not giving up on the best bat in the minor leagues for a pitcher with serious red flags like Greinke. Far, far too risky (especially for a non-need, which it is with CC, Hughes, Javy, Pettitte, AJ, and Lee all current or future Yankees).
At least this means Nova might get a shot if he isn’t traded for Haren.
hopefully, fingers crossed.
Further proof Pete Abe has lost it….
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....sox_a.html
Satire is my favorite kind of writing.
Pete never “had it” in the first place.
“Is it true that if you don’t use it, you lose it?”
eh he’s just having fun. His ideas aren’t totally ridiculous. They’d never happen, but they’re no worse than the average fan’s trade proposal.
Is that you Pete Abe… jk
He is not an ave fan is he, though you would be confused after you would read that post.
I think its a desperate attempt by him to drum up some comments, thats all.
They’d never happen, but they’re no worse than the average fan’s trade proposal.
True, but I’d be more interested if the professional sports writer who’s being paid to cover a sport in depth went above and beyond the average fan’s trade proposal. Otherwise, they could just wire a mike up to the stadium and ask fans for their trade proposals. At least that would be more entertaining than what most “sports writers” today produce.
I think Pete Abe knows his pathetic audience…
check this comment
“Ortiz, Lowell and Paplebon for Joba and Jesus Monteiro..”
Brilliant!
Or try something huge. David Ortiz, Jose Iglesias and Ryan Kalish for Joba Chamberlain and Jesus Montero.
——– Hahaha, Pete Abe is the best.
More than anything it’s bothersome that he thinks the side on the left is remotely close to equal to the side on the right.
If it aint pathetic it aint Pete Abe.
Jeter is really struggling.
Hey Tommie Boy cause Joba and his act seem to handle NY so well? Obviously you still believe in the 07 Joba will return pipe dream. Why is that a bad trade? The other 3 would be a Nova or McCallister and then 2 minimum prospects. You are still loaded with catching prospects, and you still have either Nova or McCallister and Neosi and Betances. Plus Soria can succeed Mo. Other than Greinke’s disorder this is a no-brainer compared to giving up a similar package for Haren.
Reply fail.
(Or, this is not LoHud)
GREINKE DOESN’T WANT TO PITCH IN NEW YORK.
USE THE REPLY BUTTON.
The package you are talking about is not even close to the package supposedly being offered for Haren.
Billy, I get that. But those names are being bandied about in the conversation in certain combinations regarding Haren. My point is I don’t think Haren’s stuff translates to the AL East. Montero is not going to be a big league catcher I believe. He is a DH/1B. With Tex a first and A-Rod and Posada having to share DH duties my feeling is there is no place for him. With him they have the ability to get CY Young caliber aces like Greinke, King Felix, Verlander or Josh Johnson. Last I checked 3 of those guys have no chance of being available. I think Haren is a solid 2 in the NL and a 3 or 4 in the AL. Sorry about the reply button. i’m new here. Thanks for having me by the way.
I disagree with you on Haren’s translation to the AL East, but you are entitled to your opinion and may be right.
As for Montero being a DH/1B, I think it’s still just too soon to tell on that note. And selling him now because of that is jumping the gun.
Welcome aboard, though, and happy commenting!
I forgot Dan Haren started the All Star game for the American League a few years ago when he was a memeber of the Oakland Athletics.
True but the AL West is not the gauntlet that is the east. see Cahill, Trevor. Yanks lit him up like a Christmas tree
Yeah, we will see. I mean if it is Joba, and not that good of a package of prospects like Mike says for sure you get Haren cause clearly Mitre sucks. I will say healthy, educated debate about the best sport in the world is awesome. I am a lifelong Yanks fan from Conn living in Detroit(wife) This is so not a baseball town and the fans here don’t know squat. They already think Brennan Bosch is the 2nd coming of Ted Williams. So thanks for having me
Thats creepy because I also use to live in Connecticut and I live in detroit now.
Detroit is hockey town. and will always be hockey town.
Wow. Small world. Where in the D? I moved when I was 8 to Chicago, then ended up here
You are the perfect example of what we are trying to explain to Muffindick.
That.
There’s nothing wrong with having a differing opinion. There’s something wrong with being a hot-tempered dick while having a differing opinion, though.
Welcome aboard, Brendan.
Wordy McWord.
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A.) Pleas use the reply button.
B.) My name is not Tommie Boy.
C.) Your concerns about Joba are legitimate, and I’d part with him under the right circumstances. He’s not the problem. Montero is. I’m not trading Jesus Montero the 20 year old stud hitting machine for a relief pitcher and a starter born and raised in the midwest with an anxiety condition, when we don’t actually need a starter. Montero I would trade for certain guys in certain situations, but trading him for Greinke and Soria is a horrible misuse of resources.
