Jul
01

Kevin Goldstein’s Top 11 Prospects

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Baseball Prospectus’ Kevin Goldstein posted his list of the top 11 prospects still in the minors today (sub. req’d), with Jesus Montero coming in at number eight. “Montero has just started to hit this year, batting .287/.330/.511 in June,” says KG, “but for a 20-year-old in Triple-A, he remains one of the more impressive offensive prospects in the game, with barrel control and raw power well beyond his years. Few scouts I’ve talked to have lowered their scouting scores in any way.” He also adds the standard “Montero continues to improve behind the plate, but it’s unlikely he’ll be good enough to play there every day in the big leagues” clause to his breakdown.

Domonic Brown of the Phillies, Mike Trout of the Angels, and Julio Teheran of the Braves make up the top three. Also, as a reminder, the July 2nd international signing period begins tomorrow, so there’s going to be a whole lot of new blood infused into the system soon. I’ll be sure to post the signing info as it comes in, but the best place to get up to the minute news is the Twitter feed of Baseball America’s Ben Badler.

Categories : Asides, Minors
  • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    He also adds the standard “Montero continues to improve behind the plate, but it’s unlikely he’ll be good enough to play there every day in the big leagues” clause to his breakdown.

    I’m no scout and obviously I’m not watching the kid play regularly, so I’m certainly not passing judgment on his defensive skills here… But it seems, just from reading the scouting reports for the last couple of seasons, like people just rely on that “standard,” as Mike put it, statement about Montero’s defense, seemingly without really thinking about it or reassessing their position. Like, ever. I mean, if the kid’s been improving his defensive play for the last couple of seasons… Maybe there’s an improving chance he’ll be a passable backstop in the big leagues? I just wonder if these guys just rely on the same old line and established reputation of the player rather than actually, like, do their jobs and give a current, updated assessment of a player’s skills, because it’s much safer for them to toe the company line and not disagree with the narrative.

    • Tom Zig

      The narrative is always right, even when it’s not.

      • Pete

        it was always right, you just read it wrong

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I play by my own rules, nobody else’s, not even my own.

    • JohnnyC

      It also depends on what your standard for defensive skill behind the plate is. Is it Gold Glove level or is it simply ML replacement level? I know it’s become a cliche but Jorge Posada is not anyone’s idea of a Johnny Bench (or even Jim Sundberg) clone but he’s at least a borderline HOF candidate. And, to my knowledge, no one has commented on whether Montero handles pitchers well or calls a good game. For all we know, he might be quite talented in that respect.

    • Stryker

      i admit: seeing statements like “while he has been working to improve his defense, the question still remains as to whether or not he could be a viable option as a major league catcher” as the standard lines we’ve read about him the last few years would make some difference to us as fans. it would, at least, recognize that there’s actually a plan to work on being a passable defensive catcher as part of his development plan rather (which we know to be the case) than ignore that possibility completely.

      while i agree with you on the whole, don’t you think it’s also possible that he’s just not that great defensively? obviously the yanks are going to stick with him as a catcher until he really just won’t be able to stay behind the plate. as fans, wouldn’t shrugging off the statements about montero’s defensive ability as bias from people who have scouted him and are far more familiar with him than we are further the notions of yankees fans being overly defensive of their players, prospects, and team in general?

      • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        “while i agree with you on the whole, don’t you think it’s also possible that he’s just not that great defensively?”

        Yeah of course, I never said anything to the contrary. I was just noting that we get just about the same exact statement from every prospect-watcher and it seems strange for that assessment to not have changed, at all, in like 2 years. How long can you hear ‘he’s improving’ before you maybe change your expectation of where he’ll wind up a bit? I just suspect that the total lack of change, and the just about universal uniformity of opinion, might be a sign that people just don’t like to say anything that doesn’t align them with what all of their peers are saying.

        “as fans, wouldn’t shrugging off the statements about montero’s defensive ability as bias from people who have scouted him and are far more familiar with him than we are further the notions of yankees fans being overly defensive of their players, prospects, and team in general?”

        I did nothing of the sort, though. I’m not shrugging anything off, nor did I ever even imply that there’s some sort of bias in play here. I don’t really know where you got any of that from.

        • Stryker

          apologies if my thoughts were somewhat confusing – your last quote was something i added in myself stemming from the opinions i’ve read on RAB and other yankees blogs. never meant to imply anything or put words in your mouth. just trying to take the discussion a step further.

          • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Oh no worries, I hear you. Thanks for the clarification.

    • DJH

      I’ve got MILB.tv so I have seen Montero a lot and from my eyes I can tell you he’s far from great on defense but can he play it enough to catch in the big leagues….yes there’s not a doubt in my mind.

      I predict he will get called up in like June next year and Posada/Cervi/Montero will do like a super DH/C split but by 2012 he will be our everyday catcher.

      • http://soxandpinstripes.net Angelo

        Don’t forget about Romine for 2012.

        • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

          Gary Sanchez passes them all by 2013.

          • ChrisS

            2011 … It’s been way too long since a bonafide superstar teenager (A-Rod? Griffey Jr.?) took the big leagues by storm.

  • Jake H

    Posada isn’t a great defensive catcher. Montere’s bat should carry him.

  • Accent Shallow

    “but for a 20-year-old in Triple-A, he remains one of the more impressive offensive prospects in the game, with barrel control and raw power well beyond his years. Few scouts I’ve talked to have lowered their scouting scores in any way.”

    Now this is what I wanted to hear. Good stuff.

  • Jose the Satirist

    I’m pumped for the start of IFA signings. Javier Pimentel come on down.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Is that Stolmy’s little brother?

  • Roger

    Does anyone have the rest of the list? I remember hearing the Baseball America guys where very high on Aroyds Vizcaino. They had him as one of the top pitching prospects in the minors. I was wondering if this was still the case since he’s had a great year.