My apologies Tommie, I was kidding on the name
No problemo.
Granderson looked way too happy to take that walk
/old joke
Tex making the game interesting…
Yay, Tex has 20!
Tex, Drugs, and Rock % Roll.
DAMN YOU KYLE DAVIS..why cant you save that hanger to A-Rod???
for**
I’m enjoying Mark Teixeira remembering that he’s a good hitter.
A-Rod walk-off grandslam. The only way this game can end.
Dustin Moseley is very quietly keeping the Yankees in this game. We should clamor to DFA pitchers more often.
Blind squirrel, nut.
Just a joke. All I meant was that Park didn’t suck two days ago, and Gaudin didn’t suck last night, and Moseley hasn’t been sucking…yet. I’d still rather see Albaladejo here.
Me too.
The Yankee braintrust has essentially transformed Joba into Kyle Farnsworth. One more grace note to remind us of Joe Torre’s final flailing years.
I guess Joba has nothing to do with the way he has performed.
That’s not exactly what JohnnyC said, though.
The Yankee braintrust has essentially transformed Joba into Kyle Farnsworth
Am I missing something?
Saying that the Yankee braintrust has ruined Joba Chamberlain does not mean that Joba has NOTHING to do with his own performance. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. There’s an undistributed middle there.
I think Joba is partially to blame for his own performance, but I agree with the statement that the Yankee FO has ruined Joba Chamberlain.
It really annoys me that people say the FO ruined Joba. He’s the one taking the mound and not getting the job done. The front office is’nt the one pitching he is.
He’s the one taking the mound and not getting the job done. The front office is’nt the one pitching he is.
But the FO isn’t just sending him up to the mound and telling him to pitch, they’re yo-yoing him back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen, telling him to be more economical but also be more ferocious, telling him that his role with the club is up in the air, etc.
I get you in that ultimately it’s on him. But pitchers have development plans, and Joba’s development plan has been the worst-planned plan in the recent history of baseball. To say that the utter lack of consistency in the way he’s been handled, prepped, trained, and managed has isn’t a factor and it’s all on Joba… that’s not fair.
Neither side is wholly to blame, but both sides are partially to blame.
What’s with all the negative, the sky is falling, the earth is crumbling comments lately? There seem to be more than usual.
I have no idea. It’s totally weird and a bit frightening.
It’s hot. People get cranky. Maybe O’Neill can get everyone here milkshakes.
fun fact: If Carlos Gomez didn’t robbed A-Rod’s home run at the dome last season, friday night’s bomb would be his 600th!!!
/blaming another person
If A-Rod took steroids earlier in his career he would already be the home run king
/duh
*wink*
Hey, the tying run is up!
Oh wait, it’s Ramiro Pena
Pena, still horrible.
Fucking Pena. Automatic out.
Why no pinch hitter for Pena?
Because we don’t have a second backup shortstop. Almost no team does.
Jeter can un-DH. I’d trade a tie game going into extras for the loss of a hitter in the lineup.
The problem would be using up the bullpen. If you did make the switch early and were fortunate enough to tie the score, you’d risk having to burn through more of the bullpen than you otherwise would, especially if the game went into extra innings.
With few days off coming up, my thinking would be to approach it more conservatively at this point. If you are facing the same situation in the 9th, you might think about it then. But you still have to balance this game with the team’s needs over the next several weeks.
That. Again:
Big picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one game
Well that’s true. It’s not a big deal one way or the other- after all it’s just one game and you’re right, no need to burn the bullpen. I just don’t want to blindly rule out pinch hitting for Ramiro Pena just because Jeter is DH’ing.
But if Swisher and Gardner are off limits, our bench is Cervelli and Miranda. If you pinch hit for Peña with Miranda and lose the DH, the next time the spot comes up in the order you’re going to have to pinch hit for the pitcher with Cervelli (which you can’t really do since he’s the backup catcher). Meaning, you’re subbing out Peña’s bat for the upgrade of Miranda but then the pitcher’s batting every single remaining time through the order, including extra innings.
Not really worth it.
Yes, but what if it happens in the 9th? Obviously the 6th isn’t as black and white (Miranda could obviously get out) but we don’t need a 3rd SS to pinch hit for Pena if it means extending the game. That’s what I’m saying, not necessarily that it should’ve happened in the 6th.
And everything is now moot with Swisher in.
Yup.
the bench today = eeeek
so bex i know you were enjoying these Royals stories so you might enjoy this one. The announcers are going through our 2010 media guide mocking almost every page. They’re picking random stats and saying nobody cares about Arod leading the league with 31 RBI’s in August last year and they’re just making constant fun of us like we’re some little league team. They do this EVERY SINGLE GAME…when they get up they get cocky, when they get behind the turn into dicks. The play by play says the stat and Frank White of all people says…um who cares I don’t care about any of that, nobody cares. These are the Royals with the biggest scoreboard in baseball, and they have consistently the stupidest stats up there. They have to manufacture good stats to make their players look decent. When a guy comes to bat they’ll be like, Rick Ankiel is hitting .500 on day games following a rain delay on tuesday when the guy who made the last out was a switch hitter with facial hair in May. That’s an exaggeration obviously but closer than you’d think. If not for those two GIDP’s….geez. Somebody get Jeter a hit….let’s all pitch in and buy him one.
Well, consider what your attitude would be like if the best job you could get was doing Royals games. The levels of alienation, the desperate longings for a semblance of normality and dignity, and the ultimate realization that all hope has been lost.
ya it’s like when i was a kid and an umpire or ref would make a bad call and i would alway say well, the guy is umpiring 12 year old little league baseball….how good can he be and how much can he really enjoy this? When McDonalds fucks up your order..how surprised can you be?
Derek and I would like to thank you for your seeing eye single donations….a GROUND BALL WITH EEEEEEYES……Durham.
Heh.
Yes, I do enjoy these stories. I never listen to the Royals announcers, I had no idea they were this bad. This sounds super painful, eesh.
Just to be fair the Yankees’ scoreboard is way too big as well, I find it really distracting.
they NEVER show replays on the scoreboard at the K, it’s just the innings hits runs error thing, MPH the lineup and a picture…all game. And the crowd never knows when to clap, it’s all by the scoreboard. They’ll do the get loud, or noise or clap clap clap, and i SWEAR TO GOD, 3 seconds after they take it off the scoreboard, it’s quite again. it’s like a bunch of drunk ignorant clapping puppets.
My second favorite baseball fight would be Krazy Kyle versus Shelly Duncan. My favorite would be Shelly and Kyle beating up Youkalis.
These are the situations that Girardi drives me nuts, I don’t disagree with giving Jeter a day at DH but why would you chose a day with two regulars out already? Not that Cerveli at plate would drive those runs in but I’d rather have him up than Pena.
His hands might have been tied, though.
Gardner and Swisher needed days off, and Jeter might have needed one too. He compromised and put in the healthiest of the three in at DH.
why not? This way you can have your full A lineup several days in a row…and this lineup can still win
so i just turned it back off mute. They started making fun of the media guide in like the 4th, and what i hear is Jeter played in some number of straight games in 2004. Then the sideline announcer gets into it saying they’ll have real trivia not this other stuff. Then the play by play asks Frank White what he thinks and he rags on them. Then they start talking about how well Guillen hits in day games….over an hour of making fun of our media guide…their trivia question was who has more pages in the guide, arod or jeter, arod does with 16 by the way, and Frank White doesn’t care.
This is hilarious!
Frank White was the best fielding second baseman of his era (better than Joe Morgan) but, the same way he views Yankees trivia, nobody gives a whoopy damn do…and nobody ever has.
I’m not going to say what I’m thinking, but if it happens, I’ll let you all know.
arright nvm
I’d take my chances with that guy over Michael Kay.
Who but!
I think Kay gets too much shit. He’s no Vin Scully, and I personally dislike how many things he feels the need to have catch phrases for, but he’s talking/we’re listening for ~500 hours a year. There’s gonna be a lot of small mistakes/repetition/creepiness to nitpick.
I used to like him on the raido but I think he’s become a little over the top on TV.
You’re being very reasonable and I agree that fans give Kay no slack at all. If Vin Scully were in this market 162 games a year, I doubt he’d be as bulletproof as he is in La La Land. New York is a lot different than the Brooklyn of the 50s.
Here it is folks. 600 right here.
Here it is guys….
Say it with me everyone!
DUS-TIN MOSE-LEY *clapclapclapclapclap*
…anyone?
Look at that! That squirrel sure can waterski!
At least Moseley was pretty awesome.
Swisher’s hitting… so, nevermind my “That’s why you don’t pinch hit for Peña” argument from earlier.
Royals have thrown up some web gems this afternoon.
Nice play, Ankiel.
(A better centerfielder wouldn’t have needed to dive, but whatevs.)
Year of the grand slam continues?
Oops, reply fail.
There has to be a section of the game recap titled “Fuck the Royals defense…fuck em to hell”. Maybe not in those exact words.
Yeah, when Yuniesky Betancourt pulls a miracle double play out of his ass it’s not your day.
That.
Lets DFA Mitre
Wednesday at 11ish is gonna be the greatest time ever
Uh, what? Why?
because it will be ~an hour away from my 19th birthday, that’s why.
(is there ANYTHING significant about being 19? I feel like it’s a pretty boring age – 16 has driving, 17 has driving friends, 18 has voting and adulthood and stuff, 20 is 20, 21 has drinking, but 19…there’s nothing)
Joakim Soria has the best nickname in baseball.
Rafael Soriano does. MFIKY.
(Motherfucker I kill you)
Haha, that’s awesome.
I’ve also always been quite partial to El Comedulce
Soria’s pants are really tight. #girlobservations
This isn’t fair. Triple A vs Soria
1-2-3
Pena could have done that.
uh oh
Whaaaaaaaaa Granderson.
BB>600
This is getting interesting…
Nice job, Curtis.
Thats a victory in it’s self to bring the tying run to the plate.
Getting interesting… walk off slam incoming?!
Plz to be going back-to-back, Tex and Alex? (not expecting it)
Tex isn’t clutch man.
Tex either has to walk or blast a three-run shot to set it up for Alex.
the ball has been flying off tex’s bat, any hit is capable of being a HR today
C’mon, Tex and Alex. Look, there’s nuns in the crowd, GOD WANTS THIS TO HAPPEN.
BAAAAH at least it was a good game
Damn.
Son of a bitch.
SCREW YOU, YUNIESKI!
Of course.
Sometimes I think these umps are so wrapped up in proving that the moment doesn’t affect their call, that it affects them the other way.
WOW!!!!!
Wow… safe… fucking great. ROBOTS PLEASE
SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE
Fuck you umps.
Instant fucking replay NOW
Wow, Tex was definitely safe. Tough break.
He was safe, dammit.
Heh, look at Alex’s face, he wanted that shit BAD.
UGGGHH can we please just fucking get rid of umpires? Please? It is physically impossible for them to do anything but hurt the game
wow, I think A-Rod would have hit #600 in walk-off fashion. Damn you umps.
Fire the umps. Kill the umps. Get rid of the umps. I don’t care. Bring on the robots.
BUT TEH HUMAN ELEMENT!!!!!
FU
Sorry Tommie – Not FU to you – to Selig and the lack of replay and the RIDICULOUS umping situation.
No, I knew what you were saying.
Whenever someone argues that bad umpires are the equivalent to players messing up I want to punch them a bit. Not even close.
Robot Umps NOW, please
YES – EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vring them on now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would it really be so hard to have a replay guy upstairs and give each manager two challenges per game?
Think of the drama that Fairchild just robbed us all of
Kill the f*&king umps. Dump Selig. Let’s get this game right.
How much longer are we gonna be at the mercy of these fucking incompetent umps?? Instant fucking replay fuckin now!!!
It doesn’t even matter how competent they might be. They aren’t perfect. It’s more than possible for baseball to employ a system of perfect officiation. That they haven’t yet is an abomination.
Nitpick: It’s impossible for baseball to have a perfect system of officiating, but it is an abomination for them to not even try to have a perfect system of officiating.
I don’t expect every call to be 100% perfect, but I do expect the league to try their damndest to get as close to 100% as humanly (and technologically) possible.
Keep dreaming on the Ridiculous Upside. We’re not even close to some kind of meaningful change. It ain’t happening until Selig is gone. He is KILLING THE GAME for me and probably others as well.
Forget it. Selig has to go and nothing will cahnge until he is gone.
Alex was robbed of a chance to hit 600. Just more reason for replay in this game.
And, your Land Rover Drive of the Game: the drive away from the stadium by the umps to make sure they don’t get killed by an angry mob.
ietcvm
I am so tired of this topic . . . BUT . . . Bring on replay on every play. Kill the umps. Kill the umps. Kill the umps.
While I’m ranting an raving – Dump Chan Ho Park.. I hated this deal from day one and I still want him GONE. I got nailed by a lot of commenters the first time I said it, but I stand by the opinion. Dumpe CHoP and bring up ANYONE!
Keep Mitre though.
He’s expendable too but we need him right now until Andy is back.
It’s ironic but Moseley shutting out the Royals says less about him than how truly awful Mitre was today.
The last two years of umpiring have been an abortion. I’m not just grousing about calls that go against the Yankees.
I think the worst call I ever saw was one that helped the Yankees in the playoffs last year against the MN Twins. A ball three feet inside the foul line is called foul. And then this year, the perfect game that wasn’t.
I have always been a traditionalist. BUT NOT ANYMORE. I WANT REVOLUTION AND A COUP D’ETAT.
I am not bitching about today’s bad call. IT’S ALL THE F&^KINIG BAD CALLS.
FIRE SELIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!